| rbelem | Riddell, ping | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | hi rbelem | 00:38 |
| rbelem | Riddell, I'm finishing now the ksambashare property ui | 00:39 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i made what you asked | 00:39 |
| rbelem | Riddell, what do you think is the best way to represent the user permission? | 00:40 |
| rbelem | Riddell, the permissions are | 00:40 |
| rbelem | full control | 00:40 |
| rbelem | read only | 00:41 |
| rbelem | and deny | 00:41 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i created a QTableWidget for it | 00:41 |
| Riddell | three options for each user? | 00:41 |
| rbelem | Riddell, yup | 00:41 |
| rbelem | and it can be just one of them | 00:42 |
| Riddell | why not just a QListWidget with checkable columns? | 00:43 |
| rbelem | Riddell, how to represent the options? | 00:44 |
| rbelem | combobox? | 00:44 |
| Riddell | if it's just an on/off option you can use checkboxes in the QListWidgetItem | 00:45 |
| Riddell | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qlistwidgetitem.html has checkable items | 00:45 |
| rbelem | hum... | 00:50 |
| rbelem | thx Riddell :-) | 01:38 |
| apachelogger | wow | 03:03 |
| apachelogger | I am the drunk | 03:03 |
| * apachelogger blames markey | 03:03 | |
| * apachelogger has problems hitting any key | 03:03 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Congratulations. | 03:06 |
| ScottK | BTW, kde4libs built on armel, so I just fired off approximately a bazillion retries. | 03:06 |
| apachelogger | yay | 03:08 |
| * apachelogger hugs ScottK | 03:08 | |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger is drunk? | 03:27 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 03:27 |
| * nigelb looks for the 'any' key :P | 03:35 | |
| valorie | I've looked for that for years | 03:39 |
| valorie | and never found it! | 03:39 |
| nigelb | haha | 03:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie: ping | 03:55 |
| valorie | hey DarkwingDuck | 03:57 |
| valorie | what's up? | 03:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie: You still up for documentation? | 03:59 |
| valorie | of course! | 04:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie: awesome. I have a smallish project :) | 04:00 |
| valorie | however, right now I'm hip-deep in Google Code-in and finishing the Amarok handbook | 04:00 |
| valorie | I'll look at what you have, however | 04:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhh | 04:00 |
| valorie | are we participating, as a project, in GCI? | 04:00 |
| valorie | it's been AWESOME | 04:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | GCI? I'm not. | 04:01 |
| valorie | so far | 04:01 |
| valorie | that's too bad | 04:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | No time. | 04:01 |
| valorie | it's like instant minions | 04:01 |
| valorie | and they swarm ya, looking for tasks! | 04:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | lol | 04:01 |
| valorie | oops, old dog | 04:01 |
| valorie | sec | 04:01 |
| valorie | poor old guy -- gotta put water in one end, and empty it out the other every couple of hourse | 04:07 |
| valorie | hours | 04:07 |
| valorie | so what's the smallish project? | 04:14 |
| ulysses | e | 05:36 |
| === mueslix is now known as muesli | ||
| === vorian is now known as birthday-vorian | ||
| === hrw|gone is now known as hrw | ||
| piquadrat | Hi! Is it possible that KDE 4.6 Beta 1 breaks ssh-add? I get "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent." since I installed Beta 1 | 08:21 |
| valorie | piquadrat: if you get no answer here, you might in #kde | 08:31 |
| piquadrat | valorie: thanks, I'll try it there | 08:36 |
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| Mamarok | apachelogger: are there already packages around of the new vlc backend version? | 10:29 |
| Mamarok | piquadrat: yes, that is a known problem | 10:30 |
| Mamarok | piquadrat: type ssh-agent and the paste the output of this command in the konsole | 10:30 |
| Mamarok | after that ssh-add should work | 10:30 |
| piquadrat | Mamarok: OK, thanks for the info! | 10:34 |
| Mamarok | piquadrat: you are welcome, thanks go to Quintasan_ who gave me the hint :) | 10:45 |
| Mamarok | piquadrat: hey, a Swiss Kubuntu user, nice :) | 10:46 |
| piquadrat | Mamarok: hehe | 10:48 |
| Riddell | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qlistwidgetitem.html has checkable items | 10:48 |
| Riddell | ? | 10:48 |
| markey | Riddell: is there a Qt Creator 2.1 package for Maverick somewhere? | 10:51 |
| markey | my Creator is failing to parse Calligra | 10:51 |
| markey | (I have 2.0.1) | 10:51 |
| Mamarok | markey: get the one from Qt, it has an easy installer | 10:51 |
| markey | I know, but I'd prefer a real package | 10:52 |
| Riddell | markey: yes but only alongside lots of other beta software like 4.6 beta https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta | 10:52 |
| markey | ah | 10:52 |
| markey | Riddell: do you think 4.6 beta is stable enough for daily use? | 10:52 |
| markey | it's my work machine | 10:52 |
| markey | can't have it crashing all the time | 10:53 |
| Riddell | works ok for me (but that's no guarantee) | 10:54 |
| markey | well, that's good enough then | 10:54 |
| markey | as long as the whole desktop won't crash all the time, I'm fine | 10:54 |
| markey | Mamarok: are you running 4.6? | 10:54 |
| Sput | only a few times an hour | 10:54 |
| Sput | quite acceptable | 10:54 |
| Sput | :) | 10:54 |
| markey | Sput: hehe. honestly? | 10:54 |
| Sput | no | 10:54 |
| markey | phew | 10:55 |
| Sput | I honestly can't remember the last time my desktop crashed (running trunk) | 10:55 |
| Sput | konqueror sometimes crashes though | 10:55 |
| markey | Sput: me neither, but Plasma likes to crash a lot | 10:55 |
| markey | and then auto-restarts | 10:55 |
| Sput | haven't seen plasma crash in ages | 10:55 |
| Sput | could as well be random plasmoids of course | 10:55 |
| markey | well, often you don't even notice it | 10:55 |
| markey | it reloads instantly | 10:55 |
| markey | they did that quite smartly | 10:55 |
