[00:39] <ShawnR> ok, i hope someone can help me
[00:40] <ShawnR> my terminal window i'm in now is the only thing responding in gnome
[00:41] <ShawnR> i can switch to tty1 or whatever the ctrl+alt+F1 stuff is and work fine, but I can't switch to any other window, and my mouse won't change from the text input I bar
[00:41] <ShawnR> I checked top and nothing is even taking more than 1%
[01:16] <dorgan> hello all
[01:41] <itnet7> ShawnR: were you right in the middle of workong on something? If not, and you can get to ctrl+alt+f1 you can type: sudo service gdm restart (assuming you're running gnome).
[03:14] <ShawnR> itnet7: i was in the middle of something in inkscape
[03:14] <ShawnR> does restarting gdm kill all windows i guess?  I killed the gnome-session, which prolly did the same thinge
[03:14] <itnet7> ShawnR: man... sorry to hear that
[03:14] <itnet7> yes
[03:18] <ShawnR> s'ok, luckily wasn't too much
[03:19] <ShawnR> i later went in and turned on auto-save... lol
[03:19] <ShawnR> i did pretty good, my first time using inkscape other than to do fancy text in a video editor
[03:19] <ShawnR> made a logo for my wife's "company" (selling crocheted and other crafty type items)
[03:37] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping 
[03:45] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: I'm about to hit the rack need something?
[03:48] <itnet7> RoAkSoAx: Talk with you in the Morning. 
[04:03] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7 just wanted to say hi have a good one dude
[13:55] <reya276> Morning Everyone
[13:58] <maxolasersquad> reya276: Good morning!
[14:19] <jgdovin> hola all
[14:20] <jgdovin> ive got a little issue im trying to figure out
[14:20] <tiemonster> what's that?
[14:20] <jgdovin> I set up an internal ubuntu server so i can set up a testing environment at work, and also run an internal time clock to get them off of paper punch cards
[14:21] <jgdovin> i had it set up behind our untangle server and was having some issues so i moved it to connect directly to our router and it cannot get outside access
[14:21] <tiemonster> DNS is set up properly?
[14:21] <jgdovin> I have tried doing a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces as well as dhcp
[14:22] <jgdovin> when i try to ping google.com it says unkown host right away, so i guess my dns is fudged up
[14:26] <jgdovin> how are you doin btw tiemonster? I havent been in here in a while
[14:26] <DammitJim> can one do HTTPS over a port other than 443?
[14:26] <DammitJim> that should be no problem even with certificates, right?
[14:28] <tiemonster> jgdovin: yes, DNS is jacked up. that's your problem. I'm ok.
[14:28] <tiemonster> u?
[14:28] <tiemonster> DammitJim: with proper configuration, yes
[14:28] <tiemonster> it's common for high-security applications
[14:28] <DammitJim> configuration where?
[14:28] <tiemonster> apache
[14:28] <DammitJim> ok, on the webserver... got it
[14:29] <DammitJim> I thought we were running out of public IP addresses in the world... I guess not
[14:29] <tiemonster> so the url would look like https://example.com:9000/ for example
[14:29] <tiemonster> and you would change the SSL.conf to read Listen 9000 instead of Listen 443
[14:29] <DammitJim> these developers make up services with different internal IP addressess as if there was no tomorrow
[14:29] <jgdovin> tiemonster: any suggestions on where to start looking? Its a simple set up really.. its just a cable modem coming in to a linksys wrt54g router, then that goes to our switch.. but the server is plugged into the wrt54g
[14:29] <DammitJim> ok, that I have done... just wasn't sure about the certificate part
[14:29] <tiemonster> jgdovin: pastebin your ifconfig output
[14:30] <jgdovin> DammitJim: the certificate should just be serving that its secure no matter what port
[14:30] <tiemonster> DammitJim: port isn't on the certificate
[14:30] <DammitJim> got it
[14:30] <jgdovin> apache tells you wether its a secure port or not
[14:30] <tiemonster> !seen MichelleQ 
[14:30] <ubuntu-fl> tiemonster: MichelleQ was last seen in #ubuntu-us-fl 2 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 36 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <MichelleQ> Do we have a meeting tonight?
