[02:19] 2:20am morning to all [02:21] morning :p [02:27] the recent media hype over the danger of the leak with vital places for security is interesting. the way it has been mentioned that it could help terrorists. a terrorist would never guess an oil/gas pipeline is important .. nor would they think to use a search engine which would give more information than the leak itself... [02:28] sorry.. i just felt like unloading that.. .. im finished now [02:28] buffer mpty [02:28] ^e somewhere. [02:30] i probably broke some terms of service, but then i did plan to stick ubuntu in the above rhetoric somwhere, and then forgot [02:31] in other news.. ubuntu users are happy and ubuntu is working (excluding netbook users who tried to use unity) :) [06:37] hi [06:37] Good Morning Everyone [06:38] How do i know my underlying hardware is 32 or 64 Bit ? [06:38] is it known via dmidecode ? === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller [07:19] morning all [07:19] kaushal: it is in /proc/cpuinfo [07:20] have a look at the flags, if they contain LM then you should be 64 bit capable [07:26] AlanBell: Thanks [07:27] much appreciated === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [08:31] morning o/ [08:38] morning o./ [08:38] o/ [08:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1-Q_8EbB8A [08:52] kaushal: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo [09:00] morning :) [09:00] Goooood Morning! [09:00] \o BigRedS [09:01] * screen-x is a temporary member of the work-at-home club [09:01] * BigRedS waves a mildly frosty hand [09:01] Ah, I did that last week. It was wonderful! [09:01] That depends on how well NX holds up for me.. [09:05] * screen-x experiments: does killing gdm, kill an nx session..? [09:07] good mornin [09:07] mornin hoover :) [09:10] aloha [09:18] Morning [09:18] ipmi is awesome :) [09:18] and hi daubers [09:19] screen-x: heh, literally just using IPMI to fix someones box [09:24] hello screen-x [09:26] curl http://ryanak.ca/files/holiday-motd [09:35] morning all [09:36] mornin popey [09:37] morning mr popey [09:41] what is impi? [09:42] AlanBell: Pure win! [09:42] imperial pie :/ [09:42] http://www.canonical.com/news/impilinux [09:42] AlanBell: inteligent platform management interface [09:42] AlanBell: IPMI [09:43] AlanBell: not that [09:43] * BigRedS is late to the party, clearly [09:43] AlanBell: its a spec for secondary CPUs that can be used for out of band management. [09:45] I thought AlanBell meant IPMI at first, then re-read the original line... [09:46] IPMI is really useful for accessing systems on their serial port, remote rebooting etc. [09:46] * AlanBell misread it [09:46] dwatkins: Or for using as a remote kvm :) [09:46] so basically a built in remote kvm [09:47] Not all IPMI interfaces will do forwarding of the graphical output of the display, but yes, that is very handy too. [09:47] with power control [09:47] and remote virtual media [09:47] The Intel ones tend to just allow serial with ipmitool, whereas the SuperMicro ones have a web-interface with a java console applet, and you can even mount an ISO as if it were a CD or USB device you'd attached [09:48] I don't know about other manufacturers, though. [09:48] I remember having a serial port one on an HP box a long time ago, was quite cool, but not very practical, if you were standing within serial port distance then you could do whatever you needed anyway [09:48] I used to support SGI systems which use those two in their clusters. [09:49] AlanBell: we also used to sometimes have a laptop or other PC with a serial connection to the server, so you could ssh to the laptop and do stuff via serial on the bigger machine [09:49] dwatkins: this was back when laptops were *very* expensive! [09:49] there are a lot of terrible ipmi implementations though [09:49] the chip on sunfire x2200 m2's is awful [09:50] AlanBell: ah right, those were probably the days you could buy a 'L3 controller' - a separate PC to control your cluster/mainframe from [09:50] I suspect I should be glad I never encountered it, directhex [09:51] dwatkins: ipmi chip stops listening to any commands until power cycled about 1 time in 4 when issuing power commands to the chassis [09:51] as in "ipmi chip is