[00:06] <Sentynel> okay, so I've got two monitors connected to my computer, configured in the nvidia x server settings and stuff. both monitors are working, I can move my mouse between them, add widgets, panels etc to the second... but I can't work out how to actually move windows to the other screen, or open them on that screen
[00:12] <ads> morning
[00:13] <ads> I've got a problem with NetworkManager: dhcp is requesting a dns server, the dhcp server is providing the dns server, but NetworkManager does not add the nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf. It does add the "search" value, if provided. What's wrong?
[00:28] <Sentynel> well that wasn't very successful; tried enabling xinerama, rebooted, and kdm wouldn't start properly
[00:28] <yofel> Ginbuntu: if you installed it from the PPA, you can use 'ppa-purge' (needs to be installed first) to downgrade the packages
[00:28] <yofel> I'm not sure if the configuration files will work fine with 4.5 though, since downgrades don't get tested
[00:28] <Sentynel> both screens blinked on and off every couple of seconds; eventually (by holding ctrl+alt+f2 for a while) I managed to drop out to text-only mode and restore a backup xorg.conf
[00:31]  * Sentynel tries nvidia twinview instead
[01:44] <Boom_Farmer> After a playing minecraft for a while, plasma-desktop expands to take up more than a gig of memory. It does this randomly and without warning, slowing down the machine. If I kill plasma-desktop and restart it, the computer will speed back up, but it's annoying. Does anyone know why this happens or how I can fix it?
[02:09] <ScottyK> I upgraded to KDE 4.5.4 this weekend, and then shut off the computer. went to turn it on today, and after logging on, just get the blue wallpaper background. nothing else loads. Went to recovery mode, and fixed broken packages, then rebooted. still can't get in, suggestions?
[02:36] <ironfroggy_> I have an install of 10.10 that has been sitting at 77% for over ten minutes. anything i can do to cleanly retry?
[02:38] <jordan> yoou may have a bad sector
[02:38] <jordan> im a noob
[02:38] <jordan> iron, not that i know of
[02:38] <jordan> you already been writing on your partition
[02:39] <jordan> find out what hard rive brand you have
[02:39] <jordan> drive*
[02:40] <ironfroggy_> its a branch new machine. just unpacked it.
[02:40] <ironfroggy_> i'd be pissed.
[02:40] <ironfroggy_> oh, suddenly it says its done.
[02:40] <jordan> your company should have software that can see if theres anything wrong with your hard drive
[02:40] <harleen> hi
[02:40] <ironfroggy_> from 77% to done in <1sec
[02:40] <harleen> do people watch television?
[02:41] <jordan> good :)
[02:41] <jordan> harl, sometimes
[02:43] <jordan> iron, have you try uploading your os?
[02:43] <jordan> booting up i mean
[04:00] <bdizzle> hi, anyone here familiar with working with the /etc/hosts file?
[04:02] <Snowhog> bdizzle: What's your question?
[04:03] <bbeck_> I notice that amarok 2.4 beta has been announced, but I'm not able to find it. apt-get update/grade doesn't show it as an upgrade item.  Has anyone else been able to get it?
[04:03] <bdizzle> I usually use firefox as my browser and was wondering if there was a way to auto-retrieve the IP addresses of websites I usually visit and insert them and the DNS into the hosts file?
[04:03] <bdizzle> I'm trying to learn how to build my own hosts file
[04:03] <bdizzle> err, DNS system
[04:04] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle: bear in mind that reading a large hosts file impacts the time it takes to load a website.
[04:04] <bdizzle> I know
[04:04] <bdizzle> I'll comment most of it out if I'm not using it
[04:05] <bbeck_> I would imagine though reading a host file even a large one, would be faster than querying a domain server.  though that's just a guess
[04:06] <GabrielYYZ> bbeck_: i think it's not
[04:07] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle: you can do "whois www.website.com" in konsole or in a website that provides the whois service to check the ip
[04:07] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle: there's an easier way, but i can't remember right now
[04:07] <bbeck_> you can use the host command.
[04:08] <bdizzle> ooh, it looks like this bulldog program builds one for me too
[04:08] <bdizzle> yeah, I know.. but that's manual, I was hoping to set up something automatic
[04:08] <GabrielYYZ> bbeck_: thanks!
[04:10] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle: why not edit firefox's about:config and increasing the cache for dns queries? i think that'd be simpler
[04:10] <bdizzle> I wasn't aware that existed?
[04:11] <bdizzle> which option is it GabrielYYZ?
[04:12] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle:  give me a sec
[04:12] <bdizzle> thanks
[04:13] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle: check it out: http://firefox-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/05/preferences-tweaks.html it's the DNS section
[04:13] <bbeck_> Out of curiousity, what's the goal for using your hosts file?  Is it speed or just in case you loose your DNS server?
[04:13] <bdizzle> little of both
[04:13] <bdizzle> and thanks GabrielYYZ
[04:13] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle: sure, no problem
[04:14] <GabrielYYZ> the hosts file method isn't all that great, i have a big hosts file for blocking bad sites and it slows down the loading times a bit
[04:14] <GabrielYYZ> it's not like it's a minute or anything but it's noticeable
[04:15] <bdizzle> odd.... network.dnsCache doesn't exist
[04:16] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle: you create the entry and select integer, the website explains how to
[04:16] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[04:16] <bdizzle> didn't read the next line, duh
[04:23] <_abhishek> I have ugpgraded my machine from kubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 not when i restart its freez on checking battery status
[04:23] <_abhishek> any idea whats wrong
[04:24] <bdizzle> oooh, I like this site GabrielYYZ, thank you very much
[04:24] <GabrielYYZ> bdizzle: glad you like it, you're welcome
[04:26] <_abhishek> any idea please help
[04:26] <_abhishek> its stuck from last two days
[04:37] <_abhishek> is it possible to reinstall kubuntu without formating my root partation
[04:37] <_abhishek> i have swap
[04:37] <_abhishek> and root is ext4
[05:30] <prashanth> Hey guys. Can anyone tell me how to add more fonts to Konsole's font list?
[05:30] <prashanth> I am trying to use ubuntu font for the konsole.
[05:32] <prashanth> Anyone?
[05:35] <prashanth> ??
[05:43] <bbeck_> prefrontal: You probably are already aware, but the ubuntu font is not fixed width.  There is work at canonical at making a fixed width version.
[05:46] <Goliath>  how can i make my clock not say am or pm near time?
[05:49] <bbeck_> Goliath: I believe you go to System Settings -> Locale -> Country / Region & Language (right side tab) -> Date & Time (top tab)
[06:01] <Goliath> i start my system and knetworkmanager doesnt appear on tray
[06:01] <Goliath> what can i do?
