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apacheloggerjava is the most beautiful language in the whole wide world00:00
yofelhow so?00:00
apacheloggerbecause it is!00:01
Riddellpoor Ruby, so quickly forgotten00:01
yofelhehe00:01
valorieapachelogger: I got my netbook back!00:01
apacheloggeris it unbroken?00:01
apacheloggerdoes it have java installed?00:02
valorieto what email address shall I send my homework?00:02
valorieseems to be working 100%00:02
valoriedo not know about java00:02
apacheloggeromg!00:02
apacheloggerno00:02
apacheloggerjava00:02
apacheloggeromg00:02
valorieI don't remember!00:02
apacheloggerapachelogger@ubuntu.com <--- java support00:02
valorieand just opened it to Kate, and my assignment00:02
valorielol00:02
valorieok00:02
apachelogger200 EUR per mail00:03
valorierofl00:03
apacheloggerthat is 3002001032 USD00:03
valorieI've never had a problem with java00:03
valorieknock on wood00:03
apacheloggeror 99923838919^203013-3+321i of whatever shadeslayer's money is00:03
valoriealways installed and worked well00:03
valoriefrom time immemorial00:03
apacheloggersee00:04
apacheloggerjave is awesome!00:04
apacheloggerit is like a butterfly sitting on a rainbow, farted by a unicorn00:04
apacheloggerit is like coffee in the morning while the sun is tickeling your toes00:04
apacheloggerit is simply java00:05
apacheloggerwhat else...?00:05
valoriebloody effing hell, it's doing its stupid no wireless crap again00:07
valorieignoring that for now....00:07
valorieback to solving Code-In00:07
valorieyou'll get your homework a bit later, I guess00:08
valoriegrrrrr00:08
apacheloggerwireless <300:08
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204382 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/categories.xml Just remove it, or it causes a phantom category00:15
yofelRiddell: this'll be slightly more complicated than sdk :P https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebindings/4.5.85/+merge/42895 - I forgot to put that I added old stuff too into the commit message, add that maybe00:16
yofelok, why the hell does kdelibs fail to build now o.O?00:18
Riddellmerge looks good00:20
yofelah, I messed the new tar extraction up -.-00:21
yofelyay \o/00:21
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204384 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/CategoryView/ (CategoryViewWidget.cpp CategoryViewWidget.h) Watch for the search view's destruction and set the pointer back to 0. This way searching, going back to top-level, navigating to some other categories, and then doing another top-level search doesn't crash Muon00:29
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: bug 602705 affects Muon too. I could place akonaditray on a blacklist for the "Accessories" section. (Though it'd still show up in global search, so I'm having second thoughts on that)00:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602705 in One Hundred Paper Cuts "Description: Akonaditray" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60270500:46
apacheloggeruhhhh00:46
apacheloggerRiddell: ping00:46
_Groo_hi/2 00:46
_Groo_apachelogger: hey00:46
_Groo_guys how do i make a ppa recipe?00:46
_Groo_i wanna make daily ktorrent/libktorrent builds00:46
_Groo_im doing it manually, but with a recipe it would be automagically done00:46
_Groo_anyone can point me some docs/info?00:47
apacheloggerwiki00:47
_Groo_apachelogger: k what wiki?00:47
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: oh wells, I suppose the bug should just be fixed00:47
apachelogger_Groo_: the ubuntu wiki00:47
_Groo_apachelogger: stupid google thinks i wanna cook something00:47
apacheloggersupposeldy there is also junk in the launchpad wiki00:47
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: fixed where, though?00:47
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: the desktop file extracting thingy00:47
JontheEchidnaso, app-install-data00:47
apacheloggeraye00:47
* JontheEchidna shoves the bug in that direction00:48
apacheloggerdont ask me for how though00:48
Riddellapachelogger: hi00:48
apacheloggersince I consider it unfixable00:48
apacheloggerRiddell: you must be good with uml, right? ^^00:48
Riddellmm, well, a decade ago maybe00:48
yofel_Groo_: I know a lot about recipes, got the branches in bzr on launchpad?00:48
apacheloggerwell00:48
Riddellalthough I think I remember concluding that most of UML syntax is just made up to suit the user00:48
apacheloggerRiddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot111.png does that 0..1  on the on_error association seem right?00:49
_Groo_yofel: huuu actually ktorrent/libktorrent use git00:49
apacheloggerI am a bit in doubt now because I named it on_error, which sort of makes it conditional to the case that there is an error, in which case there would be 1 ErrorWindow00:50
_Groo_yofel: can you give me a step by step intro? i dont know much about bzr00:50
yofel_Groo_: ok, so first thing you need to do is set up bazaar imports for them00:50
Riddellapachelogger: can it have zero or one of the ErrorWindow objects?00:50
yofelgive me a minute00:50
_Groo_yofel: k tks :)00:50
apacheloggerRiddell: well, it can have zero, as long as the add() of AccomoidationAddWindow did not return false00:51
yofel_Groo_: I belong to the neon team, we're doing that for KDE trunk :P00:51
apacheloggerif it returns false the window is shown, in which case it has one00:51
yofel_Groo_: or trying to....00:51
_Groo_yofel: nice, if i get enough expertise with this stuff i can hep you guys later00:51
yofel_Groo_: hang out in #project-neon if you're interested00:51
_Groo_yofel: first thing i need to help out with ninjas.. my time is limited.. when/if my brain absorbs the dos and donts of recipes ill help ya out00:52
_Groo_yofel: right now i would be more of a dead weight00:52
yofelhang out anyway :P00:53
_Groo_i found this https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes00:53
_Groo_im there too :D00:53
Riddellapachelogger: presumably if add gets called multiple times you could have more than one.  I'd just not include numbers on that relationship, they don't add anything useful to understanding the diagram00:53
_Groo_yofel: i already do daily amarok builds (manually), the recipe for amarok might do the trick since they use git too00:54
* apachelogger agrees, though it is a requirement of the course to attach multiplicities to every association00:54
yofel_Groo_: consider yourself lucky, lib/ktorrent already has imports00:54
apacheloggerRiddell: still it would be 0..* though?00:54
_Groo_yofel: ok, first stupid question00:55
yofel_Groo_: ok, now you need a bzr branch for the packaging, like for the kde packages00:55
yofelsure?00:55
_Groo_yofel: those imports, who does them? can i do my own via my ppa? or i need to ask for them?00:55
apacheloggerRiddell: also, it would have one ErrorWindow instance at a time (that is if one considers the errorwindow blocking to the other window00:55
* apachelogger loves the uml00:55
* _Groo_ knows that if you love uml he will love ya back00:56
yofel_Groo_: no, those are bzr vcs-imports, they have nothing to do with ppas since they're source code only00:56
_Groo_yofel: so who does them? and can i create my own?00:56
yofel_Groo_: you can, like for ktorrent you would have had to go to https://code.launchpad.net/ktorrent and clikc on 'Import a branch' on the right (you need a project for the import, it's not required, but the vcs admins don't like it if you just import something under a team)00:57
yofelor a person00:57
yofel_Groo_: you can lick on the import a branch button anyway and see what the form looks like, pretty simple00:58
yofels/lick/click/00:58
_Groo_yofel: k doing it00:58
yofel_Groo_: ok, back to topic, you'll now need a bzr branch for the daily package packaging, do you already have something? Our neon branches are on https://code.launchpad.net/~neon and end with -ubuntu if you want some reference01:00
_Groo_yofel: huuu i requested to import from libktorrent, but it asks me to add the git or subversion etc etc, shouldnt he import directly from the source import request?01:01
