/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/07/#ubuntu-community-team.txt

doctormopaultag: I've got no strings, to hold me down.05:26
paultagdoctormo: :)05:26
nigelbMorning folks!05:34
nigelbMorning kim07:03
nigelbgah, kim0 went offline07:03
dholbachgood morning!07:08
pleia2g'day dholbach07:09
nigelbMorning Daniel :)07:09
dholbachhey pleia2, hi nigelb07:09
dholbachpleia2, thanks for all your good work!07:09
pleia2dholbach: you too :)07:09
pleia2progress++07:09
dholbachyeeehaw :)07:10
* nigelb blinks07:10
jonoalright bed for me07:31
jononight all!07:31
dholbachnight jono07:32
jononight! :)07:32
duanedesignmorning all09:33
nigelbMorning duanedesign09:38
duanedesign.509:45
duanedesignugh09:45
duanedesigntoo early, havent figured out how irrsi works yet :)09:45
nigelblol09:46
duanedesignI uploaded a new translation template for CLI Companion if anyone who is bilingual gets a minute or two. https://translations.launchpad.net/clicompanion10:02
czajkowskialoha10:02
duanedesignhello czajkowski10:02
czajkowskiduanedesign: hows you10:02
nigelbHey czajkowski10:08
nigelbhrm, I'm curious10:21
nigelbCan non-ubuntu member have their blog on planet?10:21
nigelboh, my bad10:24
popeynigelb: yes10:24
nigelbpopey: ah, thanks10:24
nigelboh dear, I wonder what happened to asia/oceania board :(10:25
popey?10:25
nigelbno meeting for the past 2 months I think10:25
popeyis there anyone on their list?10:26
czajkowskipopey: how does a non ubuntu member havea  blog on planet.u.c bar say some of the canonical teams and a few other orgs ?10:27
nigelbpopey: about 6 people10:27
nigelbczajkowski: I think that's the people he mean, the canonical teams and orgs10:27
nigelb*meant10:27
* nigelb hugs czajkowski 10:28
czajkowskipretty bad for the board not to meet for 2 months though :S10:29
czajkowskiwell there is an emea board meeting tonight if folks want to come to that10:29
nigelbI think timzone change + real life would be a problem10:29
popeyczajkowski: apply to the cc10:29
nigelberr, DST change rather10:29
czajkowskinigelb: only option really if folks want it that badly.. or wait for usa or hope asia has a meeting soon.10:30
czajkowskipopey: gotcha ,  but didnt think individuals could get one.10:30
nigelbczajkowski: I think they're going to meet10:30
popeyczajkowski: they can, if they apply to the cc10:30
nigelbVantrax has come, so something should come up10:30
czajkowskiah ok. didn't know that. thanks10:31
nigelbFinally! :)10:34
czajkowskithis is like crash tv.10:34
czajkowskiwill they wont they10:34
nigelblol10:35
nigelbwell, they did get started, which is a cause for celebration10:42
nigelbHola ara :)10:42
czajkowskinigelb: it took 10 mins from the time they all were on to finally start...10:43
nigelbczajkowski: I noticed, yes10:43
JanCduanedesign: the untranslated strings for dutch include references to Debian/Ubuntu package names, which might not apply for other distros, is that intentional?14:21
JanCfor example 'python-gtk' would be 'pygtk2' in Fedora...14:21
jcastrowow dholbach14:40
jcastrothe sponsorship queue looks .... \m/14:40
dholbachyes14:41
dholbachtime to move on to operation cleansweep14:41
vishdholbach: hi.. while helping someone fix a bug , i was wondering why we dont mention $ pull-lp-source PACKAGENAME  in : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix14:43
vish is it not advised or .. ?14:43
dholbachvish, I was planning to update the page in due course together with pedro and persia14:44
dholbachcan you update it to make use of pull-lp-source?14:44
dholbach(please mention that it is in ubuntu-dev-tools)14:45
vishsure, but i was wondering if it was ok..14:45
dholbachgracias!14:45
vishdholbach: thanks..14:45
dholbach:)14:45
=== doctormo is now known as DoctorMO