[06:03] <bbeck_> Goliath: Is Network Management checked in the Sys Tray configuration?
[06:03] <Goliath> how do i check that?
[06:05] <bbeck_> Right click on your sys tray -> select System Tray Settings from the context menu -> In the display section you should see a list of items you can hide or make visible.  On my machine Network Management is one of those items.
[06:09] <Goliath> k it worked
[06:09] <Goliath> gg
[06:19] <danae> hey
[06:19] <danae> how do i rerun the kwallet setup? I pressed cancel the first time and didnt enter a password
[07:00] <bdizzle> hi, I was wandering how do I block a range of IP addresses?
[07:01] <bdizzle> I've got Firestarter running and I keep getting hits from a few people and I'd like to know how to just block them outright
[07:28] <jschall_> bdizzle: use iptables to block xxx.xxx.xxx.0/16, i believe
[07:28] <jschall_> bdizzle: idk about firestarter
[07:28] <jschall_> bdizzle: my philosophy is: let them try.
[07:28] <bdizzle> lol
[07:29] <bdizzle> I hate asking this, but is there a gui interface to iptables?
[07:29] <jschall_> i haven't had a linux box broken into, ever. at least, not that i've noticed.
[07:29] <jschall_> bdizzle: pretty sure iptables is what firestarter uses.
[07:30] <bdizzle> ok
[07:30] <GabrielYYZ> GUFW is also a front end for iptables, IIRC
[07:30] <jschall_> bdizzle: wikipedia: "Firestarter is a free and open source personal firewall tool that uses the Netfilter (iptables/ipchains) system built into the Linux kernel.
[07:31] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[07:32] <zoggy> hi there, is there any way to disable the plasma task manager previewing any windows that i hover over on the task bar please? it's killing my thought process. thanks so much
[07:32] <jschall_> zoggy: system settings, desktop effects,
[07:33] <jschall_> zoggy: all effects
[07:33] <jschall_> zoggy: taskbar thumbnails, under appearance
[07:33] <zoggy> thanks jschall_
[07:33] <jschall_> zoggy: about 17 down
[07:34] <zoggy> jschall_: but that is off. yet still when i hover over any items on my taskbar, the entire screen fades and it uses the whole screen to preview that taskbar entry
[07:34] <jschall_> zoggy: oh. hold on, let me look into it
[07:35] <jschall_> zoggy: right click on any item in the task bar, task manager settings
[07:35] <jschall_> zoggy: highlight windows
[07:35] <zoggy> jschall_: i think you've pointed me in the right direction! it's the one 2 down from that called "highlight window"!
[07:35] <zoggy> jschall_: man you rock!!!!
[07:35] <zoggy> that's been driving me crazy for months
[07:35] <zoggy> just never have a moment to figure it out
[07:35] <jschall_> zoggy: you can also disable the annoying grouping there
[07:36] <jschall_> zoggy: grouping pisses me off.
[07:36] <jschall_> zoggy: extra clicks
[07:36] <zoggy> jschall_: totally!!!!!
[07:36] <zoggy> jschall_: ah! now my little world is complete. thanks a million
[07:36] <jschall_> zoggy: i'd also do "only show tasks from the current desktop," if you use multiple desktops.
[07:37] <zoggy> jschall_: agreed
[07:41] <john_user> hi collabra!
[07:42] <john_user> hi collabra!
[07:45] <john_user> I need some help with my soundcard
[07:45] <john_user> could anyone give me any advice??
[07:49] <GabrielYYZ> !ask | john_user
[08:02] <john_user> could anyone provide me some help?
[08:03] <GabrielYYZ> john_user: if you don't say what the problem is, we can't help :(
[08:07] <john_user> I have no sound
[08:08] <john_user> My soundcard is a soundblaster  24 live!
[08:08] <john_user> it is fully recognised from the system as ca0106
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[08:18] <collabra> !hardware
[08:18] <john_user> 04:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster
[08:25] <user> hi
[08:26] <user> i have a problem more with my computer than with the os, but maybe someone can help me anyway
[08:26] <user> I have an hp laptop and when switching it on it shoes HP before it even boots the os. this screen already shows strangly
[08:27] <user> also lines of text of the boot loader
[08:27] <user> lines have like a shadow that writes the same line hardly visible, and additionally it looks a bit like a snow storm
[08:28] <user> once i start x it stays black and every once in a while for a fraction of a second it flickers so that I can glimpse at the desktop
[08:28] <user> what is that? graphcs card? driver? bios?
[08:30] <user> x is more affected than text mode before starting x, ctrl aöt f1 stays black for a few seconds then ist like a changing color screensaver
[08:30] <jado> hello, how do i create an ad-hoc network with knetworkmanager? i've tried adding an ad-hoc wireless network but noone can detect it
[08:34] <heri> hello friednds
[08:52] <collabra> !make
[08:53] <collabra> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:53] <collabra> sudo apt-get install automake
[08:54] <collabra> sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[08:58] <collabra> !make > john_user
[09:15] <c2tarun> no sound in KDE :(
[09:17] <c2tarun> can anyone please help. i m not getting any sound in KDE. the sound was coming in GNOME
[09:17] <larsjaaa> c2tarun: try alsamixer on the command line,
[09:18] <larsjaaa> c2tarun: press F5, I think its the best interface to check that nothing is muted an so on
[09:18] <c2tarun> everything is at maximum here.
[09:18] <c2tarun> larsjaaa: ya nothing is muted
[09:19] <larsjaaa> c2tarun: try to troubleshoot soundcard? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound
[09:20] <larsjaaa> c2tarun: maybe even better: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[09:36] <user> I need to hand in my computer to a computer garage. I will have to wipe all my data
[09:37] <user> can I copy it over and back securely with dd ?
[09:37] <user> I mean is this reliable and will it copy over EVERYTHING   including my cookies my different partitions and the bootloader?
[09:38] <user> (Am new to linux, so sorry if it's a noob question)
[09:38] <user> and can dd also read the zfs partition a friend made on the computer? (he uses solaris i think)
[09:39] <user> (I can only login to kubuntu tho)
[09:39] <valorie> dd will indeed copy EVERYTHING
[09:40] <valorie> although maybe a bit too literally for most uses
[09:40] <valorie> I don't know about zhs, but I don't know why not
[09:40] <valorie> it literally is copying all the bits
[09:40] <valorie> not the files
[09:41] <valorie> if you want to copy the files, you are better off with rsync, etc.
[09:42] <user> valorie: well I wanto to copy it 1:1 and once I get the computer back copy it back using a live cd
[09:42] <valorie> might indeed work perfectly for that
[09:43] <user> If I understood it correctly dd makes it be exactly my hdd as is now, so I'd not need install the os again
[09:43] <user> cool, thanks
[09:43] <valorie> right
[09:43] <user> thogh the "might" makes me a bit insecure...
