| === webpigeon is now known as Guest11177 | ||
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| czajkowski | aloha | 00:35 |
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| dutchie | ooh, it boots on the older kernel | 00:36 |
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:00 |
| daubers | Morning | 08:01 |
| Craig_Dem | Good Morning | 08:02 |
| Craig_Dem | And for the sixth day in a row, no school! | 08:02 |
| MooDoo | the one school in our village that's stayed open, the head has now got to write a letter to parents to explain why he's stayed open due to 3 parents complaining lol | 08:04 |
| Craig_Dem | Ouch | 08:04 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:10 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, morning | 08:17 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: ello hows things | 08:22 |
| * daubers ponders tea | 08:26 | |
| czajkowski | tea never needs to be pondered only consumed | 08:31 |
| daubers | czajkowski: How's tricks? | 08:35 |
| czajkowski | good thanks at a conference | 08:35 |
| daubers | shiny | 08:35 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, yeah i'm fine.....:) hows the conference going? | 08:35 |
| czajkowski | aye rather busy too | 08:36 |
| czajkowski | more than 50 talks over the next few days | 08:36 |
| czajkowski | and over 200 people | 08:36 |
| MooDoo | wow lots of talk there | 08:36 |
| * daubers ponders getting some IAMs | 08:36 | |
| MooDoo | daubers, IAMs as in the pet food stuff? | 08:39 |
| daubers | MooDoo: Individual Applience Moniter whatsits | 08:40 |
| MooDoo | daubers, i knew that ;) well done you passed my test :D | 08:40 |
| daubers | MooDoo: :p | 08:41 |
| daubers | I just want to see when the electric heaters pop on and off individually. Quite hard to do that from a single data display | 08:42 |
| czajkowski | daubers: they kinda work | 08:42 |
| daubers | kinda? | 08:42 |
| czajkowski | but depends on the area you need to use them and how often | 08:43 |
| czajkowski | n | 08:45 |
| czajkowski | nm got them confused with tens | 08:45 |
| daubers | czajkowski: Ahhhh :) Was very confused then..... | 08:47 |
| daubers | Anyone know when the new menu thing is landing in Natty? | 08:48 |
| MooDoo | daubers, new menu thing? | 08:48 |
| MooDoo | you mean unity? | 08:48 |
| daubers | MooDoo: The ubuntu menu for unity, the bit that shows all the appications properly rather than opening a nautilus window :) | 08:49 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: reddit.com/r/iama ? :) | 08:50 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer 's car is now in a ditch :-( | 08:54 | |
| AlanBell | yikes | 08:54 |
| czajkowski | TheOpenSourcerer: eep everyone ok? | 08:54 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: ...... explain? | 08:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yes - it was a slow motion skid | 08:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Bloody Ocado van stopped halfway down a hill with no traffic or houses on it. road was like oiled glass. | 08:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I did well to miss it frankly. | 08:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Then he drove off! | 08:55 |
| czajkowski | :s | 08:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Stroppy mail to Ocado will be winging it's way shortly. | 08:56 |
| daubers | TheOpenSourcerer: Get the reg? | 08:56 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Nope, but know the time/location. | 08:56 |
| AlanBell | need hauling out? | 08:59 |
| AlanBell | or is it broken as well as in a ditch? | 09:00 |
| czajkowski | TheOpenSourcerer: glad everyone is ok, much damage ? | 09:01 |
| MartijnVdS | ,adhd | 09:01 |
| MartijnVdS | oops, wrong channel :) | 09:01 |
| wintellect | Mornin all | 09:10 |
| MooDoo | wintellect, morn | 09:15 |
| wintellect | hello MooDoo | 09:17 |
| Flashtek | o/ | 09:17 |
| MartijnVdS | "moo doo" = cow feces? | 09:17 |
| daubers | MartijnVdS: Play nice | 09:18 |
| * MartijnVdS will :) | 09:18 | |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS, thanks for that :D | 09:18 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: well, "moo juice" is milk.. so I thought.. | 09:18 |
| * MartijnVdS will stop thinking, sorry :) | 09:18 | |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS, silly boy : D lol | 09:18 |
| Flashtek | lol | 09:18 |
| Flashtek | there is logic there.. | 09:19 |
| MooDoo | if you really must know, VooDoo was already registered and someone, i can't remember who, went moooooooooooooooooooooo so there you go the change | 09:19 |
| Flashtek | after all, what is doggie doo ? | 09:19 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: Ah, cow zombies | 09:20 |
| MooDoo | yes yes, it wasn't funny the first time, time give it a rest :p | 09:20 |
