[00:19] <charlie-tca> First screenshot - Natty desktop with Xfce4.7 and new panels
[00:19] <charlie-tca> http://imagebin.org/126610
[00:19] <charlie-tca> Ignore the text on the desktop, it is conky running
[07:43] <shad1> Hello
[07:43] <shad1> Is there someone who could please help me real quick?
[07:44] <TheSheep> !hi | shad1
[07:44] <ubottu> shad1: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[07:44] <shad1> Hey! Alright
[07:46] <shad1> So, I'm trying to install Xubuntu on my Mac Mini, but the .iso file is too big for my CD's, and I can't do DVDs because the Mac mini won't read those. And it won't boot off of any USB drives either
[07:46] <shad1> How do I 'skim' the .iso down?
[07:46] <TheSheep> its should fit on the cd :/
[07:47] <TheSheep> but you can also do a network install
[07:47] <TheSheep> !mini
[07:47] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:48] <shad1> Well I thought so too, but every time Power ISO keeps telling me 744 needed, 702 available...should I just use a different program?
[07:48] <TheSheep> trying won't hurt
[07:48] <Myrtti> the disks are less than 700M in size, so perhaps
[07:49] <TheSheep> you can also try enabling 'overburn' in the program's options
[07:49] <shad1> I couldnt find that in powerisop
[07:49] <shad1> powerIso*
[07:49] <TheSheep> be sure that you are recording the file as image, not just putting the file on the cd
[07:49] <TheSheep> the latter won't work
[07:50] <shad1> How can I tell the difference? I double-click the file to open, then hit burn
[07:52] <shad1> I mean, when I open it, it tells me the file is a Hybrid Mac/PC Image, as opposed to "Non-bootable image" or somethingm
[07:54] <TheSheep> I really don't know that program you are using
[07:54] <TheSheep> !iso
[07:54] <ubottu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:54] <TheSheep> hmm
[07:54] <TheSheep> !burn
[07:54] <ubottu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:55] <TheSheep> they have a howto there
[07:55] <shad1> Ah, I knew it would be a problem trying to do this from Windows..
[07:56] <shad1> I tried making a VM to do stuff from there but it was bugging out on me ;/
[07:57] <shad1> Damn, Daemon tools does not work either, same "insufficient disc space" error
[07:59] <TheSheep> shad1: make sure the iso you download is correct -- check the md5 checksum
[07:59] <TheSheep> !md5 | shad1
[07:59] <ubottu> shad1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:06] <Myrtti> shad1: you could try InfraBurn
[08:06] <Myrtti> oh, vm.
[08:07] <shad1> Do I need to extract the .iso to check the md5sum? I follow the directions and it just spits out a ton of errors
[08:07] <Myrtti> shad1: no
[08:07] <shad1> Hm
[08:11] <shad1> Well I'm just going for the overburning option
[08:11] <TheSheep> shad1: if the md5 is incorrect, you will just waste a cd
[08:11] <TheSheep> shad1: your download was corrupted
[08:11] <TheSheep> shad1: download again
[08:12] <TheSheep> (or use bittorrent, it can download only the broken parts)
[08:12] <shad1> I'll try that
[08:13] <shad1> Man, how is the occurance of a corruption that high?
[08:13] <shad1> risk of*
[08:14] <Sysi> pretty big file over internet
[08:14] <shad1> Well uTorrent didn't download anything new, jsut says I'm seeding now
[08:15] <shad1> All 744MB of the .iso
[08:19] <TheSheep> :/
[08:20] <TheSheep> can you pastebin the errors you got?
[08:23] <shad1> I dont even know if I did it right to be honest...I followed this guide: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows  And the .iso is on my desktop, CD'd over to nmy desktop, and did md5sum -c md5sum.txt (I grabbed that from within the .iso) and all the errors are "No such file or directory"
[08:24] <Sysi> md5sum.txt need to be on same folder, and you need to run that command there
[08:25] <Sysi> *.txt and .iso
[08:25] <shad1> the .txt and .iso were both in the same folder
[08:25] <shad1> does it matter if there are other files and folders in that folder alongside the .iso and .txt?