yofel_Groo_: it needs to know *where* to import from, and don't try to add an import, it's already there01:01
_Groo_yofel: no bzr branch, never tried anything like this, i only discovered i could do recipes some days ago01:01
_Groo_yofel: yeah i know, but it doesnt show, all are empty, it that normal?01:02
yofel_Groo_: ok, the branch is simply the contents of the debian/ folder01:02
yofel_Groo_: what's empty?01:02
_Groo_yofel: ah ok, got the branch part, let me ilustrate the  part im stuck, just a sec :D01:02
_Groo_yofel: dont i need to register a branch instead of importing it?01:04
_Groo_yofel: bare with me :P im stupid01:04
yofel_Groo_: you register a branch if you intend to keep the source on launchpad. You need an import if the launchpad branch simply mirrors a repository kept somewhere else01:05
_Groo_yofel: got it01:05
yofelyou're not, I got confused by launchpad often enough already :P01:05
apacheloggerRiddell: I refectored the window somewhere else, so the situation resolved itself ^^01:06
apacheloggerRiddell: thanks01:06
yofel_Groo_: need help setting up a packaging branch?01:07
_Groo_yofel: this is what i see when i click on the import branch01:07
_Groo_yofel: http://imagebin.ca/view/W4sYTS.html01:07
_Groo_yofel: i need help with everything im totally lost, im afraid01:07
_Groo_yofel: i feel like a total noob D:01:08
_Groo_yofel: as you can see, when i do an import it doesnt fill the boxes automagically, so ill need to choose git and put libktorrent01:09
_Groo_git01:09
_Groo_yofel: or am i missing something?01:09
yofel_Groo_: np, we'll get to it - as for the page: yes, the branch need an owner that can change the description etc., needs a nick which is later lp:~<owner>/ktorrent/<nick> and you need to tell it which VCS to use and where the repos is located (git://git.kde.org/ktorrent in this case)01:09
yofel_Groo_: and as I said, you don't need to do anything01:10
yofel_Groo_: shadeslayer already set up the imports for neon https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/ktorrent/trunk and https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/libktorrent/trunk01:10
_Groo_yofel: but if i click the import button it will give me an error01:11
yofel_Groo_: what, the request import button?01:11
_Groo_yofel: yeah, and if i put the git one then it will show me whatr you said01:12
_Groo_yofel: that project neon already has it01:12
_Groo_yofel: so ihow do i proceeed to make packages for my ppa?01:12
_Groo_yofel: i import from neon?01:12
yofel_Groo_: yes, you can't import a branch twice, that would be useless, you have to use our01:12
yofelbranches01:12
yofel_Groo_: why do you want your own? The source is in a branch on launchpad, that's all you need01:13
yofelthe branches can be accessed by anyone, not just the owner. The owner has control over the branch description and whiteboard etc. but that's all01:13
_Groo_yofel: yeah i got it, im now creating a recipe with the make recipe option in neon01:13
_Groo_in neon branch01:13
_Groo_i got the idea now, i just need help with the recipes01:14
_Groo_i like this tech, its very cool :)01:14
yofelsure, just likes to break apart *-.- (I'll tell you later...)01:14
yofel_Groo_: ok, you're now on the new recipe creation page?01:14
_Groo_yofel: yep01:15
_Groo_yofel: already configured it, with name, daily builds, natty and maverick, my experimental ppa01:15
_Groo_yofel: just need the hard part, the recipe text01:15
yofel_Groo_: ok, and that's the point where you're stuck now since you don't have the packaging branch ready, for now just create the recipe with the defaults01:16
yofel_Groo_: and set it *not* to build daily01:16
yofelyet01:16
_Groo_yofel: k, sec01:16
_Groo_yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+recipe/libktorrent-trunk01:17
yofel_Groo_: good, now give me a sec, I'll set up the neon recipe too while I'm at it01:18
_Groo_yofel: k :) this first is for libktorrent that needs to be built first01:18
_Groo_yofel: then i need to do for ktorrent and import the libktorrent that was built previously01:19
yofelslow down, you're far away from ktorrent :P01:19
_Groo_yofel: lol yeah i know :D01:20
yofel_Groo_: ok, here's ours https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon-libktorrent see the recipe text (especially line 3, that's what you need)01:20
_Groo_yofel: k checking01:21
yofelhm, I added a recipe for ktorrent by mistake, fixed ^^01:22
_Groo_yofel: k updated, what now?01:22
* _Groo_ is happy as a clam01:23
* _Groo_ doesnt know why clams are so happy to begin with01:23
* _Groo_ thinks its a clam thing01:23
yofel_Groo_: ok, updated more or less right, you need your own packaging branch (unless you don't mind your package being called project-neon-libktorrent :P)01:23
_Groo_yofel: me wants my package branch name :)01:23
_Groo_yofel: how do i proceed now?01:23
* apachelogger falls off the chair01:24
_Groo_oO01:24
_Groo_apachelogger: drunk?01:24
apacheloggermore like shocked01:25
apacheloggerlife is reather creepy when you are not drunk01:25
* apachelogger did not know01:25
_Groo_apachelogger: dont lick the wires01:25
_Groo_apachelogger: my cats learned not to lick the wires the hard way01:25
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot112.png01:25
apacheloggerI am the best uml artist evar01:25
* apachelogger thinks that maybe he could make a proper web01:26
_Groo_MY EYES MY EYES!01:26
yofel_Groo_: now you need the libktorrent packaging, how do you want it? like the package in ubuntu or..? (we do a very generic packaging way for neon: stuff everything into one binary package)01:26
yofeleeek01:26
_Groo_yofel: my packages are divided by main lib and dev01:26
* apachelogger forgot to do stuff again01:26
apacheloggeroh dear oh dear01:26
yofel_Groo_: do you already have your own packages?01:27
apacheloggerthats 5 classes missing right there01:27
* apachelogger is will go ubermad at some point01:27
_Groo_yofel: yep, i do them daily01:27
_Groo_apachelogger: arent you ubermad already?01:27
apacheloggerI should have gone into hat business01:27
yofel_Groo_: GOOD, shorts things down a lot, get the source and go into the debian folder01:27
_Groo_yofel: thats why i want a recipe, for lp too do them for me :D01:27
_Groo_yofel: there01:27
yofel_Groo_: ok, now run 'bzr init', then 'bzr add *' and 'bzr commit'01:28
_Groo_apachelogger: werent you suposed to be a singer or something?01:28
_Groo_yofel: k sec01:28
apacheloggeryes01:28
apacheloggerbut01:28
apacheloggerBUT01:28
apacheloggerhatting is also a nice way to earn ones living01:29
_Groo_yofel: bzr: ERROR: Unable to determine your name.01:29
_Groo_apachelogger: real singers dont do hating01:29
yofel_Groo_: geh, forgot about that part, sec01:29
_Groo_yofel: k done01:29
yofel_Groo_: you committed? bzr happy?01:30
yofel_Groo_: see 'bzr help whoami' for the error message01:30
_Groo_yofel: yeah but it asking me to edit the commit msg? should i just accept?01:30
_Groo_yofel: i already did the whoami :) all set01:30
yofel_Groo_: you need some commit message, my first one is usually 'initial import' :P01:31
apachelogger_Groo_: hatting, not hating01:31
_Groo_apachelogger: mispelled01:31
apacheloggerhating is bad for business as a singer01:31
apacheloggerbig time!01:31
_Groo_apachelogger: english isnt my native lang and im lazy01:31
apacheloggerit is not mine either and I am lazy too01:31
_Groo_yofel: sec, let me do this01:31
apacheloggernot as lazy as nixternal01:31
apacheloggerbut still01:31
apacheloggerwho was as lazy as nixternal again?01:31
apacheloggerah01:31
apacheloggerright01:31
apacheloggershadeslayer :P01:31
_Groo_yofel: k commited01:32
yofel_Groo_: once you committed fine, you need to put your branch on launchpad, think of some good branch name, then...01:32
_Groo_apachelogger: im the laziest here01:32
jjessei'm too lazy to argue01:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: what disturbs me is that you are not on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging ...01:32