| Flashtek | Thalmatergic Bovines | 09:20 |
| screen-x | morning :) | 09:21 |
| MooDoo | screen-x, morning | 09:21 |
| daubers | Morning screen-x | 09:21 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 09:22 |
| screen-x | so how are we all, this fine December Monday? | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | screen-x, it's cold on them there hills | 09:23 |
| czajkowski | fantastic keynote by simon phipps | 09:33 |
| screen-x | which event czajkowski? | 09:33 |
| czajkowski | postgres | 09:37 |
| MartijnVdS | there's a postgres event? | 09:37 |
| czajkowski | follow #pgdayeu on twitter to see what folks are saying | 09:37 |
| screen-x | thanks | 09:37 |
| czajkowski | 2010.pgday.eu | 09:37 |
| Flashtek | jack frost has been to visit Plymouth ppl.. | 09:48 |
| popey | czajkowski: give the enterprisedb people a poke in the eye for me | 09:49 |
| popey | czajkowski: they cluelessly send out spam with "Dear <name>" in, or a name, but not my name in. | 09:50 |
| MooDoo | popey, if we had to poke all the companies in the world that are lazy and don't check their emails, we would, and me especially, have sore fingers :D | 09:50 |
| popey | sure, but she's standing near them | 09:52 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, double poke time then | 09:53 |
| Flashtek | heya popey | 09:55 |
| popey | lo | 09:56 |
| Flashtek | how is ? | 09:57 |
| MooDoo | Flashtek, the weather? | 09:58 |
| MooDoo | ;) | 09:58 |
| Flashtek | yeah | 09:58 |
| Flashtek | how is the weather | 09:58 |
| Flashtek | like I can't find that out.. | 09:59 |
| popey | http://popey.com/webcam/ snow melting | 09:59 |
| MooDoo | Flashtek, well how is? doesn't really make sense does it :p | 09:59 |
| Flashtek | how is popey ? | 09:59 |
| kazade | morning all | 10:00 |
| MooDoo | kazade, good morning | 10:00 |
| Flashtek | wheeee.... http://portal.wattsure.com/all/gendash/136 | 10:01 |
| kevinw | can anyone shed light on the error: EXPIRED: Instance expired after not being reported for 600000 - im trying to setup a cloud and every instances terminates with this error | 10:02 |
| AlanBell | amazon cloud? | 10:03 |
| === webpigeon is now known as Guest33492 | ||
| kevinw | ubuntu | 10:05 |
| === Guest33492 is now known as webpigeon_web | ||
| nperry | Morning o/ | 10:06 |
| webpigeon_web | morning | 10:06 |
| kevinw | i have installed it on two machines using the 10.04 cd, one node is the cloud controller etc, and the other is a node controller, all running public IP's | 10:08 |
| czajkowski | kevinw: #ubuntu-cloud might be more helpful | 10:18 |
| kevinw | ive tried in there but not had any responces | 10:18 |
| kevinw | i thought id give here a try on the off chance | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | kevinw: be patient it' | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | it' | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | it's irc | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | and rather early | 10:19 |
| * jpds considers 6am to be early. | 10:19 | |
| kevinw | fair comment | 10:19 |
| MooDoo | jpds, that's my normal get up time..... | 10:19 |
| jpds | MooDoo: Likewise. | 10:19 |
| MooDoo | jpds, mines not by choice with a 2 year old :D | 10:20 |
| czajkowski | popey: enterprise db person is an organiser shall poke them after the party tonight | 10:20 |
| Flashtek | popey: ever seen a cat jump while looking down ? | 10:21 |
| MooDoo | Flashtek, what a bizarre question for monday, or maybe i've not had enough coffee yet :D | 10:21 |
| popey | Flashtek: que? | 10:23 |
| webpigeon_web | does | 10:23 |
| danfish | morning all | 10:23 |
| webpigeon_web | does the cat command count? | 10:23 |
| webpigeon_web | hey danfish? | 10:23 |
| webpigeon_web | damn phone irc client. | 10:24 |
| * MooDoo wants to go watch a cat jump while looking down to see what happens | 10:24 | |
| MooDoo | danfish, morning | 10:30 |
| webpigeon_web | moodoo I have 8 of them and i can't remember any of the doing it | 10:31 |
| MooDoo | lol | 10:34 |
| webpigeon_web | although can't say i was paying that much attention: p | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | dear weather app work and stop confusing me | 10:42 |
| popey | czajkowski: iphone weather app? | 10:42 |
| danfish | czajkowski: just look out of the window :) | 10:42 |
| czajkowski | popey: nope laptop, lucid. it's ticked to show weather but not actually doing so | 10:43 |
| jpds | czajkowski: Have you set a 'home' city? | 10:44 |
| czajkowski | yup | 10:45 |
| hoover | hi folks | 10:46 |
| czajkowski | http://twitpic.com/3dfn0k | 10:47 |
| jpds | czajkowski: So if you click on it, and go to "Locations:", there's a city with a little house? | 10:49 |
| kaushal | hi | 10:50 |
| kaushal | is there a way to install IE on Ubuntu 10.10 ? | 10:51 |
