[00:04] hackeron_: no [00:05] http://paste.debian.net/101692/ some notes I wrote on the subject === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [01:00] I know there's hardly anyone around, but an opinion please: Am I better with IBM's SAS raid hardware onboard a new x 3100 M3 series (entry level) or linux raid ? Its just a simple mirror setup, and the controller seems to have been detected ok. [01:00] I've installed linux software raid so far, but I've no idea how to compare them anyway. [01:01] do you see both disks on your controller? [01:01] in linux [01:03] advante of linux raid is that you can unplug your disks and plug it in anywhere [01:03] advantage [01:09] ivoks: and by "linux raid" you mean "software raid"? [01:10] fluvvell: hardware raid is just that -- the hardware does it, so the OS is ignorant of the fact there's more than one disc [01:20] Question here: I once has U-server installed on an older small PII box (300Mhz, 512Mb RAM). It ran fine. Great little box I would just SSH into. It is a little loud so only ran when needed. When I shutdown the server (done via 'sudo shutdown -h now' when SSH'ed in), it shuts down but it doesn't full turn the computer off. I have to manually hold the power button to shut it off completely.... [01:20] ...Thing is, I went ahead and installed Debian Testing and it shuts down completely. I want to go back to U-server (10.10) but would rather it just shutdown completely. As a side note, I have never run latest U-server on this. Any thoughts? Thanks. [01:21] I would think if Debian could shut this down completely, Ubuntu should too. [01:24] FunkyBob, I guess the OS knows via the SAS driver modules, but my colloquial question "better off" was meaning which will perform better, or give the biggest all around benefit. [01:25] FunkyBob, last time I did a comparison, it was with old paradise raid controllers, and the linux community found software raid to perform better [01:26] ivoks, yes I see both disks on the controller, and yes to the software raid. [01:29] fluvvell: hardware raid is generally much faster [01:29] "hardware assisted" raid, otoh... not always so good [01:36] real hardware raid (usually) offers better performance [01:37] linux software raid offers better compatibility and more options [01:37] which is better depends on your needs and preferences [01:37] fake raid is useless [01:37] only performs as good as software raid with the feature limitations of hardware raid [01:40] hansin, use `sudo poweroff` [01:40] if that still doesn't work, it's probably an APM/ACPI driver problem [01:46] qman__: Thanks. I just wrote all that down so I can try once I install. I think I get the driver thing as well, as in if it can't communicate the the HW to power off, the OS will shut down, but the HW will still be on. I'll test it all out. [01:51] Okay, one more question: I know U-Server can be updated to new releases (say 10.4 -> 10.10 -> 11.4) with 'do-release-upgrade' found in 'update-manager-core'. What I am wondering is, are there sometimes things that just can't update and get you to where you would be with a fresh install? [01:51] I get that things like the files system (ext3 vs. ext4) are usually set, and often GRUB will stay at GRUB vs. GRUB2. [01:52] (I don't care about these since I will install as ext4 and GRUB2). But are there other things? Like the transition from 'sysvinit' to 'upstart [01:53] ', where there any issues there? Anything else that might miss out on an upgrade between releases? Thanks. [01:58] not really [01:58] the way it works is, certain packages won't be changed by default [01:58] if you want to, you can still switch to the new ones [01:58] like grub and grub2 [01:59] another one is the switch from sysklogd to rsyslog(?) [01:59] if you upgrade it won't change over automatically [01:59] qman__: Thanks again. I'm going to move back to U-Server and give it another go. I just wanted to clarify the upgrade part. Knowing what you just said, I can more carefully inspect the release notes for new releases. [02:00] ubuntu has actually been using upstart since 6.10 [02:00] just in sysvinit compatibility mode [02:00] the major change recently was a bunch