_Groo_yofel: k branch name thinked, now what?01:32
_Groo_shadeslayer: thats cause hes lazy01:32
_Groo_yofel: dont know on me yet!01:33
_Groo_yofel: save your last breath for my braaaaaaaaaaaancccccccchhhhhhhhhhhh01:33
_Groo_know/die01:34
* apachelogger would like to have brunch01:34
apacheloggeroh hold on01:34
apacheloggeralmost time for breakfast01:34
apacheloggerhooray01:34
_Groo_apachelogger: lol01:34
yofel_Groo_: put it into your +junk stuff, lp:~paulo-miguel-dias/+junk/<branch> (you can put *anything you want* into a +junk branch, and have as many as you want)01:34
yofel_Groo_: do that with 'bzr push lp:~~paulo-miguel-dias/+junk/<branch>'01:34
yofeler, only one ~01:35
_Groo_can i call it? bzr push lp:~paulo-miguel-dias/+junk/libktorrent?01:35
* apachelogger munches some satsumas while he waits for breakfast01:35
_Groo_apachelogger: whats  a satsuma?01:35
_Groo_apachelogger: too lazy to google01:35
apacheloggerme too01:35
yofel_Groo_: maybe add -packaging or -debian or -ubuntu, so it has some purpose indication01:35
yofel_Groo_: but that would be fine01:36
_Groo_yofel: k, gotcha01:36
apachelogger_Groo_: dog toes01:36
apacheloggervery austrian food01:36
_Groo_will be bzr push lp:~paulo-miguel-dias/+junk/libktorrent-ubuntu01:36
yofelshould be fine01:37
* apachelogger looks in the mirror and thinks that he must have aged 3 years today01:37
apacheloggerincredible what crappy courses can do to you01:38
_Groo_yofel: k, added my launchpad id, and its uploading now :)01:38
* apachelogger places some class at stategic points in a uml class dia to create a proper web01:38
_Groo_apachelogger: you are aussy then?01:38
apacheloggerwhat makes you think that?01:39
_Groo_apachelogger: ahh austrian not australian01:39
apacheloggerah01:39
apacheloggerthere we go again01:39
* _Groo_ <- stupid01:39
_Groo_just missed by some continents and some million kms.. but thats ok01:39
* apachelogger issues a letter to the united nations asking them to kick australia out if they do not change their name :P01:39
yofel_Groo_: congrats, you have your first own branch on LP ;) https://code.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/01:39
_Groo_yofel: not yet!01:40
_Groo_yofel: omg im so happy...01:40
_Groo_i wanna thank my mother, my father, my dog, my cats, the members of the academy...01:41
yofelhaha01:41
_Groo_apachelogger for being such a good australian!01:41
_Groo_yofel for being my mentor and a father, THANK YOU YOFEL! <cries>01:41
yofel_Groo_: did it push? the branch shows as empty (I usually get some odd error for neon and have to push twice, not sure if it's the same here)01:41
* apachelogger eats some more dog toes01:41
_Groo_yofel: still uploading01:41
apacheloggeralso, if I were australian I would be called bruce, would I not?01:42
_Groo_apachelogger: hmm i have a dog... and he has toes.. didnt knew dog toes would be edible01:42
yofel_Groo_: how large is your debian/ folder o.O?01:42
_Groo_yofel: i forgot the tmp/ OMG!01:42
_Groo_yofel: k, completed01:42
apacheloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA01:42
_Groo_mental note, remove tmp first01:42
_Groo_apachelogger: and you ARE called bruce, harald is short for bruce01:43
_Groo_apachelogger: sitter is for BOB.. so you are... hmmm bruce bob01:43
_Groo_apachelogger: very aussy indeed01:43
_Groo_apachelogger: bb for short01:43
apacheloggeroh01:44
apacheloggerhm01:44
apacheloggerso I read that bottom up01:44
_Groo_yofel: k its there, now what? junk doesnt go away right?01:44
apacheloggerand at the first (i.e. last line) I was going WTF01:44
apacheloggerthen I realized that bb meant something differnt01:44
apacheloggerbut oh well01:44
yofel_Groo_: k, there's other stuff in there too which has to go, but it shouldn't break the package at least01:44
apacheloggerlate is the hour01:44
apacheloggeror early, depending on the pov01:44
_Groo_yofel: can i edit it from launchpad?01:44
_Groo_yofel: k my own answer.. no, i need to change it loically and do a commit, right?01:45
yofel_Groo_: no, either edit, commit, push again, or run bind, edit, commit, or checkout again and then edit commit01:45
_Groo_yofel: say again? oO slow? pls?01:45
yofelcurrently you have a local branch, that would only commit locally, you can either push again after the commit, or bind the branch to the launchpad branch before that (let's leave that option for now...) or to a different bzr checkout of the launchpad branch which will be bound from the beginning (if you use 'bzr checkout lp:...')01:47
_Groo_yofel: k, cleaned the debian, now what? 01:47
yofels/to a/do a/01:47
yofel_Groo_: use the first option for now, it's the simplies01:48
yofel*simpliest01:48
_Groo_k, commited and im now pushing01:48
_Groo_you have the 400 bad request error too? at first push?01:48
_Groo_yofel: pushed01:49
* _Groo_ already a recipe pro01:49
yofelbetter :)01:49
* _Groo_ <-PROblem :D01:49
yofel_Groo_: now go back to your recipe, 2 things to do01:49
yofel_Groo_: first: edit it and set your branch as the packaging branch instead of the neon one01:50
_Groo_yofel: strange it didnt show the 2nd commit yet01:50
_Groo_yofel: k, sec01:50
yofel_Groo_: LP needs a minute to update that01:50
_Groo_yofel: k01:51
_Groo_yofel: k, its now nest packaging lp:~paulo-miguel-dias/+junk/libktorrent-ubuntu debian01:51
yofelgood :)01:52
yofelnow:01:52
yofel_Groo_: see the recipe text line 1, there is this string: {debupstream}-0~{revno}01:52
yofel_Groo_: THAT is you package version01:52
_Groo_yofel: yes yes01:52
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot113.png01:52
apacheloggerit is a beauty01:52
_Groo_yofel: so i change it to {debupstream}-0padoka~maverick~{revno}?01:53
_Groo_actually01:53
_Groo_yofel: so i change it to {debupstream}-0padoka~maverick{revno}?01:53
_Groo_yofel: hmm wait, not right yet01:53
yofel_Groo_: which would currently translate to '1.1-0~144~maverick1' for maverick01:53
_Groo_yofel: so i change it to {debupstream}-0~{revno}~padoka~maverick?01:54
yofelthe 1.1 comes from debian/changelog, the part before the first '-'01:54
_Groo_1.1-0~144~padoka~maverick01:54
yofel_Groo_: no, ~maverick1 and ~natty1 is added by the recipe, leave that away01:54
_Groo_yofel: ah ok\01:54
_Groo_1.1-0~144~padoka01:55
_Groo_yofel: so i change it to {debupstream}-0~{revno}~padoka01:55
_Groo_like this?01:55
_Groo_even better: {debupstream}-0~{revno}~0padoka01:55
yofel_Groo_: sounds almost good, please add the packagin branch too, which would be (taking your last idea)01:55
yofel{debupstream}-0~{revno}~{revno:packaging}padoka01:56
_Groo_yofel: that would trasnlate to what?01:56
yofel1.1-0~144~2padoka~natty101:56
_Groo_yofel: yep, thatrs about right :)01:56
_Groo_yofel: # bzr-builder format 0.2 deb-version {debupstream}-0~{revno}~{revno:packaging}padoka01:57
yofel_Groo_: right, see https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes#Version%20numbers%20and%20Substitution%20Variables for the options you have there01:58
_Groo_yofel: im gonna save this log for further reference :D01:58
_Groo_yofel: so know i click on the build button?01:58
yofelmom01:58
_Groo_yofel: ??01:59
_Groo_yofel: i cant click your mom, it wouldnt be polite01:59
yofel_Groo_: yep, looks fine, now press the request build button ;)01:59
yofel_Groo_: sorry, that's my abbreviation of 'give me a moment' :P02:00
_Groo_yofel: ah...02:00
_Groo_yofel: i kinda lost track of tghe proper url for the build button lol02:00
yofel_Groo_: it's on the recipe page02:01
yofelbottom left02:01
_Groo_yofel: oh yeah XD02:01
yofel_Groo_: now do a testbuild and if everything goes fine edit the recipe and tell it to build daily02:02
_Groo_yofel: k, i mistakenly told him to build in other  ppa (my own too), but i got the idead02:02
_Groo_yofel: after that, i need to build ktorrent02:02
_Groo_yofel: the trick is... ktorrent needs the latest libktorrent02:03
_Groo_yofel: how do i tell in the recipe that it needs to import the debs from the ppa and do the build AFTER the libktorrent?02:03
yofel_Groo_: that won't ba problem, if you use the same PPA the recipe will just use the libktorrent package from there02:04
