[00:19] <charlie-tca> First screenshot - Natty desktop with Xfce4.7 and new panels
[00:19] <charlie-tca> http://imagebin.org/126610
[00:19] <charlie-tca> Ignore the text on the desktop, it is conky running
[07:43] <shad1> Hello
[07:43] <shad1> Is there someone who could please help me real quick?
[07:44] <TheSheep> !hi | shad1
[07:44] <shad1> Hey! Alright
[07:46] <shad1> So, I'm trying to install Xubuntu on my Mac Mini, but the .iso file is too big for my CD's, and I can't do DVDs because the Mac mini won't read those. And it won't boot off of any USB drives either
[07:46] <shad1> How do I 'skim' the .iso down?
[07:46] <TheSheep> its should fit on the cd :/
[07:47] <TheSheep> but you can also do a network install
[07:47] <TheSheep> !mini
[07:48] <shad1> Well I thought so too, but every time Power ISO keeps telling me 744 needed, 702 available...should I just use a different program?
[07:48] <TheSheep> trying won't hurt
[07:48] <Myrtti> the disks are less than 700M in size, so perhaps
[07:49] <TheSheep> you can also try enabling 'overburn' in the program's options
[07:49] <shad1> I couldnt find that in powerisop
[07:49] <shad1> powerIso*
[07:49] <TheSheep> be sure that you are recording the file as image, not just putting the file on the cd
[07:49] <TheSheep> the latter won't work
[07:50] <shad1> How can I tell the difference? I double-click the file to open, then hit burn
[07:52] <shad1> I mean, when I open it, it tells me the file is a Hybrid Mac/PC Image, as opposed to "Non-bootable image" or somethingm
[07:54] <TheSheep> I really don't know that program you are using
[07:54] <TheSheep> !iso
[07:54] <TheSheep> hmm
[07:54] <TheSheep> !burn
[07:55] <TheSheep> they have a howto there
[07:55] <shad1> Ah, I knew it would be a problem trying to do this from Windows..
[07:56] <shad1> I tried making a VM to do stuff from there but it was bugging out on me ;/
[07:57] <shad1> Damn, Daemon tools does not work either, same "insufficient disc space" error
[07:59] <TheSheep> shad1: make sure the iso you download is correct -- check the md5 checksum
[07:59] <TheSheep> !md5 | shad1
[08:06] <Myrtti> shad1: you could try InfraBurn
[08:06] <Myrtti> oh, vm.
[08:07] <shad1> Do I need to extract the .iso to check the md5sum? I follow the directions and it just spits out a ton of errors
[08:07] <Myrtti> shad1: no
[08:07] <shad1> Hm
[08:11] <shad1> Well I'm just going for the overburning option
[08:11] <TheSheep> shad1: if the md5 is incorrect, you will just waste a cd
[08:11] <TheSheep> shad1: your download was corrupted
[08:11] <TheSheep> shad1: download again
[08:12] <TheSheep> (or use bittorrent, it can download only the broken parts)
[08:12] <shad1> I'll try that
[08:13] <shad1> Man, how is the occurance of a corruption that high?
[08:13] <shad1> risk of*
[08:14] <Sysi> pretty big file over internet
[08:14] <shad1> Well uTorrent didn't download anything new, jsut says I'm seeding now
[08:15] <shad1> All 744MB of the .iso
[08:19] <TheSheep> :/
[08:20] <TheSheep> can you pastebin the errors you got?
[08:23] <shad1> I dont even know if I did it right to be honest...I followed this guide: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows  And the .iso is on my desktop, CD'd over to nmy desktop, and did md5sum -c md5sum.txt (I grabbed that from within the .iso) and all the errors are "No such file or directory"
[08:24] <Sysi> md5sum.txt need to be on same folder, and you need to run that command there
[08:25] <Sysi> *.txt and .iso
[08:25] <shad1> the .txt and .iso were both in the same folder
[08:25] <shad1> does it matter if there are other files and folders in that folder alongside the .iso and .txt?