[14:30] <tiemonster> !seen MichelleQ1 
[14:30] <ubuntu-fl> tiemonster: MichelleQ1 was last seen in #ubuntu-us-fl 5 days, 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <MichelleQ1> Morning, y'all.
[14:30] <tiemonster> well hmph
[14:31] <jgdovin> wow she hasnt been around in a while
[14:31] <jgdovin> tiemonster: http://pastebin.com/W07m3578
[14:33] <jgdovin> and heres my interfaces file
[14:33] <jgdovin> http://pastebin.com/BVmppqaT
[14:33] <tiemonster> jgdovin: see if you can ping 8.8.8.8
[14:33] <jgdovin> yes i can
[14:35] <tiemonster> oh I always have trouble with static IP
[14:36] <jgdovin> lol
[14:36] <tiemonster> that's definitely the problem, though
[14:36] <jgdovin> well i changed it to dhcp and restarted the networking service
[14:36] <jgdovin> and it keeps the same ip address
[14:36] <tiemonster> and?
[14:36] <jgdovin> and same problems
[14:36] <jgdovin> lol
[14:36] <tiemonster> does it work?
[14:36] <jgdovin> is there something else i have to do to flush it?
[14:37] <tiemonster> unknown host when pinging google.com?
[14:37] <jgdovin> hmm wait one..
[14:37] <jgdovin> maybe that time it actually grabbed a new ip
[14:37] <jgdovin> gotta go check server room
[14:38] <jgdovin> argh...
[14:38] <jgdovin> so i restarted the networking service
[14:38] <jgdovin> and i couldnt connect
[14:39] <jgdovin> went and checked ifconfig and eth0 was down
[14:39] <tiemonster> nice
[14:39] <jgdovin> so i did ifconfig eth0 up
[14:39] <jgdovin> and it has same ip :/
[14:39] <jgdovin> http://pastebin.com/yAsK0qWM
[14:39] <jgdovin> thats correct right?
[14:40] <tiemonster> yeah
[14:40] <tiemonster> how are you restarting networking?
[14:41] <jgdovin> i was using /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:41] <jgdovin> so I went to the termninal
[14:41] <jgdovin> it said to use service
[14:41] <jgdovin> so I tried that
[14:42] <jgdovin> when i try service network start it says networking start/waiting
[14:42] <jgdovin> if i try to stop it says unknown instance
[14:42] <jgdovin> same with restart and force-reload
[14:43] <jgdovin> i think im just gonna reinstall the darn thing. lol
[14:43] <tiemonster> try restarting
[14:43] <tiemonster> not reinstalling
[14:43] <jgdovin> ok
[14:43] <jgdovin> one sec
[14:45] <jgdovin> shut it all the way down
[14:45] <jgdovin> started back up
[14:45] <jgdovin> same.. service network start gives me... stop/waiting
[14:46] <jgdovin> restart, start, force-reload say uknown instance
[14:46] <jgdovin> i mean service networking
[14:46] <jgdovin> and eth0 is down
[14:46] <tiemonster> and the only configuration file you changed was interfaces?
[14:46] <jgdovin> yea
[14:46] <tiemonster> check it again
[14:46] <jgdovin> only one i really knew about
[14:47] <tiemonster> !seen mhall119 
[14:47] <ubuntu-fl> tiemonster: mhall119 was last seen in #ubuntu-us-fl 1 day, 13 hours, 24 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <mhall119> crashsystems1: it's only the inotify setup lines that's still there
[14:47] <MichelleQ1> he's on his way to work
[14:47] <tiemonster> k
[14:47] <tiemonster> trying to decide if $60 for a hotel is worth it for the party, or if I should drain myself driving back at midnight
[14:48] <jgdovin> tiemonster: interfaces looks the same
[14:48] <MichelleQ1> tiemonster: go with the room
[14:48] <tiemonster> jgdovin: don't know then. sorry.
