[18:53] <AlanBell> hi Pendulum, what was the wordpress.com blog again?
[19:46] <AlanBell> found it, but still can't log on
[19:46] <AlanBell> can you try deleting me and re-inviting me please
[23:33] <phillw> hiyas AlanBell and jono :)
[23:34] <jono> hey phillw
[23:34] <jono> :-)
[23:34] <phillw> jono: I hope life is treating you well?
[23:36] <jono> phillw, good thanks :-)
[23:36] <jono> just too much email, but that is always the case :-)
[23:38] <phillw> jono: join the club, and I bet I get a fraction of what you get :D
[23:40] <phillw> I'm glad that the email I sent you met with your approval. 
[23:40] <jono> phillw, totally :-)
[23:40] <UndiFineD> jono, a shame your stream was so bad
[23:40] <UndiFineD> I would have loved to listen a bit more
[23:41] <UndiFineD> congrats on the donation
[23:42] <phillw> jono: I will never forget http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/19/the-ubuntu-ethos/  It is on my Signature, although may be getting replaced with hajour's poem.
[23:44] <jono> phillw, :-)
[23:44] <jono> UndiFineD, so bad?
[23:45] <UndiFineD> i heard 3 seconds of speech and then another 5 secs delay
[23:45] <jono> ahhh
[23:47] <UndiFineD> and for some reason chromium chooses to use cpu of the charts,
[23:47] <UndiFineD> it is not my bandwidth
[23:49] <phillw> UndiFineD: my American friend booked extra bandwidth for his Apache ceremony (He's native American), but the server just got flooded with people logging on. It was almost like a DDoS except it was people who wanted to watch and listen.
[23:50] <UndiFineD> yeah, those are the best ddosses
[23:50] <UndiFineD> happens to the podcast too
[23:50] <UndiFineD> which is why I like to see more use of round robin dns
[23:51] <phillw> live streams are always a problem, how much bandwidth and server CPU time do you buy?
[23:51] <JanC> simple RRDNS is a workaround, not a solution...  ;)
[23:53] <UndiFineD> but together we have all the bandwidth we need
[23:54] <phillw> If they could do it as they do with torrents, that would be a massive step forward. You have a few leeches on the main feed then seeding it out.
[23:55] <UndiFineD> torrented gobby ?
[23:55] <phillw> torrenting things like jono's speech at UDS-N
[23:55] <JanC> it would be more useful if multicast was implemented all over the internet...  ;)
[23:55] <phillw> but in real time
[23:56] <JanC> then the hosting server would have no more outgoing streams than it has gateways (in most cases: 1)
[23:56] <UndiFineD> heh JanC but they (provider) love to charge
[23:57] <JanC> UndiFineD: this would cut costs for providers too
[23:57] <JanC> except that they would need to buy new network equipment  ;)
[23:58] <JanC> IIRC IPv6 has better multicast support too (but I'm not a specialist in that)
[23:58] <phillw> JanC: there are enough arguments going on about the 'free' transfer of video from server to server at the moment. We can only hope to find a temporary fix within the free community whilst the "Big Boys" argues it out
[23:59] <phillw> I do not want to see a two tier system, which is what the current argument seems to be about.