vishdholbach: woah! you've got some serious wikifu! .. that page seems so simple when viewing it, but has so many tricks there! :)15:10
dholbachit's not "my page" :)15:10
vishdholbach: well, you've been maintaining it for a long time.. so its yours ;p15:11
dholbachno15:11
dholbach:)15:11
dholbachdefinitely no15:11
vish:)15:11
* nigelb agrees with vish :p15:13
=== dholbach_ is now known as dholbach
jonohi all15:58
czajkowskijono: ello ello how goes the unpacking15:59
jonohey czajkowski16:00
jonogood thanks!16:00
jonogetting there :)16:00
nigelbheya jono :)16:08
jonohey nigelb :)16:08
nigelbdholbach: when do you do your next show? :)16:09
dholbachthursday16:09
dholbachbut I'll still blog about it :916:10
dholbachI'll very likely talk about http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/getting-set-up.html16:10
nigelbdammit16:13
nigelbI'll miss that one :(16:13
nigelbdholbach: That pages look beautiful16:13
nigelbIs it in bzr yet?16:13
nigelbs/bzr/lp16:14
dholbachyes16:14
nigelb\o/16:14
dholbachlp:~dholbach/+junk/ubuntu-packaging-guide16:14
nigelbRight now, I'm not a big fan of lp thinking that somone's files are junk :p16:15
nigelbThe source makes it look easy16:15
* JFo is often not a fan of LP.16:15
nigelbI assume we'd be theming this to look like light themes somehow?16:15
dholbachI'll leave not liking LP to you guys16:15
nigelbI wonder if I can push in some themeing work16:16
nigelbshould read sphinx documenation a bit16:17
JFodholbach, don't get me wrong. I like LP often enough... but when I hate it, I REAAAAAAAALY hate it ;-)16:17
jcastrodon't hold back JFo16:17
dholbachI didn't :)16:17
JFoheh16:17
dholbachnigelb, we still have to discuss/announce the choice of toolkit16:17
nigelbI wonder if we should put dholbach's and dpm's ustream channels on topic16:18
jcastroprobably!16:18
nigelbdholbach: oh, so that was test work (sort of)?16:18
dholbachthe contents can be reused whatever we decide to do16:18
nigelbAhhhh16:19
nigelbJFo: Its freenode not FreeNode (nathan corrects me every time :p)16:22
duanedesignJanC: hmmmm. good point. I had someone suggest I put the package names in to help users find the, Which made sense. However your point does as well. The app has been ported yo other distros...16:23
JFonigelb, I'd have to care to correct it :)16:23
duanedesignthem*16:23
duanedesignJanC: thank you for bringing it to my attention16:24
nigelbJFo: lol16:24
nigelbI should try a better bed time today than yesterday16:24
nigelb4 am isn't very ideal :p16:24
czajkowskiis it wrong when listening to my country budget and how they are making it possible for me never to go home to dig into the mini bar in my room and eat all of the choclate16:27
JFodepends on who has to pay for the chocolate :)16:28
duanedesignJanC: i have to do some work on the templates this afternoon. 'Command List' is still reffered to as the old term 'Command Dictionary' in a few places. i will address the package names as well.16:28
czajkowskime :s but kinda worth it 3 of the bars are white chocolate16:28
JFoin that case, indulge...16:29
czajkowskinyommy white chocolate16:29
* nigelb now wants chocolate16:30
* JFo too16:31
czajkowskimy bad folks16:32
* JFo blames czajkowski 16:33
JFoeven more now that she apologized16:33
JFo:)16:33
nigelblol16:33
czajkowskiJFo: no pleasing you!16:34
JFo:-D16:34
JFogimme chocolate16:34
nigelbJFo: http://twitter.com/#!/nigelbabu/status/12183229599584256 ;)16:34
JFonigelb, it wasn't my fault16:35
JFoit was all her16:35
* JFo points16:35
jonojcastro, no blog yet?16:40
jonoI was expecting it to be online by now16:40
nigelblol http://blog.serverfault.com/ was on tumblr.  The second post is interesting in light of yesterday ;)16:41
czajkowskiJFo: nigelb http://twitpic.com/3dt0z716:43