| Sput | I don't use any non-standard plasmoids, and my plasma-desktop is rockstable | 10:56 |
| markey | yeah, granted, it got a lot more stable | 10:56 |
| markey | 4.4 crashed more | 10:56 |
| Mamarok | markey: yes | 10:57 |
| ulysses | markey: plasma-desktop crashes all the time for me, I use now plasma-netbook:'( | 11:00 |
| Mamarok | well, I had to remove the plasma config files in ~/.kde/share/config/, else plasma was eating over 50% of cpu | 11:01 |
| Mamarok | ulysses: tried that? | 11:01 |
| ulysses | Mamarok: not yet | 11:01 |
| Mamarok | so far I had that problem at every major KDE version upgrade | 11:01 |
| markey | Mamarok: yeah | 11:01 |
| Mamarok | no idea what the plasma people are doing | 11:01 |
| markey | it's very hard to handle the config foo correctly | 11:02 |
| markey | but yeah | 11:02 |
| markey | not nice | 11:02 |
| Mamarok | and I bet they don't test it as an upgrade, since they all run trunk | 11:02 |
| markey | Riddell: any plans for putting the process-grouping thing in Natty? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternative-to-200-lines-kernel-patch.html | 11:03 |
| markey | it works miracles here | 11:03 |
| markey | everything got faster :) | 11:03 |
| Mamarok | much faster, and we use SSDs here | 11:04 |
| ulysses | Mamarok: thanks, removing that directory helped | 11:05 |
| Mamarok | ulysses: you are welcome :) | 11:06 |
| Riddell | markey: I've no idea, it's an issue for linux people | 11:07 |
| markey | Riddell: no, actually it's exactly a distro issue | 11:19 |
| markey | because the userspace thing is better than the kernel patch | 11:19 |
| Mamarok | markey: btw, there is no QtCreator 2.1, at least not officially | 11:21 |
| Mamarok | it's RC for now | 11:23 |
| markey | Mamarok: good enough | 11:36 |
| Riddell | ** testers needed for KDE SC 4.6 Beta 2 | 11:58 |
| * Trouble digs out his ninjas ppa login from a backup... | 12:19 | |
| Riddell | Trouble: you're testing maverick or natty? | 12:19 |
| Trouble | Maverick | 12:20 |
| Riddell | great | 12:20 |
| Trouble | Right, downloading | 12:21 |
| Trouble | Now installing.. | 12:22 |
| Trouble | But I gotta run for a work Christmas lunch... so I'll report via the wiki when I'm back :D | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: I do not think so, feel free to harass a package ^^ | 12:57 |
| * apachelogger must have aged another 10 years last night | 12:57 | |
| apachelogger | looking very old today | 12:57 |
| maco | ScottK: by the way, i'm going to stop being a DCist soon | 13:00 |
| ScottK | maco: Right. Once you've graduated no doubt. | 13:03 |
| * Mamarok harasses apachelogger to provide a new package | 13:10 | |
| * apachelogger is upstream developer :P | 13:11 | |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: come on, you made an amarok package as well, which is a far bigger projct | 13:14 |
| Mamarok | project* | 13:14 |
| Mamarok | and who else than you could make the best package? | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | not in a long time | 13:15 |
| * apachelogger only packaged one package the last month or so | 13:15 | |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | <-- terrible packager | 13:15 |
| markey | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta | 13:16 |
| markey | is that really correct? | 13:16 |
| markey | synaptic does not let me add it | 13:16 |
| markey | apachelogger: got source line for KDE 4.6 Beta repo? | 13:16 |
| markey | wanna try it here, I need Creator 2.1 | 13:17 |
| Riddell | ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta | 13:17 |
| markey | thanks Riddell | 13:17 |
| markey | Riddell: it still does not show me any KDE upgrades | 13:23 |
| markey | "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta maverick main" | 13:24 |
| markey | is that correct? | 13:24 |
| Riddell | markey: just ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta | 13:24 |
| markey | ah ok | 13:25 |
| markey | thx again | 13:25 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | o/ | 13:25 |
| yofel | Riddell: where did you put amarok 2.4 for maverick again? I don't see the packages in the beta ppa | 13:26 |
| Riddell | mm, should be there | 13:26 |
| Riddell | "[PPA kubuntu-ppa-beta] amarok_2.3.90-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1_source.changes rejected" fooey | 13:28 |
| Riddell | ok reuploaded | 13:29 |
| Riddell | well spotted yofel | 13:29 |
| yofel | saw some people on identi.ca that were confused since they didn't find it | 13:29 |
| Riddell | oh great, bug reports via identica | 13:30 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 13:31 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: ping | 13:31 |
| Riddell | hi _Groo_ | 13:31 |
| yofel | hey _Groo_ | 13:31 |
| _Groo_ | could anyone explain to me why is kde admin in kubuntu ppa updates with the 4.5.85 version? | 13:32 |
| _Groo_ | hi Riddell , yofel | 13:32 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: did you copy there by mistake? | 13:32 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: or is correct? | 13:32 |
| Riddell | ug | 13:32 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: lol :D i figured :D | 13:32 |
| _Groo_ | i was doing the daily updates and when it showed up, i thought, wtf... | 13:33 |
| Riddell | I'll delete it | 13:34 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: the thing is.. for those who updated it.. it wont revert, right? | 13:34 |
| Riddell | no :( | 13:35 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: will you have to bump the version something like 5:4.4.5 to force the upgrade (downgrade actually) | 13:35 |
| yofel | just upload as 4.5.85~really4.5.4 :P | 13:35 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: ahhh thats whats that about | 13:35 |
| Riddell | as yofel says | 13:35 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i always wondered ;) | 13:35 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: but we could bump the version also, right? teoretically | 13:36 |
| yofel | _Groo_: theoretically yes, but you'll have to keep that for all future versions of the package too, no fun | 13:36 |