[09:43] <valorie> you should read up on it
[09:44] <valorie> don't rely on random helpful people on IRC -- be your own expert
[09:44] <user> have a specific link or do you mean wikipedia article about dd?
[09:44] <valorie> I try to read the scrollback in this channel, and do see bad advice occasionally
[09:44] <user> before I'm an expert, I think the sun will have tunred into a red giant
[09:44] <valorie> man dd, probably
[09:44] <user> ok, thank you
[09:45] <valorie> no, an expert reads enough to feel secure, and then does something
[09:45] <user> ok, will try to understand cryptic man text... ;-)
[09:45] <user> thx, valorie
[09:45] <valorie> if you want to be absolutely sure, make two backups -- one with DD, and one of just your data with rsync
[09:45] <maco> user: yes it is exact bit for bit copy. no you wont need to reinstall the os if you do the whole drive
[09:46] <user> maco_ thank you for confirming
[09:46] <maco> this was how i did backups until i realised rsync'ing my home, getting a list of installed packages from dpkg, and reinstalling the OS was *way* more efficient
[09:46] <valorie> lol
[09:46] <maco> because dd'ing a 120GB drive takes ~8 hours
[09:46] <maco> also, i think the disks need to be the same size
[09:47] <valorie> see, here's an expert who has done it
[09:47] <valorie> :-)
[09:48] <user> maco: as it will be the same computer, szes will be identical
[09:48] <user> only it's graphic cards will be changed
[09:49] <user> dd seems easier to me than getting list of installed packages, etc, also I have full system encryption and I would not know how to set up that one if I had to reinstall
[10:46] <amichair> how do I get grub to show a prompt? (escape doesn't do anything)
[10:48] <moetunes> amichair:  doesn't it say to hit the c key for that? - been ages  since I payed attention to what it has written
[10:49] <amichair> moetunes: it doesn't say anything other than showing an error right on bootup and then a blank screen :-(
[10:49] <amichair> I don't even have enough time to read what the error is
[10:50] <moetunes> that'll make it hard - I'd recommend a live cd and a chroot environment to try and fix it then
[10:51] <moetunes> you won't get a grub prompt if it errors out
[10:51] <amichair> actually, the problem starts a bit earlier - I want to migrate a wubi install to a separate partition. I resized the ntfs partition, looks to be successful (windows runs ok), but kubuntu no longer does
[10:53] <moetunes> I didn't think you could do that - but I've never bothered with wubi
[10:54] <amichair> maybe I should try upgrading wubi on the windows side first just in case
[10:55] <moetunes> I'd try finding some info on the process first
[10:55] <moetunes> !wubi
[10:55] <amichair> I found instructions for the migration wubi -> partition in the forums with lots of positive feedback (i.e. it works)
[10:56] <amichair> but it starts at the point that you already created the new partition scheme,
[10:56] <amichair> and assumes k/ubuntu is still working :-)
[10:57] <moetunes> ok then sounds like you've done the research bit :)
[11:06] <amichair> yeah, it's the dealing with unexpected failures part that's giving me trouble :-)
[11:11] <amichair> oh no
[11:11] <amichair> I think running the newest wubi installer under windows just uninstalled the previous one instead of installing a newer one (and deleted all data and disks in the process)
[11:19] <amichair> I guess that solves the migration problem
[11:45] <c2tarun> getting no sound in KDE. can anyone please help
[11:56] <c2tarun> no sound in KDE. can anyone help
[11:57] <larsjaaa> c2tarun: no luck on the sound troubleshoot links?
[11:57] <c2tarun> nope :(
[11:57] <c2tarun> i followed that one of forum.
[11:58] <moetunes> it's handy to know what you've tried
[11:58] <Riddell> ** testers needed for KDE SC 4.6 Beta 2
[11:59] <c2tarun> i tried the steps on this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 and in step 3 i failed to detect my sound card
[12:01] <moetunes> c2tarun:  step 3 is for the driver - step 1 is for the sound card - did   aplay -l   find the sound card?
[12:02] <c2tarun> sorry, i meant i failed to detect my driver. :(
[12:02] <moetunes> c2tarun:  what did   aplay -l   say the souncard is?
[12:03] <c2tarun> moetunes: just wait few seconds and let me switch to KDE. i m inside gnome. jst a second plz
[12:06] <c2tarun> moetunes: ya i m back
[12:06] <moetunes> c2tarun:  does the sound work in gnome?
[12:07] <c2tarun> moetunes: yup
[12:07] <c2tarun> moetunes: this is the output of aplay -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/540975/
[12:07] <moetunes> c2tarun:  then it should be able to work in kde - go throught all the tabs in kmix first
[12:09] <moetunes> c2tarun:  you have ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop in the same os?
[12:09] <c2tarun> moetunes: yup
[12:09] <c2tarun> kmix is not starting :(
[12:10] <moetunes> c2tarun:  what happens when you type   kmix   in konsole?
[12:11] <c2tarun> moetunes: it is started i confused it with something else
[12:11] <c2tarun> none of the tabs here are mute
[12:13] <moetunes> if it is set to use master try pcm
[12:14] <c2tarun> i selected master channel as PCM and nothing happened
[12:15] <moetunes> in konsole does   aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav   do anything?
[12:16] <c2tarun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/540976/
[12:18] <moetunes> so something is using the sound then
[12:18] <c2tarun> moetunes: sound was working fine till yesterday. i think that i got warning of forgetting some device detached. after that its not.
[12:19] <c2tarun> dont knw i cant hear anything
[12:19] <moetunes> c2tarun:  was it a usb sound card or similar?
[12:19] <moetunes> select a diff device in kmix - you have two listed
[12:19] <c2tarun> nope. i m using laptop and only speakers are internal
[12:20] <c2tarun> here is the new message of your frontcenter command: Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[12:20] <moetunes> that means it worked - you got sound?
[12:21] <c2tarun> but i cant hear anything :(
[12:21] <moetunes> select a diff device in kmix - you have two listed
[12:23] <c2tarun> moetunes: i have 3 visible channels. should i select anyone among them.
[12:23] <shahan> Is there any visual way to shutdown the KDE
[12:24] <moetunes> c2tarun:  I would try each in turn 'till the sound works
[12:24] <c2tarun> and there are 5 available channels
[12:24] <danae> how can i change the background image at login?
[12:24] <danae> make it the same as my wallpaper
[12:26] <shahan> any graphical way to halt the KDE?