power cycled" [09:51] as in "unplug server, wait, plug in server" [09:55] directhex: upgrade its firmware [09:55] directhex: I saw a lot of that sort of problem with these systems, often it was a bug in the BMC firmware; check the version with ipmitool, chances are there's a newer release [09:59] Hidyho! [09:59] hey biggie [10:00] Sup, hoovie? [10:07] not much mate, yourself? [10:07] Machines, servers and PC's seem to break at the touch of my fingers at the moment [10:07] sometimes even a remote ssh login seems enough ;-) [10:07] hoover: don't touch then [10:07] easier sad then done when you're an IT engineer ;-) [10:08] take a day off [10:08] hide in the loo [10:08] a day probably won't suffice... I'm feeling more like in the three-months rage [10:08] range even [10:08] just the right time for the annual performance review today 8( [10:08] need someone with a fixing aura to visit ? [10:08] * BigRedS imagines a three-month rage [10:08] not pretty [10:09] lol [10:09] certainly not... I cannot even type anymore it seems [10:12] hoover: you'll be ok, just don't leave r00t terminals lying around.. [10:18] I like that Fife Council have a list of currently open schools, as opposed to ones which are closed - it's probably shorter. [10:21] hehe [10:22] Scotland snowed in ATM? [10:22] hoover: it's more "iced-in" here in Edinburgh [10:22] http://rowla.dyndns.org/gallery/v/blog/ice.jpg.html is a picture of a metre-high pile of ice I had to dig out from in front of my car to be able to move it this morning, for example [10:25] nice [10:25] not quite as bad here in .de [10:26] I imagine it's warmed-up a little now, it was -9 C this morning. [10:26] although the north has been hit rather hard by snow [10:27] http://rowla.dyndns.org/gallery/v/blog/P1000268.jpg.html [10:27] I think that mainland europe know how to deal with seasonal weather [10:27] That's the difference, we only know about rain [10:27] AlanBell: mega cute [10:28] AlanBell: http://rowla.dyndns.org/blog/2010/06/27/best-penguin-ever/ [10:28] http://rowla.dyndns.org/gallery/v/blog/IMG_3049.html oh my [10:28] Oh gawd [10:28] WHo is that? [10:28] AlanBell: yeah, a friend of mine whose nickname is "Beerman" [10:29] Damn, I wanted to point and laugh [10:29] It's not me, no. [10:30] thats cool.. [10:36] Really wish the Nexus S was a dual core cpu :( [10:37] Same cpu as the One but more ram. Quite a dissapointment [10:37] Not really an upgrade in my mind. [10:38] dunno, that ram comes in handy for 2.2 [10:39] * MartijnVdS waits for 2.3 on the Nexus One to decide if he wants the Nexus S [10:39] The tracker ball on the N1 is very handy for presicision text editing, why don't more phones have one? [10:39] because they get knackered in pockets [10:40] I can see that happening without a cover. I keep mine in the neoprean pouch [10:40] sensible [10:40] Wish it came with the Wildfire that I gave to my GF [10:40] * popey does precision editing with his finger [10:41] Some of us have banana fingers [10:41] screen-x: not mine.. [10:41] http://twitpic.com/photos/popey does that work for any of you? [10:41] Waiting for twitpic.com.... [10:41] I see popey [10:41] waiting for twitpic.com [10:42] popey: nope [10:42] ah it works now [10:42] popey: wfm [10:42] "Photos from popey" + your face [10:42] Just slow to respond [10:42] Which I blame VirginMedia [10:42] "There was an error loading this page, please try again." [10:42] yup, wfm now [10:42] so.. why aren't you all out storming the place where Assange is being held? ;) [10:42] yeah, I'm getting all kinds of errors [10:42] popey: refresh [10:42] MartijnVdS: we're british [10:42] we don't storm [10:42] http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashtek-uk/ [10:43] Flashtek: I know how to operate a browser, thanks :) [10:43] popey: ;-) [10:43] popey: so, what do you do instead of storm? ;) [10:43] we tut dissapprovingly [10:43] http://www.flickr.com/photos/flashtek-uk/5240316743/ awwwwwww [10:43] drink some more tea [10:43] nigelb: we tut [10:43] whilst drinking tea [10:43] lol [10:43] also.. paddington hard stares [10:43] Awwwww [10:43] PBHS! [10:44] you like that ? [10:44] I like cats :) [10:44] <3 cats [10:44] morning all [10:44] Hi davmor2 [10:44] bigcalm: there are