| Riddell | that would stop future upgrades | 13:36 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: yeah i know, it was just a doubt of mine, | 13:36 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: ok wheres my cookie? | 13:36 |
| _Groo_ | im like 3 cookie behind already! | 13:37 |
| Riddell | you'll get a credit in the announce on kubuntu.org this time I promise :) | 13:37 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: lol, NO! i want my cookie! | 13:38 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: send me cookies! | 13:38 |
| * _Groo_ demands cookies! | 13:38 | |
| _Groo_ | the bot used to give cookies :D | 13:39 |
| * yofel sends _Groo_ his empty cookie box | 13:39 | |
| _Groo_ | anyway, if i can help this weekend with beta 2 i will | 13:39 |
| yofel | the only one that has full ones is kubotu | 13:39 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: grrrr | 13:39 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: apachelogger rapped the poor bot! | 13:39 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: beta 2 is done, we just need testers now | 13:39 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: ahh i was late this time :P | 13:39 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: damn proxy at work :P | 13:40 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: i didnt open ninjas ppa yet, does kdebindings even compile? even without some modules? | 13:40 |
| Riddell | yes yofel got kdebindings to compile | 13:40 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: huuu really? :D its complete then? | 13:40 |
| _Groo_ | kde 4.6 i mean | 13:41 |
| _Groo_ | does the printer applet work? | 13:41 |
| yofel | we're waiting for akashay with kdetoys, but that's all | 13:41 |
| Riddell | printer applet? of course it works, I coded it therefor it works! | 13:41 |
| _Groo_ | did you guys changed the deps so it tries to rip off hal and install udisk/etc? | 13:41 |
| yofel | yes | 13:42 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: :P its not her faults, its pykde faults XD | 13:42 |
| Riddell | hal is no longer a recommend | 13:42 |
| yofel | well, it won't try to remove hal by itself | 13:42 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: thats the trick, for natty is fine but for maverick if we are upgrading the system it should try to do that at least | 13:42 |
| yofel | well, I can run system-config-printer fine here in beta2 which was pyKDE iirc | 13:43 |
| _Groo_ | can hal and udisk live side by side? | 13:43 |
| yofel | sure | 13:43 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: hmm ok, im gonna upgrade in a few hours then, and tell my horror stories here | 13:43 |
| _Groo_ | should i use ninja or backports? | 13:43 |
| yofel | ninjas, beta still has 80 | 13:44 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: k, ill add it again and try an upgrade dugin lunch time, around 2 hours from now | 13:45 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: it should be quick, i have a 100MB connection here | 13:45 |
| yofel | :D | 13:45 |
| _Groo_ | i work for a cell phone company :D | 13:46 |
| _Groo_ | actually its fiber optics but my local ethernet is 10/100 so i can only go as up as ;) | 13:46 |
| * Riddell uploads 4.6 beta 2 to natty | 13:46 | |
| yofel | \o/ | 13:46 |
| ulysses | \o/ | 13:47 |
| Riddell | if we could get someone to test it on maverick then I could copy it across | 13:50 |
| ScottK | Riddell: More koffice trouble on arm: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60316062/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.koffice_1:2.2.91-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 13:53 |
| Riddell | tsk, qReal again | 13:54 |
| Riddell | you'd think since there's a commercial product from KOffice on ARM they'd be more careful | 13:55 |
| Riddell | will look later | 13:55 |
| markey | Riddell: upgrade worked fine :) | 13:56 |
| markey | very smooth | 13:56 |
| Riddell | phew | 13:56 |
| markey | that said, KDE 4.6 looks exactly like 4.5 | 13:56 |
| markey | almost | 13:56 |
| markey | can't see great differences | 13:56 |
| ScottK | I gave MoDaX a ping on #debian-qt-kde to see if we can get some help on the symbols stuff. | 13:56 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: im gonna test it on maverick, let me download the packages :D | 13:59 |
| _Groo_ | could you guys do a little test for me? | 13:59 |
| _Groo_ | i need someone with nvidia + chromium | 14:00 |
| _Groo_ | and kde of course | 14:00 |
| _Groo_ | its painless and real quick | 14:00 |
| jussi | _Groo_: if no one has got it by the time I get home in a few hours... | 14:01 |
| _Groo_ | preferably with 2.56 or 260 driver | 14:01 |
| _Groo_ | you just need to fire up chromium with the gpu flags active (in about:flags) and see your xorgs memory go up exponentially :P | 14:03 |
| _Groo_ | aparently kwin is messing up vdpau and gpu acceleration with chromium and/or movies | 14:03 |
| _Groo_ | messing in the sense of memory leaks | 14:03 |
| _Groo_ | but the strange thing is that it affects xorg, not kwin itself | 14:04 |
| === Trouble is now known as JustinTrouble | ||
| _Groo_ | could anyone confirm this? | 14:04 |
| _Groo_ | is fancytasks and quickacess updated for 4.6? | 14:08 |
| _Groo_ | are* | 14:08 |
| _Groo_ | i use both and aptitude wants to remove them | 14:08 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: they probably need a rebuild | 14:09 |
| _Groo_ | k, im gonna take notes of whats is getting ripped, can i rebuild them and add them to the ppa later? | 14:10 |
| ulysses | _Groo_: I think smooth-tasks needs a rebuild too, it crashes 4.6 beta1 | 14:10 |
| _Groo_ | ulysses: dont use that one | 14:11 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: sure | 14:11 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: are you testing maverick? | 14:11 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: yep, my main machine | 14:13 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: if it breaks and i cant work, ill personally blame you :D | 14:13 |