[14:48] <jgdovin> i dont think it matters that i was editing it with nano
[14:48] <jgdovin> heard some people had problems editing with nano
[14:49] <jgdovin> lol its ok tiemonster. Im gonna try a fresh install, see how that goes
[14:49] <jgdovin> that or go back to 10.04 never had a problem with that
[14:49] <tiemonster> I always have these problems when setting up static IP
[14:49] <tiemonster> I always seem to figure it out
[14:49] <jgdovin> yea but going back to dhcp should reverse it all. lmao
[14:50] <jgdovin> i'll keep debugging on the clock :-D
[14:50] <jgdovin> trying to save the ops manager some time, he has to add up everyones times every week. so stupid
[14:51] <tiemonster> MichelleQ1: wait, the party is only an hour long?
[14:52] <tiemonster> is this loco or personal?
[14:52] <tiemonster> guess I should PM that...
[14:52] <jgdovin> since when do ubuntu parties ever last just an hour
[14:52] <jgdovin> :-p
[14:52] <tiemonster> that's why I'm asking...
[14:53] <jgdovin> :-D
[14:56] <mhall119> tiemonster: did you get an answer from her?
[14:57] <tiemonster> no
[14:57] <tiemonster> mhall119: no
[15:00] <jgdovin> hi mhall119!!!
[15:01] <amouge_work> tiemonster: i have no patience today.. started a reinstall :-)
[15:01] <tiemonster> k
[15:01] <amouge_work> its monday, im at work, and dont feel like playing around. So anyway, hows the fl ubuntu loco doing?
[15:03] <mhall119> doing well
[15:03] <amouge_work> glad to hear :)
[15:03] <mhall119> mostly recovered from UDS
[15:04] <mhall119> though my ToDo list is still large
[15:04] <amouge_work> my todo list spans in to the 22nd century
[15:04] <MichelleQ1> tiemonster: you talking about the 18th?
[15:05] <amouge_work> just started a new job, they manage thousands of different items, 6 databases for online stores sharing same inventory, and They want an inventory system built by christmas..
[15:09] <mhall119> amouge[work]: nothing pays like rush work
[15:09] <amouge[work]> mhall119: too bad its hourly
[15:10] <amouge[work]> and not as much as i'd even like lol
[15:10] <amouge[work]> but its steady money
[15:10] <amouge[work]> tampa's rough right now finding a 40 hour a week tech job
[15:10] <mhall119> well, that's better than nothing right?
[15:10] <amouge[work]> exactly :)
[15:10] <mhall119> amouge[work]: know any python?
[15:10] <amouge[work]> mhall119: very very little
[15:10] <mhall119> php or java?
[15:11] <amouge[work]> I started learning it along side of django
[15:11] <amouge[work]> mhall119: php is my primary
[15:11] <amouge[work]> and im learning ruby and eventually will go back to python
[15:11] <amouge[work]> right now my focus is getting mongo DB under my belt
[15:11] <mhall119> hmmm, I got some php positions sent to me, but they're in Orlando
[15:12] <amouge[work]> orlando is a bit far for me. plus its rough because i freelanced for like 4 years
[15:12] <amouge[work]> and most companies want people with experience in a company, thats why i took this.
[15:12] <amouge[work]> stay here for a year or 2 and then i have an actual full time coding position in my resume
[15:12] <amouge[work]> for a decent size company
[15:13] <mhall119> msg call Scott Goldstein at 813-864-2480
[15:13] <mhall119> amouge[work]: ^^
[15:14] <mhall119> he's a recruiter in Tampa, got my a couple of good jobs in the past
[15:14] <mhall119> he might have some php openings
[15:16] <amouge[work]> hmm ok
[15:16] <amouge[work]> I'll look into him. im sceptic of recruiters
[15:16] <amouge[work]> last one screwed me over, i was offered two jobs since i got here 3 weeks ago. lol.
[15:17] <mhall119> so far Princeton has been the best recruiters I've worked with
[15:17] <amouge[work]> one by the guy that came in to familiarize me with the system since he built it 3 years ago, and another for fedex integration.
