[00:04] <hggdh> argh! Now I was hit by a hidden timeout
[00:04]  * hggdh restarts the whole shebang after increasing the timeout to an absurd 60 minutes
[00:18] <hggdh> so. 126 builds so far, each taking at least 20 minutes
[00:18] <hggdh> s/126/26/
[00:19] <charlie-tca> Isn't that going to take a long time ? ;-)
[00:20] <hggdh> well, it should have been just one or two builds
[00:23] <charlie-tca> Oh, well. No problem then... full basket :-)
[02:50] <mrlinux> Hey guys. I just noticed that Ubuntu minimal CD doesn't come with the ath9k drivers/modules - which prevents me from using it on my netbook that has Atheros ethernet card.
[02:50] <micahg> mrlinux: what about the live cd?
[02:51] <mrlinux> micahg: that works fine.
[02:52] <mrlinux> the curious thing is that even Debian netinstall CD has the same problem. Apparently, the drivers were not added by us/canonical when we/they released the debian netinstall as ubuntu minimal.
[02:52] <micahg> mrlinux: so, the minimal cd is meant to be minimal, it can't have all the drivers
[02:53] <mrlinux> nope.. the minimal is supposed to just boot up and install a barely bootable system with apt/aptitude.. and you are expected to install your requirements on it.
[02:54] <micahg> mrlinux: idk if the minimal CD is meant for netbooks, does it have other wireless drivers?
[02:55] <mrlinux> I don't expect wireless drivers to be installed... since its a minimal CD
[02:56] <mrlinux> but even the hardwire ethernet doesn't work.
[02:56] <mrlinux> basically it doesn't recognize the atheros ethernet card.
[02:56] <micahg> mrlinux: wired ethernet would be a problem
[02:57] <mrlinux> yep.. which is preventing me from installing it :-( I only use very few programs and I don't like to install a full fledged distro like fluxbuntu or xubuntu either.
[02:58] <micahg> mrlinux: I'd suggest filing a bug against ubuntu-minimal (probably not the right place, but they should know where it goes)
[03:00] <mrlinux> cool, I just wanted to make sure that it is a bug :-) Sure, I will file it... but I don't know how to do it online, would you please point me to a link where I can file it online?
[03:18] <charlie-tca> !bugs
[03:18] <ubot2> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[03:19] <charlie-tca> there is a link in the middle of that
[08:14] <c2tarun> how can i directly look for untriaged bugs in launchpad??
[08:16] <micahg> c2tarun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New  <-- this is most of them
[08:16] <micahg> c2tarun: notare all are untriaged, but most
[08:16] <micahg> *most are
[08:17] <c2tarun> ok thanks :)
[08:59] <c2tarun> i triaged this bug #687156 reproduced it and marked it confirmed. what now??
[08:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 687156 in pitivi (Ubuntu) "Pitivi gives an error importing MPEG files (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687156
[09:14] <layn> Hi
[10:59] <waschtl> hi folks - I think I found a bug in maverick in the kernel portion of ebtables
[11:00] <waschtl> the command 'ebtables -A OUTPUT -p arp -o eth0.20 -j DROP' causes a kernel oops followed by a kernel panic
[11:00] <waschtl> has anybody seen this before?
[11:01] <waschtl> the kernel log is at http://pastie.org/1358450
[11:01] <waschtl> relevance begins at [ 1105.953771]
[15:28] <c2tarun> need help in triaging bug #687303 . how can i reproduce it??
[15:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 687303 in totem (Ubuntu) "video can't play but sound can be heard (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687303
[15:30] <charlie-tca> If you know where to download an mp4 video, you download it and install totem to play it. Is mp4 video or just audio?
[15:31] <charlie-tca> You can also mark it incomplete and ask the reporter for the url to get the mp4 used
[15:31] <njin> eppe84: non c'è !
[15:31] <c2tarun> charlie: here comes the problem, i m using lucid, bug is reported in maverick. i have a chroot of natty created with pbuilder, but no desktop env installed in it, so totem player cannot be played.
[15:32] <charlie-tca> Then skip that bug and find one you can reproduce. There are other people that will be able to work that one
[15:33] <c2tarun> charlie: hmm... most of the bugs are reported in maverick and natty. I have to skip most of the bugs then :(
[15:34] <charlie-tca> the answer is to use VirtualBox, maybe? or just upgrade your system to maverick
[15:35] <c2tarun> ok, i'll try virtual box. just one more help please. which version should i use into virtual box? natty or maverick??
[15:36] <charlie-tca> I would install natty, but with the idea it is sometimes broken and won't work for any bugs involving unity and compiz.
[15:36] <c2tarun> ok thanks :)
[15:38] <charlie-tca> I prefer to know if the issues actually exist in the latest development release. Many times they get fixed, but not fixed in the old release.
[15:38] <c2tarun> charlie: how can i know that??
[15:40] <charlie-tca> Testing in natty shows if the bug still exists in that. Since Natty is the development release now, if the bug is fixed in it, we can tell the reporter that we can not reproduce it there.
[15:41] <c2tarun> on ubuntu.com natty is not available for download. where can i get it??
[15:41] <charlie-tca> heh
[15:41] <charlie-tca> !daily
[15:41] <ubot2> Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:43] <njin_> today build of alternate in /daily/ don't work /dependencies, latest desktop qorking iis 06 in /daily-live
[15:44] <charlie-tca> c2tarun: ^ ^ ^
[15:44] <charlie-tca> Thanks, njin
[15:44] <njin_> np
[15:44] <c2tarun> charlie: ya got it... thanks :)
[16:03] <CarlFK> c2tarun:  I have a daily natty box. want me to test something?