| JustinTrouble | _Groo_: I've already installed on Maverick and it's working gooooood :) | 14:13 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: i know ;) i like to joke around :D | 14:14 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: do you have nvidia? | 14:14 |
| JustinTrouble | Unfortunately I do :-/ | 14:14 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: prop driver? | 14:14 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: 256/260? | 14:15 |
| JustinTrouble | Yeaha! | 14:15 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: do you have chromium? | 14:15 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: open chromium, about:flags, enable gpu acceleration (2 options), before that, open yakuake and top, and see how much memory xorg is using | 14:17 |
| JustinTrouble | _Groo_: I don't have Chronium. I have an nVidia Quadro FX 570 | 14:17 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: hmmm it happens with vdpau too, but it yakes longer :P | 14:17 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: with chromium its instant | 14:17 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Is there a reason you updated meta-kde in Natty to 4.5.85, but kde4libs isn't uploaded (this will now break any further armel retries on kde sc modules) | 14:17 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: nvm then :) | 14:17 |
| JustinTrouble | _Groo_: I have massive graphical slow down after a days usage, but haven't a chance to look in to it yet | 14:17 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: its xorg.. theres a memory leak with kwin + nvidia + gpu.. it doesnt show up with compiz, or it not that aparent | 14:18 |
| JustinTrouble | _Groo_: If I reset the PixmapCache is makes it better temporarily | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: he starts eating memory like theres no tomorrow | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | JustinTrouble: how do i do that? | 14:19 |
| _Groo_ | to test here | 14:19 |
| JustinTrouble | _Groo_: Run "nvidia-settings -a PixmapCache=0 && nvidia-settings -a PixmapCache=1" from the command line | 14:19 |
| _Groo_ | huuu nice, let me see | 14:19 |
| JustinTrouble | Good luck :D | 14:19 |
| _Groo_ | it appears to make it a little better... im gonna bug the nvidia guys | 14:20 |
| _Groo_ | brb | 14:20 |
| _Groo_ | but its definitely something between kwin + nvidia | 14:20 |
| Riddell | ScottK: the whole of 4.5.85 is being uploaded, just limited by my bandwidth | 14:32 |
| ScottK | Ah. OK. | 14:33 |
| ScottK | Riddell: As soon as kde4libs hits we ought to have it rescored on armel so we minimize the breakage there. | 14:33 |
| droidslayer | Riddell: did aakshay show up yet? ... he caught me at college and asked everything about pbuilders for 3 hours :P | 14:35 |
| JustinTrouble | _Groo_: Agreed! | 14:38 |
| Riddell | droidslayer: no | 14:38 |
| JustinTrouble | Blimey, didn't realise it was actually 4.6 beta 2 release day today! | 14:38 |
| === droidslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ | ||
| JustinTrouble | That came around quick :) | 14:39 |
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as Guest18929 | ||
| === Guest18929 is now known as droidslayer | ||
| Riddell | JustinTrouble: so maverick 4.6 beta 2 from ninjas working for you? | 14:55 |
| JustinTrouble | Aye Riddell, it is thank you | 14:56 |
| JustinTrouble | Been using it solidly for the last hour | 14:56 |
| Riddell | great, thanks | 14:57 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: did you test maverick? | 14:57 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: updating | 14:57 |
| Riddell | ooh http://dot.kde.org/2010/12/08/canonical-donates-server-kde | 14:57 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: should be over in 45 min | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: for an @kde.org mail addy one files a ticket with the sysadmins? | 15:00 |
| _Groo_ | ok this one is new :D | 15:33 |
| _Groo_ | W: Bizarre Error - File size is not what the server reported 19523 9762 | 15:33 |
| _Groo_ | errors are bizarre now! in apt! | 15:33 |
| agateau | Riddell: I like how you sound surprised by dot articles you write yourself :) | 15:34 |
| _Groo_ | my notebook is a i7 with 4 cores (8 virtual) 1TB 2 hds, im better then that server XD | 15:35 |
| _Groo_ | AH! | 15:36 |
| yofel | meh, you've got better hardware than me :/ | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | agateau: lol | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | imagine a workstation of _Groo_'s | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | that might easily have more useless resources than mine ^^ | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | KCrash: Application 'kwin' crashing... | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | fancy | 15:55 |
| JustinTrouble | How rare | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | aha | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | wow | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | python eats my phone | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | hooray | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | this is awesome | 16:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It's starting to look to me like your kde4libs upload didn't make it ... | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | Exit message has been set to: "PVRShell: Unable to initialise EGL | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | ". | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | PVRShell: EGL Error (EGL_BAD_DISPLAY) | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | argh!!!!!!!! | 16:16 |
| yofel | nice, k3b segfaults on natty | 16:16 |
| * yofel loves that drkonqi now scrolls to the relevant thread when retracing :D | 16:17 | |
| ScottK | Ah. There it is. | 16:36 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: its not a workstation is a kick ass notebook :D with a nvidia g230m with 1GB dedicated ram also :D | 16:42 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: and a 17'' lcd display | 16:42 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: the little beast is BIG | 16:42 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: actually LED display not lcd | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 16:45 |