| kaushal | I need IE due to browser restrictions | 10:51 |
| czajkowski | yup | 10:51 |
| kaushal | I have HP servers where in the IPMI supports only IE | 10:51 |
| czajkowski | jpds: yup | 10:52 |
| jpds | czajkowski: Hmm. | 10:52 |
| popey | kaushal: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page | 10:52 |
| czajkowski | jpds: shall reboot a few times] | 10:52 |
| czajkowski | usually knocks some sense into it | 10:52 |
| czajkowski | :s | 10:52 |
| popey | o_O | 10:52 |
| czajkowski | wont be running lucid for much longer on this one | 10:52 |
| czajkowski | popey: see phips reply to you | 10:53 |
| jpds | czajkowski: Three times. | 10:54 |
| czajkowski | twice seems to do it, same way lately when i'm connected to wifi it actually displays me not connected when i am | 10:54 |
| czajkowski | :s | 10:54 |
| popey | czajkowski: i have | 10:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Love it - Andrew Marr apparently repeated Jim Naughtie's faux pas in Start The Week just an hour or so later... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11925556 | 10:57 |
| popey | he did | 10:57 |
| * popey has the mp3 :) | 10:57 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lol | 10:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's hear: http://tindeck.com/listen/qlev | 10:58 |
| AlanBell | oh dear | 10:59 |
| kaushal | popey: Thanks | 11:01 |
| kaushal | czajkowski: Thanks | 11:01 |
| czajkowski | kaushal: oh i wasnt saying yes to you, sorry | 11:06 |
| czajkowski | jpds: yup 2 reboots fixes it | 11:06 |
| selinuxium | Morning all! o/ | 11:18 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: seeing you here more often these days | 11:19 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, Trying to get my attendance back up. :) | 11:19 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer is glad selinuxium wasn't around when I made the Essex joke ;-) | 11:19 | |
| selinuxium | Sadly, can't make the Xmas party... :( | 11:19 |
| selinuxium | TheOpenSourcerer, I probably have much worse ones under my belt.. :) | 11:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lol | 11:20 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: tis ok, neither can i | 11:20 |
| czajkowski | we shall have new year event drinks! | 11:20 |
| selinuxium | Hell Yeah! | 11:20 |
| czajkowski | danfish: is gonna organise a rugby /pub session | 11:21 |
| czajkowski | so we go to a pub watch rugby and catch up | 11:21 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, that sounds awesome | 11:21 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: doesn't it :D | 11:21 |
| czajkowski | London Irish have a ton of games on in the new year | 11:22 |
| czajkowski | we just need to find a weekend, pick a pub and meet | 11:22 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, well seeing as i'm a harlequins fan i'll have to make a visit to the stoop :D | 11:22 |
| danfish | czajkowski: oh yeah - I remember now. I'll look into that this week - d'ya think before or after Chrimbo? | 11:22 |
| czajkowski | after so i can join :D | 11:22 |
| danfish | when are England playing Ireland? | 11:23 |
| czajkowski | not sure i want to be around folks during that game, my language will not be CoC friendly | 11:23 |
| MooDoo | you think i want to be in the vacinity of czajkowski when england play ireland? if england loose i owe her a pint | 11:23 |
| czajkowski | march 19th | 11:23 |
| danfish | (no access to web browser at the mo) | 11:24 |
| czajkowski | it's being played in ireland so going to a pub in uk could be fun | 11:24 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, i think we need to organize an ubuntu-uk/rugby fans meet up then :) | 11:24 |
| danfish | it would be awesome :) | 11:24 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: that's what we're doing | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | ok so march 19th | 11:25 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, and i could never believe anything but roses could come out of your mouth ;) | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | load of notice to find a pub suitable and enough notice | 11:25 |
| danfish | may I suggest somewhere near Clapham for ease of train access? | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: ahh bless tis clear we've never met | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | danfish: sounds good | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | whooo funky event :D | 11:26 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, clearly, and i'm not sure i'm brave enough to come down, even though i probably tower above you ;) | 11:26 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: bah shurup and come join the fun | 11:26 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, i'm there :D | 11:26 |