[15:17] <amouge[work]> fedex i dont wanna even think about.. i'd hate writing a hacked up vb every day
[15:17] <mhall119> they offer good pay and good benefits
[15:17] <mhall119> you can usually choose between hourly and salary
[15:17] <tiemonster> MichelleQ: all sorted
[15:18] <amouge[work]> cool, I'll look into them. Last recruiter I used gave me 20 an hour and charged the client 45 an hour, they used me for one project and said they couldnt afford it, they then went on to use me as a freelance under the table for a while
[15:18] <amouge[work]> recruiter told me i needed to lower my rate if i wanted to continue working there
[15:19] <mhall119> most will take around 40% of what the client is paying
[15:19] <tiemonster> amouge[work]: eek
[15:19] <mhall119> that's pretty standard
[15:19] <tiemonster> this is why I'm a salaryman
[15:19] <mhall119> some take upwards of 60%
[15:20] <amouge[work]> yea.. 60% is rediculous though. espeically if she had lowered hers to like 15 an hour for her pay, she woulda kept making money
[15:20] <mhall119> but Princeton gets good paying positions, around $30-$40/hr
[15:20] <amouge[work]> and she wasnt even offering benefits
[15:20] <amouge[work]> she got 25/hour that i worked just to do my timesheet every week
[15:20] <mhall119> they also pay taxes
[15:20] <amouge[work]> is princeton where that scott guy is?
[15:20] <mhall119> amouge[work]: yeah
[15:21] <amouge[work]> cool
[15:21] <mhall119> at least he was still there last time I heard from him
[15:22] <amouge[work]> I keep getting emails from some place called... veredus corp, they recruit in the area too
[15:22] <amouge[work]> i get calls occasionally telling me they have a position for me
[15:22] <mhall119> yeah, veredus is big
[15:22] <mhall119> I've not worked for them though
[15:23] <amouge[work]> i'll check out princeton since you suggested them, Im less weary if someone recommends them
[15:23] <amouge[work]> just dont wanna get screwed
[15:24] <amouge[work]> it is amazing though to see that ive been trying to get a full time job for the last year, now that i have it ive had 2 more offers in 3 weeks
[15:24] <mhall119> they got me 2 jobs, the second one went permanent
[15:25] <amouge[work]> awesome
[15:25] <amouge[work]> its nice, i was starting to get writers block of sorts as a freelancer. working from home always being there wears you down.
[15:25] <amouge[work]> My creativity has come back and im starting to enjoy it like I did when I first started
[15:43] <DammitJim> why can't I reach public IP addresses that I own from inside my network? Is that normal?
[15:54] <amouge[work]> reinstalling fixed the problem :D
[15:54] <amouge[work]> now to try static
[15:57] <amouge[work]> yay! I can ping google.com with static ip setup. woohoo
[16:07] <zoopster> DammitJim: it's normal if your trying to go out and come back on a non-routable address
[16:09] <zoopster> DammitJim: but with a proper firewall config, it *should* not be a problem unless it's viewed as a security issue
[16:17] <crashsystems1> Someone mention me recently? This tab was highlighted, but my logs don't go back for
[16:17] <crashsystems1> Far*
[16:24] <mhall119> crashsystems1: it was me
[16:24] <crashsystems1> Hello
[16:25] <mhall119> was just replying about the inotify code
[16:25] <crashsystems1> Ok
[16:26]  * crashsystems1 wishes he had time to get a breakfast burrito
[16:26] <amouge[work]> crashsystems1: there is always time for breakfast burritos!
[16:27] <crashsystems1> Work might disagree
[16:28] <amouge[work]> hehe. oh, i have people to go get stuff like that for me ;D
[16:28] <crashsystems1> Oh well, I'll have coffee and cereal at the office
[16:28] <amouge[work]> wtf? my right parentheses isnt working on this computer
[16:28] <crashsystems1> Nice
[16:28] <amouge[work]> and I know its not the keyboard cause i have synergy set up... and it works fine on the other computer same keyboard. weird as crap!
[16:30] <crashsystems1> Hash browns sound good too this morning
[16:30] <amouge[work]> mmm
[16:30] <amouge[work]> I actually was so hungry i ate my subway that was meant for lunch
[16:31] <crashsystems1> Lol
[16:31] <amouge[work]> tuna in the morning is probably not a good idea
[16:32] <crashsystems1> Very true
[16:34] <mhall119> zoopster: got lunch plans?