| * apachelogger triggered a nerdgasm | 16:46 | |
| apachelogger | meh | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | . | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | mine is a 600mhz cortex A8 | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | with pvr sgx | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | 256mb ram | 16:47 |
| Riddell | yofel: amd64? | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | 3.5 inch display | 16:47 |
| yofel | Riddell: yes | 16:48 |
| Riddell | yofel: mm, it does seem to on amd64, havn't looked into why | 16:48 |
| yofel | tried to rebuild against 4.5.85, didn't help, installing hal doesn't either | 16:49 |
| Riddell | it might trigger a crash in the new solid stuff | 16:49 |
| yofel | it does indeed seem so from the trace, sec | 16:49 |
| yofel | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541056/ | 16:50 |
| Riddell | Solid::Block::device (this=0x0) at ../../../solid/solid/block.cpp:52 | 16:51 |
| Riddell | yes, something bad in the new solid | 16:51 |
| Riddell | yofel: do report that upstream on solid | 16:51 |
| yofel | seems fixed upstream | 16:52 |
| Riddell | yofel: why do you think that? | 16:52 |
| yofel | kde bug 249371 | 16:52 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 249371 in general "K3b crashed when trying to open from kmenu/application launcher menu" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=249371 | 16:52 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: did you get maverick tested? | 16:53 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: updating as we speak | 16:53 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: the only problem so far was with my own hupnp, so its updating cleanly | 16:54 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: still upgrading the system... huuugge | 17:01 |
| * yofel had >400 updates with natty, not only KDE though | 17:02 | |
| === hrw is now known as hrw|gone | ||
| apachelogger | ScottK: when do we get a n900 compatible kernel? | 17:14 |
| ScottK | Not sure. | 17:15 |
| ScottK | Just got the base omap3 kernel in. | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | I see | 17:16 |
| * apachelogger tries to hook dkms up with the meego kernel | 17:16 | |
| apachelogger | I am this close to getting opengles going!!! | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | only a stupid segfault (supposedly because of kernel module stuff) is standing in my way | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | /var/lib/dkms/powervr-omap3/3.01.00.07/build/services4/3rdparty/bufferclass_ti/bc_cat.c:491: error: implicit declaration of function 'omap_rev_lt_3_0' | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | meh | 17:23 |
| Riddell | hmm, no Groo | 17:29 |
| Riddell | worrying | 17:30 |
| yofel | Riddell: did you upload kdeadmin 4.5.4 again? | 17:52 |
| Riddell | yofel: not yet | 17:53 |
| Riddell | if you are able to do it please do | 17:53 |
| Riddell | needs 4.5.85really4.5.4-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 version number. lovely | 17:53 |
| yofel | then I'll do it, the package is still in the pool | 17:53 |
| yofel | geh, I'll have to rename the orig.tar too -.- | 17:57 |
| yofel | done | 18:00 |
| CIA-24 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1204696 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) Add some new functions: recommendsList(), suggestsList(), enhancesList() and enhancedByList() to return QStringLists of the names of packages that have various relational statuses with the Package | 18:38 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i.imgur.com/0pW6K.png | 18:54 |
| JontheEchidna | MSC can't install addons yet, but it can display them now | 18:55 |
| yofel | cool ^^ | 18:58 |
| ulysses | like | 18:58 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: k, it worked | 19:00 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: but i had to remove hal, it was breaking powerdevil... also powerdevil doesnt control my brightenss anymroe :( do i need to install anytjing else, besides upower and udisks? | 19:00 |
| yofel | brightness is broken here too | 19:01 |
| yofel | and hal BROKE powerdevil o.O? | 19:01 |
| ScottK | More like lack of it. | 19:03 |
| ScottK | Please file bugs with upstream. | 19:03 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: not broken, powerdevil would show two bateries, and some weird behaviour, hal was fighting upower | 19:04 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Did you remove hal then? | 19:05 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: yep | 19:05 |
| _Groo_ | which removed some qt libs | 19:05 |
| ScottK | It did? | 19:06 |
| ScottK | Which? | 19:06 |
| _Groo_ | and kde-standard | 19:06 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: let me check | 19:06 |
| ScottK | kde-standard is a Debianism, so I'm not suprised. | 19:06 |
| _Groo_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/541106 | 19:08 |
| _Groo_ | also, fancytasks is completely broken in kde 4.6, needs to be sent bug upstream to the author... after recompiled it doesnt work anymore, all broken | 19:09 |
| === PascalFR is now known as NemoFR | ||
| _Groo_ | i also disabled filewatch, it will kill my I/O everytime i log, i know its a known "feature" but until some kernel based inotify system that works is developer, filewatch isnt going to be enabld | 19:10 |
| === NemoFR is now known as PascalFR | ||
| ScottK | _Groo_: kde-standard is the only thing there that depends on hal, so I think there's no hal related suprises there. | 19:11 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: Sounds like mabye we ought to disable filewatch by default. | 19:12 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: so i can reinstall the qt stuff and leave kde-standard alone? | 19:12 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 19:12 |
| ScottK | It shouldn't pull hal back in. | 19:12 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: i agree, filewatch works but its a resource hog | 19:12 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: hal is still downloaded with the above list, the qt ones call hal allright | 19:14 |