yofel*won't be02:04
_Groo_yofel: k, and how do say in the daily build to do libk first?02:04
yofel_Groo_: also, ALL the recipe does is the 'debuild -S' and dput part, after that it's just a regular PPA build02:04
yofel_Groo_: you don't :/ - you'll have to build with what's currently available, yesterdays libktorrent usually02:05
_Groo_yofel: that could be a problem02:05
yofelI was thinking about that once, since we have that same issue on a larger scale, but the only solution would be to add some date mangling into the deps, but since the packages aren't necessarily built daily that won't work :(02:06
_Groo_yofel: isnt there any apachelogger solution (crappy crazy hacks that only he understands) to queue the builds?02:07
apacheloggerplenty02:07
_Groo_apachelogger: oh you are still there? ;)02:07
* apachelogger is waiting for breakfast02:07
apacheloggertime is progressing slowly02:07
yofel_Groo_: if the recipes actually had a scripting interface sure, but not with what they currently provide02:07
* yofel agrees with that02:07
_Groo_yofel: actually the solution is to add queue to the launchpad daily build process, not mess with the recipes02:08
_Groo_yofel: imhpov02:08
yofel_Groo_: see that yellow box on the recipe page? follow that link and file a bug02:09
_Groo_yofel: lol :D launchpad guys hate my guts!02:09
_Groo_yofel: ive been winning about http upload of dput files via web for ages02:09
yofel*shrug*, I've had bugs that were fixed and some are still rotting in malone02:10
_Groo_yofel: they have this fixation about "code" and "patches" and "send it to us for free"... weird ppl02:10
yofel_Groo_: erm, you can send me patches for the undone neon packaging too :P02:10
_Groo_yofel: oh no :D another weirdo :D02:11
_Groo_yofel: i will eventually :D this is my first branch02:11
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204398 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ (ApplicationDelegate.cpp ApplicationDelegate.h) (log message trimmed)02:11
CIA-24Ditch our KIconLoader stuff and use straight KIcon. The KIconLoader stuff led to02:11
CIA-24some icons not being found, and some ones with transparent backgrounds having a02:11
* yofel looks as his neon recipes fail in the meanwhile *sigh*02:12
yofelstupid bazaar02:12
_Groo_yofel: no cookie for bazaar!02:12
apacheloggerdisney land!02:12
yofelbzr--02:12
apacheloggerCIA-24: I love you more than snow flakes02:12
yofelwait, no kubotu :/02:12
JontheEchidnaHeh, "Nepomuk Backup" shows up in "app-install-data"-using apps, and removing it removes kdebase-runtime02:12
_Groo_yofel: apachelogger rapped the poor bot02:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: design fail right there02:13
yofel_Groo_: see this incredible error message 7 lines from the bottom http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60213623/buildlog.txt.gz02:13
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: not sure what I can do about it either :(02:13
_Groo_yofel: let me see02:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: only solution: do not list no desktop files that are part of a packge without other matching desktop files02:14
_Groo_yofel: ouch, out of memory? wtf... can this be done via console vars?02:14
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: what do you mean by "without other matching desktop files"?02:14
JontheEchidnaheh, knetattach is also a kdebase-runtime remover02:15
_Groo_yofel: aparently the builds worked /o/ \o\ \o/02:15
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: package a contains foo.desktop and bar.desktop - a must not be listed02:15
apachelogger...02:15
yofel_Groo_: nah, bzr uses >500MiB of RAM with our insanely large import branches and they had the problem that the recipes used so much swap that the whole build farm went unresponsive, so they fixed it by letting bzr fail if it uses too much memory02:15
_Groo_yofel: shoot the sysadmin and hire me02:16
_Groo_yofel: even better02:16
yofel_Groo_: are you gonna delete the packages or should I?02:16
_Groo_yofel: hire me to shoot the sysadmin02:16
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: .desktop files are also used for service metadata, so a legit app that ships a service wouldn't be listed02:16
_Groo_yofel: what packages?02:16
yofel_Groo_: the ones sent to the wrong PPAs02:16
_Groo_yofel: ahhhhhhhh i send to backports instead of my own PPA!!! OMG!!! OO OO OO02:17
_Groo_im sorry!02:17
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I sure do hope that app-install-data does only likefiles in /usr/share/applications/*02:17
JontheEchidnaoh, yeah. it would02:17
_Groo_my ppa also has backports and experimental, i mixed them up! 02:17
JontheEchidnaso if more than one app-install .desktop corresponds to a single package, throw it out?02:17
yofel_Groo_: I'll delete them, if they're deleted before they're published then there's no harm done02:17
_Groo_yofel: yes pls, remove them! 02:17
_Groo_yofel: it wont happen again!02:17
_Groo_i send to experimental and backports!02:18
yofel_Groo_: np, happened to me too :P (with the scribus ppa...)02:18
yofelblame launchpads confusing interface02:18
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: the problem with that is that akonaditray is the only application .desktop file in kdepim-runtime, so it would pass by that heuristic02:18
_Groo_yofel: yeah, cause i added my experimental ppa as the daily one, i thought he got that one by default.. i now see it doesnt02:19
yofel_Groo_: also, be conservative with requesting builds, you can only have one auto-build and 5 manual builds per day02:19
yofelthat's usually enough, just telling so you know02:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: still better than no fix at all ;)02:20
apacheloggeras I said02:20
apacheloggerdesign fail02:20
apacheloggergood look with working around it :P02:20
_Groo_yofel: yeah i didnt knew that either, i am conservative, is that i sent to the wrong ppas ¬¬02:20
apachelogger<-- is a design specialist now02:20
yofelright02:20
JontheEchidnalol02:20
apachelogger<-- loves java02:20
claydoh|werkhmm if it is snowing hard, people should NOT be going out to eat :( 02:21
JontheEchidnareally, apt should have a field where an app is definied as either an app or a package02:21
* _Groo_ offers its services to put apachelogger and the launchpad sysadmins out of their misery.. cheap...02:21
claydoh|werkoops wrong channel ..02:21
JontheEchidnaclaydoh|werk: agreed, however ;-)02:21
JontheEchidnathat's when you start seeing cars off the road02:21
* claydoh|werk would like to go home02:21
_Groo_i only seen snow once in my life, and im 35 :P02:22
claydoh|werkbut the people still come in02:22
claydoh|werkthey are HUNGRY too02:22
_Groo_claydoh|werk: tell them to eat their pets.. they pet toes first02:22
_Groo_claydoh|werk: like apachelogger02:22
* apachelogger saw snow plenty of times and he is 1902:23
_Groo_apachelogger: strange, does it snow in aussy land ;)02:23
apacheloggeryes02:23
yofel_Groo_: packages removed02:23
apacheloggerwhite powdery gum snow02:23
_Groo_yofel: can you remove them from backports and experimental, they completed the build02:23
apachelogger...02:23
_Groo_yofel: tks yofel, gonna take the dog out and get some food, im gonna try the ktorrent one on my own, see if i learned the yofel way02:24
* yofel looks at this watery white swamp on the balkony and wonders if you can call this snow...02:24
_Groo_yofel: ill tell you tomorrow or so what i destroyed.. err... built02:24
yofelheh02:24
* _Groo_ looks at the white beach and wonders if it will snow in brazil in is lifetime02:25
_Groo_yofel: k changes the recipe for daily builds in MY experimental ppa :)02:26
claydoh|werkonly about 8 inches/20 cm02:26
yofel_Groo_: bug 676657 for that bzr mess btw.02:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 676657 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "recipe builds can use too much memory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67665702:26