[12:27] <moetunes> select logout from the kmenu
[12:28] <c2tarun> moetunes: i tried each and every option. still no sound :(
[12:29] <moetunes> c2tarun:  you should have three devices listed - default, generic and hdintel yes?
[12:29] <bubuh> hi all
[12:30] <c2tarun> generic and hdainte only. and hdaintel have many options i tried them all. and generic no option
[12:30] <danae> when i login to kde desktop, some lines (outlines of a box) appear near desktop folder
[12:30] <danae> how do i remove them?
[12:31] <moetunes> c2tarun:  I would check   alsamixer   in konsole - all the options for all the devices - and turn everything all the way up
[12:32] <moetunes> danae:  sounds like it might be the vid card driver needs some work or replacing
[12:32] <amichair> what is the difference between installing kubuntu on a second partition (windows+ntfs is the first) that is primary vs. an extended/logical partition?
[12:33] <c2tarun> moetunes:how can i do that
[12:34] <moetunes> amichair:  you can only have four primary partitions - there's no diff between primary and extended
[12:34] <moetunes> c2tarun:  alsamixer is a cli app - run it in konsole
[12:34] <moetunes> c2tarun:  it has directions at top left
[12:34] <amichair> moetunes: thanks
[12:35] <moetunes> np :)
[12:35] <c2tarun> i did that and turned everything up. no success. yesterday i was having some trouble with my wifi driver and i removed and reinstalled it. then i worked. can i do that here also
[12:36] <moetunes> c2tarun:  if it works in gnome there really isn't much point- it is getting kde to work with it that is the prob - do you really want to uninstall kde and reinstall it?
[12:36] <c2tarun> moetunes: i did that and turned everything up. no success. yesterday i was having some trouble with my wifi driver and i removed and reinstalled it. then i worked. can i do that here also
[12:37] <c2tarun> do you think it will work?? i found KDE better than GNOME. but with no sound i cant use it.
[12:38] <moetunes> c2tarun:  from what I know of the soundcard you have it should work ok - I think you may have missed something maybe
[12:38] <c2tarun> ya may be :( ok on this weekend i'll remove KDE and reinstall it. lets hope that works
[12:39] <c2tarun> is there any way to shutdown and restart KDE. only i find is logout and swithuser and lock screen
[12:40] <darthanubis> it will say shutdown
[12:41] <c2tarun> i m getting only 5 options. logout, lock, switch user, sleep, hibernate
[12:58] <supermag> Hi, what do i do about  Xorg[924]: segfault at 4 ip 00d044d2 sp bfed51e4 error 4 in ld-2.11.1.so[cfa000+1b000]
[13:44] <skafti> Hey
[13:45] <skafti> I have a partition that i cant accsess what do i do
[13:46] <rork> have you tried manually mounting it?
[13:47] <skafti> no dont know how
[13:47] <skafti> i think it is a locked windows partition
[13:47] <skafti> something like that
[13:49] <skafti> can i get some diskmanager from the repository
[13:50] <rork> I don't know, my partitions are listed in dolphin. I can talk you trough the commands if you want
[13:52] <rork> You can also check if it's listed in System Settings > Removable Devices
[13:53] <skafti> ok cool
[13:55] <rork> The first thing to find out is if the system recognizes the partition, where it's located and which filesystem it uses. You can use the command `sudo fdisk -l` for this, it will list all recognized harddrives and partitions. Do you see the partition there?
[13:58] <skafti> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:58] <skafti> /dev/sda1   *           1        6374    51199123+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[13:58] <skafti> /dev/sda2            6375       14592    66011085    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[13:58] <skafti> /dev/sda5            6375       14592    66011053+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[13:58] <FloodBotK1> skafti: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[13:59] <skafti> here it is
[13:59] <skafti> not used to use kubuntu
[13:59] <skafti> just windows
[13:59] <skafti> my computer crashed with windows so i desided to try out kubuntu
[14:01] <rork> that sounds like a good reason, I try to persuade my parents with that but failed :/
[14:02] <dhendu9411> Good morning all!
[14:02] <rork> skafti: do you know which one is the partion you can't mound? (I guess /dev/sda2)
[14:02] <skafti> good morning
[14:02] <rork> morning dhendu9411
[14:03] <dhendu9411> I have a problem with network manager that I can't figure out... if I try to change the settings to anything other than using a wallet to store passwords, the config won't save.  Any ideas?
[14:06] <rork> skafti: /dev/sda2 can't be mounted, aren't the other two partition listed in Dolphin?
[14:10] <skafti> i have 4 part listed in dolphin
[14:10] <skafti> one of them i cant acsess
[14:10] <nemoden> help
[14:11] <nemoden> ok. that does not work :)
[14:11] <rork> nemoden: with what?
[14:11] <nemoden> i wanted the standard help on IRC commands
[14:11] <rork> nemoden: try /help
[14:12] <nemoden> that works. thanks :)
[14:12] <rork> skafti: what's the size of that partition and what do you see when you try to mount it?
[14:13] <vbgunz> I had the most insane and maddest experience yesterday. I resumed from hibernation and no amount of putting in my password to unlock my session worked. It truly bugged me out. No caps lock on or anything. I just could not log in, my password was always wrong. I rebooted and that fixed it but really? what could have caused that?
[14:13] <skafti> hm im trying to figure that out because theyr names are different in dolphin
[14:14] <skafti> im sorry im just like a baby in this :)
[14:15] <rork> np, we've all been there or still are ;)
[14:15] <skafti> dev/sdb is prob what dolpin calles 98.7
[14:16] <rork> and often when I help someone I'm learning as I go also
[14:16] <skafti> because thas the largest disk
[14:16] <skafti> and thats not a partition i think
[14:17] <rork> no, partitions end with a number, e.g. /dev/sda is the first harddisk, /dev/sda1 is the first partition, /dev/sda2 is the second. Might the disk be empty? You can use gparted to check that (you may have to install it)
[14:22] <skafti> wait i have to help a little familymember packing a christmas gift for his mom :)
[14:33] <skafti> so i only have partitioned drives cause they all end with a number
[14:39] <rork> skafti: if you install gparted it shows you how your harddrives are partitioned, it also shows unallocated space.
[14:39] <rork> fdisk didn't show anything on the second harddrive, so I don't think it is partitioned.
[14:40] <skafti> yes have installed it
[14:41] <sundberg> Hello!
[14:41] <rork> Hi sundberg
[14:41] <sundberg> I am trying out Natty, and any idea where to enable / is it missing the directory widgets that used to show files insides directories when hoovering them
[14:42] <rork> questions about Natty should be asked in #ubuntu+1
[14:43] <sundberg> hum, that was badly written, i'll try again. I think 10.04 plasma directory widget showed directory contents when keeping mouse over a directory (in desktop widget)
[14:43] <sundberg> ah! ok sorry!