nigelbczajkowski: You are *so* evil!16:44
nigelbczajkowski: But that lookes yummy ;)16:45
czajkowski.c16:49
JFo.d16:49
JFo:P16:49
jcastroother than yesterday I love tumblr16:50
* popey wonders if czajkowski was being a very sad one-eyed pirate16:50
popeyor a one-eyed mexican with a wicked moustache16:50
* nigelb notes popey has interesting ascii imagination16:51
jono<jono> jcastro, no blog yet?16:51
jono I was expecting it to be online by now16:51
JFoasciimagination16:51
czajkowskijono: did you get sorted yesterday re logging bugs for loco council ?16:58
jonoczajkowski, I did, thanks17:02
jonojcastro, can you please tell me what is going on with the blog entry?17:02
jonothird time lucky ;-)17:02
nigelblol17:03
czajkowskipeople who continue to add URGENT to all mails in the subject should in fact be shot17:03
czajkowski:s17:03
nigelb+117:03
nigelbIf all mails aer Urgent, then no mail is urgent :/17:03
czajkowskitrying to explain that to someone, however he reminds me of my grandfather so trying to be tactful17:04
czajkowskijono: good stuff, if you need anything else just shout17:04
* AlanBell knows who czajkowski is talking about ;)17:06
jonojcastro, are you here?17:18
jonothanks czajkowski17:18
jcastrojono: yep17:26
jcastrojono: we got one! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/68324117:26
ubot2Launchpad bug 683241 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Recycle bin icon is empty when there are items in the bin (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Low,Triaged]17:26
vishpopey: hi, are you still subscribed to the artwork ML?  if so, there is a question about the LoCo's17:36
popeyvish: which thread?17:37
vishpopey: the "Language barrier for Participation"17:37
popeylooks like it's been answered already17:37
popeythe .mx question?17:37
vishoops.. /me checks mail again :)17:37
vishyea that one..17:38
vishpopey: yea, someone has just answered it 5mins ago.. nvm me :)  the 'unapproved' seems to have a bit mislead them17:40
jonojcastro, cool17:40
jonojcastro, where is the blog?17:40
jcastrojono: here now17:41
* nigelb finds "where is the blog" strikingly similar to "are we there yet?"17:42
dholbachmy friends, I call it a day - have a great rest of your day17:43
jonojcastro, so where is the blog?17:44
nigelbg'nite dholbach :)17:44
dholbachbye nigelb17:44
dholbachjono, which blog are you referring to?17:45
jonodholbach, the bitesize bug blog that jcastro have discussed17:47
dholbachthis one http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/2084859426/getting-started-working-on-unity ?17:47
jcastroI am waiting on like 2 mote things17:48
jonodholbach, nope17:48
dholbachok17:48
dholbachthought I could help :)17:48
jononp :)17:48
jcastro2 more things, I got it I got it!17:48
jcastrono one panic!17:48
dholbachok my friends17:48
dholbachsee you tomorrow17:48
jononight dholbach!17:49
dholbachbye jono17:49
nigelbdoes this channel have open topic?17:49
=== popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://bit.ly/bkSK53 || Things to work on (in order): Blueprints, LoCo Day || JFo's short acting career: http://goo.gl/YVUO moo
popeyyup :)17:49
=== popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://bit.ly/bkSK53 || Things to work on (in order): Blueprints, LoCo Day || JFo's short acting career: http://goo.gl/YVUO
nigelbgreat17:50
=== nigelb changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://bit.ly/bkSK53 || Things to work on (in order): Blueprints, LoCo Day || JFo's short acting career: http://goo.gl/YVUO || dholbach's channel: goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: goo.gl/o2lR5
nigelb\o/17:51
nigelbgah, fail17:51