[16:37] <DammitJim> thanks zoopster 
[16:37] <DammitJim> what do you mean by a non routable address?
[16:37] <DammitJim> it's an address I can get to from the outside
[16:41] <zoopster> mhall119: yea unfortunately today is trashed
[16:41] <mhall119> ok, another day then
[16:43] <zoopster> DammitJim: non routable address is one that routers drop...10. for 24 bit block 172.16 for the 20 bit block, and 192.168 for the 16 bit block
[16:44] <zoopster> DammitJim: I think the ipv6 arch has a similar concept, but I don't know what it is
[18:07] <amouge[work]> wow freaking weird.. all of the sudden i cant get to our hosting company or any of our websites, but according to downforeveryoneorjustme.com all the sites are up
[18:10] <jimmah> dantalizing: here I am from webos...wheeee
[18:21] <amouge[work]> lol
[18:46] <ImitatingReality> Hello folks.
[18:47] <ImitatingReality> Hmm. Dead in here.
[18:48] <amouge[work]> shhh.. we are napping
[18:52] <zoopster> ImitatingReality: it's not really
[18:53] <zoopster> wow...it's already 2p I just started working it seems and I started at 0530 
[18:58] <ImitatingReality> *yawn*
[18:58] <ImitatingReality> I got up late
[18:58] <ImitatingReality> but i went to bed late.
[19:03] <ImitatingReality> having fun working zoopster
[19:03] <ImitatingReality> ?
[19:03] <amouge[work]> lol my day is flying by too
[19:04] <amouge[work]> now if i can smack samba in to being a bit quicker
[19:07] <zoopster> yes ImitatingReality having fun
[19:07] <zoopster> there is only one way to work you know...if you don't like it, don't do it!
[19:07] <ImitatingReality> yup
[19:07] <amouge[work]> zoopster: True :)
[19:07] <ImitatingReality> mmm... ice cream...
[19:08] <zoopster> anyone pick up the cyanogenmod 6.1 update?
[19:08] <amouge[work]> argh.. wtf?
[19:08] <zoopster> dantalizing: ??
[19:09]  * ImitatingReality smacks computer
[19:10] <ImitatingReality> I can't even download the upgrades.
[19:10] <zoopster> ImitatingReality: for cyanogenmod?
[19:10] <ImitatingReality> no
[19:10] <zoopster> or just ubuntu
[19:10] <ImitatingReality> for ubuntu
[19:10] <zoopster> well that stinks
[19:10] <zoopster> mirror issue?
[19:10] <ImitatingReality> im stuck in 9.4 kubuntu
[19:10] <ImitatingReality> yes
[19:11] <ImitatingReality> I tried to download the security updates and whatnot but the package thing crashed
[19:11] <amouge[work]> anyone good with samba?
[19:12] <amouge[work]> nvm got it :)
[19:12] <ImitatingReality> I tried to download the security updates and whatnot but the package thing crashed
[19:12] <ImitatingReality> agh
[19:12] <ImitatingReality> arrow keys... -_-
[19:12] <ImitatingReality> it doesnt help i havent been using computers in a while so its like all my computer knowledge leaked out of my head
[19:15] <ImitatingReality> ah well. i give up.
[19:25] <zoopster> ImitatingReality: go to a terminal prompt and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and that will do it all for you.
[19:58] <amouge[work]> anyone really familiar with pear problems?
[19:58] <amouge[work]> I cant get apache to recognize pear is installed.. but cli sees it fine...