[14:43] <nerdy_kid> sundberg: you have to press the little "up" arrow to get the browser pop up.  Some plasma themes dont have that button though btw
[14:43] <nerdy_kid> meh, this is more a kde question then a ubuntu one.
[14:43] <skafti> I see the partitions now i have 3 hard drives and one is partitioned to 4 parts
[14:43] <skafti> semms 2 of those parts have a lock on them
[14:44] <skafti> one i can acess with putting in a password but the other one is just blocked
[14:44] <sundberg> nerdy_kid: that did help
[14:44] <skafti> or its a bougus
[14:44] <sundberg> seems like theme oxygen is missing the 'up' arrow as air does have it
[14:45] <sundberg> (and i guess the fact that its missing is well known and no need to report it .. )
[14:45] <skafti> its not a real drive shows exatct same size
[14:45] <rork> skafti: what's that partitions name and filesystem type?
[14:45] <nerdy_kid> sundberg: several other themes are missing it is well.  You can actually still use it, just click where the up button should be and it works lol
[14:46] <sundberg> haha, true!
[14:46] <sundberg> thanks!
[14:46] <skafti> name /dev/sda2 extended
[14:46] <skafti> extendet of /dev/sda5 which is ntfs
[14:46] <rork> skafti: it's a bogus drive indeed, it's used as  a container for other partitios
[14:47] <skafti> can i rid it ?
[14:47] <rork> that will also remove /dev/sda5
[14:48] <rork> and there's no need to, it's a common thing but afaik normally it doesn't show up
[14:48] <skafti> i think i will move the data to a save drive and format this, dont like the caos
[14:49] <rork> skafti: do as you please, gparted is a nice too to create/remove/format partitions
[14:52] <danae> does kopete supprort video/audio chat?
[14:55] <amichair> sharky: there can be up to 4 primary partitions, plus a single extended partition containing several logical partitions. windows must boot from a primary partition, in linux it doesn't matter.
[14:55] <amichair> sharky: oops, that was for skafti ^^
[14:57] <amichair>  /dev/sda5 and up should be the logical ones
[15:00] <danae> does kopete supprort video/audio chat?
[15:00] <danae> ???????????
[15:04] <\ottizen> Somehow I managed to remove the volume control from the system tray. How do I re-add it?
[15:04] <sharky> amichair, thats OK
[15:05] <b2ag> Goliath: yes, it does
[15:05] <amichair> \ottizen: it's kmix, in the system tray settings
[15:06] <Goliath> b2ag: whats the best im client to use for video/audio these days?
[15:06] <Goliath> empathy, pidgin?
[15:06] <b2ag> dont know
[15:06] <b2ag> sorry .. i only know that kopete is able to capture camera
[15:09] <\ottizen> amichair: where?
[15:09] <amichair> right click on the system tray
[15:11] <amichair> \ottizen: or maybe just run kmix if u only closed it
[15:11] <\ottizen> Ah, thanks, worked.
[15:23] <sresu> I don't remember what I did in hurry that I removed trash entry from dolphin. Now when I add an entry for it, it doen't work that well. How can I undo what I did or get the default way of dolphin file manager?
[15:26] <amichair> sresu: if you're talking about the Places panel, try adding an entry pointing to "trash:/"
[15:27] <sresu> amichair: I did that thing but it doen't work like it used to before as in the data deleted doen't go to trash any more
[15:27] <sresu> doesn't*
[15:28] <sresu> I've to manually go there by typing that in dolphin
[15:28] <sresu> Or use remove command
[15:28] <amichair> the problem is in viewing the trash, or sending files to the trash?
[15:29] <sresu> viewing the trash
[15:29] <amichair> so if you go to "trash:/" you see everything as it should be?
[15:29] <sresu> The image trash can gets when data enters it doesn't come
[15:29] <sresu> Yep
[15:29] <sresu> But not by clicking the created trash
[15:30] <sresu> Why do we have 'Remove entry Trash'?
[15:31] <sresu> Its not with other entries
[15:31] <amichair> I see the remove entry menu item on all items
[15:32] <amichair> so what happens when you add a new Entry, with Label "Trash" and Location "trash:/" and choose the trash icon?
[15:33] <amichair> (the icon is called user-trash)
[15:41] <lineinthesand> My system doesn't boot anymore. It says it doesn't find the root device and I'm dropped to a minimal console. I don't see any of the device nodes I'd expect on /dev. Do you have any ideas what I could do?
[15:41] <sresu> amichair: Thanks I found the solution now.. I ve to manually refresh for it to work
[15:42] <amichair> lineinthesand: do you know if it's the grub console or the ubuntu console?
[15:43] <nerdy_kid> amichair: that would be the grub prompt.
[15:43] <lineinthesand> amichair, I think it's the ubuntu console.
[15:44] <amichair> it sounds to me like grub too, just trying to make sure where lineinthesand is at...
[15:44] <nerdy_kid> lineinthesand: try running uname -a and that would tell it.  it will probably throw an error.
[15:44] <lineinthesand> It's some ramfs thing
[15:46] <amichair> lineinthesand: is this a standard hard disk installation? (as opposed to usb, livecd, dual-boot, etc)
[15:46] <lineinthesand> I have a rudimentary linux tree but in /dev I don't see eg. sdb1 etc
[15:46] <lineinthesand> amichair, it's dual-boot with opensuse
[15:46] <lineinthesand> I had it working already and I can't remember having changed anything in the config...
[15:47] <amichair> maybe run fsck to make sure all is well?
[15:47] <lineinthesand> I can mount the root partition from opensuse, btw.
[15:50] <lineinthesand> fsck doesn't report any errors on the root device
[15:51] <amichair> any chance you changed something in the partitions, filesystem, UUID etc.?
[15:52] <lineinthesand> amichair, nothing I'd know of. I have three hdds in this system and I didn't change that...
[15:52]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[15:54] <amichair> what's the exact error you see?
[15:54] <lineinthesand>  /boot should be on hd1,0 and the root partition on /dev/sdb3
[15:54] <lineinthesand> amichair, I have to reboot to see that. (Takes some time)
[15:55] <amichair> lineinthesand: ok, also try to use grub manually to find things and make sure everything is in place (or what isn't)
[15:55] <amichair> it seems like you know your way around it...
[15:55] <amichair> (at least as much as I do, if not more)
[15:56] <lineinthesand> OK. Going to reboot now...
[16:06] <lineinthesand> For some strange reason, I could boot now (tried to but couldn't three times before).
[16:07] <lineinthesand> Anyway. Is anyone of you running compiz under kde sucessfully?