_Groo_yofel: you commited a fix already?02:27
_Groo_oh btw, who did the kubuntu webpage announcement of the kde 4.6 beta 1? Riddell or apachelogger?02:27
yofel_Groo_: no, the 'bzr: out of memory' message IS the fix02:27
* apachelogger falls over02:27
_Groo_yofel: im confused now :D02:28
yofel__Groo_: no, the 'bzr: out of memory' message IS the fix02:29
_Groo_so who did the announcement, Riddell?02:29
_Groo_yofel_: how can that be a fix?02:29
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
yofel_Groo_: well, the build farm doesn't crash anymore, so that is a fix in some sense, not for bzr though :(02:30
_Groo_yofel: ahh know i get it, you added in the fix for the original bug02:30
yofel_Groo_: that's not MY fix, so don't blame ME02:31
_Groo_yofel: im not blaming you, i always blame apachelogger!02:31
_Groo_btw to whoever did the announcemnt, tks for mentioning me in the "others" part of the announcement.. i feel just like this: http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/100000/00000/4000/000/104043/104043.strip.gif02:31
_Groo_i exist now! AH!02:32
yofel:)02:32
_Groo_k, good night ppl, seeya all tomorrow :D02:34
_Groo_i might be a minion but im a existing minion!02:34
_Groo_i think ¬¬02:34
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204404 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationBackend.cpp ApplicationBackend.h) Blacklist any apps that have "kdebase-runtime" or "kdepim-runtime" as a package02:45
ScottK-droidUgh. Qt webkit needs Qt mobility needs Qmf, which is in Universe.02:51
ScottK-droidRiddell: ^^^ is going to block us on armel shortly (now that gcc is fixed).02:53
_Groo_yofel: ping04:26
_Groo_yofel: are you there?04:26
nixternalapachelogger: I am not lazy, just bored and have other things to do in order to waste my time04:30
=== hunger_ is now known as hunger
skamsterhello all.. as i read on kde's page, here are some pykde-developers?09:08
skamsterif yes, does someone know a good example how i could retrive adresses with akonadi?09:09
skamsterwould be very nice :09:09
skamster:)09:09
valorieskamster: this time is usually pretty quiet -- the Americans have gone to bed (except me) and the Europeans aren't awake yet09:13
skamsteroh, i'm a european (swiss) and we've got 10:14 am here.. but ok, i will try it later once again..09:15
skamsterwhat time is in america now?09:15
valoriewest coast, it's 1am09:17
valorieskamster: the Euros might be at work/school09:18
valorienot sure09:18
valorieit's just generally quiet about now09:18
ulyssesexcept the students who are too late from schhol that they don't even go:)09:18
valorieright, except the laggards09:19
valorielol09:19
skamsterok.. i'm also at work till the next 5-6 hour's.. 09:20
valorie:-)09:20
skamsterhehe, they're right.. stress isn't healty ;)09:21
emonkeyskamster, there are other swiss, german and austrian people in here :-)10:24
emonkeyand of course britain and I'm sure there are alot other europeans ...10:25
skamstermh, but they seem to like to sleep.. ;)10:26
skamsteror they're by other reasons very shy.. :p10:27
Riddellskamster: I'm afraid I've never used the akonadi APIs10:33
Riddellbut you should be able to follow the c++ APIs and convert to python10:33
skamstermh, yes i tried it.. but there are methods without classes.. which i didn't found on the pykde-api.. but must search the example first.. 10:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: hey! i was debugging a problem in Qt with thiago .... :P10:37
shadeslayerand i did kdepim and kdepim-runtime yesterday10:38
skamsterthat's the example which i tried yesterday to "translate"10:39
skamsterhttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Akonadi/Resources#Retrieving_Collections10:39
skamsterbut the line collectionsRetrieved( list ); is very unclear for me10:40
skamsterwhere is this method?10:40
skamsterif someone could tell me that, i maybe able to continue10:46
Riddellpresumably it's in a parent of the VCardDirResource class10:48
RiddellScottK: qmf moved to main10:56
ScottKRiddell: Cool.11:42
ScottKapachelogger: Could you  have a look at the grantlee FTBFS on armel.11:42
ScottKRiddell: Who is the grantlee upstream?11:43
RiddellScottK: steveire is11:43
apacheloggersteveire: 11:43
apacheloggerScottK: not before thursday11:43
ScottKapachelogger: OK.11:43
* apachelogger would be glad if qt would ever finish building11:43
steveireWhat's FTBFS?11:43
ScottKRiddell: From the build log I guess it's the ~standard qreal != double issue.11:43
ScottKsteveire: Failed to build from source11:43
ScottKI'll get you the log11:44
steveireI've built grantlee in sb before for ARM, but the unit tests fail on exit because of QtGui.11:44
steveireOk, thanks11:44
ScottKsteveire: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grantlee/0.1.7-0ubuntu1/+build/2058300/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.grantlee_0.1.7-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz11:44
apacheloggeroh no no no no11:51
apacheloggerno!!!!11:51
apacheloggerScottK: mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/buildd/qt4-x11-4.7.0/debian/tmp//usr/include/qt4/QtWebKit/': No space left on device11:51
ScottKWhat?11:51
ScottKIs that our device or your cross-compile?11:52
RiddellN900 run out of disk space?11:52
apacheloggerScottK: ours11:52
* ScottK looks11:52
* apachelogger goes for a cleanup11:52
apachelogger/var/cache is full11:52
apacheloggerScottK: I am already on it11:53
* apachelogger restarts build11:53
ScottKapachelogger: There's several chroots laying around in /var/cache/pbuilder/build.11:53
ScottKrm -rf the ones you don't need.11:53
ScottKOK11:53
apacheloggerRiddell: that just made me think that I could add the n900 to my local icecc ^^11:56
ScottKRiddell: The grantlee build failure is now the blocker on armel.11:58
Riddelllooks ugly11:58
* apachelogger expects some symbol stuff to fail with opengles build11:59
apacheloggergettinga decent mobile qt is a bit of an effort right there...11:59
ScottKLooks like http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60261038/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.qwbfsmanager_1.1.0-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz could do with some porting too.12:00
apacheloggerRiddell: is there a reason we build qt with exceptions?12:01
apachelogger(or: not with -no-exceptions)12:01
ulysseshm, l10n.kde.org still down12:02
eMylleromg, plasma's Search n Launch interface is awesome.12:03
eMylleralmost perfect12:03
Riddellapachelogger: I don't know, I expect we follow Debian with that, I don't know the issues involved12:05
apacheloggerRiddell: binaries getting fat and ugly and Qt not doing exceptions anyway12:05
Riddellworth asking fabo 12:06
apacheloggerfabo: ^12:07
RiddellScottK: qwbfsmanager looks easy enough, just a qReal in the right place12:08
ScottKRiddell: Easy enough for anyone who does C++.  That would not be me.12:09
ScottKMaybe maco will fix it.12:09
steveireScottK: I'm not seeing the actual error in the build output12:36
ScottKsteveire: The actual failure was caused by a timeout.  Is it doing something at that point in the build that might cause it to not produce any output for a long time?12:37
steveireYes. I'll point you to the fix12:37
steveire5a71ed118f6fae67a4a26ab867ab7575e5a3e34c12:38
ScottKThanks.12:38
steveireI'm not sure it'll apply cleanly. The previous commit to that moved some directories around,12:39
steveireThose are the first two commits after 0.1.7 though, so you might be able to just fast forward to it12:39
steveireWell, there's also a version number update actually12:40
steveireI'll try to make a new release by the end of the month anyway.12:40
ScottKOK.  It's time to get my youngest up and off to school.  I'll have a look once she's on the way.12:41
steveireOr if it's a problem, just package 0.1.6 until 0.1.8 is out. KJots/KAddressbook doesn't need  the very latest12:41
steveireOk. Later12:41
Riddellyofel: ping13:17
ScottK# list-missing files result:13:30
ScottK-./usr/lib/grantlee/0.1/grantlee_i18ntags.so13:30