of services to upstart scripts [02:01] they're actually trying to phase out sysvinit now [02:01] qman__, hardware profile says I have SAS1064ET PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS - driver mptsas. I'm not sure where I'll have compatibility issues, if its saying the dirver is already loaded... [02:02] fluvvell, what I mean by compatibility is, with software RAID, you can hook your array up to any computer running any recent linux kernel and access it [02:02] whereas if your hardware controller fails, you must find another compatible one to access it [02:02] qman__: Okay, thanks. One example where there is an issue with Debian but not U-Server is using the Drizzle (MySQL derivative) PPA. It uses an Upstart script, yet Debian seems still stuck on Sysvinit. Anyway, I [02:02] I'm going to switch back. [02:02] Thanks.\ [02:02] no problem [02:03] qman__ ; yes, I've needed to do that in the past, though had failure for unrelated reasons. But with mirrored raid, all the data is on both disks [02:03] not disk failure, controller failure [02:03] with hardware raid, reading the data off the disks is impossible without a compatible controller [02:03] qman__, even with mirror array? [02:03] yes [02:04] well, theoretically possible with a mirror [02:04] in practice though you'd have to test [02:04] every manufacturer does it a little differently [02:04] they're standard SATA drives [02:04] that's not what matters [02:04] the controller still has to store RAID information on the disks [02:05] and how and where it creates the volumes [02:05] with software raid this is standard and open [02:05] but with hardware raid it isn't [02:06] a mirror should be recoverable with some analysis, even if you can't find a compatible controller, but it may not be easy [02:06] yes, well part of my trepidation over doing the hardware raid setup was not knowing. Its all in the bios but unfamiliar to me [02:06] is it real hardware raid? or fake raid? [02:06] fake raid is another story [02:06] It does seem a pity though to have a nice piece of hardware sitting there unused [02:07] since it's really just software raid, dmraid can access it even without a compatible controller [02:07] I like real hardware raid with bbc, makes writes really good [02:07] the IBM has four sata quick load trays. They all go back to the PCI card [02:07] bbc? [02:07] battery backed cache [02:07] yeah, that's some serious hardware [02:07] where you really see the performance gains [02:08] OK I'm talking sub $1K, for server and hard disks! [02:08] you can spend <1k on a server? without disks or raid? :) [02:08] my disks cost nearly that much [02:08] :-) WITH both [02:08] fluvvell, ya, software raid is your best bet [02:08] but yeah [02:09] in that price range, the hardware is unlikely to have significant performance gains [02:09] ya, my disks are going start at 3k, I'm hoping for 4k though [02:09] reliable array of inexpensive disks [02:09] to the point where the features of software raid are worth the difference [02:09] mediocer array of expensive disks :) [02:09] there's only 5 staff in the building [02:09] doesn't matter [02:10] have 7 staff [02:10] my file server is consumer grade stuff [02:10] but we have 96 300gig sas dual channel 6g drives [02:10] and it still cost more than $1k [02:11] but we are running around 80 vm's loaded mainly with mssql :( [02:11] unfortunately it's failing on me [02:11] the motherboard is shot, keeps crashing [02:11] ok just a little over $1K [02:11] motherboards seem to be one of the biggest failing points these days [02:11] it used to be psu, but now I think motherboard is worse [02:11] well, it was built on a budget [02:11] socket 939 foxconn [02:12] by the time I put two WD Blue 1Tb 7200 drives in [02:12] when I get the money to replace it, it'll be an AM3 gigabyte [02:12] I've never had one of the IBM mbs fail. All others I've had some failures. === asac_ is now known as asac [02:13] Long term, I've had heaps of gigabyte mbs fail, caps leak, weird chipset failures. [02:13] heh, I just replace the caps [02:13] they use japanese caps now [02:14] * fluvvell lacks a good extracting temp controlled solder sucker [02:14] so far, so