| czajkowski | hmm so anyone know any decent pubs in clapham ? | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | morning all | 11:29 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: ello my dear | 11:30 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: your being all pleasant did you miss me ;) | 11:30 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: hardly, but we're organising a meet up regarding beer/rugby and ubuntu so in good form | 11:31 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: nice | 11:31 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, it's going to be nice to see czajkowski when england beat her beloved ireland :p | 11:33 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, either that or buy her a pint when england get stuffed :D | 11:35 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, I think MooDoo is in for a RUDE awakening... :) | 11:35 |
| MooDoo | selinuxium, i'm a big boy i can take care of my self, besides i'll just bring a box and gum shield | 11:35 |
| danfish | czajkowski: there's loads to chose from - depends on how rowdy you like em :) | 11:35 |
| MooDoo | danfish, nice and chilled i reckon | 11:36 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: in the last 7 games ye've won once that's going back to march 04 | 11:36 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, stats schmats....:p | 11:36 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you need to buy her extra sticky toffee if Ireland win so it gum czajkowski gob shut, you'll never hear the end of it else | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | lol | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | danfish: makes no difference to me, once it has beer and we can get in and even book off an area in advance would be even better | 11:38 |
| danfish | czajkowski: I'll bet you £10 on England to win (if you pay up front I'll make it £5 :P) | 11:38 |
| czajkowski | lol | 11:38 |
| czajkowski | look as long as we have a good day with beers and banter it'll be fun | 11:38 |
| danfish | agreed | 11:38 |
| danfish | I'll check a few venues this week and report back | 11:39 |
| czajkowski | sweet | 11:40 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: you in ? | 11:40 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, lol i'll remember that | 11:40 |
| MooDoo | and it's all gone quiet. | 12:08 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: everyone's having lunch :) | 12:13 |
| Flashtek | i'm not | 12:13 |
| danfish | or is thinking about lunch | 12:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Flashtek: you just don't know it yet | 12:13 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: everyone is scared that czajkowski might be nice to them too | 12:14 |
| Flashtek | oh, I'm thinking about it.. | 12:14 |
| Flashtek | just don't think about a pink elephant | 12:14 |
| MartijnVdS | Flashtek: just had some, on toast | 12:15 |
| Flashtek | elephant ? | 12:18 |
| MartijnVdS | pink elephant | 12:19 |
| Flashtek | how do you have it ? | 12:19 |
| Flashtek | rare ? | 12:19 |
| MartijnVdS | as a pate | 12:19 |
| Flashtek | ah, pink elephant pate.. nice.. | 12:19 |
| MartijnVdS | but yes, it's very rare :) | 12:19 |
| Flashtek | lol | 12:20 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, Sorry, in on what? :) | 12:20 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, Allways up for beer and rugby! :) | 12:20 |
| MooDoo | selinuxium, czajkowski is planning a beer sesh england/ireland rugby | 12:29 |
| MooDoo | selinuxium, march 19th | 12:29 |
| czajkowski | :) | 12:41 |
| daubers | *sigh* | 12:44 |
| daubers | I wish they'd drop this "superfast means fibre" attitude | 12:44 |
| popey | http://www.serversplus.com/mailshots/microservercashback.html | 12:47 |
| yasahiro | Hello. | 12:47 |
| popey | mini server under 100 quid | 12:47 |
| yasahiro | After 100 back, yeah. | 12:48 |
| Nafallo | popey: 1U? | 12:48 |
| MooDoo | Nafallo, look at the link, looks like a mini box | 12:50 |
| m4r35n357 | Anyone using rapidsvn on maverick? I don't get a menu bar so it's pretty useless here! | 12:57 |
| Flashtek | hmm.... | 13:07 |
| Flashtek | knetworkmanager keeps dieing when I tell it to fire up my 3G link.. | 13:07 |
| * Flashtek installs rapidsvn to test for m4r35n357 | 13:08 | |
| m4r35n357 | hi Flashtek, thx! | 13:09 |
| Flashtek | I has menus | 13:09 |
| m4r35n357 | ok then I've got a problem ;) | 13:09 |
| Flashtek | config file probably.. | 13:09 |
| m4r35n357 | yeah I'll investigate . . . thanks for verifiying that it should work! | 13:10 |
| Flashtek | np | 13:10 |
| m4r35n357 | oh crap, moved rapidsvn config file out of the way, and still no menu bar . . . same problem after purge & reinstall :( | 13:16 |
| m4r35n357 | must be some obscure clash . . . | 13:17 |