[16:09] <amichair> lineinthesand: glad to hear it works, for whatever reason :-)
[16:09] <amichair> I haven't used compiz under kde for quite a while, since they got all the effects built-in
[16:28] <skafti> rork if you are still there,,, thanks alot man :)
[16:28] <rork> yep, you're welcome
[16:50] <Goliath> how can i verify an iso i just burned with k3b?
[16:52] <susundberg> _o/
[16:55] <zerogad94> hi
[16:55] <zerogad94> hellllo
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[16:57] <susundberg> hello
[16:57] <zerogad94> 1 mnin
[16:58] <zerogad94> min
[16:59] <zerogad94> كيف تعريف كرت الشاشة ati
[16:59] <zerogad94> How definition graphics card ati
[16:59] <zerogad94> How the amendment to the height and width your screen
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[17:02] <zerogad94> ??????????
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[17:02] <zerogad94> كيف تعريف كرت الشاشة ati
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[17:03] <zerogad94> How definition graphics card ati
[17:03] <zerogad94> How the amendment to the height and width your screen
[17:03] <zerogad94> fuck
[17:03] <jussi> !language | zerogad94
[17:04] <zerogad94> i speaking arabic
[17:04] <zerogad94> ? rom for arabic ?where
[17:04] <jussi> !sa
[17:04] <zerogad94> ok good
[17:04] <jussi> :)
[17:31] <flixan> hi
[18:08] <anon__> hi. Is there a way to automatically group contacts (on kopete) by account type?
[18:08] <anon__> (complete KDE newb here)
[18:12] <anon__> hello?
[18:13] <rork> as far as I can see there isn't
[18:16] <anon__> ok, thanks
[18:28] <Guest15739> hi
[18:28] <Guest15739> i have a problem with kubuntu 10.10
[18:28] <Guest15739> when i try to install kdeutils, it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop
[18:29] <Guest15739> what should i do?
[18:32] <Guest15739> can someone try to install kdeutils?
[18:32] <Guest15739> i would like to one if this only happen to me
[18:33] <Guest15739> *one = know
[18:40] <asfyxia> Hi Guest15739, I have Kubuntu 10.10 and kdeutils, how have you installed it?
[18:41] <Guest15739> i use KPackageKit
[18:41] <Guest15739> it tolds me that kdeutils is not installed, and when i try to install it, it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop
[18:42] <Guest15739> I thought it was installed because i have ark, but it was not
[18:42] <asfyxia> Ok Guest15739, i have installed kdeutils many times and never experienced something like you describe, so let's find out. Do you still have it installed?
[18:43] <Guest15739> no, i have not installed it because KPackageKit want to remove kubuntu-desktop to install it
[18:45] <DarthFrog> Guest15739: Uninstalling kubuntu-desktop probably won't be a problem; it is a meta-package.
[18:45] <asfyxia> Ok, just to be sure, open a terminal (Konsole) and do sudo apt-get purge kdeutils (that removes really everything from it), when it's finished, you do sudo apt-get install kdeutils.
[18:45] <DarthFrog> By that I mean, it won't really uninstall anything.
[18:46] <asfyxia> DarthFrog is right, but the shortest way to install kdeutils is with Konsole ;-)
[18:47] <Guest15739> that's very strange
[18:47] <[Relic]> why does my 1G usb drive not allow writing to it?  used to be able to just plug it in and copy files to it, can't seem to now
[18:48] <Guest15739> after i apt-get purged, not apt-get install neither KPackageKit ask to remove kubuntu-desktop anymore
[18:48] <Guest15739> but the purge command returned "kdeutils not installed, so anything removed"
[18:48] <asfyxia> Guest1579, what did you mean with your remark 'because I have Ark", I'm a little puzzled about that
[18:49] <[Relic]> it does detect and I can move around on it to view stuff.  I simply get a error can't write to device error everytime I try to copy something
[18:49] <Guest15739> asfyxia, i read that Ark was part of kdeutils
[18:49] <anon__> hi. Can someone help me set up hotkeys in kde? (total kde newb)
[18:49] <Guest15739> but i have ark installed, can run it, but not kdeutils
[18:50] <Guest15739> and there is no ark package in the repositories
[18:50] <Guest15739> i thought it was installed along with kdeutils, but it seems not
[18:50] <asfyxia> Okay Guest1579, than just do apt-get instal kdeutils. It will find Ark.
[18:50] <asfyxia> Relic, can it be that your usb drive is just full?
[18:51] <anon__> Hello. Can someone please help me set up hotkeys?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> !repeat | anon__
[18:51] <[Relic]> nope, it only reports about 50m being used
[18:51] <[Relic]> 350m used
[18:53] <asfyxia> Relic, then I guess something went wrong with the unmounting. I'm afraid I can't give you a short solution for that, it has to do something with the writing rights
[18:53] <tilted_mind> Anyone have a favorite voip client compatible with Asterisk?
[18:54] <[Relic]> ok, just checking, I can use email to xfer stuff  if I really get desperate, just thought it was odd and figured I would check and see if there was a simple solution
[18:54] <ispy_> I hate to just jump in and ask a question, but I'm curious if anyone else is having a problem in 10.10 where Desktop Effects can't be enabled, and only Xrender works.
[18:54] <ispy_> Any help is appreciated. :)
[18:56] <Guest15739> ark crash when i try to compress to rar, i have installed the kdeutils-dbg package
[18:57] <Guest15739> but the crash reporting tool continue to tell me that the debug symbols are not installed
[18:57] <Guest15739> and that the generated report is useless
[18:57] <Guest15739> when i click to "install debug symbols", it just tell me immediately that the package are already isntalled
[18:57] <rork> ispy_: what's your graphics card and have you installed drivers for it?
[18:58] <Guest15739> the reload button to nothing, and the "install debug symbols" just tell me that the package is installed
[19:00] <twohamed> hi
[19:00] <asfyxia> IGuest1579, maybe it's wise to get rid of your Ark first. It's in the repos, so don't worry. In Konsole, sudo apt-get purge Ark && suso apt-get install kedeutils, what gives that?
[19:00] <asfyxia> -s, +d ;-)
[19:00] <rork> hi twohamed
[19:02] <Guest15739> asfyxia, i have purged it and auto-removed the other packages, reinstalling now
[19:02] <Guest15739> a lirc configuration dialog appeared ...
