| rww | Pici: You can't prove anything! | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| tonyyarusso | My little $40 keylogger says otherwise. | 00:01 |
| IdleOne | Really bugs me when people talk bad about Quebec :/ | 00:01 |
| rww | Then tell them to stop, and we'll kick them out when they don't. | 00:01 |
| Pici | It bugs me when people forget that -ot is an international channel where you aren't just hanging out with a few local people. | 00:02 |
| IdleOne | He did have a point about Qcers mistreating the Oners | 00:02 |
| IdleOne | but them ONers deserve it lol | 00:02 |
| Myrtti | watching #freenode gives me a feeling that #ubuntu isn't such a hellhole after all | 00:24 |
| Myrtti | oh lord, yet another respin of sorts | 00:28 |
| Myrtti | http://pinguy-os.sourceforge.net/ | 00:29 |
| Myrtti | I wonder in how many ways is that one fumbled together | 00:30 |
| ubottu | xangua called the ops in #ubuntu (MaJJiXShaDOW) | 01:28 |
| * Pici lurks | 01:31 | |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from rudyred) | 01:58 |
| ubottu | xangua called the ops in #ubuntu (rudyred) | 01:58 |
| IdleOne | chanserv script has a little bug :/ | 02:00 |
| tsimpson | what's the bug? | 02:01 |
| IdleOne | when setting a timed mute (+q) if the user parts the channel or the mute is manually removed before the time expires the script will +o and stay there | 02:02 |
| rww | I guess we'll find out how autobleh deals with it in *checks watch* 5 minutes. | 02:03 |
| IdleOne | that is the reason for my "magic" +o earlier today | 02:03 |
| Pici | When you got opped in #freenode? Neat! | 02:05 |
| IdleOne | heh, yeah. chanserv.py ops in #freenode even if you are not on the access list | 02:05 |
| IdleOne | Did I get opped in #freenode again today? | 02:06 |
| Pici | Dunno. All the days blend together for me. | 02:06 |
| IdleOne | I hear you | 02:07 |
| Pici | looke like it worked. | 02:08 |
| rww | Answer: it redundantly removes the +q | 02:08 |
| IdleOne | but it still removed it | 02:08 |
| rww | another point for irssi | 02:09 |
| IdleOne | irssi also has a script that tells you to check your cup of coffee and refill it | 02:11 |
| ubottu | IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () | 04:21 |
| IdleOne | ban forward | 04:21 |
| IdleOne | he asked for it | 04:21 |
| rww | that's not a forward, hun ;P | 04:22 |
| IdleOne | yeah I know sugar | 04:22 |
| IdleOne | thought about it and figured he can find his own way | 04:22 |
| rww | i agree | 04:23 |
| rww | I for one enjoy that Comcast's IP leases are mostly static :) | 04:24 |
| IdleOne | yup and rebooting your modem/router doesn't always get you a new ip | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | wait, that's what you said | 04:25 |
| rww | usually doesn't, in fact. mine changes once or twice a year. | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | I liked comcast for that when I had it | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | Did I miss the memo informing me about troll night? | 04:40 |
| rww | I ate yours. trolololol | 04:41 |
| IdleOne | hahahaha hohohohoho hihiihihihi | 04:41 |
| rww | olaaaaaaa! | 04:41 |
| * IdleOne stabs rww with a nerf sword | 04:41 | |
| elky | checked the moon phase? | 04:42 |
| Flannel | the moon is in phase, yes. | 04:42 |
| rww | two weeks until next full moon | 04:43 |
| Flannel | rww: right in phase with where it should be! | 04:43 |
| rww | IdleOne: are you fazed by the trolls? | 04:43 |
| elky | hrm, false alarm then | 04:43 |
| IdleOne | fazed, hmm, how do you mean? | 04:43 |
| elky | oh awesome, that means full moon gets to be... right on last-minute-christmas-shopping | 04:44 |
| * IdleOne makes pastries | 04:45 | |
| IdleOne | cinnabun anyone? | 04:45 |
| rww | what you do | 04:45 |
| rww | oh. failscript. | 04:45 |
| IdleOne | yeah | 04:45 |
| rww | !-grub2 | 05:01 |
| ubottu | grub2 is <alias> grub - added by gnomefreak on 2009-07-21 11:51:42 - last edited by jussi on 2010-11-28 15:34:07 | 05:01 |
| rww | jussi: You are silly, make !grub2 not talk about grub1. | 05:01 |
| IdleOne | why? | 05:02 |
| IdleOne | some people still using grub legacy | 05:02 |
| rww | because it's rather confusing for 2/3 of the sentences in a factoid to be unrelated to the actual topic? | 05:02 |
| rww | Yes, which is why we had !grub and !grub2 separate. | 05:02 |
| IdleOne | Well, make a smart factoid that isn't confuzzling | 05:03 |
| IdleOne | include both so we have only 1 factoid :) | 05:03 |
| rww | I submit that making an already-confusing topic even more confusing by arbitrarily squishing together the instructions for two very different pieces of software is silly. | 05:04 |
| IdleOne | dude, fix it | 05:05 |