| m4r35n357 | oh well, have to use something else I suppose | 13:18 |
| * Flashtek is having his cavity filled by two men with big bits.. | 13:18 | |
| m4r35n357 | most of the svn clients look like crap though | 13:18 |
| === dogmatic69_ is now known as dogmatic69 | ||
| selinuxium | MooDoo, czajkowski Most definitely up for that... Were abouts? | 13:29 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: clapham somewhere | 13:30 |
| selinuxium | s/Were/Where | 13:30 |
| czajkowski | good train access there | 13:30 |
| selinuxium | coolio! | 13:30 |
| czajkowski | march 19th | 13:30 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, you based here now then? | 13:30 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: yes... for the last month | 13:30 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, selinuxium i'll be travelling down from notts | 13:43 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, OK cool, you near Clapham then? | 13:44 |
| dutchie | daubers: which disk should i buy? need a tb for backups/media storage, 3.5" sata | 13:45 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: aldershot | 13:47 |
| selinuxium | O_o | 13:48 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, I have done gigs there! | 13:49 |
| selinuxium | I see why we are looking at Clapham then! | 13:49 |
| daubers | dutchie: Internal/External? | 13:50 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: handy for people to come there | 13:50 |
| czajkowski | good train service | 13:50 |
| MooDoo | :) | 13:50 |
| dutchie | daubers: to go in an external enclosure | 13:51 |
| Flashtek | hmm.. | 14:00 |
| Flashtek | anyone know where I can get an external display case to hold a 18.5" tft outside ? | 14:00 |
| MartijnVdS | Flashtek: outside? as in outdoors? | 14:01 |
| MartijnVdS | or outside as in "its outside dimensions" | 14:01 |
| daubers | dutchie: Ah ok :) At the moment I'd use either Seagate or Hitachi. | 14:01 |
| * MartijnVdS has several Samsungs | 14:01 | |
| MartijnVdS | Every Seagate disk I've owned has died within a year | 14:02 |
| daubers | MartijnVdS: We don't tend to use samsung as they don't play nice with RAID controllers | 14:02 |
| dutchie | what source would you recommend? | 14:02 |
| daubers | dutchie: Ah, we get ours from distribution :) Wherever cheapest, if you can, get an ES or Enterprise grade drive. The samsung ES drives are quite nice | 14:03 |
| Flashtek | outdoors | 14:03 |
| daubers | s/samsung/seagate | 14:04 |
| daubers | dutchie: The bog standard basic consumer ones are rubbish | 14:04 |
| ali1234 | is there really any difference? | 14:04 |
| MartijnVdS | yes there is | 14:04 |
| dutchie | there's a samsung spinpoint f3 on dabs for £42 | 14:05 |
| ali1234 | i always figured "enterprise grade" was just shorthand for 500% markup | 14:05 |
| daubers | ali1234: Definatley | 14:05 |
| daubers | ali1234: ES drives are rated for quite harsh use 24/7, whereas consumer ones are rated for a lot less | 14:05 |
| daubers | dutchie: What budget you got? | 14:05 |
| ali1234 | but the rating means nothing | 14:05 |
| daubers | ali1234: In what way? | 14:06 |
| dutchie | daubers: student budget :) rather not go over £60/70 | 14:06 |
| daubers | ali1234: I've tested 14 drive raid 6's with consumer grade drives and enterprise grade drives, enterprise grade tend to last longer and ahve better performance | 14:07 |
| ali1234 | daubers: well imagine if i buy a job lot of cookware, say, and then stick a label on it that says "rated for up to 400 degrees" | 14:07 |
| ali1234 | then resell it with a 500% markup | 14:07 |
| daubers | ali1234: Also, we get about 1 in 128 DOA in enterprise grade and 1 in 32 for consumer | 14:07 |
| ali1234 | i am not being dishonest, yet i am still ripping people off :) | 14:07 |
| ali1234 | the only drives i have ever seen break are maxtor | 14:08 |
| ali1234 | and those ran in a moving vehicle for a year | 14:09 |
| ali1234 | it's kind of the flipside of the insurance scam, where all the suppliers on the chain massively over-quote because they know insurance will pay | 14:11 |
| ali1234 | so you end up with "so and so went to prison for causing £100000 worth of damage" and it turns out they broke 1 window or something | 14:12 |
| daubers | dutchie: Hmmm... at that price you'll get a consumer grade one only. Need to spend ~£90 for enterprise grade. In your case I'd go with http://www.dabs.com/products/western-digital-1tb-caviar-black-3-5--sata6gb-s-7200rpm-64mb-6LXV.html?refs=52450000-12-4294951586-42730000-376770000 or possibly http://www.dabs.com/products/seagate-1tb-barracuda-sata-300-32mb-7200rpm-6L8D.html?refs=52450000-12-4294951586-42730000-376770000 that | 14:12 |
| daubers | though the seagate AS drives are pretty pooey these days | 14:12 |