=== nigelb changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://bit.ly/bkSK53 || Things to work on (in order): Blueprints, LoCo Day || JFo's short acting career: http://goo.gl/YVUO || dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2lR5
nigelbThis should work17:51
nigelbSorry about the topic spam people :)17:52
Pici:O18:20
Picihttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/event-time-zones-in-google-calendar.html18:20
PiciHopefully this will fix the daylight savings issues too.18:21
nigelbOh dear, finally!18:23
Joeb454if I post something on wordpress and change the visibility to "private", would it show on the planet?18:27
nigelbdepends on if it would show up on your rss feed18:28
Joeb454I haven't a clue :P18:30
Joeb454I've just written a blog post, but now hesitating publishing it, because I feel some planet readers would consider it spam18:32
nigelbdon't tag it for planet?18:33
Joeb454the planet picks up all my blog posts, because 99% are actually relevant :P18:35
Joeb454I suppose I should change it again18:36
nigelbJoeb454: heh18:38
pleia2EMEA Board people: is the meeting today at 20:00 (as stated on the wiki) or 21:00 (as stated on fridge and conflicting with CC meeting) ?19:11
jcastrojono: retweet pls19:18
DoctorMOpaultag: of course svg files can support and contain javascript.19:21
DoctorMO<defs>  <script type="text/ecmascript" xlink:href="media/locomap.js"/> </defs>19:23
=== jcastro_ is now known as jcastro
jonojcastro, will do19:52
jonojcastro, weird, I don't see it on Planet Ubuntu yet19:52
jcastrojono: also, intellihide landed in the launcher19:52
jcastroweird, I wonder why not19:53
popeyhttp://castrojo.tumblr.com/rss19:54
popeythats why jcastro / jono19:55
popeytumblr still broken in the RSS department19:55
jcastrough19:55
jcastrobut paultag's seems to work19:56
popeytumblr still sucks donkeys clearly :)19:56
jcastrohah19:59
jcastrolooks like I picked the wrong day to quit amphetamines19:59
pleia2popey: emea board meeting, 20:00 or 21:00?19:59
popeyuhhhm20:01
popeygood question20:01
pleia2wiki says 20:00, fridge says 21:00 (and conflicts with CC)20:01
popeygah20:01
popeynow for emea20:01
pleia2ok, I'll get nhandler to update the fridge for 20:0020:02
pleia2thanks20:02
popeythank you!20:02
popeythought we'd done that last time20:02
jonojcastro, can you fix it so it appears on planet?20:12
jcastroI am trying to figure it out20:13
jonothanks :)20:13
jcastroI mean, RSS is down on my blog, I am trying some yahoo pipe stuff or something20:14
jcastro“This has been a slow and painful recovery, but we’re almost through. We’ll have more info to share as soon as we can post to our blog again.”20:18
jcastrough20:18
jcastropaultag: ping20:30
jonojcastro, tweeted, dented, and Facebooked :-)20:36
jcastrook, I have no idea how to fix this without them fixing the RSS20:36
jcastroother than having someone else reblog it20:36
jcastroI sent the mail version to ayatana-dev btw20:37
jonojcastro, awesome!20:38
jonojcastro, ooh, let's add a webchat page to unity.ubuntu.com20:39
jcastrolike a freenode web thing?20:39
jonojcastro, yeah20:39
jcastrok20:39
jonothen people can get in #ayatana real quick20:39
jcastrohmm, question is where?20:40
jcastrowe don't really have a "Contact Us" page20:40
popeypleia2: I may miss some or all of the cc meeting, i have to go and see my accountant rather urgently tonight after this emea one finishes20:40
jcastroI think we need one, top level.20:40
jcastromind if I make one?20:40
pleia2popey: we don't have anything on the agenda, so it'll probably be short20:40
jcastroor maybe under About?20:41
jcastrojono: http://unity.ubuntu.com/contact-us/20:55
jcastrohow's that for a start?20:55
jcastroI think I need another purble box picture20:55
jonojcastro, cool - but let's embed the chat widget on that page20:56