ScottK-./usr/lib/grantlee/0.1/grantlee_mutabletags.so13:30
ScottKRiddell: ^^^ is it intentional we don't ship those?13:30
RiddellI don't think so13:31
ScottKOK.  I'll add them.13:32
Riddellthanks13:33
ScottKsteveire: git revert 5a71ed118f6fae67a4a26ab867ab7575e5a3e34c and then some diff/patch work (including reverting the version change) seems to have gotten me there.  We'll see how it works out.  Thanks for the assist.13:36
CIA-24[libqapt] jmthomas * 1204475 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (config.cpp history.h) SVN_SILENT: Final newlines++13:41
ScottKOK.  Uploaded.13:43
* ScottK crosses fingers...13:43
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204480 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp Document the placement of this functionality13:51
skamsterdoes someone know a good example how i could retrive adresses with akonadi?13:52
ScottKskamster: I think there's an #akonadi channel that would be a better place to ask.13:54
skamsterthanks :)13:54
skamsteris it on freenode or also on the kubuntu-irc?13:54
ScottKskamster: kubuntu-irc is just an alias for freenode.13:55
ScottKSo "yes".13:55
skamsterah, ok, i've got them as diffrent server's in quassel..13:56
skamsterbut i found it on the "kubuntu"-one13:57
skamster;)13:57
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204482 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Include cleanups13:57
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204485 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/AvailableView.cpp We must clear the old category pointers from the list after they are deleted, else the list grows by ~200 bytes in useless pointers each reload14:02
steveireScottK: Those libs you pointed out are in master, but not 0.1 branch14:04
steveireNot final, not BC stable etc. Are you packaging master?14:04
ScottKsteveire: Not on purpose.14:04
ScottKIt looks like I may have applied the wrong patch.14:04
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204486 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp Don't under any circumstances show the ApplicationLauncher when there are no apps to show. (E.g. in the case of a commit failure where the package is still installed or somesuch)14:04
ScottKSigh14:04
ScottKsteveire: Thanks for the warning.14:05
steveireMight be my fault. I'll check again14:05
steveireMight be git wierdness either.14:06
ScottKsteveire: Also it looks like there's a armel porting issue in whatever I uploaded that merits fixing before release: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60271389/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.grantlee_0.1.7-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:06
ScottKBut that's secondary at the moment.14:06
steveireYou should be able to git checkout v0.1.7 && git cherry-pick 5a7...14:06
ScottKYeah.14:07
steveiremake: *** obj-arm-linux-gnueabi: No such file or directory.  Stop. ?14:09
ScottK/build/buildd/grantlee-0.1.7/templates/lib/abstractlocalizer.cpp:50:47: error: call of overloaded 'localizeNumber(double)' is ambiguous14:10
steveireThere are two localizeNumber calls. One takes an int, the other a qreal.14:13
steveireWhy would that fail on arm?14:13
steveireShould it be simply double, not qreal?14:13
ScottKsteveire: I'm not sure which it should be but since qreal != double that is the problem.14:16
ScottKsteveire: BTW, I definitely had the wrong patch before.14:16
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204487 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp Add kdelibs5-plugins to the blacklist, as removing KMailService would in turn remove most of KDE.14:18
faboapachelogger: without exceptions you loose some features14:29
faboafair, xmlpatterns is disabled14:30
faboI guess a quick grep should help to find the dependent module14:31
ScottKFYI, doko just uploaded kdebindings, so whoever is working on -bindings for beta 2 needs to grab that change and include it in their package. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebindings/4:4.5.80-0ubuntu314:31
steveireRiddell: Are there kdepim-mobile packages that can be installed by desktop users?14:51
steveireOr are the packages you mentioned before only for kubuntu-mobile?14:52
ScottKsteveire: It's all one archive so they can be installaed on desktops.15:01
steveireOk.15:08
steveireTurns out the user needs to self-compile anyway.15:08
Riddellsteveire: yes we have packages of 4.6 beta 1 in kubuntu-ppa/experimental15:17
Riddellbeta 2 coming tomorrow with any luck15:17
yofelo/15:18
yofelRiddell: are you going to do edu?15:18
Riddellyofel: it just finished compiling here15:19
yofelthen you do it, I only got the sources so far, I'll rather finish networks15:19
yofel*network15:19
Riddellgo for it15:20
Riddellevening kronos 15:22
kronosRiddell: evening.. 15:22
kronosRiddell: was trying kdepim for maverick ystrday.. build failed .. http://pastebin.ca/2012919 15:24
yofelRiddell: kdelibs 85a https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdelibs/4.5.85a/+merge/4290415:26
ScottKsteveire: Once I got the right patch grantlee built fine on armel.  Thanks again.15:32
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204492 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp Add a bit of spacing to the menu path15:33
Riddellkronos: hmm, no useful error message there :(15:34
kronosRiddell: the entire log http://paste.ubuntu.com/540658/ ...15:35
yofelRiddell: does kdegraphics have a kexiv2 package for 4.5.85?15:38
yofelhm, trying to get firefox to search on a 12000 lines pastebin is a bad idea...15:38
yofelok, there's libkexiv215:46
* ulysses upgraded from Lucid to Maverick and then to Natty15:47
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204493 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp We already weren't using QChar and ' ' is a valid Utf8 character, so we might as well just put the spaces in the fromUtf8 function and not concatenate at all15:50
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204494 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp SVN_SILENT: kDebug()--15:53
Riddellyofel: yes libkexiv2-9 16:01
yofelkdeartwork wants kexiv2 for err... support rotating images with exiv data IIRC16:01
yofeland some files went missing in the slim-glow theme..16:02
Riddellyofel: yes, add libkexiv2-dev build-depend16:02
yofelI did, just took me a bit to find it16:02
yofelRiddell: network https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdenetwork/4.5.85a/+merge/4296216:05
steveireScottK: Great.16:10
Riddellyofel: you may need to update https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph for those new build-depends16:22
yofelRiddell: was going to do that after I'm finished, something I should add from your side?16:22
Riddellnot from me, just the changes to kdenetwork and kdeartwork16:23
yofelk, I'll have artwork done in a minute16:23
Riddellgroovy, we're almost done16:28
Riddelltime to get started on maverick I guess16:28
yofelRiddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdeartwork/4.5.85/+merge/4297016:32
* yofel goes updating the graph16:35
yofelthe new graph reminds me of apacheloggers UML graph from yesterday...16:39
Riddelldoes it make you want to cry?16:39
_Groo_yofel: ping16:41
_Groo_hi/2 all16:41
yofelit makes me feel fuzzy when I look at it...16:42
apacheloggermhhh16:42
yofelhey _Groo_16:42
apachelogger<-- uml graph lover16:42
apacheloggerfabo: I see16:42
apacheloggerso16:42
apacheloggerabout mobile qt and opengles16:42
apachelogger...16:42
apacheloggerfor some reason I get a fatal error when trying to start the opengl graphisengine16:42
_Groo_yofel: hey :) i sucessfully completed the libktorrent/ktorrent recipe, its working daily now :) im gonna do the same for amarok now16:42
apacheloggersomething about dri2 authorization failure or some stuff16:42
_Groo_yofel: ill get it from neon, just a quick question16:43
yofelsure16:43
_Groo_yofel: its saying in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~neon/amarok/master that the last import is from day 516:43