| dutchie | daubers: thanks | 14:13 |
| daubers | dutchie: The spinpoint one would be a safe-ish wildcard (I've not had any of those in to play with) | 14:13 |
| daubers | dutchie: Though since you're putting it in a usb caddy, as long as you don't throw the caddy around, the caddy electronics will probably go before the drive | 14:14 |
| dutchie | i'm not likely to throw it around, i can make no guarantees of my mother though :( | 14:15 |
| dutchie | i'm sure her "tidying up" has accounted for most of my disk failures | 14:15 |
| daubers | heh :) Bolt it to something and the spinpoint will probably do you. Though if you have some spare capacity somewhere else, always keep a second backup of anything exceptionally critical | 14:16 |
| dutchie | righty-ho | 14:16 |
| daubers | dutchie: (i.e. U1 or dropbox for uber critical stuffs second backup) | 14:18 |
| dutchie | do that already :) | 14:18 |
| daubers | heh :) | 14:18 |
| daubers | Bah, stupid textviews | 14:27 |
| daubers | all I want to do is get _all_ of the text. | 14:27 |
| daubers | Ah ha! | 14:30 |
| daubers | I win! | 14:30 |
| gord | ack, i let my heating turn off! :( | 15:02 |
| * popey defrosts gord | 15:06 | |
| selinuxium | What is the new URL for the joggler stuff? | 15:13 |
| mrxtian | Been using rapidsvn, then wanted to use svn now rapidsvn will not start (floatingpoint exception) so un-installed svn, Raid works again Where would I report this bug ? | 15:14 |
| popey | selinuxium: http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/ubuntu/ | 15:17 |
| * bigcalm waves | 15:26 | |
| * popey tickles | 15:28 | |
| bigcalm | Gah! | 15:28 |
| bigcalm | popey: have you been taking hints from my GF? | 15:28 |
| bigcalm | She is a mean tickler | 15:29 |
| popey | not sure I want to know that :) | 15:29 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 15:29 |
| bigcalm | Just if I stretch, she tries to tickle me. Quite off putting | 15:29 |
| czajkowski | seems more like a challenge to me | 15:32 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 15:32 |
| selinuxium | popey, Cheers fella... | 15:33 |
| popey | np | 15:35 |
| * popey notes this was in the show notes for the podcast :) | 15:35 | |
| popey | (thats where I got it from) | 15:35 |
| cps | afternoon :) | 15:42 |
| kaushal | Hi | 15:48 |
| kaushal | I am unable to install IE on Ubuntu 10.10 | 15:49 |
| kaushal | is it a better option to go for Virtualbox OSE ? | 15:49 |
| kaushal | and then try IE inside Guest OS | 15:49 |
| screen-x | kaushal: I'd use virtualbox for that. | 15:50 |
| kaushal | yes | 15:50 |
| kaushal | got it and understood | 15:50 |
| kaushal | screen-x: thats ideal | 15:50 |
| kaushal | OSE edition is good ? | 15:51 |
| kaushal | anyways virtual OSE is better option | 15:51 |
| kaushal | Thanks again | 15:51 |
| screen-x | OSE is missing some usb goodies iirc, but is fine for testing internet explorer. | 15:53 |
| daubers | Anyone know the python tarfile module inside out? | 15:59 |
| daubers | I'm compressing a given file, but it's keeping the full path, I just want it to compress the file. | 15:59 |
| ali1234 | tar doesn't compress | 16:00 |
| daubers | no, but tarfile lets you use gz compression | 16:01 |
| ali1234 | specify the arcname parameter | 16:02 |
| ali1234 | "If given, arcname specifies an alternative name for the file in the archive." | 16:02 |
| daubers | bah, was hoping for an easier fix that that, never mind. Ta :) | 16:06 |
| bigcalm | So the new Nexus S is out, but the video demonstraiting it shows nothing that my Nexus One doesn't do. I think the video was to show off some new shoes they had bought | 16:17 |
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| czajkowski | tonight is a free beer by enterprise DB whooo | 16:23 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski, yay o/ | 16:23 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: why you excited that means hung over czajkowski tomorrow to deal with ;) | 16:29 |
| nperry | Android 2.3 has some new additions to it | 16:29 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, i'm off tues and wed so won't have to deal with anything ;) | 16:30 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Coward ;) | 16:30 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, nah i'm not scared of czajkowski | 16:30 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, there is currently over 200 miles between us lol | 16:31 |
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| davmor2 | MooDoo: hahaha | 16:31 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, shhh i'm only little so i'll sneak in to that do she's planning in march, she'll not know i'm there | 16:32 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Yeah she will czajkowski has gitdar, it's like radar but ping on people who annoy her ;) | 16:33 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, 6'6 is little right? | 16:33 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Umm yeah! that's tiny right? | 16:34 |