good anyway [02:14] hey folks [02:15] after an upgrade, my box doesn't have a syslog file anymore... any idea how I can recreate it? [02:15] Patrickdk, where I have replaced caps (on a graphics card) it didn't fix the failure so I gave up. Not worth it on a $60 card :( [02:16] oh? [02:16] I have fixed 13 motherboards so far that way [02:16] I actually had a VRM fry on a TV tuner, a friend replaced it and it's good as new [02:16] I guess the caps leak might have led to failures elsewhere. [02:16] but for graphics cards I probably wouldn't bother [02:16] most of the motherboard had >13 dead caps [02:17] SpaceBass, which file are you referring to? [02:17] /var/log/syslog.log [02:17] * fluvvell better go [02:17] that's pretty strange, do you still have the other log files, messages, dmesg, kern, auth? [02:18] yep [02:18] and it's logging new data to them? [02:19] just checked, yes [02:19] I haven't run into that problem, I've upgraded hardy servers directly and a jaunty server -> karmic -> lucid [02:20] and on my systems it's /var/log/syslog, no .log at the end [02:20] likewise, never seen it myself [02:20] is it running sysklogd or rsyslogd? [02:20] qman__, your right, it should be /var/log/syslog [02:20] syslog 616 1.7 0.0 36472 1256 ? Sl Oct24 1113:04 rsyslogd -c4 [02:22] well, rsyslog uses /etc/rsyslog.conf and /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf [02:23] thanks, I'll check them [02:23] my jaunty upgrade has both of them on it for some reason, rsyslogd is running but sysklogd still has cron files and init scripts [02:25] qman__, can you check owner and perms on your syslog file? [02:25] -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 1007K 2010-12-06 21:25 /var/log/syslog [02:26] thanks [02:26] going to try the ole sudo touch /var/log/syslog [02:40] Hello everyone, can someone let me know if I have everything correct to ssh to my ssh server? [02:41] I installed sshd on my server and forwarded my selected ports from my router to my statically addressed server === hansin__ is now known as hansin [06:03] hello [06:04] I was wondering how do I figure out how much of a server I need as a virtual server host? for my other servers [06:06] lwizardl: I really don't know, but I am sure you need to determine first how many guests you want to run, what resources each of there need, and then what overhead exists on the host server. My guess is that you can "overprovision" the guests based on some formula, but don't know what the rule of thumb is. [06:10] hmm ok [06:22] what was the latest version having python2.5 as default python? [06:41] rmadison will tell you [06:57] New bug: #686343 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.6.5-3 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686343 [07:18] twb, found it, it was karmic, in lucid they dropped p2.5 [07:49] Why is /etc/init/ssh.conf "stop on runlevel S" [07:49] Surely it should be "stop on runlevel [06]" [07:51] Yep === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [08:25] fluvvell: so if you see both disks, then it's not hardware controller [08:30] ivoks, you missed the part where I said I never set up the hardware controller during the installation. [08:31] ivoks: there are some amazingly shit controllers that IBM ship which present as separate disks to normal linux kernels [08:31] IIRC /dev/ccmra01 or something like that [08:32] fluvvell: could be; i was half sleeping at 2AM [08:33] twb: whenever someone says 'hardware on board controller', i just look on the other side [09:06] hey [09:07] anyone know of a place where I can find a list of what all games have a dedicate linux server option for hosting your own lan servers [09:11] update-motd provides nothing but an empty directory [09:11] What *invoked* update-motd? [09:12] pam_motd.so [09:12] Silly me for thinking it was generated DAILY [09:41] Hi all, I just got a new vps with ubuntu, but it doesnt seem to have tab complete enabled, could someone direct me how to turn tab complete on? [09:41] jussi: . /etc/bash_completion [09:41] (Note the leading dot.) [09:42] well I guess this is why its borked... [09:42] jussi@vps323:~$ . /etc/bash_completion [09:42] -bash: /etc/bash_completion: No such file or directory [09:42] Then you probably need to install it [09:42] That or you are not actually looking at ubuntu [09:44] jussi@vps323:~$ lsb_release -a [09:44] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [09:44] Description: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS [09:45] and so, you were right, it wasnt installed. thanks" [09:46] right, so one more quick thing, Im migrating servers now, how do I pull mysql DB's out and plug them into the new server? [09:47] jussi: Google for "Wordpress database backup restore" [09:47] tonyyarusso: ok :D (its not for wordpress, but still I guess its the same) [09:47] first two links [09:47] why don't you just copy the datafiles, jussi? [09:47] jussi: It's just that the WordPress people have a pretty good no-nonsense writeup on the matter. [09:47] al: because I have no idea I can! [09:47] well, you can [09:48] where are they likely to be located? [09:48] /var/lib/mysql? [09:48] maybe /var/db [09:48] ooh! [09:51] hrrr... someone remind me of the tar command that actually makes a tar.gz file? my combinations fail... [09:52] tar cvzf your.tar.gz stuff/ to/ back/ up/ [09:52] tar cz...bah [09:52] or, well, czf will do ;) [09:52] create, zip, file [09:53] but for server migrations i find rsync -az --delete much more convenient [09:54] (resp. without the --delete ;) [09:58] Im still having issues with it downloading the index.php not loading it - any ideas? [10:00] al: the z is actually for gzip [10:00] jussi: s/it/something useful/ [10:01] g [10:01] twb, yea, so? [10:01] You said zip, is all [10:01] twb, which is still correct [10:01] zip and gzip both use the Lempel-Ziv algorithm, but they are not interachangable. [10:02] i didn't mean to imply that [10:02] Okey dokey. === ihCiFriS is now known as SirFiChi [10:42] bug 588993 [10:42] Launchpad bug 588993 in linux "mcelog does not work due to lack of kernel support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588993 [10:49] * SpamapS curses the baby for waking him up at 2am [10:51] :) [11:00] hi guys where do i can edit the iptables rules on my ubuntu server..? any idea where is it localted like on centos its localted on---> .etc/sysconfig/iptables <-------------for ou ubuntu server where is it...? [11:02] any idea guys..? [11:04] ruben23: How did you configure your firewall untill now? [11:05] i just put it on my /etc/rc.local/ teh ruesl i set like masquerade since this box is set to be router. [11:06] SpamapS: that's what I'd call a disproportionate response [11:06] Jeeves_:..? [11:16] ruben23: So, just keep editing that? [11:16] Or use ufw [11:17] iptables rules should be loaded during rcS, not rc.local. [11:17] Otherwise, you are in "allow all" mode for the entire init process. [11:18] Note that (usually) iptables rules can be loaded before any network devices exist. [11:19] Jeeves_: how to used ufw...? on ubuntu-server...? [11:19] ruben23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW [11:20] Blergh [11:20] diff -u <(w3m -dump https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/kerberos-ldap.html) <(w3m -dump https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/kerberos-ldap.html) [11:20] ...zero changes to that section in six months. [11:22] Jeeves_: but there is no config file that i can put rules and edit directly on ufw..? [11:22] ruben23: See /etc/ufw [11:32] ruben23: if you are capable of writing complex netfilter rules, you probably don't want ufw [11:33] http://paste.debian.net/101737/ is such a firewall I set up, using the iptables-persistent package. [11:33] Oops, the first file is http://paste.debian.net/101738/ [11:34] twb: this is the script of the iptables..? - it just im more compatible like editing the iptables config file itself- adding rules on it. [11:35] ruben23: I don't understand the question. [11:38] twb: sorry , i sued to do firewall with centos and i just edit the file iptables and add rules in there and apply whihc is more simple- its juts im not familiar how is it with debian. [11:38] or ubuntu server.. [12:05] yo [12:06] I just made "apt-get upgrade" on 2.6.32 server [12:06] upgrade had grub-pc in it, but rootfs is on raid1 .. [12:07] should