| ScottK | Weird. | 19:14 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: try this: apt-fast install libqtcontacts1 libqtlocation1 libqtmessaging1 libqtmultimediakit1 libqtopiamail1 libqtpublishsubscribe1 libqtsensors1 libqtserviceframework1 libqtsysteminfo1 libqtversit1 qtmobility-dev servicefw | 19:14 |
| _Groo_ | it will call hal | 19:14 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: libqtserviceframework1 on Maverick. | 19:16 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: no i need it for anything? | 19:16 |
| ScottK | Right. | 19:16 |
| ScottK | There in natty too. | 19:16 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: even without framework it still calls hal :P | 19:17 |
| ScottK | qtmobility-dev depends on libqtserviceframework1 | 19:17 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: ah ok | 19:17 |
| ScottK | There's nothing on that list that's needed for a standard Kubuntu install | 19:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: We ought to see if we can arrange for libqtserviceframework1 not to depend on hal. | 19:18 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: and the others need, and so on and so on, they are all interdependent | 19:18 |
| ScottK | Right. | 19:18 |
| _Groo_ | besides that it works fairly well | 19:19 |
| _Groo_ | quick acess is broken too :P | 19:30 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: ^^^ | 19:33 |
| ScottK | Does it just need a rebuild? | 19:33 |
| JontheEchidna | worksforme (tm) | 19:33 |
| ScottK | _Groo_: For quickaccess, we need a little more definition on 'broken'. | 19:34 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: it compiles, you can add it to the panel but when you click on it it doesnt show the contents of the folder | 19:49 |
| _Groo_ | guys im getting a lot of this: kde(21546)/kdeui (KIconLoader): Trying to remove an entry which is already invalid. This cache is likely corrupt. | 20:01 |
| _Groo_ | lots of it.. where can i remove the cache to be rebuild? | 20:01 |
| _Groo_ | anyone? | 20:08 |
| yofel | IIRC the icon cache was in /var/tmp, let me try first, I'm getting those too | 20:09 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: k | 20:12 |
| yofel | seems they're gone after purging kdecache | 20:16 |
| _Groo_ | is kmail working in 4.6 maverick? | 20:18 |
| Trouble | Time to install beta 2 on my laptop | 20:18 |
| _Groo_ | it said it migrated my account (although i found it to be very fast, maybe he didnt?), but it doesnt show up, no trayicon, no nothing, but the process is up | 20:19 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: found it? | 20:31 |
| yofel | _Groo_: I just purged /var/tmp/kdecache-yofel and let the cache be regenerated on login | 20:32 |
| yofel | seems like the messages are gone | 20:32 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: it worked? | 20:32 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: k, do you use kmail? | 20:32 |
| yofel | no thunderbird | 20:32 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: ah | 20:33 |
| _Groo_ | anyone using kmail and kde 4.6 beta 2? | 20:33 |
| yofel | kmail 4.5.85 seems to work here in natty, just looks bad as ever with my colorscheme | 20:35 |
| yofel | er, how do I quit kmail without killing it? The icon is gone.. | 20:41 |
| * yofel shoots it | 20:42 | |
| _Groo_ | yofel: here he doesnt show up, but im behind a proxy, maybe with akonadi he now waits for pop acess and sits there.. silly kmail.. gonna retest at home | 20:45 |
| yofel | hm, I'm using IMAP and it works | 20:46 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: yeah just checked,m he uses akonadi_pop3 now.. aparently if you are behind a proxy he stays in a "stupid" state and never shows kmail, gonna retest at home | 20:50 |
| _Groo_ | seeya guys later | 20:50 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: upgrade went fine | 20:50 |
| yofel | cu | 20:50 |
| eMyller | hey | 20:56 |
| eMyller | did anyone see problems with depmod in latest kernel update? | 20:56 |
| yofel | if you mean 37-8 that works fine here | 20:58 |
| eMyller | natty? | 21:00 |
| eMyller | i'm on maverick, 25-24 | 21:01 |
| eMyller | * trying to install 25-24 | 21:01 |
| yofel | hm, let me wake up my maverick machine | 21:03 |
| amichair | I just upgraded using the kubuntu updates ppa and it said packages like kdebase-workspace, kubuntu-desktop, plasma-desktop were removed. After a reboot a I get a blank screen after logoff. Is this a packaging bug or a problem in my setup? | 21:08 |
| amichair | s/logoff/logon/ | 21:08 |
| yofel | if plasma-desktop was removed you're bound to get a blank screen, that's not supposed to be removed, can you pastebin your /var/log/apt/history.log ? | 21:10 |
| yofel | amichair: can you try to install kubuntu-desktop again, that should install everything again | 21:10 |
| yofel | amichair: also, you upgraded from where to where, or did you just install updates? which release? | 21:12 |
| amichair | yofel: it's actually a fresh install of maverick from this afternoon, without anything out of the ordinary I can think of. I just added the ppa now, and apt-get updated&upgraded. | 21:13 |
| amichair | (on a netboook) | 21:13 |
| eMyller | yofel: got this while trying to manually configure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541155 | 21:15 |
| yofel | I'll try, seems like /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common errors | 21:16 |
| yofel | amichair: odd, can you get me your history? | 21:16 |
| amichair | yofel: installing kubuntu-desktop indeed fixed it. | 21:16 |
| amichair | what do u mean by history? | 21:16 |
| yofel | /var/log/apt/history.log | 21:16 |
| amichair | yofel: where should I send to? | 21:17 |
| yofel | pastebin it | 21:17 |
| eMyller | yofel: i just removed nvidia-common (actually i don't even need it) and the upgrade ran smoothly. | 21:18 |
| amichair | yofel: btw I also have unsupported updates checked in software-properties-kde | 21:18 |