| czajkowski | oi ye two behave | 16:35 |
| bigcalm | I've agreed to provide off site backup for my parents. Can anybody suggest a good NAS? I would just use a USB HD, but they don't always reconnect correctly after a power outage | 16:35 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, did you hear a noise? | 16:35 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: yes but then the plasterer stop use his mixer so it was okay | 16:36 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, phew, thought it was czajkowski bleating ;) | 16:37 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you know you're gonna get whaled at some point right :D | 16:38 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, shhhh but i'm a sucker for punishment and looking forward to it :D | 16:42 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you know those kinda thoughts are meant to stay in your head and not be broadcast on logged channels right ;) | 16:44 |
| MooDoo | davmor2, er er er | 16:44 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Why It Matters - http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/12/06/why-it-matters/ | 17:03 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Phil Bull] GNOME Developer Demos; Terminology; HIG 3.0 in Mallard; Cheesy sounds? - http://philbull.livejournal.com/57007.html | 17:03 |
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| MartijnVdS | hmm | 18:21 |
| MartijnVdS | do I want a Nexus S :) | 18:22 |
| davmor2 | is it me or did everyone fall of the face of ubuntu-uk for the last hour or so? | 18:22 |
| Azelphur | davmor2: rush hour? | 18:23 |
| * AlanBell creeps up behind davmor2 and shouts BOO | 18:23 | |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: heard you sneaking new vinyl flooring in new office, you'll have to try harder :D | 18:24 |
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| === dengar is now known as Guest35610 | ||
| === dengar_ is now known as Guest94593 | ||
| dutchie | /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libblas.so.3gf is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. | 19:37 |
| dutchie | that doesn't look good :( | 19:37 |
| shauno | what's .3gf? | 19:37 |
| shauno | curious, as I have no files named such | 19:39 |
| dutchie | it seems to be at the end of a chain of broken links | 19:40 |
| shauno | have you taken a peek to see what is in it? | 19:41 |
| DJones | dutchie: Don't know if this helps? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581412 | 19:41 |
| dutchie | well, one of the other symptoms of this weirdness is that every browser i have tried segfaults | 19:42 |
| * dutchie tries w3m | 19:42 | |
| DJones | Seems to relate to a python-numpy package | 19:43 |
| dutchie | ...but that error came up while trying to install epiphany | 19:44 |
| daubers | Evening | 20:05 |
| Danawar2 | Heyaa i have a program in c++ within a file called program how do i run it? | 20:08 |
| daubers | Danawar2: Sorry? | 20:10 |
| Danawar2 | Sorry, I copied some hello world code into gedit and saved it called 'program' how do I run this so I get the output? I normally use VB and just click play. | 20:12 |
| daubers | Danawar2: You'll need to compile it | 20:13 |
| Danawar2 | How can i go about doing that? | 20:13 |
| Danawar2 | I tried gcc program | 20:14 |
| daubers | Danawar2: You'll need to use g++ | 20:14 |
| Danawar2 | File format not recognized | 20:14 |
| daubers | Danawar2: Can you pastebin the exact command you used? | 20:15 |
| Danawar2 | Sorry internet is playing up at the moment wont be long | 20:16 |
| Danawar2 | http://pastebin.com/NAv93qcd | 20:17 |
| daubers | Danawar2: Ok, thats more standard c than c++, if you rename the file to have a .c extension it will compile with gcc | 20:18 |
| daubers | It will produce an executable called a.out | 20:18 |
| daubers | To run that you'll need to just type ./a.out | 20:19 |
| stuphi | mv program program.c | 20:19 |
| daubers | Danawar2: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/540412/ is a bit more C++ like | 20:20 |
| daubers | c++ source files should have the extension .cpp | 20:20 |
| Danawar2 | Whats better to learn c or c++ | 20:21 |
| Danawar2 | because we learn c# at uni | 20:21 |
| daubers | Danawar2: Nothing wrong with c#, just need to use Mono to use it on Linux | 20:21 |
| daubers | Danawar2: Also, there is no real !better . It depends on what you want to achieve | 20:21 |
| daubers | !better | 20:22 |
| lubotu3 | Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. | 20:22 |
| daubers | Hmm.... not sure on the wording of that last bit. Someone must have got annoyed :) | 20:22 |