[19:58] <amouge[work]> ran a test script in browser and in cli using php test2.php
[19:59] <amouge[work]> cli returns pass, browser returns fail when i try to require('PEAR.php');
[20:19] <reya276> hey I have a nook(older B&W) and I want to get books from Google Book Store but it says I need this 'eReader library management software' is this available for Ubuntu
[20:19] <reya276> take a look here http://books.google.com/help/ebooks/ereader.html
[20:26] <mhall119> reya276: calibre might do what you need
[20:26] <mhall119> http://calibre-ebook.com/
[20:27] <reya276> oh I have that already
[20:27] <amouge[work]> argh gonna shoot myself over this pear crap
[20:28] <reya276> but why would I need that it says all I have to do is put it in my nook directory and done, but I see what you mean in case it does not read the format I can use this to convert it
[20:28] <reya276> PEAR
[20:29] <reya276> PHP PEAR
[20:29] <amouge[work]> yea php pear :/
[20:29] <reya276> shooting one self is not a very good Idea
[20:29] <amouge[work]> awwww your no fun
[20:29] <reya276> but if it makes you happy go for it, LOL
[20:29] <amouge[work]> jee thanks :-p
[20:29] <amouge[work]> lol
[20:30] <amouge[work]> i just wanna test out this stupid freaking time clock script to see if it will work for our needs. so annoying
[20:32] <reya276> did you install the PEAR modules for apache and PHP from the repositories
[20:33] <reya276> I too had issues getting PEAR to work without Webmail Server and EgroupWare, it turned out I did not have the modules for PEAR installed
[20:33] <reya276> *with our
[20:34] <amouge[work]> hmm.. dunno about the apache modules
[20:34] <reya276> yeah, take a look and make sure they are active/installed
[20:34] <amouge[work]> isnt it just called php-pear ?
[20:35] <reya276> this is for Web base programming right
[20:35] <amouge[work]> yes
[20:35] <reya276> one sec, let me look at my apache config
[20:37] <itnet7> reya276: The site says you need digital editions to download the actual e-book. The acsm file that you originally downloaded when you purchased the e-book is like a digital receipt that grants you the ability to get the download the actual .pdf or epub formatted book through digital edtions. Holy DRM Batman!.
[20:37] <amouge[work]> lol
[20:38] <reya276> LOL
[20:38] <reya276> oh so I should not buy books from google, I don't think I have a choice is not like any other seller has zero DRM
[20:39] <reya276> I rather support Google than Amazon or BN
[20:39] <itnet7> I'll bet the Adobe Digitial Editions will rely upon .net so you probably won't be able run it in wine
[20:39] <reya276> but whatever I guess in this DRM world is all the same right
[20:39] <itnet7> I think it might be better for you to get the books straight from the publisher if possible
[20:40] <itnet7> O'reilley books do not at this point seem to contain DRM, and you can directly download .pdf's I believe
[20:40] <reya276> well I get them from BN right now since I have a Nook the only issue is that I can't sync to my PC because BN does not have a Desktop software for Ubuntu, Only WinJunk/MAC
[20:41] <reya276> Why I don't understand is why Google does not come up with a desktop ap for Ubuntu as is the most popular desktop dist for nix
[20:41] <reya276> DRM or not
[20:42] <amouge[work]> you think my problem could be with permissions?
[20:42] <reya276> at this point I can care less, it has gotten to the point that you can't get anything without it
[20:42] <amouge[work]> cause im running php cli as root
[20:42] <itnet7> Chuck and I have successfully used Calibre to sideload books, not sure about synching with purchased books. Make sure you're using the latest calibre though if you notice any issues with your device appearing
[20:42] <reya276> music on some stores
[20:42] <amouge[work]> to test the script
[20:42] <amouge[work]> and if so, whats the workaround on that? :-D
[20:43] <itnet7> the standard delivered calibre continued giving me errors with the Sony E-reader I have.
[20:43] <itnet7> the nook was recognized immediately
[20:43] <itnet7> even with the standard version included in the repos
[20:44] <itnet7> not delivered, sorry
[20:44] <itnet7> but upgrading to the latest allowed for the sony device to be seen, and gave me some really cool added features
[20:46] <amouge[work]> [Mon Dec 06 15:43:23 2010] [warn] [client 192.168.1.117] mod_fcgid: stderr: PHP Fatal error:  require_once(): Failed opening required 'System.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/clients/client1/web2/web/test2.php on line 2
[20:46] <amouge[work]> i guess thats a permissions problem?