[08:27] <TheSheep> I think it tried to check the sums for other files in that md5sum.txt which you don't have
[08:27] <Sysi> it shouldn't
[08:28] <Sysi> you had correct path?
[08:28] <shad1> let me try again with the two in their own folder
[08:29] <shad1> Same thing. "md5sum -c md5sum.txt"
[08:33] <Myrtti> what if you do md5sum disk.iso?
[08:33] <shad1> without the -c ?
[08:33] <Myrtti> yes
[08:34] <Myrtti> and then compare the output to the contents of the md5sum.txt
[08:35] <shad1> yeah it gave me something real now
[08:35] <shad1> let me compare
[08:36] <Myrtti> though if you've done the download with torrent then it should by default check out
[08:36] <shad1> yeah, they are exactly the same anyway
[08:36] <Myrtti> (I personally never use -c filename.md5 anyway)
[08:37] <shad1> is -c just to compare every files' md5?
[08:37] <Myrtti> shad1: so whatever vm solution you're using, it's not capable of using an ISO as installation media?
[08:37] <Myrtti> shad1: it's useful if you've downloaded many files
[08:39] <Sysi> isn't processing md5sum from big file a bit slow operation?
[08:39] <shad1> oh, well i made a VM with ubuntu 10.04 just cause i have it on hand, and installed it, but for some reason the stupid thing doesnt like my keyboards. I could type before installing, but I can't log in because the keyboard just flat out stops working. Mousing over it turns the caps lock key off and stuff.
[08:39] <shad1> And yeah it took like 10 seconds to do the md5, but my currrent rig is fairly hefty
[08:46] <shad2> fd
[08:48] <shad2> well im reinstalling the VM stuff, hopefully it should work...but once it is up, what should I do?
[08:55] <shad2> anyone?
[08:59] <shad2> well thanks anyways guys
[10:51] <dario_> hi
[10:51] <dario_> !it
[10:59] <sagarchalise> !fr
[11:05] <sagarchalise> !en
[17:22] <knome> charlie-tca, what's with the joincycle @#shimmer ?
[17:24] <charlie-tca> heh
[17:24] <charlie-tca> trying to confure you... :-)
[17:24] <charlie-tca> no, actually, I couldn't remember the channel, so I was looking to find it. Adding to Natty artwork page for contacting ochosi
[17:25]  * charlie-tca could have looked at his channel list. It would have been easier
[17:26] <charlie-tca> I seem to have installed greybird in natty
[17:26] <knome> a-ha
[17:27] <charlie-tca> What happened to blue? or should I not be asking ;-)
[17:41] <nicofs> how can i change the appearance of only one of my panels? (background: transparent...)
[18:52] <likemindead> This channel's deader than MTV...
[18:52] <likemindead> ;-)
[18:53] <Sysi> xubuntu works too well
[18:53] <charlie-tca> +1
[18:54] <charlie-tca> That, and we don't know the answer
[18:54] <likemindead> Good answer, Sysi! :D
[18:55] <likemindead> I have a new hdd under the Xmas tree & I've been tempted to switch to UNE. But I love Xfce sooo much. I dunno...
[19:22] <mikubuntu> having trouble configuring wireless for intellinet driven receiver ... anybody have any links that might help us out?
[19:24] <charlie-tca> !wireless
[19:26] <mikubuntu> thx charlie i will check it out
[20:05] <vinny> hi. how can I get flash on opera for xubuntu on a PPC
[20:05] <vinny> ?
[20:05] <vinny> any help would be appreciated
[20:08] <likemindead> Have you installed the "xubuntu-restricted-extras" package, vinny?
[20:08] <likemindead> !flash
[20:09] <Sysi> i wonder if it's architechture dependant
[20:11] <vinny> by architecture dependent, do you mean the restricted extras
[20:11] <vinny> and no, I haven't downloaded the restricted extras
[20:12] <vinny> i just found it. I am going to do that now.
[20:18] <vinny> so i get the feeling restricted extras is not for PPC architecture
[20:18] <vinny> ...