[19:02] <DiogenesW> servus
[19:03] <rork> dere\
[19:03] <Guest15739> ok, i re-have ark now
[19:03] <Guest15739> and it just keeps crashing when i try to compress to rar
[19:03] <Guest15739> no problems with other formats thought
[19:05] <Guest15739> maybe the rar version in the repos is not compatible with ark?? (just a question)
[19:05] <DiogenesW> Guest15739 instaLL rar. i had the same problem
[19:05] <DiogenesW> for me, that worked
[19:05] <asfyxia> Well, just use what's working, I would say ;-)
[19:06] <Guest15739> and DrKonqi keeps telling me that debug symbols are not installed, while kdeutils-dbg is installed
[19:07] <Guest15739> asfyxia, sure, i just think that it should not crash with rar installed or not installed, just want to help, it is the reason i have installed the debug symbols
[19:08] <Guest15739> diogenesW, sudo apt-get install rar?
[19:09] <DiogenesW> i think that it was
[19:10] <DiogenesW> you shuld install unrar as well
[19:10] <Guest15739> purged and reinstalled it, ark still crashing
[19:11] <Guest15739> hey, it worked with unrar installed
[19:11] <Guest15739> so if rar is installed and unrar not, it crashes
[19:11] <DiogenesW> i said you need both :)
[19:12] <amichair> isn't rar proprietary? (I thought unrar was given a free use license, but not rar)
[19:13] <amichair> though 7z is better and freeer :-)
[19:27] <termAxer> hi
[19:28] <termAxer> I got a question about network manager applet in kde
[19:28] <termAxer> anybody can help?
[19:28] <amichair> !ask | termAxer
[19:32] <termAxer> oh sorry. the problem is that i make a dsl connection but it not displayed for to connect.
[19:32] <termAxer> . the problem is that i make a dsl connection but it is not displayed for me to connect.
[19:45] <TFrog> any one here testing natty narwhal?
[19:46] <rork> I have it installed and have played with it a bit, but I'm not currently using it
[19:46] <TFrog> i would prefer to know if anyone has tested it on a laptop but thanks rork
[19:46] <genii-around> TFrog: I'm running it on an Aspire 8730
[19:47] <TFrog> genii-around, which wireless card are you using?
[19:47] <genii-around> TFrog: Intel 5100
[19:48] <TFrog> ok.  was curious.  i've got it on a broadcom 4306 and hate the b43 drivers.  ndiswrapper has always been much more stable for me
[19:50] <genii-around> The Broadcoms have always been a headache
[19:51] <TFrog> i agree genii-around.  if i had the money, i'd have a new laptop without the broadcom.  would much prefer the Atheros chipset myself
[20:07] <mark__> hello
[20:26] <DiogenesW> gute nacht
[20:27] <mario__> Hi. I have a problem connecting a wireless in a dell xps 1340. It says activating but never goes activated. Any ideas?
[20:36] <amichair> I just added the kubuntu updates ppa, about to upgrade, and it says packages like kdebase-workspace, kubuntu-desktop, plasma-desktop will be removed. Is this supposed to happen?
[21:01] <Guest6998> Hello !!!
[21:02] <eMyller> hi
[21:03] <Guest6998> Caming from a long pass with gnome i switch to kde. For now i got two problems 1- How can i sync a ipod touch with amarok and 2- how can i connect to a windows share with dolphin
[21:03] <eMyller> [maverick] am trying to install latest kernel from ubuntu repos; depmod fails to run
[21:03] <Guest6998> More info mi release is a kubuntu 10.4
[21:03] <Pici> wii Guest6998
[21:03] <Pici> oops
[21:11] <rork> Guest6998: install Samba to connect to a windows share
[21:14] <eMyller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/541155
[21:15] <rork> Guest6998: in amarok if I right click a song in my collection I get the option "Copy to > Volumne (vfat)" which is my phone, I don't know if that's advanced enough for you though.
[21:15] <ads> I've got a problem with NetworkManager: dhcp is requesting a dns server, the dhcp server is providing the dns server, but NetworkManager does not add the nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf. It does add the "search" value, if provided. What's wrong?
 the only think a can copy to is the local collection. It's look like the iipod touch is not mounted into the tree.
[21:18] <rork> Guest6998: can you mount it / is it mounted in Dolphin?
[21:19] <rork> ads: I'm not exacly sure what you're asking. Does you aquire an IP from the DNS server or not?
[21:24] <ads> rork: it should, it does, it get's but it's not written to /etc/resolv.conf.
[21:24] <ads> rork: actually I see NetworkManager posting all IPs into the log. But they don't appear in /etc/resolv.conf.
[21:26] <Rioting_Pacifist> !krb
[21:26] <Rioting_Pacifist> !kerbose
[21:26] <Rioting_Pacifist> !krb5
[21:26] <ads> It keeps adding a 127.0.0.1 everytime, whenever I have a "prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf or not.
[21:27] <rork> ads: does /etc/resolv.conf have writing rights? it should be owned by root while knetworkmanager is usually run as a user
[21:30] <ads> rork: both /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf and /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf are owned by root, the latter one is writable for the owner.
[21:35] <rork> ads: if knetworkmanager has to save something to that file it has to be able to write to it, you can change the access rights with chmod. I have no other ideas whatsoever
[21:36] <ads> rork: but why is the "search" added, if provided?
[21:36] <ads> rork: so NetworkManager is obviously able to add something, just not the nameservers.
[21:53] <Rioting_Pacifist> I've got linux-srv-test in my host file, i can ping it but it i can't do host -t A to it
[22:08] <Ginbuntu> what is the difference between apt-get upgrade and update using the GUI in kde?
[22:10] <moetunes> Ginbuntu:  you have to run apt-get update before you apt-get upgrade
[22:10] <Ginbuntu> moetunes: I did that. but it seems you don't understand my question
[22:11] <moetunes> there's no diff between apt-get update and update in the gui - it refreshes the package cache
[22:11] <Ginbuntu> there two ways to upgrade the packages. 1. using apt-get upgrade  2. using update manager in KDE
[22:11] <Ginbuntu> question is: what is the difference?
[22:13] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, I think the GUI is "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:13] <Ginbuntu> amorphous1: that is not true.
[22:14] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, why?
[22:14] <moetunes> Ginbuntu:  you have a poor attitude dude
[22:14] <Ginbuntu> the GUI does the normal updates (stable)
[22:15] <Ginbuntu> but now sure what packages it consider stable
[22:15] <Ginbuntu> I ran sudo apt-get upgrade, this upgrade my kde to 4.4.5
[22:15] <Ginbuntu> then I rebooted my laptop
[22:15] <metatagg> hello! im running 10.04 and i've got no sound in flash (ff+chrome+konqueror) anyone got a tip?
[22:15] <Ginbuntu> run update manager in KDE, it tries to update kde to 4.4.1!