jcastroon you mean like in the page like inline?20:56
jcastrodo you have an example anywhere?20:56
popeywebchat.freenode.net20:56
jcastroAll I've seen is the webchat link20:56
popeyclick the button top left20:56
popeyit has an option to embed20:57
jcastrogot it, ta popey20:57
popeyhttp://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/join-the-conversation/ like that20:57
popeynp20:57
jcastropopey: what colors did you use?20:58
jcastroI'd like to steal that please.20:59
* popey points jcastro to AlanBell 21:00
popeyone mo...21:00
jcastronod21:00
pleia2popey, czajkowski, think it would be possible to move the EMEA meeting up one hour so it doesn't overflow into the CC meeting like this?21:01
popeyor just stop the emea on time :)21:01
* AlanBell waves to jcastro21:01
pleia2yeah, or that :)21:01
popeyjcastro: <iframe src="http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=ubuntu-uk&uio=OT10cnVlJjEwPXRydWUmMTE9MjE46" width="100%" height="700"></iframe>21:02
popeyjcastro: just change the channel name :)21:02
jcastroright21:02
jcastrois the uio thing the color then I guess?21:02
AlanBellcolour and some other settings like hiding joins and parts21:02
czajkowskiaye21:03
czajkowskipleia2: also cc doesn't always meet....21:03
pleia2czajkowski: we're working on that21:03
czajkowskiso are ye able to meet now21:03
pleia2but I only have a half hour break for it today, I'm losing daylight here :(21:03
czajkowskiif so can pull meeting21:03
AlanBelljcastro: if you go through the webchat add to your website thingie it ends up with a uio link21:03
jcastroyeah I just sucked at colors21:04
jcastroand figure I would use exactly what you guys use21:04
jcastrosince it looks pretty already21:04
jcastrohttp://unity.ubuntu.com/contact-us/21:04
jcastrook what do you all think?21:04
czajkowskipleia2: ?21:04
jcastrojono: I'd like to toss in a link to the FAQ the team has been answering on askubuntu if that's ok21:05
AlanBellwhich was a result of me moving the slider about and failing to achive the colour I wanted!21:05
pleia2czajkowski: I am on my lunch break 21:00 - 21:30 for the CC meeting21:05
czajkowskinods21:05
jcastroAlanBell: yeah but now if someone else is different from us we can band under the banner of consistency!21:05
pleia2it'll be a quick meeting, probably just a couple announcements but it would be better if we could start on time21:05
czajkowskiaye21:06
czajkowskiso odd21:06
AlanBelljcastro: sounds good to me!21:06
czajkowskiasia started 35 mins late21:06
czajkowskiwe start on time but are a lot busier21:06
pleia2and we'd like to at least have "hi, we showed up, anyone have anything to talk to us about?" meetings moving forward, so having EMEA over-lap is a problem21:06
czajkowskiand never get through the stuff in 1 hr21:06
jonojcastro, sure21:06
pleia2and Mark is not keen on the idea of moving the CC meetings, since they've been static for so long21:06
czajkowskipleia2: right..  earlier is just a lot earlier for getting home from work for me and others though21:07
Pendulumczajkowski: maybe switch day of the week?21:07
macoor after an hour say "ok the remainder: come back next time"21:08
czajkowskii guess we can try but earlier is 7pm i and others don'21:08
czajkowskit get home till nearly 8 it's a rush as it is already.21:08
pleia2czajkowski: it was just a suggestion :) do whatever you need to do, but the CC meeting conflict is a problem21:08
czajkowskipleia2: i agree. it's just a tad unfortunate as the cc is the one meeting which doesnt always happen, and the emea does.21:09
pleia2as I said, that's something we're working to change21:09
pleia2and "you don't always have meetings" is not a very good reason for another team to take the meeting spot anyway21:09