[20:47] <itnet7> reya276: check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-701191.html
[20:48] <reya276> it seems though you are missing this System.php
[20:48] <reya276> so it could an issue with the PEAR version that you are using
[20:49] <amouge[work]> [Mon Dec 06 15:43:23 2010] [warn] [client 192.168.1.117] mod_fcgid: stderr: PHP Warning:  require_once(/usr/share/php/System.php): failed to open stream: Operation not permitted in /var/www/clients/client1/web2/web/test2.php on line 2
[20:49] <amouge[work]> reya276: the same exact script is returning true through CLI php
[20:50] <amouge[work]> so its working in cli
[20:50] <reya276> amouge[work], right that is not a permission thing it is actually saying that it can't find System.php
[20:50] <amouge[work]> reya276: but it can find it when in cli? I checked the php.ini for both, and made sure the include_path was identical
[20:51] <reya276> that does not make sense because according to the first error you posted it says you are missing and inclue which points to system.php
[20:51] <amouge[work]> im just tellign you... I did a require_once('System.php'); echo 'true';
[20:51] <reya276> It could be a permission issue, sometimes PHP is not the best scripting language in terms of error debugging
[20:51] <amouge[work]> in cli it gets the true, so no fatal error
[20:52] <amouge[work]> in browser it dies and doesnt output anything
[20:52] <amouge[work]> :/ so frustrating
[20:52] <itnet7> Adobe at the least should have made ADE an adobe air app
[20:52] <reya276> oh ok then what are the permission assigned to system.php or the file which is calling the function
[20:53] <tiemonster> amouge[work]: permissions need to match user/group for apache
[20:53] <amouge[work]> the include path is owned by root
[20:53] <tiemonster> so either apply more liberal permissions, or chown to the same user:group as apache
[20:53] <amouge[work]> which is the default
[20:53] <reya276> are running this from the user directory such as public_html?
[20:53] <tiemonster> defaults never work
[20:54] <tiemonster> wait - what?
[20:54] <tiemonster> root?
[20:54] <reya276> or are you running it from /var/www
[20:54] <amouge[work]> reya276: ive got it set up so everything is served from /var/www
[20:54] <tiemonster> bad idea
[20:55] <reya276> ok in Apache you can set up a module where you can create all your web apps to run from your Home directory such as /home/username/public_html/
[20:55] <amouge[work]> tiemonster: its an internal server with no access to the outside
[20:55] <tiemonster> because permission problems are going to force you to either run apache as root (terrible idea), or chown /var/www to www-user (worse)
[20:55] <reya276> ok so from /var/www
[20:55] <reya276> then you will have to give it the correct permissions to run correctly
[20:55] <tiemonster> I usually create /home/www and chown it to www-user, setting this as the document root
[20:56] <tiemonster> then all will be well
[20:56] <reya276> I think it is usually 644 or 755 can't remember which one
[20:56] <tiemonster> amouge[work]: doesn't matter
[20:56] <tiemonster> reya276: that won't solve the problem
[20:57] <amouge[work]> tiemonster: hrm.. damn thats gonna change a lot cause i installed ispconfig to play with it too
[20:57] <reya276> tiemonster, right that way I don't have to worry about the permissions thing
[20:57] <amouge[work]> and it puts everything in /var/www
[20:57] <amouge[work]> lol
[20:57] <tiemonster> /var/www was made for static files
[20:57]  * amouge[work] smacks him self in the face
[20:57] <tiemonster> not PHP applications
[20:57] <tiemonster> I wouldn't recommend changing the permissions of that folder
[20:57] <tiemonster> but you can certainly do it
[20:58] <reya276> well ok then you can't change the permissions to your script, or why don't you just make wwwdata the owner
[20:58] <tiemonster> you could also just chown it to www-user or whatever
[20:58] <reya276> this way everything will run with the correct permissions
[20:58] <reya276> www-data
[20:58] <amouge[work]> i tried chown 'ing /var/www to www-data
[20:59] <reya276> then that should have worked, did you tried doing it sudo chown -R /var/www/appdir www-data
[21:00] <amouge[work]> lrwxrwxrwx  1 www-data www-data   30 2010-12-06 14:03 time.pnsnow.com 
[21:00] <tiemonster> you'll have to change the group as well
[21:00] <amouge[work]> ive been messing with all kinds of things
[21:00] <reya276> this way www-data will own everything within the /appdir 
[21:00] <amouge[work]> drwxr-xr-x  8 www-data www-data 4096 2010-12-06 14:55 www
[21:03] <tiemonster> don't know what to tell ya
[21:04] <tiemonster> amouge[work]: did you do it recursively?