I worry that it won't boot? === pthsWork_ is now known as pthswork === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [13:09] zumu nope [13:35] patdk-wk: but it asked where to install boot loader [13:36] yep, install it to the root of the raid [13:36] then it will get written to both drives, and your good [13:36] the choice was to install to sda or sdb.. [13:37] I killed that post-install trigger [13:37] guess your using softraid, or it would be so complicated [13:38] mine has 3 options /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/mapper/...... [13:45] ruben23: there is a file you can edit directly with ufw. they are in /etc/ufw/*.rules. you probably want /etc/ufw/before.rules. see 'man ufw' and 'man ufw-framework' for details [13:46] ruben23: but you are right, there is not one firewall system for Debian. ufw is on all Ubuntu installations, but it is opt in and you still have the choice of everything that is in Debian (or writing your own) [13:48] how can I handle https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=606993 on ubuntu-server machine ? [13:51] New bug: #676508 in samba (main) "Lucid won't share printers via samba" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676508 [14:15] hi, i've got a stuck mysqld, anyone know how to fix this? I can't reboot [14:39] since i am not familiar with how ubuntu and esp lts versions deal with package updates... [14:40] how is it decided if a pkg is updated or not? [14:49] aliverius: you want to read about the SRU (stable release update process) on wiki.ubuntu.com [14:49] aliverius: besides SRU there are also security updates [14:51] ok [14:57] so it seems that if an application was accepted in the repos when it was at an early stage of its development, [14:58] and now there is a release with more features that actually makes it more useful. then i will have to wait for another ubuntu release... [15:00] except,of course, if i build a package myself or use a package from another ubuntu release [15:01] aliverius: whats your question? [15:02] [16:38:58] how is it decided if a pkg is updated or not? [15:03] i see quassel-core irc client is stuck at 0.6.1 [15:03] 0.7.1 has important security additions (not a security update) [15:04] and in the end i am wondering how i can use the latest release [15:07] I wan to configure samba server in my office. In our office their is 4 department like Sales, Marketing, Data-base, Finance. There are 25 users in our office and have to add those users in their respective departments. But here my question is i have to give different permission for particular users in department. So plz. help me to configure this! [15:08] aliverius: an application's major version does not change in the course of a release's lifetime [15:08] !info quassel-core [15:08] quassel-core (source: quassel): distributed, KDE/Qt-based IRC client - core/server component. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 270 kB, installed size 1068 kB [15:09] !info quassel-core lucid [15:09] quassel-core (source: quassel): distributed, KDE/Qt-based IRC client - core/server component. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu1.1 (lucid), package size 261 kB, installed size 1028 kB [15:09] aliverius: so use maverick [15:10] is any buddy can help regarding samba (acl) [15:10] i will use maverick's quassel pkg. i chose lucid cause it is an LTS afterall! [15:13] or can i use the source pkg and build it on lucid? dependency wise it should be feasible, but i am comming from the archlinux world so i dont know how packages work here! [15:14] aliverius: yes, you can build your own package [15:14] can i just download a buildscript and run it? [15:15] aliverius: no. it's more involved. you can either build an actual .deb file or use the PPA system (send changed source and build info to launchpad) [15:16] aliverius: you will need to do some reading [15:16] ok [15:16] aliverius: i would say that PPA is easiest [15:17] aliverius: as there are multiple ways/tools to build a .deb (confusing) [15:17] aliverius: see #launchpad for LP-related questions [15:18] ok ty. i will do some research 1st [15:22] New bug: #686607 in openssh (main) "ssh client should