_Groo_yofel: is it normal to fail? i just asked to retry to see what happens16:43
yofel_Groo_: it disables itself when it fails 5 times in succession, there is some connection error in the log16:44
yofellet's see how the retry goes16:45
_Groo_yofel: yeah i noticed, but it doesnt try next day?16:45
_Groo_yofel: someone needs to manually try it again?16:45
yofel_Groo_: no, if it fails 5 times it gives up, permanently unless you retry it manually16:45
_Groo_yofel: k16:46
_Groo_now a package question for all16:46
_Groo_my amarok uses coverbling too16:46
_Groo_so usually i just copy the playground/src/etc.../coverbling to src/etc...16:47
_Groo_i do it manually and just patch the cmakelist via quilt16:47
_Groo_how do i say to the buyild package to do the copying for me each time?16:47
_Groo_basically a cp fromhere to there16:47
yofelgraph updated16:47
_Groo_anyone?16:48
_Groo_do i put in the rules file? anyone has a example? somepackage that does similar thing16:48
yofelyou could add it to another branch and let the recipe merge that into the package, haven't tried that myself yet though16:50
_Groo_yofel: no no, coverbling is inside the master trunk, in the dir playground, i just need the rules to copy it to the default src/ and leave the patching to quilt (already one), i just want the debuild to copy the files for me16:54
_Groo_yofel: yeah import is broken :(16:56
yofel_Groo_: yeah, but it's not part of the amarok source on launchpad right? the buildds don't have internet access16:57
yofellet me look at the error again16:57
_Groo_yofel: yes its part of the amarok code16:57
_Groo_yofel: its in the playground tree which is part of main trunk code16:57
yofel_Groo_: oh it is? then just put the copy command into rules?16:57
_Groo_yofel: playground/src/context/applets/coverbling/16:58
_Groo_and i just copy it to src/context/applets/coverbling/ and add the dir rule to cmakelist via quilt16:58
_Groo_yofel: yeah but how do i do that now? in rules i mean, the syntax changed so much with latest cdbs and such16:58
_Groo_yofel: its a normal bash command?16:58
_Groo_yofel: im lost again in that part16:59
yofelI have absolutely no knowledge about CDBS, so I can't help there16:59
ScottKRiddell: We finally have all the build-depends for kde4libs on armel and it's started ....17:00
RiddellScottK: awesome17:00
_Groo_ScottK: nice17:00
_Groo_yofel: k, gonna google around17:00
bulldog98+ScottK17:01
_Groo_but if some gurus could give a hint it would help A LOT <-----------------17:01
yofelhey bulldog98, can you update kdepimlibs in ninjas? new beta2 tarball17:01
ScottKRiddell: We still need to get the situation sorted with the various symbol files.  I think we need to be doing something with the symbols helper and generating an updated template, but I didn't get it figured out yet.17:01
bulldog98yofel: currently small bandwidth you could upload it and just change the uploader in the changelog17:02
=== hrw is now known as hrw|gone
_Groo_guys how do i copy one dir to other place inside a src tree with the rules files? with dh syntax i dont have a clue17:15
yofel_Groo_: amarok nees a new import it seems, they changed the git url. I'll take care of that17:15
_Groo_yofel: k, tks, will the lp link still be the same?17:17
_Groo_yofel: or i need to change the recipe?17:17
yofelnot sure, I'll try to delete this one first17:17
_Groo_yofel: k, let me know17:17
yofel_Groo_: heh, can you edit your recipe first not to use it? I can't delete it thanks to that :P17:18
_Groo_yofel: lol, k, im on it17:19
_Groo_deleted17:19
yofel_Groo_: re-added17:20
_Groo_brb17:25
yofelRiddell: did you merge bindings? still shows as pending on launchpad17:27
Riddellmm, I thought I did17:27
Riddellsilly bzr repository version breakage17:28
apacheloggerso17:36
apacheloggerseems my gles problems came from mesa not really supporting that stuff17:36
* apachelogger looks for binary magic to use17:37
Riddellhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.4-beta-117:49
Riddellmarkey: "The ability to show and hide the menu bar" is that intended for netbooks?17:50
markeyRiddell: no, not necessarily. some users had been asking for this feature17:52
markeybut we were against it, for usability reasons17:53
markeynow we made it so that it comes with a huge warning dialog17:53
markeyso that users won't accidentally switch the menu off, we  had that issue before...17:53
markeyRiddell: I think we will also get rid of the status bar at some point. all the information int here is redundant17:54
markeyyou can read the "Now playing" status like in 4 places, all over Amarok17:54
Riddellthat makes sense17:57
dantti_workapachelogger: ping18:16
apacheloggerdantti_work: pongo18:18
dantti_workapachelogger: so Tim said it's ok for we to go C, we have two files to translate if you are felling good to it :D https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/system-config-printer-devel/2010-November/000075.html18:18
* apachelogger thinks that the n900 will soon set on fire18:18
apacheloggerdantti_work: mhhh, c :)18:19
* apachelogger hasnt done C in ages18:19
dantti_workapachelogger: I know you love it ;)18:20
apachelogger<-- java lover18:21
dantti_workapachelogger: I think if we translate the first one ppds.py we can release print-manager :D18:21
apacheloggeroh18:21
dantti_workapachelogger: jave really? I thought it was python...18:21
apacheloggerbut I really think we should redo print-manager in java!18:21
* apachelogger broke his mobile image ^^18:21
yofelplease don't!18:21
dantti_workplease! don't!18:22
apachelogger/usr/bin/kdeinit4: error while loading shared libraries: libEGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory18:22
apacheloggerwhy not?18:22
apacheloggerdo you have something against java?18:22
yofelapart from the fact that it needs an insane amount of memory just to exist, no18:23
dantti_workhmmm no qt? or at least not a good one?18:23
dantti_workhmm closed vm?18:23
dantti_workgarbage maker?18:23
dantti_workor is it colector?18:23
yofelcollector18:23
dantti_workright, so we collect java and put it on the garbage :P18:24
yofelnow I know, rewrite it in ADA :D, doesn't have a good qt lib though :/18:24
* dantti_work stays with C/Cpp18:24
apacheloggerdantti_work: qt is crap compared to swinging, openjdk is not closed, garbage collector makes all sorts of sense18:25
dantti_workswinging sucks alot18:26
apacheloggerno18:26
apacheloggerit rox18:26
dantti_workok, write kde in java then.. :P18:26
apacheloggerbit by bit18:26
dantti_workand buy a super computer to run it18:26
apacheloggerstarting with printer-manager18:26
apacheloggerjava is not slower than c++18:26
apachelogger!18:26
apacheloggerthere are studies on that topic18:26
dantti_workwell I guess that's off topic and meaningless :P languages wars don't write code ...18:28
dantti_workso in case you still want that... we need C ;)18:28
yofeldantti_work: why not ++?18:29
* apachelogger wonders why dolphin always goes to shit in betas18:29
dantti_workyofel: because libcups is C, and python cups needs to glue with that, so it will be a shared C lib to be used by Qt/C++ and py/gtk18:29
yofeldolphin is freakin' slow here, but forks otherwise18:30
yofeldantti_work: ah, k18:30
dantti_workapachelogger: it was shit till 4.5.2 too :P18:30
apacheloggernot here18:30
yofels/forks/works18:30
* yofel has read too much about calligra...18:30
dantti_workapachelogger: it was freezing all the time18:30
apacheloggerdantti_work: dont place your pr0n all over the place then :P18:30
yofel^^18:30
dantti_work?18:31
apacheloggervideo previews are a drag18:31
apacheloggerand not using phonon18:31
dantti_workno, that wasn't the problem18:31
apacheloggeralso I wonder how long it can take to tar xf a flipping binary tar on the n900...18:31
dantti_workit happended when I open any kind of files, and even navigating on dir without any videos18:31
apacheloggerkubuntu_02_inti_functions.patch18:32
apacheloggertypo alarm18:32
* apachelogger larts apachelogger18:32
apacheloggerpvr-bin-5.3.0.0016.tar.bz2: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Mon Aug  2 02:12:01 201018:33