[08:27] <TheSheep> I think it tried to check the sums for other files in that md5sum.txt which you don't have
[08:27] <Sysi> it shouldn't
[08:28] <Sysi> you had correct path?
[08:28] <shad1> let me try again with the two in their own folder
[08:29] <shad1> Same thing. "md5sum -c md5sum.txt"
[08:33] <Myrtti> what if you do md5sum disk.iso?
[08:33] <shad1> without the -c ?
[08:33] <Myrtti> yes
[08:34] <Myrtti> and then compare the output to the contents of the md5sum.txt
[08:35] <shad1> yeah it gave me something real now
[08:35] <shad1> let me compare
[08:36] <Myrtti> though if you've done the download with torrent then it should by default check out
[08:36] <shad1> yeah, they are exactly the same anyway
[08:36] <Myrtti> (I personally never use -c filename.md5 anyway)
[08:37] <shad1> is -c just to compare every files' md5?
[08:37] <Myrtti> shad1: so whatever vm solution you're using, it's not capable of using an ISO as installation media?
[08:37] <Myrtti> shad1: it's useful if you've downloaded many files
[08:39] <Sysi> isn't processing md5sum from big file a bit slow operation?
[08:39] <shad1> oh, well i made a VM with ubuntu 10.04 just cause i have it on hand, and installed it, but for some reason the stupid thing doesnt like my keyboards. I could type before installing, but I can't log in because the keyboard just flat out stops working. Mousing over it turns the caps lock key off and stuff.
[08:39] <shad1> And yeah it took like 10 seconds to do the md5, but my currrent rig is fairly hefty
[08:46] <shad2> fd
[08:48] <shad2> well im reinstalling the VM stuff, hopefully it should work...but once it is up, what should I do?
[08:55] <shad2> anyone?
[08:59] <shad2> well thanks anyways guys
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[17:22] <knome> charlie-tca, what's with the joincycle @#shimmer ?
[17:24] <charlie-tca> heh
[17:24] <charlie-tca> trying to confure you... :-)
[17:24] <charlie-tca> no, actually, I couldn't remember the channel, so I was looking to find it. Adding to Natty artwork page for contacting ochosi
[17:25]  * charlie-tca could have looked at his channel list. It would have been easier
[17:26] <charlie-tca> I seem to have installed greybird in natty
[17:26] <knome> a-ha
[17:27] <charlie-tca> What happened to blue? or should I not be asking ;-)
[17:41] <nicofs> how can i change the appearance of only one of my panels? (background: transparent...)
[18:52] <likemindead> This channel's deader than MTV...
[18:52] <likemindead> ;-)
[18:53] <Sysi> xubuntu works too well
[18:53] <charlie-tca> +1
[18:54] <charlie-tca> That, and we don't know the answer
[18:54] <likemindead> Good answer, Sysi! :D
[18:55] <likemindead> I have a new hdd under the Xmas tree & I've been tempted to switch to UNE. But I love Xfce sooo much. I dunno...
[19:22] <mikubuntu> having trouble configuring wireless for intellinet driven receiver ... anybody have any links that might help us out?
[19:24] <charlie-tca> !wireless
[19:24] <ubottu> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:26] <mikubuntu> thx charlie i will check it out
[20:05] <vinny> hi. how can I get flash on opera for xubuntu on a PPC
[20:05] <vinny> ?
[20:05] <vinny> any help would be appreciated
[20:08] <likemindead> Have you installed the "xubuntu-restricted-extras" package, vinny?
[20:08] <likemindead> !flash
[20:08] <ubottu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:09] <Sysi> i wonder if it's architechture dependant
[20:11] <vinny> by architecture dependent, do you mean the restricted extras
[20:11] <vinny> and no, I haven't downloaded the restricted extras
[20:12] <vinny> i just found it. I am going to do that now.
[20:18] <vinny> so i get the feeling restricted extras is not for PPC architecture
[20:18] <vinny> ...