mention ssh-keygen on mismatched keys" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686607 [15:30] I've just installed ubuntu-server to a dell poweredge and all it's running is samba. What else can I run? [15:31] JoeyJoeJo: what release did you install? [15:31] 10.04 [15:31] JoeyJoeJo: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/index.html [15:35] pmatulis: Thanks, that was a great link [15:35] JoeyJoeJo: you're welcome [15:54] I'm having a bit of trouble configuring the DHCP server in Ubuntu 10.04. Specifically, PXE booting. [15:55] I have a set of host sections, each specifying a filename. The config worked in Ubuntu 8.04, but isn't working for devices using the Intel Boot Agent on 10.04 [15:56] It seems that the file and sname don't get set in the response if the DHCPDISCOVER provides a Parameter Request List. [15:57] I've tried setting option bootfile-name in the host sections, but this doesn't work - it only seems to work as a global option. Any ideas? [15:57] Hey jono [15:58] hey MWelchUK_work [15:58] I assume the weather is a bit warmer with you :-) === xfaf is now known as zul [16:07] New bug: #686627 in samba (main) "Samba server crashes on file read." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686627 [16:12] JamesPage: hey, can you join us in #ubuntu-meeting? [16:13] kirkland: yep - just seen the time... === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [16:45] I have an old computer that I want to setup as server and play about with it while in university [16:46] I'm using dyndns to use a free domain name and point that to my router which will point to my server [16:46] is there a way to setup subdomains so that I can have different websites on each running on the server? [17:21] i've just installed 10.04.1 on a system with 2 disks creating software raid. I created 3 raid1 MD devices in the installer. i formatted md0(/), md1(/var) and left md2 alone so that i could play with it later. when i do fdisk -l now, i don't see just /dev/md2, i get md2p1 md2p2 and md2p3. what are they? http://pastebin.com/8seZdjWr [17:38] kirkland: still around? [17:39] RoAkSoAx: in a meeting [17:39] kirkland: ok. no worries then [17:40] hm... pbpool 514K 97.2T 66.1K /pbpool [17:40] * RoyK has room for some pr0n [17:42] hi all , i installed a LAMP server yesterday but i'm new into it and i was wondering where to find the folder to put your web pages in ? === jeremy is now known as Guest54520 === Guest54520 is now known as jeremyA [17:46] New bug: #686671 in openssh (main) "ssh-copy-id assumes $HOME" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686671 [17:46] hello. I've recently upgraded from 8.04.01 LTS to 10.04.01 LTS. I'm experiencing hard hangs -- which is new. This is a server running 2.6.32-26-server, without X started. I do use virt-manager over ssh-tunneled X. Nothing is logged in /var/log/messages or /var/log/kern.log [17:47] amd64 architecture, 8gb of ram. SATA storage in softraid 1 setup. [17:47] dual-core athlon X2 5400+. [17:47] where should I start looking? [17:50] I can induce hard system hangs predictably by installing an OS on a virtual machine -- this affects VirtualBox and KVM both (I switched to KVM thinking VBox was the culprit) [17:51] dmesg ? [17:51] nothing shown [17:51] just the standard iptables kernel logging bits. [17:51] hardware could fail at all times [17:52] I'd not discard hardware so fast [17:53] I ran the identical hardware quite hard with 8.04.01 LTS for several years -- running both vmware server 1.0.6 and VirtualBox. This never happened before. [17:53] which is not to say it can't be hardware. [17:58] since nothing is getting logged to dmesg, any tips for isolating the hardware? [17:59] memtest + cpuburn [17:59] Wh1teL0tus: /var/www/ [17:59] doesn't hurts to turn off the machine for half an hour to test it [18:00] roger. I'll try cpuburn now, then rebooted into memtest this afternoon [18:00] cokegen: I somehow think the machine is hard to test while it's off :þ [18:01] * RoyK ducks [18:02] RoyK, :D [18:02] I have my methods ... [18:03] jeremyA, I'm booting a system rescue cd to see if it actually has cpuburn in it [18:03] thx [18:04] * RoyK just booked a