apacheloggeryou got to be kidding me18:33
yofelso much for java being good *-.- http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60281933/buildlog.txt.gz18:34
yofelok, maybe just openjdk sucks18:34
apacheloggerso18:35
apacheloggerdo I go out partying tonight?18:35
apacheloggeror do I continue this futile work on getting opengles on the n90018:35
Riddellcould you do both at the same time?18:35
apacheloggerno18:36
* apachelogger needs intarwebs and a build machine to go along with the opengles stuff18:37
apacheloggerbut it would seem I just need to find a driver/implementation that works on omap3, which apparently is this powervr18:37
* yofel tries to update to 4.5.85 on natty18:39
yofelRiddell: do you want to update kdepimlibs or should I try to, it was originally bulldog98s package so i'm not sure what to do with the changelog18:42
Riddellyofel: I think I did18:44
yofeloh right, missed it, sry18:44
Riddellyes I did18:44
apachelogger[  7162.815] (II) LoadModule: "pvr"18:53
apachelogger[  7162.817] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/pvr_drv.so18:53
apachelogger[  7162.817] dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/pvr_drv.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory18:53
* apachelogger sighs18:54
_Groo_hi/2 all19:16
_Groo_yofel: ping19:16
yofelwb _Groo_19:16
_Groo_yofel: tks yofy19:16
_Groo_yofel: since im behind a proxy at wotk i tried to push the bzr commit bia http, to my branch19:17
_Groo_yofel: but i had this error19:17
_Groo_bzr: ERROR: At https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+junk/amarok-ubuntu you have a valid .bzr control directory, but not a branch or repository. This is an unsupported configuration. Please move the target directory out of the way and try again.19:17
yofelnever seen that before o.O (ask in #launchpad maybe)19:18
_Groo_yofel: i used bzr push https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+junk/amarok-ubuntu19:18
_Groo_yofel: did i miss aything?19:18
yofelno idea, never seen thta19:18
yofel*that19:18
_Groo_yofel: k let me bug them19:18
_Groo_yofel: nvm found the problem :LD19:21
_Groo_yofel: i had done git add * instead bzr add * lol... he was right19:22
_Groo_yofel: my bzr was empty really :D19:22
yofelooops ^^19:22
_Groo_yofel: stupid brain + fingers19:22
_Groo_yofel: but still gives me me the same error when pushing.. maybe its not supported or im missing something... he didnt ask for authentication to upload either19:24
_Groo_yofel: yeah i dont think its supported, the error might be a generic one.. ill try to upload at home, should work fine..19:26
_Groo_yofel: i also learned how to do the cp thing.. its almost equal the old way19:27
yofel:)19:27
apacheloggerargh19:36
apacheloggerout of battery19:36
apacheloggerrbelem: ping19:36
rbelemapachelogger, pong19:36
apacheloggerrbelem: do you have some time for n900 stuff?19:37
* _Groo_ invokes the powers of apachelogger certifications!19:37
apacheloggerrbelem: there is a pvr gles implemention in multiverse19:37
_Groo_apachelogger: do you know if i can upload to a branch in lp via http? like bzr push https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+junk/amarok-ubuntu19:37
apacheloggertechnically we shoud be able to run plasma-mobile with --opengl if qt is compiled with es2 support19:38
neversfeldethere is no Amarok 2.4 Beta in the beta ppa, but kubunut.org says so19:38
apacheloggerrbelem: in parctise that sort of failed here, though that might be because my image is a mess from days of copying files around and around and around19:38
apachelogger_Groo_: no19:39
_Groo_apachelogger: no as i dont know , or no in - no you cant, go away?19:39
rbelemapachelogger, yup :-)19:41
apacheloggerrbelem: do you have access to our arm builders?19:42
rbelemapachelogger, nope :-(19:42
apacheloggerok19:43
* apachelogger transfers binaries19:43
apacheloggerrbelem: meanwhile https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP/Graphics19:43
rbelemapachelogger, maybe we should try mgraesslin kwin opengles branch too19:43
apacheloggeryes, but, that has no impact on plasma-mobile AFAICT19:43
rbelemapachelogger, are those binaries are enough to gles work?19:45
apacheloggerI think so19:45
apacheloggernot for qt though19:45
rbelemapachelogger, those packages pushes any xorg omap3 pkg?19:46
apacheloggerno19:46
apacheloggerrbelem: there is xserver-xorg-video-omap3 though19:47
apachelogger(neon enabled build that is)19:47
apacheloggernot sure if that helps with the affairs though19:47
apachelogger-omapfb seems to be neon-less build or so19:47
apachelogger!info xserver-xorg-video-omapfb19:47
ubottuPackage xserver-xorg-video-omapfb does not exist in maverick19:47
apachelogger!info xserver-xorg-video-omap319:47
ubottuPackage xserver-xorg-video-omap3 does not exist in maverick19:47
apacheloggerpff19:47
apacheloggersilly bot19:48
rbelemapachelogger, probably because they are only on ports.ubuntu.com :-)19:48
apacheloggeryeah19:48
apacheloggerstill19:48
apachelogger...19:48
rbelemapachelogger, did you try the demo of the wiki page?19:50
apacheloggerno19:50
apacheloggermy battery ran out19:50
rbelem:-D19:50
rbelemapachelogger, in the config git repository i saw something related to the sgx19:51
rbelemlet me check19:51
apacheloggerrbelem: the repos are a bit of a silly thing19:55
apacheloggerthey are not even in sync with 1.119:55
apacheloggerkronos: fancy updating akunambol package for the akunambol ppa?20:06
kronosapachelogger: yeah.. will try ..20:07
apacheloggergroovy20:08
apacheloggerhttps://launchpad.net/~akunambol/+archive/ppa20:08
apacheloggerhttp://akunambol.ruphy.org20:08
* rbelem is still waiting for his micsosd class 10 :-(20:08
DarkwingDuckhey rbelem, did you get that guide on the wiki?20:11
apacheloggercomputer says no20:15
apachelogger*cough*20:15
DarkwingDuckhehehe20:18
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot115.png I luv Phonon20:26
kronosapachelogger: is there a liblikeback ?20:30
apacheloggeroh20:32
apacheloggerno20:32
apacheloggerI did not release it ^^20:32
apacheloggerkronos: want to try yourself on making a git snapshot? :D20:33
kronosapachelogger: guide me ..20:33
apacheloggerkronos: http://gitorious.org/kmess/apacheloggers-likeback20:34
apacheloggeryou basically just git clone it, remove the .git directory and create a new packaging for version 0.1~git2010120720:35
kronosapachelogger: what should i name the package - liblikeback or anything else ?20:42
apacheloggerkronos: the source liblikeback, the binary packge however liblikeback020:43
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ping20:43
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: pong20:43
apacheloggercan you help kronos with that package?20:43
* apachelogger is going to a party20:43
* apachelogger just noticed that he is rich and must get rid of some money20:44
JontheEchidnalol20:44
JontheEchidnamust be all those GSoC monies20:44
apacheloggerno20:44
apacheloggerothers20:44
apacheloggergsoc is long gone ^^20:44
yofelconsolidation money from having to look at u1 code :P20:44
apacheloggersomething like that 20:45
yofel4.5.85 updated and works fine on natty here, and I have suspend and hibernate buttons back (not tested yet) \o/22:00
yofelbrightness control is still broken though22:00
yofeldolphin and gwenview start fast and without hal errors again :)22:02
JontheEchidna:D http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1552/dexter0.jpg22:07
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1204552 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (8 files in 3 dirs) In preparation for addons support, make the Transaction struct a class22:40
Riddellevening22:58
RiddellE: Build-Depends dependency for kdesdk cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libkonq5-dev can satisfy version requirements23:11
Riddellyofel: could you add kdesdk needs kdebase to the digram ^^23:11
yofelooops, will do23:12
yofelupdated23:19

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