| Danawar2 | hehe well i'm doing security so i want to learn a bit of everything but i enjoy creating things so i was thinking of creating small 3D games to help learn programing, | 20:23 |
| Danawar2 | Why does it call the file a.out? | 20:23 |
| daubers | Danawar2: Convention. You can tell it what to call it using the "-o" flag | 20:24 |
| daubers | Danawar2: Type "man gcc" or "man g++" to get the manual | 20:24 |
| zleap | where is the gthumb slideshow option in xubuntu 10.10 | 20:25 |
| stuphi | Danawar2: a.out stands for Assembler Output | 20:25 |
| zleap | can't fimd it, its there in ubuntu 10.04 | 20:25 |
| Danawar2 | ok cheers and the man page is llongg :D | 20:25 |
| ali1234 | Danawar2: get this book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language_%28book%29 | 20:28 |
| ali1234 | man pages are useless for learning C | 20:28 |
| daubers | ali1234: I thought everyone had to own a copy of that book by law | 20:30 |
| ali1234 | anyone who claims to be a programmer... | 20:31 |
| daubers | heh, mines covered in sticky notes and pencilled in notes | 20:31 |
| Danawar2 | So far i see very little difference between c# and c :P | 20:44 |
| gord | finally got around to putting the natty unity on my netbook, works really well :) | 20:57 |
| nperry | I like unity | 20:58 |
| ali1234 | seriously? | 20:58 |
| nperry | Even on the desktop | 20:58 |
| ali1234 | you must have extremely low expectations | 20:58 |
| gord | natty unity on the desktop is very nice right now | 20:58 |
| ali1234 | i tried it yesterday, it is extremely buggy | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | unless they rewrote half the code since then or something | 20:59 |
| nperry | you just don't know how to make it work ;) | 20:59 |
| gord | we re-wrote all the visuals ali1234 | 20:59 |
| gord | its now in C++ instead of vala and using compiz instead of mutter | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | since alpha 1? | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | did you fix the broken dock bar thing? | 21:00 |
| gord | alpha one was like last thurday o_O | 21:00 |
| gord | geez, of course its buggy | 21:00 |
| gord | its alpha | 21:00 |
| nperry | its aplha, its going to be buggy | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | so it's buggy *and* it works really well? aren't those mutually exclusive? | 21:00 |
| nperry | But at the moment all seems to be pretty stable | 21:00 |
| gord | alpha basically means " you are lucky if we don't destroy your entire computer" | 21:00 |
| nperry | with no show stopping bugs | 21:01 |
| gord | it works well for me ali1234, but thats how the world works, it doesn't seem to work well for you, that would be a bug | 21:01 |
| gord | can't figure out how to delete/move things to my sd card even though i have obviously done this before | 21:03 |
| gord | wrong channel sorry :x | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | how do i report bugs on unity btw? | 21:03 |
| nperry | ubuntu-bug unity | 21:03 |
| gord | talking about my wii if anyone knows how to do that | 21:03 |
| nperry | gord: I've done it but can't remember how now | 21:04 |
| popey | ahem... http://twitter.com/#!/uupc/status/11889455057080320 | 21:10 |
| ali1234 | "ubuntu-bug unity" doesn't work on alpha 1 live image... | 21:15 |
| ali1234 | oh wait, it didn't store my wireless key | 21:16 |
| czajkowski | peeka boo | 21:16 |
| AlanBell | evening all | 21:16 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: howdy | 21:16 |
| * AlanBell listens to other Laura | 21:17 | |
| czajkowski | oh where | 21:17 |
| AlanBell | http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org:8000/ | 21:17 |
| AlanBell | and over to popey now | 21:17 |
| czajkowski | m3u ? | 21:18 |
| czajkowski | xspf? | 21:18 |
| AlanBell | m3u | 21:18 |
| MartijnVdS | mplayer $url works | 21:19 |
| Azelphur | gmail seems to be dropping the ball on spam recently :( | 22:05 |
| Azelphur | I've had 3 get through this week | 22:05 |
| danfish | !bug 649345 | 22:19 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 649345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "package linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic onwards fail to install/upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649345 | 22:19 |
| Azelphur | Anyone know how to use ubuntu-bug to wait for xorg to crash and grab the backtrace | 22:50 |
| Azelphur | gonna highlight popey since he probably knows :) | 22:51 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Get Started Hacking On Unity Bitesize Bugs - http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/12/06/get-started-hacking-on-unity-bitesize-bugs/ | 23:03 |
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
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