more photos [10:44] * nigelb sneezes. [10:44] \o/ [10:44] * davmor2 I like big cats [10:44] Too many cat lovers here :p [10:44] MartijnVdS: Also, rape is a serious crime, so he should stand trial (even if he is innocent, in which case he has nothing to hide really does he?) [10:44] daubers: I think the rape charge was dropped [10:45] Sex without a condom [10:45] this is somewhat offtopic [10:45] Just a little [10:45] yes, it is. sorry about that. [10:45] Back to cats! [10:45] !politics though [10:45] what, where did that come from ? [10:45] AlanBell: !wikileaks? ) [10:45] !politics [10:45] Please take political discussion to ##politics-uk. Thank you! [10:45] !cats [10:45] yeah, there is #wikileaks [10:46] bigcalm: popey: http://picasaweb.google.com/davmor2/TigerTrip2010#5479982494408818594 [10:46] cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp [10:46] Catting is fun [10:46] big kitty [10:46] Mew [10:47] that's such a fake.. it's ben photoshopped you can tell.. the shadows are all wrong.. [10:47] ;-) [10:47] :) [10:47] hmm he doesn't looked best pleased [10:47] far from gruntled [10:48] screen-x: probably find someone took his fristies away [10:48] *frosties [10:48] nooo! must have have cereals [10:48] bah [10:48] i am about to eat my lunch [10:48] popey: you can make it till 12 [10:48] * popey just has chocolate [10:49] popey: no marmite... [10:49] popey: just tell people you're on CET [10:49] it's almost lunch time here :) [10:49] http://picasaweb.google.com/davmor2/TigerTrip2010#5479985077104213714 this is my favourite though he's a gentle giant unless he has some food. He's upto 15 feet long really big kitty [10:50] I'll bet [10:50] evil cats [10:50] czajkowski: take it back, take it back now! [10:51] * Flashtek glares at czajkowski [10:51] czajkowski: allergies? [10:51] heheh [10:51] czajkowski doesn't like kitties === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List: http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines - http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting Thursday December 16th 21:00 GMT in #ubuntu-uk-meeting http://tinyurl.com/uukmeet | Christmas party http://ubunt.eu/c2 ☃ | KittenLove! [10:51] lol [10:51] bold popey [10:51] screen-x: i don' [10:51] hahahahahahahaaha [10:52] screen-x: i don't like them, but always seem to come to me. most weird [10:52] :D [10:52] czajkowski: they know [10:52] They want you to love them [10:52] ok the accent on the guy talking now in the session is rather shrill. new york accent. [10:52] bigcalm: no. never [10:52] No ney never no more [10:53] Will I play the wild rover, no never, no more [10:53] screen-x: No czajkowski is just pure unadulterated evilness, anything the masses like she hate, except for chocolate and crisps and beer [10:53] I'm not sure thats fair davmor2 [10:53] There's not a lot else that the masses as a whole like, really [10:53] davmor2: you forgot rugby. [10:54] * AlanBell hates hate itself [10:54] czajkowski: yeah but you support the team :P [10:54] ooh meta hate [10:54] * BigRedS enters an endless loop [10:54] * AlanBell disappears in a puff of recursion [10:54] naff team even [10:55] AlanBell: at the risk of being philosophical, is there nothing evil enough to be worthy of hate? [10:56] Microsoft ? [10:56] Humm [10:56] MS haters gonna hate [10:56] More snow :( [10:57] Yay [10:57] Bright and frosty here [10:57] I should take some photos [10:57] where is bigcalm ? [10:57] Near Telford [10:57] yay [10:57] I was up near there recently.. [10:58] Oswestry [10:58] Aye [10:58] I was also in Telford for another meting a few months back [10:58] GF and I were there last night, visiting GF's brother who is in hospital there atm [10:58] and I will be in Oswestry again next month [10:59] Most pathetic snow though, very slightly [11:00] bigcalm: I can't see 4ft infront of me, stupid fog :( [11:00] sit closer to the screen [11:00] turn on the windscreeen heater.. [11:01] Fog was here over the weekend and yesterday. Really clear today [11:01] whats tcp/555 dsf? [11:01] freeciv 5556/tcp rptp # Freeciv gameplay [11:01] freeciv 5556/udp [11:01] rplay 5555/udp # RPlay audio service [11:02] screen-x: thats all i have.. [11:02] screen-x: printing [11:02] popey: on 555 ? [11:02] yes [11:03] ah ok, thanks. [11:04] * davmor2 prods czajkowski for not taking part in the kittylove [11:13] * Flashtek strokes his wifes kitteh [11:16] !ohmy [11:16] Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [11:16] :) [11:17] what ? [11:17] I said kitteh [11:17] it's on topic [11:18] it is === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List: http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines - http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting Thursday December 16th 21:00 GMT in #ubuntu-uk-meeting http://tinyurl.com/uukmeet | Christmas party http://ubunt.eu/c2 ☃ | ChickenLove! [11:18] thats fowl.. [11:18] hahahha [11:18] Bah! === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List: http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines - http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting Thursday December 16th 21:00 GMT in #ubuntu-uk-meeting http://tinyurl.com/uukmeet | Christmas party http://ubunt.eu/c2 ☃ | *Love! [11:19] astronomy? [11:19] yay, generic love [11:19] \o/ [11:19] Wild love? [11:19] or asterisk [11:20] no no [11:20] that's wrong [11:20] it should be ^(.*)Love$ [11:20] this channel gets stranger and stranger [11:20] all inclusive love :p [11:20] indeed [11:20] nigelb: who said it was a regex rather than a glob? [11:21] screen-x: regex makes it geekier :p [11:21] Great big globs of love [11:21] though if its a glob, the ! will have strange effects [11:21] czajkowski: isn't it lovely? [11:21] heh [11:24] Anybody here recomend qnap for some simple nas? I need to provide off-site backup for my parents [11:31] * popey hugs edge10 [11:38] that was a recommendation for bigcalm btw :) [11:39] * bigcalm googles [11:39] popey, they don't have ethernet by the looks of things, so basically just a large storage device and that's it ? [11:39] bigcalm: how much data ? [11:39] 1tb will be more than enough for them [11:40] get the same router I have, it has a USB slot on the back for storage arrays [11:40] I'm thinking of a device with 2 bays so it can either be a raid or extended later [11:40] I suppose I could connect one to my miniitx box [11:42] bigcalm: usb hub.. [11:42] umm.. my kitten likes marmite [11:42] I've had problems with USB drives not reconnecting correctly after a power outage, or just randomly dropping [11:43] bigcalm: what are you going to use as a backup agent on your parent's machines? [11:44] Just downloaded the photos from my 350D and have actually shocked myself with the quality of some of the shots [11:44] screen-x: rsync [11:44] bigcalm: good or bad ? [11:44] Flashtek: good [11:44] bigcalm: might you want to use rolling backups ? [11:44] Possibly [11:44] as i've used rsiff-backup with great success before [11:44] *rdiff-backup [11:45] The main bulk of their data are photos [11:45] rsniff...? ;-) [11:46] Flashtek: that looks perfect. Thanks :) [11:49] * screen-x uses rsnapshot [11:53] bigcalm: n/p [11:54] * hoover uses bacula [11:57] * jpds uses rsync [12:05] So, that's the backup method sorted. Still need to decide upon a physical device now [12:08] This goes to show how much I've been able to take my camera out or bother to upload to flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/archives/date-posted/2010/12/07/ [12:09] bigcalm: pretty frost [12:09] Yep yep [12:09] bigcalm: do you have always on machines at home? or do you need a NAS so that you don't have to leave a machine on..? [12:10] screen-x: I do have a machine on all the time. But I'd like for things to still work if that machine were to fail [12:10] But I guess that might cost more than its worth [12:10] diplo: yes, they do [12:10] It does increase the cost significantly [12:10] diplo: depends which model you get [12:11] Aha! I have a viglen doing bugger all atm [12:11] i was thinking a service like dropbox might do the job.. [12:11] Could set that up in the office again and hook some storage up to it [12:11] Flashtek: slow and limiting [12:11] bigcalm: swirlly pebbles make my head hurt [12:11] screen-x: :D [12:13] screen-x: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/203335702/in/set-72057594070877691/ [12:14] bigcalm: should do that with a tripod :) [12:14] screen-x: na, it's more fun to