[20:18] <Sysi> problem with restricted
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Might ask in #ubuntu-powerpc then, too
[20:18] <vinny> ah great
[20:19] <vinny> thanks for the heads up
[21:19] <John_Abbott> Hey
[21:19] <John_Abbott> Quicky here, How do I load a cd in Prompt mode on ubuntu?
[21:19] <charlie-tca> you mean, mount it?
[21:20] <John_Abbott> Yes
[21:20] <charlie-tca> create a directory for it, then use      mount /dev/cdrom /DIR_JUST_CREATED
[21:20] <charlie-tca> but it might be /dev/sr0 like mine is
[21:20] <John_Abbott> ...
[21:20] <charlie-tca> oh, put sudo in front of mount
[21:21] <John_Abbott> I have a actual disk.
[21:23] <Myrtti> !mount
[21:23]  * Myrtti facepalms
[21:23] <Myrtti> !iso
[21:24] <Myrtti> there we go
[21:25] <charlie-tca> Oh, sure, I could not have done that
[21:25] <Myrtti> but AFAIK even if it's totally headless system it should automount the cd
[21:25] <Myrtti> if it doesn't, IIRC iso9660 is the correct filesystem type
[21:27] <John_Abbott> GUYS.
[21:27] <John_Abbott> IT'S A DVD.
[21:27] <John_Abbott> ...< . >
[21:27] <charlie-tca> John_Abbott: it does not matter. Please don't shout at us
[21:27] <John_Abbott> I'm not trying to copy files to it, i'm trying to run files from it!
[21:28] <charlie-tca> and... does it not show up when you put it in the drive?
[21:28] <John_Abbott> It does, but I get a error.
[21:28] <charlie-tca> and the error is...
[21:28] <John_Abbott> Hold on.
[21:28] <John_Abbott> Lemme restart
[21:29] <Myrtti> mountpoint /cdrom does not exist, I suppose
[21:29] <John_Abbott> Ok, Can I just tell you? It's a windows 98 SE install disk.
[21:29] <John_Abbott> I'm trying different OS's on this computer.
[21:29] <charlie-tca> and it won't autostart in linux, right?
[21:29] <John_Abbott> Nope
[21:30] <Myrtti> it's not supposed to.
[21:30] <John_Abbott> When I click setup.exe
[21:30] <John_Abbott> ...what?
[21:30] <charlie-tca> because it is a windows cd.
[21:30] <John_Abbott> ...Drat
[21:30] <charlie-tca> Linux does not use an .exe file
[21:30] <John_Abbott> Is there any possible way to run it?
[21:30] <charlie-tca> start the computer with the cd in the drive?
[21:30] <John_Abbott> I do.
[21:31] <John_Abbott> Then it just boots Ubuntu
[21:31] <charlie-tca> change the bios to boot from cd
[21:31] <Myrtti> if you're willing to very probably erasing whatever you've got in the computer, reboot with the cd in the drive.
[21:31] <John_Abbott> Even when I select tboot the CD/
[21:31] <Myrtti> then there's always a possibility the CD is so scratched or damaged it won't boot.
[21:32] <John_Abbott> I just burned it -.-
[21:33] <charlie-tca> Help for windows in actually in ##windows
[21:33] <charlie-tca> As I recall, some of the win98 cd's require a floppy boot
[21:33] <John_Abbott> oh
[21:34] <charlie-tca> They needed DOS to boot the cd
[21:35] <John_Abbott> Drat
[21:35] <John_Abbott> It's a dvd. and I only have a cd and DVD drive
[21:35] <charlie-tca> and again, it doesn't matter to linux if it is a cd or dvd
[21:36] <charlie-tca> The only I can do is suggest you try ##windows for help with it.
[21:50] <Thermi> gn8
[23:26] <nicofs> how can i change the appearance of only one of my panels? (background: transparent...) Is there some conf file to do this?
[23:27] <charlie-tca> I don't think it is possible to only change one
[23:28] <nicofs> charlie-tca: from what i see they are managed in some sort of xml files... i found the xml to one of my panels.. if i could find the other one...