| rww | jussi: Go look in the database export and figure out what !grub and !grub2 said before they were changed, I am le tired. | 05:05 |
| rww | or, I could check the logs! | 05:07 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, rww said: !no, grub2 is <reply> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 05:08 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, rww said: !no, grub is <reply> grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. | 05:08 |
| * rww reads log, finds arguments unconvincing, shrugs since these edits will go the same place that all the other ones do anyway | 05:10 | |
| Flannel | rww: Why call one Karmic (9.10) and the other Ubuntu 9.10? | 05:11 |
| rww | Flannel: because I copypasted what they used to say. | 05:12 |
| Flannel | What about a linkback from grub2 to grub? | 05:14 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, rww said: !grub is <reply> GRUB is the default boot manager in Ubuntu. For new installations of Ubuntu 9.10 and above, GRUB2 is default; for information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 . For older versions, GRUB is default; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto . | 05:17 |
| rww | ^ if y'all disagree with me about smushing them together being silly. | 05:17 |
| IdleOne | whatever works best. | 05:18 |
| rww | although I guess that last GRUB should be GRUB1 to avoid confusion. | 05:18 |
| Flannel | rww: No one calls it "grub1" | 05:18 |
| rww | GRUB Legacy | 05:19 |
| IdleOne | +1 | 05:19 |
| * Jordan_U notes irony | 05:19 | |
| rww | It gets even more fun when you note that the current stable release of GRUB2 is version 1.98. Lolwat. | 05:20 |
| Flannel | well, grub1 was 0.98 | 05:20 |
| Flannel | Also, about half the alises to grub,should now point to grub2 | 05:20 |
| Flannel | !grub2 | 05:20 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 05:20 |
| Flannel | !grub | 05:20 |
| ubottu | grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. | 05:20 |
| Flannel | Actually, I sort of think most of the aliases (all?) pointing to grub should point to grub2 | 05:21 |
| Flannel | Would it be more prudent to deprecate "grub1", replace it with grub2 stuff, and give it it's own Legacy factoid? | 05:22 |
| Flannel | How's everyone feel about that | 05:22 |
| rww | or make !grub1, !grub2, and !grub as a disambiguation factoid? | 05:23 |
| Flannel | No, !grub is grub2 (9.10 EOL is April, etc), then grub1 (and grub legacy, or whatnot) talks about grub1 | 05:23 |
| Jordan_U | Flannel: 8.04 LTS as well. | 05:23 |
| Flannel | Most people now (and moreso in the future) won't know about Grub2 vs Grub1, just that they're using GRUB | 05:24 |
| Flannel | Jordan_U: Well, and 6.06 | 05:24 |
| Flannel | 8.04 EOL is April for Desktop too | 05:24 |
| Flannel | but we're carrying GRUB(1) info for 6.06, 8.04, and 9.10 (for a few more months) | 05:24 |
| Flannel | Everyone else is using v2, and the majority of those folks don't even know they're using v2 until they're told about it with those factoids | 05:25 |
| Jordan_U | I wonder when grub legacy users will be automatically migrated to grub2. I don't expect it to be any time soon. | 05:27 |
| rww | oh hey, 6.06 finally dies in June. thank goodness | 05:27 |
| Flannel | rww: hater :( | 05:28 |
| Flannel | Jordan_U: certainly not, no. | 05:28 |
| rww | Flannel: works for me, though I imagine the transition for #ubuntu helper people will be a little confusing | 05:28 |
| Flannel | Actually, we should weave that into the factoid(s)too if we can | 05:28 |
| Flannel | that if you installed/upgraded, you might not have 2 | 05:29 |
| rww | hrm. !grub is <reply> GRUB is the default boot manager for Ubuntu. Ubuntu 9.10 and newer use GRUB2 by default; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 . For older versions and upgrades, /msg ubottu !grub1 | 05:30 |
| rww | and !grub1 is <reply> Versions of Ubuntu before 9.10 and upgrades from those versions use GRUB Legacy by default. For information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto . For newer versions, /msg ubottu !grub | 05:32 |
| rww | clean up punctuation to suit :) | 05:32 |
| Flannel | rww: You also have to carry the recover grub info, which isn't on the Grub2 page (or the GrubHowto page) | 05:33 |
| rww | Flannel: Looks like it is to me... | 05:34 |
| Flannel | Where? | 05:34 |
| rww | "Reinstalling GRUB 2" and "Backup, Repairing and Reinstalling GRUB" headers | 05:35 |
| Flannel | Eh. If we're going to count on that, we're going to have to re-arrange that page to make that more visible | 05:36 |
| Jordan_U | I need to figure out what happened to the blueprint I started for simplifying recovering grub after installing windows. | 05:36 |