| eMyller | maybe this should be reported somewhere else... | 21:18 |
| yofel | amichair: you mean maverick-backports? | 21:19 |
| amichair | yofel: if that's what the checkbox for 'Unsupported Updates' means :-) | 21:19 |
| yofel | not sure myself, let me check | 21:20 |
| yofel | yep, should be backports, but I just did an i386 update test and got the same: | 21:21 |
| yofel | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 21:21 |
| yofel | kdebase-workspace-bin kubuntu-desktop plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-netbook plasma-widgets-workspace | 21:21 |
| yofel | NOT good | 21:21 |
| yofel | aptitude does it right though o.O | 21:22 |
| amichair | I guess if u can recreate it it's a good thing... sorta ;-) | 21:23 |
| amichair | yofel: I guess you'll be able to take it from here - thanks! | 21:26 |
| yofel | works fine on amd64 which is probably why it didn't show in MY update tests | 21:26 |
| amichair | yofel: let me know if there's anything else that might be helpful | 21:26 |
| amichair | hmmm yep this happened on a netbook (i386), the desktop amd64 (with an long upgrade path history) didn't get the bug | 21:27 |
| yofel | don't have time to look at this more right now, filed it as bug 687551 | 21:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 687551 in Kubuntu PPA "installing updates on i386 maverick wants to remove plasma-desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687551 | 21:37 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, internet outages stink | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ping | 22:25 |
| CIA-24 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1204742 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.cpp Do not put virtual packages in to the recommends/suggest/enhances lists, otherwise we get the weird "pipenightdreams" package that Muon somehow identifies as being the ATI binary video driver. :s | 22:26 |
| JontheEchidna | By Stallman's beard the APT API is bad | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | and alien is the crap | 22:26 |
| * apachelogger doesnt get it to spit out files | 22:26 | |
| JontheEchidna | it took me 20 minutes to find out how to figure out if a package was virtual or not | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | because there is a different way with each of the 3 or 4 iterators | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | that is pretty bad alright | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | binary package cache -> mmap. So far so good | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | -> add 3 or 4 iterators across the mmap to gain all knowledge about packages. FAIL | 22:28 |
| JontheEchidna | well at least pipenightdreams is no longer polluting the recommends list of every package with a virtual recommend | 22:29 |
| JontheEchidna | I'd use an APT2 that had something like the QApt API (cstring based for toolkit neutrality) | 22:31 |
| JontheEchidna | of course I'd immediately write a thin Qt wrapper to get a QString API, but... ;-) | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 22:32 |
| JontheEchidna | oh lawd, somebody stop me before I continue having delusions of rewriting APT | 22:32 |
| * apachelogger holds back on the stopping and supports the delusionism ^^ | 22:32 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh, and on the topic of c-strings | 22:33 |
| * apachelogger grows ever so grumpy with alien and wants to sue somebody | 22:33 | |
| JontheEchidna | I really, really hate libraries that return null cstring pointers | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: does that not make all sorts of sense? | 22:33 |
| JontheEchidna | is there any way to do empty cstrings? | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | no | 22:35 |
| JontheEchidna | meh | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | empty string == '\0' | 22:35 |
| JontheEchidna | then yeah, I guess it makes sense | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | which still needs memory allocated | 22:35 |
| JontheEchidna | well, I'm not even concerned about the memory consumption | 22:35 |
| JontheEchidna | just return it \0 | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | you need to malloc it | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | otherwise you get a dangling pointer outside | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | so it is not really about the consumption but about the time it requires to get the heap memory | 22:36 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: But you knew you were making qapt to wrap the suckage and hide it away. Just embrace the suck. | 22:37 |
| JontheEchidna | that's true | 22:37 |
| JontheEchidna | I just like to complain I guess :P | 22:37 |
| ScottK | Lingering teenage tendencies. | 22:38 |
| * apachelogger needs to consult with the elders of kubuntu | 22:38 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: what does one do when alien does not spit out debs? :P | 22:39 |
| JontheEchidna | I really like QLatin1String | 22:39 |
| JontheEchidna | you can safely pass it a null c-string pointer | 22:39 |
| JontheEchidna | and it's not that much more overhead compared to the bare c-string | 22:39 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I never wanted it to spit out debs. I only used it with -tgz because then it makes a tarball with the patches on the outside where I can find them and steal them. | 22:39 |
| JontheEchidna | especially if you're going to use it as a QString in a GUI anyways | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | hm | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | rsalveti confirmed my suspicion that the meego kernel and our propriatry opengels stuff for omap3 is not going well together | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | so we concluded that maybe installing the meego libs might fix that | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | of course for that I'd first need to alien them | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | so now not only the kernel is in my way of getting gles working but also stupid alien | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | ... | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | that happens when you write software in perl | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | it just does not work | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | :P | 22:41 |