[20:18] <Sysi> problem with restricted
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Might ask in #ubuntu-powerpc then, too
[20:18] <vinny> ah great
[20:19] <vinny> thanks for the heads up
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[21:19] <John_Abbott> Hey
[21:19] <John_Abbott> Quicky here, How do I load a cd in Prompt mode on ubuntu?
[21:19] <charlie-tca> you mean, mount it?
[21:20] <John_Abbott> Yes
[21:20] <charlie-tca> create a directory for it, then use      mount /dev/cdrom /DIR_JUST_CREATED
[21:20] <charlie-tca> but it might be /dev/sr0 like mine is
[21:20] <John_Abbott> ...
[21:20] <charlie-tca> oh, put sudo in front of mount
[21:21] <John_Abbott> I have a actual disk.
[21:23] <Myrtti> !mount
[21:23] <ubottu> mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[21:23]  * Myrtti facepalms
[21:23] <Myrtti> !iso
[21:23] <ubottu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[21:24] <Myrtti> there we go
[21:25] <charlie-tca> Oh, sure, I could not have done that
[21:25] <Myrtti> but AFAIK even if it's totally headless system it should automount the cd
[21:25] <Myrtti> if it doesn't, IIRC iso9660 is the correct filesystem type
[21:27] <John_Abbott> GUYS.
[21:27] <John_Abbott> IT'S A DVD.
[21:27] <John_Abbott> ...< . >
[21:27] <charlie-tca> John_Abbott: it does not matter. Please don't shout at us
[21:27] <John_Abbott> I'm not trying to copy files to it, i'm trying to run files from it!
[21:28] <charlie-tca> and... does it not show up when you put it in the drive?
[21:28] <John_Abbott> It does, but I get a error.
[21:28] <charlie-tca> and the error is...
[21:28] <John_Abbott> Hold on.
[21:28] <John_Abbott> Lemme restart
[21:29] <Myrtti> mountpoint /cdrom does not exist, I suppose
[21:29] <John_Abbott> Ok, Can I just tell you? It's a windows 98 SE install disk.
[21:29] <John_Abbott> I'm trying different OS's on this computer.
[21:29] <charlie-tca> and it won't autostart in linux, right?
[21:29] <John_Abbott> Nope
[21:30] <Myrtti> it's not supposed to.
[21:30] <John_Abbott> When I click setup.exe
[21:30] <John_Abbott> ...what?
[21:30] <charlie-tca> because it is a windows cd.
[21:30] <John_Abbott> ...Drat
[21:30] <charlie-tca> Linux does not use an .exe file
[21:30] <John_Abbott> Is there any possible way to run it?
[21:30] <charlie-tca> start the computer with the cd in the drive?
[21:30] <John_Abbott> I do.
[21:31] <John_Abbott> Then it just boots Ubuntu
[21:31] <charlie-tca> change the bios to boot from cd
[21:31] <Myrtti> if you're willing to very probably erasing whatever you've got in the computer, reboot with the cd in the drive.
[21:31] <John_Abbott> Even when I select tboot the CD/
[21:31] <Myrtti> then there's always a possibility the CD is so scratched or damaged it won't boot.
[21:32] <John_Abbott> I just burned it -.-
[21:33] <charlie-tca> Help for windows in actually in ##windows
[21:33] <charlie-tca> As I recall, some of the win98 cd's require a floppy boot
[21:33] <John_Abbott> oh
[21:34] <charlie-tca> They needed DOS to boot the cd
[21:35] <John_Abbott> Drat
[21:35] <John_Abbott> It's a dvd. and I only have a cd and DVD drive
[21:35] <charlie-tca> and again, it doesn't matter to linux if it is a cd or dvd
[21:36] <charlie-tca> The only I can do is suggest you try ##windows for help with it.
[21:50] <Thermi> gn8
[23:26] <nicofs> how can i change the appearance of only one of my panels? (background: transparent...) Is there some conf file to do this?
[23:27] <charlie-tca> I don't think it is possible to only change one
[23:28] <nicofs> charlie-tca: from what i see they are managed in some sort of xml files... i found the xml to one of my panels.. if i could find the other one...