make yourself dizzy ;) [12:15] It's more organic like this [12:15] bah, why can't shotwell filter by filetype :( [12:15] daubers: file a bug so it can in the next release [12:17] davmor2: If I have a chance later on I'll fix it [12:26] \o/ jabber [12:26] Jabber \o/ [12:44] There's nothing pecular about dual booting windows 7 with Linux is there? As compared with, say, XP. I recall stories of weirdness when Vista came out.. [12:45] nope [12:45] BigRedS: I have win7 and ubuntu on my laptop. No problems at all [12:45] WFM [12:45] BigRedS: just install linux first iirc [12:45] Otherway around [12:45] ha [12:45] * bigcalm tuts :P [12:46] i know one makes your life hell :/ [12:46] Grub will see windows and add it to the boot loading screen [12:48] as opposed to windows seeing grub and telling it to sod off [12:49] yum - oxtail soup. [12:49] nice [12:58] can someone tell me how to make wine recognise i have a disk in the drive? [13:13] wow! I just winged at transtec about a faulty server, they have dispatched replacement parts for everything in the machine, and organised for an engineer to come tomorrow. We don't even have a maintenance contract with them. [13:17] sweet [13:21] If my face is tiggling, do you think its time to turn the convector heater off? Which is pointing directly at my face [13:22] nperry: or point it away from your face? [13:22] Then I'd be cold again, plus the big warehouse door is open. [13:23] So i need it pointing to my face else I wont feel hot [13:23] point it at you from further away? or turn it down? [13:24] put a fine mesh between the fan and your face, to act as a diffuser.. [13:25] Its either on or off on this thing. [13:36] nperry: how about putting on an extra layer of clothing? [13:36] nperry: Or close the door? [13:37] that's far to simple a solution, daubers ;-) [13:37] *too [13:40] dwatkins: Some kind of arduino based thermostat that opens the doors when it's too hot and turns on the heater and closes the door when too cold? [13:40] * screen-x spies a security risk [13:42] Ooooh... Tron soundtrack is out [13:42] and only £5 on U1 [13:42] * daubers downloads [13:43] daubers: I recommend Last.fm "mix radio" for hackathon music :) [13:44] MartijnVdS: similar artists akufen has been expanding my mind a little recently ;-) [13:45] screen-x: good, good :) [13:45] minimal++ [13:45] screen-x: also try Plastikman [13:46] ok :) [13:53] * daubers waits for U1 to download [13:53] daubers: plastikman? akufen? :) [13:54] tron.. [13:54] MartijnVdS: Tron Legacy soundtrack by Daft Punk :D [13:57] * daubers notes it's not actually downloaded anything yet... [13:57] Any python hackers in today? [13:57] daubers: try restarting your ubuntu one daemons [13:57] !ask| blutack [13:57] blutack: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [13:59] * screen-x thinkgs that blugybe would be a great nick [13:59] screen-x: why? [14:00] because gybe is the opposite of tack. [14:01] Why is this happening? https://gist.github.com/731804 [14:01] bluduck [14:02] Blut-Ack -- it's German [14:02] Is it? [14:02] haha [14:02] Blut, German for "blood" [14:02] blutack: what do you expect to happen? [14:03] No output for values less than 0.1? [14:03] Have I done something totally stupid? [14:03] int(d) ? [14:03] blutack: Your testing a string against a float which may cause an issue [14:03] screen-x: i'd hav gone for float(d) :) as they're <1 [14:03] ah yes [14:04] Ah-ha [14:04] Forgot I switched to the csv reader, which doesn't cast [14:04] Thanks guys! [14:05] :( [14:05] sup daubers? [14:05] * daubers prods U1 some more [14:05] ah [14:06] woot, got one file [14:06] Thanks daubers: http://imgur.com/jfO30 [14:06] ooh wassat blutack? [14:07] LBM Unsteady Flow simulation - orange thing is a cylinder in the middle [14:07] blutack: pertty [14:07] Needed to cap the velocities above 0.1 to get the colour scaling right! [14:18] * screen-x appreciates that in chrom(e|ium) you can reload while viewing source. [14:45] screen-x: the new chromium in natty has a VERY nice trace/view source/etc. panel [14:46] MartijnVdS: which version? I'm on 9.x [14:46] screen-x: 8 [14:47] 7 on maverick, 8 on natty [15:59] hello there [15:59] how to unistall plymouth ? [16:01] anyone there [16:01]