long weekend in Reykjavík to thaw a bit [18:06] mprime could be another option [18:10] cpuburn has run for 8 minutes now, and temperature on the cpu is stable at 32C [18:12] what is exactly what you define as a "hard hang" man ? [18:12] video goes blank. keyboard mouse unresponsive. system no longer responds to pings or any network traffic [18:13] tried noacpi ? [18:13] and that kind of parameters booting the kernel ? [18:13] I have not yet tried noacpi. I can give that a shot. [18:14] * jeremyA drops off channel to reboot the gateway (which is the server in question) [18:23] jeremyA tried something already [18:23] ? [18:24] rebooted with noacpi in place, I thought.... [18:24] shouldn't the "noacpi" show up in /proc/cmdline then? [18:24] I think it should [18:25] must not have taken it. better go plug a monitor into this and force it from the grub command line. [18:25] bbiab [18:25] k [18:25] ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "tekkub@gmail.com" [18:26] [18:26] aka [18:26] jeremyA, yes it should (confirmed) [18:29] thanks mpavel ! [18:29] yep, acpi SHOULD show up in /proc/cmdline [18:29] it does now [18:30] yep [18:32] jeremyA, acpi=off could be too [18:32] neither were there, I must not've updated grub. [18:32] hello [18:32] I'd search the kernel docs for the kernel version you have there [18:33] anything in particular I should be looking for, cokegen? [18:33] I have a server, beyond-sight.com [18:33] when I drop off next time, it'll be due to server crash... [18:34] and I have utterly no idea how to configure webpage hosting for multiple web pages on the same server, other.beyond-sight.com versus beyond-sight.com [18:34] k [18:34] hopefully not ... [18:34] Zac: name-based virtual hosting! [18:35] ZacLnxNewb: You'd need to setup virtual hosts in your apache config and on your dns records. [18:35] when I get back from lunch, I can help you with that ZacLnxNewb [18:35] but someone here will probably beat me to it [18:35] jeremyA, I think most of the commands are there when you boot an install [18:35] jeremyA: Awesome. :D [18:35] noacpi is one and there could be others of relevance [18:35] just saying that if I were you I'd try those parameters ... [18:36] Pici: DNS records how? I have a DNS updater, I need to add that to update the dns network? [18:36] Pici: and then Apache config for name based virtual hosts? [18:38] does anyone know of a good guide on how to do name based virtual hosts? [18:39] i dont knwo what that would mean. "name based virtual hosts" [18:39] ZacLnxNewb: You'll need to setup a new A record for the subdomain. [18:39] oh.. apache. [18:40] sorry, i was thinking the other type of "virtual" (lxc/kvm/xen) [18:41] ZacLnxNewb: And then something like the following in your apache site configruation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/540727/ [18:43] some sample configs for you, ZacLnxNewb, at http://ccis2122.linux-classes.com/week12/ [18:43] Thank you [18:43] ZacLnxNewb: I guess you could use a CNAME instead of an A record if your subdomain is being served off of the same IP as the main domain. [18:43] jeremyA: Pici I'm trying to figure out how to make a new A record... [18:43] Pici: Same IP, same server hosting two web sites. :p [18:44] Pici: is there a way to do that through a free domain from dyndns? [18:44] mpavel: I'm really not sure, but I'd guess no. [18:44] probably that's why I wasn't able to do it so far :) [18:45] it should work with users (maybe?) [18:45] i couldn't get php scripts to execute though like that - but it could've been a php thing [18:45] mpavel: I'm just thinking out loud here, but you might be able to setup a new virtualhost for a different dyndns domain that points to your same IP> [18:46] hmm [18:46] Pici: never thought of that [18:48] Hi. Is there a trend about grub and xen fuckup in latest days? [18:48] ZacLnxNewb: http://ccis2122.linux-classes.com/week3/ [18:48] my lecture on Bind [18:48] sorry the notes aren't more explanatory [18:48] jeremyA: So I think I've set up the A records, subdomains with "a record" settings at the name hosting site [18:49] !language | elnur [18:49] elnur: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.. [18:49]