| sresu | Hello | 07:14 |
| rww | hi | 07:14 |
| sresu | rww: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services - What does it mean? | 07:14 |
| rww | sresu: You need to make a nickserv account (if you haven't already) and log in to it to join that channel | 07:15 |
| rww | !register | 07:15 |
| ubottu | Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode | 07:15 |
| rww | see the link for more info | 07:15 |
| sresu | Its not Ubuntu channels particularly | 07:15 |
| sresu | Anyway, thanks | 07:15 |
| jussi | !clone | 09:29 |
| ubottu | To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate | 09:29 |
| jussi | See, that doesnt work for me - someone broke something? | 09:31 |
| jussi | ~$ aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages | 09:31 |
| jussi | E: Regex compilation error: Invalid preceding regular expression | 09:31 |
| jussi | ok, perhaps we need to add sudo to that... | 09:38 |
| Myrtti | was lmgtfy links spankworthy? | 09:42 |
| Myrtti | nvm, can't be bothered right now | 09:43 |
| Myrtti | brilliant feller that 'peer' | 10:23 |
| Myrtti | *sigh* | 11:09 |
| elky | jussi, is ircc a membership board now? can you see to -meeting? | 11:12 |
| Pici | hrm. | 16:47 |
| Pici | Has anyone else noticed that ActionParsnip has been telling more and more users to google their answers? and also getting sidetracked? | 16:56 |
| Pici | ugh. | 16:58 |
| IdleOne | maco: you around? | 17:45 |
| IdleOne | I need some help with a -ru user, google is failing me | 17:46 |
| Tm_T | ? | 17:47 |
| IdleOne | genrik in #u but I think I might get him where he needs to be | 17:48 |
| IdleOne | got it :) | 17:50 |
| Myrtti | I suspect it's more stubborness than lack of language skills | 17:50 |
| IdleOne | Myrtti: possibly. | 17:50 |
| IdleOne | but he is in -ru now | 17:51 |
| Myrtti | "We have a comedian in our midst" | 18:39 |
| IdleOne | ? | 18:40 |
| Myrtti | just watching #ubuntu and quoting "Stripes" | 18:42 |
| Myrtti | !ipod | 19:56 |
| ubottu | For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod | 19:56 |
| * Myrtti facepalms | 20:35 | |
| Pici | hm? | 20:40 |
| IdleOne | I think what happened is the Myrtti remembered what she thought she had forgotten yesterday and realised that it was unimportant causing her head to fall towards her hand. Just a theory :) | 20:43 |
| Myrtti | no I stayed awake until 3.30 wondering | 20:50 |
| Myrtti | I was just commenting the mailing list | 20:51 |
| elky | she's remembering why she took hiatus | 20:51 |
| Myrtti | actually I think I'm having a minor panic attack but that's ok, been through these before... | 21:04 |
| * Pici sends Myrtti hugs | 21:09 | |
| * knome intercepts the transmission and steals the hugs | 21:11 | |
| * charlie-tca thinks "poor Myrtti" and sends another hug | 21:19 | |
| topyli | HI HAY SIR | 21:19 |
| * IdleOne sends hugs to Myrtti | 21:22 | |
| IdleOne | panic attacks suck | 21:22 |
| Myrtti | would be wicked if this wouldn't last for days, but oh well | 21:23 |
| Myrtti | being a bit short of breath all the time gets a bit old after a while | 21:23 |
| Myrtti | !iso | 21:23 |
| ubottu | To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. | 21:23 |
| * Myrtti bites her knuckles | 21:27 | |
| Myrtti | "Sorry, I left my telepathic mindreading hat at the office when I left work" | 21:28 |
| charlie-tca | apparently, me too | 21:35 |
| Myrtti | I didn't know Win98 came on a DVD... | 21:35 |
| Myrtti | *cough* | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | Myrtti: you taught me patience... :-) | 21:37 |
| Myrtti | people who know me in IRL and on IRC are suprised how wellcomposed I'm in IRC | 21:38 |
| Myrtti | I swear like a pirate and lose my patience and temper very quickly IRL | 21:39 |
| charlie-tca | I suppose telling him where to really go is bad, too, huh? | 21:39 |
| Myrtti | nah | 21:39 |
| charlie-tca | I mean, I did tell him out loud, but I don't think I can type it... ;-) | 21:40 |
| Myrtti | it's the best thing to tell him really | 21:40 |
| Myrtti | offers a safe way to retreat | 21:40 |
| Myrtti | judging from the silence he's taken it | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, that wasn't the same place | 21:40 |
| popey | YAAAAARRRRRR! | 22:25 |
| * popey refrains from swaring like Myrtti | 22:25 | |
| Myrtti | yeah, it hurts your blood pressure | 22:25 |
| Myrtti | don't do it kids | 22:25 |
| Myrtti | nitenite everyone, I'll go to bed to see how many hours I get to roll before passing out | 22:54 |
| IdleOne | night | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | good night | 23:03 |
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