czajkowskitrue21:09
czajkowskibut has been the case for the last few months :(21:10
pleia2I know21:10
czajkowskipleia2: over now anyway21:11
jcastrowhere in wp do I add something to the top bar?21:12
jcastrojono: rock and roll! http://unity.ubuntu.com/contact-us/21:18
jonojcastro, sweet!21:19
jcastroI found the menu adding thing btw21:19
jcastroit was nonobvious to me but I'm all set now21:19
AlanBelljcastro: it was very non-obvious to me too!21:22
jcastrohigh 521:22
AlanBellsub menus end up in the grey bar below the top21:23
jcastrooh, good to know21:28
jonojcastro, so what are you going to do about fixing the planet feed21:39
jonothat is pretty critical to the bitesize bug campaign21:39
jcastrothere's not much I can do here, tumblr itself has broken rss feeds, want to do a reblog perhaps?21:39
jonojcastro, maybe set up another blog that you can post a mirror post to21:44
jonojcastro, or...21:44
jcastrohmm, ok21:44
jonowhat might make better sense21:44
jonois for me to post it on my blog if you send me the text21:44
jonothen we don't have to have a mirror blog21:44
jcastroyeah I have the raw html21:44
jcastroand then link back21:44
jcastrosure, one moment21:44
jonojcastro, cool, just mail it to me21:45
jcastrojono: you've got mail!21:46
jcastroactually this will work out so when they do fix it it'll post it again, heh21:46
jcastro>_>21:46
jcastro<_<21:46
jonocool :-)21:46
jonojcastro, done21:48
jono:-)21:48
jcastroI got a ryanpaul retweet as well21:49
jonocool21:49
jcastroI was hoping for a popey retweet21:50
jcastro<sad eyes>21:50
czajkowskijcastro: i'll rt popey isn't online21:55
jcastro<321:57
Technovikingjcastro: i retweeted both my followers, my grandma and weiner dog21:58
jcastroyeah!21:58
jonoTechnoviking, lol22:09
* jono downloads latest natty iso to install a new keyring22:09
jcastroTechnoviking: good to see you have 2 more followers that severed fifth22:09
jcastrozing!22:09
jcastroand with that22:09
jcastro<--- EOD22:09
paultagjcastro: yo dude22:10
paultagjcastro: just got your ping22:10
jcastrough, always late22:10
jcastrohey just wondering if you knew anything about RSS being restored on the tumblers22:10
paultagjcastro: mine's still down. I have no idea, but their DB took a huge hit22:10
paultagjcastro: so it might be a day or two22:10
paultagthey took down their master db with an update22:11
paultag( whoops )22:11
jonolater jcastro :-)22:11
jcastropaultag: so ... you have no answers.22:11
paultagjcastro: no answers22:11
jcastropaultag: ok you owe me one bitesize bug fix22:12
jcastromaybe a papercut if I feel bad for you22:12
paultagI mean, I am in Ohio22:12
paultagjcastro: dude that would make a great way to make up for sucking22:13
paultagjcastro: force people into bug fixing22:13
jcastroI have you on my list now22:13
paultagjcastro: :)22:13
paultagjcastro: get outa here, you're EOD. I'll let you know if I get back online22:14
jcastrono worries I am going for food anyway22:14
jcastrogo Buckeyes!22:14
paultaggo bucks!22:14
popey21:50:36 < jcastro> I was hoping for a popey retweet22:19
popeymy tweets dont come cheap22:19
Technovikingpopey: that what she said22:23
popeyyou bet sailor!22:23
czajkowskiirish bars are really the worst23:02
nisshhczajkowski, i thought the irish were the best drinkers?23:04
nisshhso that would mean they have some decent bars?23:05
czajkowskijcastro: is jono gone for the day23:09
maconisshh: nah, means they stop caring how bad the rest of the bar is :)23:51
pleia2lol23:51
nisshhmaco, haha23:53
nhandlerpleia2: Looks like someone beat me to fixing the Fridge23:53
pleia2nhandler: oh good23:53
pleia2thanks anyway :)23:53
nhandlerpleia2: No problem23:55
czajkowskijono_: you free23:59

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