[21:04] <amouge[work]> tiemonster: yes sir
[21:04] <amouge[work]> :/
[21:04] <tiemonster> man, crap luck today.
[21:04] <tiemonster> oh yeah - it's Monday
[21:05] <amouge[work]> lol yup
[21:07] <reya276> yeah that is very weird, it should have worked
[21:08] <reya276> what is it exactly that the script is suppose to do?
[21:08] <amouge[work]> reya276: right now im just running a test to try and include either PEAR.php or System.php both included in a pear install
[21:08] <amouge[work]> both work through cli
[21:09] <amouge[work]> the script im trying to install is an internal timeclock
[21:09] <amouge[work]> so that the boss doesnt manually add time anymore
[21:09] <reya276> Oh on another topic does anyone know if there is a lightscribe package to write on LightScribe CDs/DVDs
[21:10] <amouge[work]> reya276: like a program for doing that? as opposed to drivers?
[21:10] <reya276> then dude that Chown -R should have worked
[21:10] <amouge[work]> reya276: have you tried lightscribe simple labeler?
[21:10] <reya276> just for testing sakes try giving those files 777 perm
[21:11] <reya276> and see what happens
[21:11] <amouge[work]> the /var/www ?
[21:11] <amouge[work]> or the /usr dir?
[21:11] <reya276> no to the /appdir where your script is located
[21:11] <amouge[work]> lol thats what i thought
[21:12] <reya276> your web app structure should be /var/www/web_app_dir
[21:12] <amouge[work]> failure
[21:12] <reya276> man that is weird
[21:13] <reya276> ok do you have the "authz_user" module enabled?
[21:14] <reya276> and the "env" module enabled?
[21:14] <reya276> and the "autoindex" module enabled?
[21:15] <reya276> and just in case also enabled your "userdir" module too
[21:16] <amouge[work]> i assume that would show up in phpinfo()
[21:16] <amouge[work]> k i enabled all
[21:16] <amouge[work]> the only one not enabled was userdir
[21:16] <amouge[work]> still no fix
[21:17] <amouge[work]> im getting this when i restart apache btw
[21:17] <amouge[work]> Warning: SuexecUserGroup directive requires SUEXEC wrapper.
[21:21]  * amouge[work] sighs
[21:23] <amouge[work]> k fixed the warning
[21:23] <amouge[work]> but no fix for problem. lmao
[21:52] <reya276> amouge[work], damn dude sorry but at this point I'm not sure what is wrong
[21:53] <amouge[work]> its cool im testing some other theories
[21:59] <reya276> hey is there a way I can install a 32bit software .deb on my 64bit OS
[21:59] <amouge[work]> heading home all.
[21:59] <reya276> I know there is something about force something
[21:59] <reya276> or other....
[22:00] <amouge[away]> http://www.unixtutorial.org/2008/03/install-32-bit-deb-packages-on-64-bit/
[22:00] <amouge[away]> later
[22:01] <reya276> thanks
[22:03] <reya276> ah man total failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/540441/
[23:35] <cjohnston> do be do
[23:40] <ShawnR> anyone know why L3 cache would be disabled in BIOS for a Xeon processor?
[23:55] <mhall119> do xeons have l3 cache?
[23:58] <ShawnR> mhall119: some do i think... i know newer ones do
[23:58] <mhall119> oh, I didn't know xeons were still being made
[23:58] <ShawnR> and i honestly don't know which ones these are... got a dual Xeon 2.0ghz 2u server from my uncle, playing with it now
[23:59] <ShawnR> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117187
[23:59] <ShawnR> looks like that one might be it, with 4MB shared L3
[23:59] <ShawnR> at least... i'm hoping that is the right one