[22:15] <Ginbuntu> a lower version
[22:16] <Ginbuntu> I did that and it broke my system
[22:16] <Ginbuntu> I had to reinstall kubuntu to get it back
[22:17] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, it you're not sure what dist-upgrade does, open Konsole and type "man apt-get"
[22:18] <Ginbuntu> there is something wrong with the update machanism
[22:18] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, and search for "dist-upgrade"
[22:18] <Ginbuntu> amorphous1: that does not tell me what Update manager does exactly
[22:19] <Ginbuntu> if I do apt-get upgrade, my system works fine
[22:19] <Ginbuntu> using Update Manager in KDE breaks my system
[22:19] <Ginbuntu> it tries to remove kubuntu-desktop
[22:19] <Ginbuntu> which is ofcourse not a good thing
[22:20] <deilson> iae galera
[22:21] <deilson> oi
[22:21] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, the GUI does 3 things: "apt-get update", "apt-get upgrade" "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:22] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, the dist-upgrade also upgrades the system, as in new kernels.
[22:23] <Ginbuntu> that is so wrong
[22:23] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, why?
[22:23] <Ginbuntu> dist-upgrade should not be there
[22:23] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, then hoe do you upgrade the system?
[22:23] <Ginbuntu> dist-upgrade should only be performaned when the user want to upgrade to a newer release
[22:24] <Ginbuntu> amorphous1: I am still confused.
[22:24] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu,  "dist-upgrade" IS NOT upgrading to a NEW release
[22:24] <Ginbuntu> amorphous1: I  have kde 4.5.4 installed but Update Manager tries to install kde 4.5.1
[22:24] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, it's distribution upgrade (System upgrade)
[22:25] <amorphous1> don't be fooled by the name
[22:25] <amorphous1> :)
[22:25] <Ginbuntu> amorphous1: ^^
[22:25] <Ginbuntu> amorphous1: I have kde 4.5.4 installed but Update Manager tries to install kde 4.5.1
[22:25] <Ginbuntu> that breaks my system
[22:26] <moetunes> !ppa
[22:27] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, the upgrade to the newest version is called "do-release-upgrade"
[22:27] <Ginbuntu> moetunes: but Update Manager should NOT try to install an older version of a package
[22:27] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, man do-release-upgrade in a terminal to see more info
[22:28] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, that depends on your software sources
[22:28] <Ginbuntu> amorphous1: I only have the default ones and kubuntu/ppa
[22:28] <moetunes> Ginbuntu:  obviously it is you 'cause noone else has this issue
[22:28] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, what ppa exactly?
[22:29] <amorphous1> Ginbuntu, It could be the ppa
[22:29] <Ginbuntu> I have ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[22:29] <Ginbuntu> moetunes: this is a fresh install. it can't be me only
[22:30] <moetunes> Ginbuntu:  obviously it is you 'cause noone else has this issue
[23:07] <Ginbuntu> I solced the problem
[23:07] <Ginbuntu> the dependencies of the packages in PPA is broken
[23:26] <yofel> Ginbuntu: which dependencies?
[23:26] <Ginbuntu> yofel: when installing the updates it uninstalled the package kubuntu-desktop which caused a balckscreen when trying to login
[23:27] <Ginbuntu> fix: install the package kubuntu-desktop manually after update
[23:27] <yofel> right, and I'm sure you're on 32bit, since someone else reported that before
[23:27] <Ginbuntu> yea, I am on 32bit
[23:28] <yofel> I filed it as bug 687551 - someone needs to look into it
[23:28] <yofel> it's a bit odd though since it doesn't happen on 64bit
[23:33] <Ginbuntu> yofel: hopefully some one will resolve it
[23:33] <yofel> yes, this is rather bad..
[23:33] <Ginbuntu> is it possible to highlight words with errors in kde like in gnome?
[23:34] <Torch> Ginbuntu: yes, KDE supports spell checking (i don't use it and can't tell you how to enable it though)
[23:38] <Ginbuntu> Torch: I found it. thx
[23:39] <Ginbuntu> Torch: any Teadict alternative for KDE?
[23:39] <Ginbuntu> I mean stardict
[23:39] <Torch> Ginbuntu: what would that do?
[23:40] <Ginbuntu> Torch: it looks up the definition of a word when you click on a selected word
[23:40] <Torch> Ginbuntu: no idea if something like that exists for KDE, sorry.
[23:41] <kuvu> yofel: is this on natty or maverick for 4.6 b2?
[23:42] <yofel> kuvu: maverick 4.5.4
[23:42] <kuvu> yofel: is this for 4.6 b2?
[23:42] <kuvu> yofel: ok
[23:42] <Ginbuntu> I find kde 4.6 beta a bit unstable
[23:43] <kuvu> Ginbuntu: just updated fresh 11.04 to b2..looks good..using it right now
[23:44] <Ginbuntu> kuvu: does sleep/hibernate work?
[23:44] <kuvu> netbook more snappy on vbox 4.0 beta
[23:44] <kuvu> Ginbuntu: it's on vbox
[23:44] <Ginbuntu> kuvu: where do you get beta 2? I only see beta 1
[23:45] <kuvu> just updated a few moments ago
[23:45] <kuvu> a fresh install
[23:45] <yofel> Ginbuntu: in natty archive uploaded a while ago, maverick isn't released yet
[23:46] <kuvu> yofel: did u see my post on kubuntu-devel about the slideshow?
[23:46] <kuvu> still showing 10.10
[23:47] <Ginbuntu> I think I will wait for a stable release
[23:47] <yofel> nope, but I saw your post in -devel
[23:47] <yofel> erm, ignore me, I'm tired
[23:47] <Ginbuntu> mhh
[23:47] <Ginbuntu> we will get kde 4.6 in 10.10 right?
[23:48] <kuvu> Ginbuntu: it is already
[23:48] <kuvu> b1 at the moment
[23:48] <Ginbuntu> I hope we will get a nice performance increase
[23:49] <Ginbuntu> kde4 is still laggy compared to gnome sometimes
[23:50] <yofel> so far 4.6 is running ok, at least with beta2 the suspend options are back without HAL, so I'm happy for now
[23:50] <Ginbuntu> yofel: that was my problem. suspend didn't work on my laptop with kde 46 B1
[23:50] <Ginbuntu> yofel: Dolphin also was slower when you have no instance opened
[23:51] <yofel> *that* was a bug, dolphin tried to run a device detection with HAL, which failed, it was stuck for a moment, and then continued
[23:51] <yofel> works fine in beta2
[23:51] <Ginbuntu> great to hear.
[23:52] <Ginbuntu> can't wait to install it on my laptop
[23:52] <Ginbuntu> those two were my big issues
[23:52] <xelister_> what was name of that stupid application to configure KDE ?
[23:52] <xelister_> kconfig?
[23:53] <Torch> xelister_: it's not stupid and called systemsettings