| * apachelogger throws alien after DarkwingDuck :P | 22:41 | |
| ulysses | Lokalize crashes when I press backspace -.- | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you and kronos continue work yesterday? | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: dont press backspace then? | 22:42 |
| ulysses | apachelogger: :P | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | maybe you need to switch to insert mode | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | if you press backspace in vim and you are not in insert all hell breaks loose too | 22:43 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: nope, he never asked for help. | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | so I suppose the task was a bit too much | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | that is because Riddell is spoiling the minions :P | 22:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | an alien? I love aliens apachelogger | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | everyone loves me, that is not the point... | 22:50 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Progress is being made on the kernel. I checked in with the developer after you asked today. | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | awesome | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: you are not member of https://launchpad.net/~we-love-harald | 22:51 |
| apachelogger | omg!!!! | 22:51 |
| * apachelogger would really like to get a working prototype of kubuntu mobile today -.- | 22:51 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: when to use techbase and when to use community.kde.org? | 23:00 |
| Nightrose | wiki.kde.org can help | 23:01 |
| Nightrose | or you tell me what you want to put there | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | uhhh | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | this is all getting confusing ^^ | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: wondering where to ditch phonon internal development stuff things | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | roadmap and todos etc. | 23:02 |
| Nightrose | community | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | kthx | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: tutorials and examples go to techbase? | 23:02 |
| Nightrose | depends if they're for 3rd party devs or for users | 23:02 |
| Nightrose | users -> userbase | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | yeah, 3rd party | 23:03 |
| * apachelogger understands the wiki structure again \\o/ | 23:03 | |
| * apachelogger hugs Nightrose | 23:03 | |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 23:03 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: but of course I am | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | you were not | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | that is cheating | 23:07 |
| * apachelogger feels the need to file a removal request for alien | 23:07 | |
| kuvu | I suggest "Thank you for choosing Kubuntu" is more appropriate since it looks like it's hard to get the number right | 23:21 |
| kuvu | It happened before and it's still is | 23:22 |
| kuvu | in the slide show | 23:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: pong | 23:33 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: nvm | 23:34 |
| yofel | Riddell: any idea what would cause bug 687551 or do you know how to tell apt it's reason for removing them? I'm a bit out of ideas since aptitude works fine | 23:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 687551 in Kubuntu PPA "installing updates on i386 maverick wants to remove plasma-desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687551 | 23:35 |
| yofel | *how to tell apt to tell me it's reason for removing them | 23:36 |
| kuvu | yofel: dependencies | 23:36 |
| yofel | well, but most people fixed it by installing kubuntu-desktop immediately after that, so the deps can't be that broken, aptitude work fine and amd64 isn't affected | 23:38 |
| Riddell | yofel: let it do its thing then see what happens when you try to install kdebase-workspace-bin | 23:38 |
| yofel | k, sec | 23:38 |
| yofel | The following packages will be REMOVED: libweather-ion4a | 23:40 |
| yofel | The following NEW packages will be installed: kdebase-workspace-bin libweather-ion5 plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-widgets-workspace | 23:40 |
| Riddell | I do dislike library transitions | 23:41 |
| Riddell | well my upgrade is going fine | 23:47 |
| yofel | Riddell: i386 or amd64? | 23:47 |
| Riddell | yofel: oh you're doing kubuntu-ppa updates, I thought you were doing ninjas | 23:48 |
| yofel | nope, that's maverick updates, which is why it's rather bad | 23:48 |
| yofel | only happens with i386 apt-get, aptitude or amd64 apt do the right thing | 23:49 |
| apachelogger | oh wellz | 23:49 |
| apachelogger | I do not see this going anywhere | 23:49 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: without kernel I doubt we will ever get opengles going | 23:49 |
| apachelogger | tried with meego's gles stack which requires their fbdev xorg driver which segfaults on our X | 23:50 |
| Riddell | yofel: you didn't have some plasmoid that was keeping libweather-ion4a installed? | 23:53 |
| yofel | Riddell: that's a clean maverick i386 pbuilder chroot where I installed kubuntu-desktop -> add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa -> apt-get dist-upgrade | 23:54 |
| Riddell | mm, strange | 23:54 |
| Riddell | you can run apt-get with verbose output and it'll tell you its reasoning | 23:54 |
| Riddell | then you need to get someone who understands how apt reasons to explain it | 23:55 |
| * yofel retries | 23:55 | |
| yofel | huh? libweather-ion4a (4.5.1-0ubuntu8 => 4.5.2-0ubuntu1~ppa1) | 23:57 |
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