[16:04] <CarlFK> daily = installed natty about 8 hours ago
[16:04] <c2tarun> sure look download a mp4 file please
[16:07] <c2tarun> try this http://www.mp4point.com/downloads/63927132e120.zip
[16:07] <c2tarun> its a small mp4 file
[16:07] <c2tarun> CarlFK: u there??
[16:08] <CarlFK> ah, thanks.  was looking for a file.
[16:08] <CarlFK> zip?
[16:08] <c2tarun> yup... you can use unzip
[16:08] <CarlFK> media files generally don't compress
[16:08] <CarlFK> no biggie
[16:09] <c2tarun> still website is providing this way only. :|
[16:13] <c2tarun> CarlFK: u got the mp4 file??
[16:16] <bdmurray> pedro_: could you look at bug 654578?
[16:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654578 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Returned to gdm screen after logging in (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654578
[16:17] <CarlFK> c2tarun: got it, on phone...
[16:19] <c2tarun> CarlFK;ok :)
[16:37] <c2tarun> If a bug is posted in a language other than english, what should we mark that bug: Invalid or Incomplete??
[16:39] <paultag> c2tarun: see if you can get someone to translate it if it looks valid. use translate.google and get a rough idea
[16:40] <c2tarun> paultag: but for translating using google tag, we need to know the native language... :/
[16:40] <yofel> c2tarun: google translate has an auto detection, try that
[16:41] <paultag> +1 yofel
[16:41] <c2tarun> I tried, its detecting english only....  check this:   http://translate.google.com/#auto|en|Re-bonjour%2C%0A%0AUn%20autre%20probl%C3%A8me%20de%20crash%20provoqu%C3%A9%20par%20swfdec%20apparemment.%0AJe%20viens%20de%20recompiler%20les%20derniers%20sources%20d%27ella.%0A%0ACi-dessous%20la%20log%20de%20ella.%0A%0ACordialement%2C%0AZebulon%0A%0A--------------------------------------------------------------%0A%0Avaleur%20maxi%20200%0Afind%20pile%20titre%20%3
[16:41] <c2tarun> ET2%3C%0Aajout%20de%20%3AT2%3C%0Anbre%20total%20valeurs%20ds%20func%20text%20sprite%3A1%0Afind%20pile%20titre%20%3ER1%3C%0Aajout%20de%20%3AR1%3C%0Afind%20pile%20titre%20%3ET2%3C%0Afind%20pile%20titre%20%3ER1%3C%0A%22%2Ftmp%2Fella-temp.sc%22%2C%20line%2013%20column%208%3A%20warning-%20As%20of%20version%200.8.2%20using%20the%20.change%20command%20to%20modify%20an%20object%27s%20position%20on%20the%20stage%20is%20considered%20deprecated.%20Future%20version
[16:41] <c2tarun> s%20may%20consider%20x%20and%20y%20parameters%20for%20the%20.change%20command%20to%20be%20illegal%3B%20please%20use%20the%20.move%20command.%0A%22%2Ftmp%2Fella-temp.sc%22%2C%20line%2015%20column%2016%3A%20warning-%20As%20of%20version%200.8.2%20using%20the%20.change%20command%20to%20modify%20an%20object%27s%20position%20on%20the%20stage%20is%20considered%20deprecated.%20Future%20versions%20may%20consider%20x%20and%20y%20parameters%20for%20the%20.change%2
[16:41] <c2tarun> 0command%20to%20be%20illegal%3B%20please%20use%20the%20.move%20command.%0A%0A%28ella%3A15696%29%3A%20Swfdec-CRITICAL%20**%3A%20swfdec_player_set_renderer%3A%20assertion%20%60SWFDEC_IS_PLAYER%20%28player%29%27%20failed%0AErreur%20de%20segmentation
[16:41] <c2tarun> sorry i should have used pastebin
[16:42] <paultag> Holy jesus
[16:42] <paultag> c2tarun: just send the bug number
[16:42] <yofel> and we're planning to convert non-english bugs into questions on the answer tracker with the correct language set in the future
[16:42] <c2tarun> #687398
[16:42] <yofel> lp 687398
[16:42] <hggdh> bug 687398
[16:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 687398 in ella "Autre exemple de Crash (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687398
[16:43] <hggdh> another example of crash
[16:43] <paultag> that looks like french
[16:43] <hggdh> it is french
[16:43] <hggdh> why invalid?
[16:43] <paultag> +1 hggdh
[16:44] <paultag> the french loco hats us enough because LP is not translated :)
[16:44] <c2tarun> sorry hggdh i didn't know what we should mark the bugs not in english.
[16:44] <paultag> hates *
[16:44]  * yofel notes that's not really our job since it's not a bug in Ubuntu
[16:44] <yofel> anyway, google translate should work fine with french
[16:45] <paultag> whoh, really great catch. I did not even look
[16:45] <hggdh> indeed -- it was opened against ella upstream, not Ubuntu
[16:45] <c2tarun> google tranlstor translated it. what should i do now??
[16:45] <paultag> nothing
[16:45] <paultag> c2tarun: the lead on that project speaks french
[16:45] <paultag> c2tarun: lp ~xapantu
[16:46] <paultag> actually, same with the top 3 contributors
[16:46] <hggdh> I reset it to New
[16:46] <paultag> thanks hggdh :)
[16:46] <hggdh> c2tarun: we should not touch bugs that are not in Ubuntu
[16:46] <c2tarun> sorry paultag what is "lp ~xapantu"??
[16:46] <paultag> c2tarun: ubuntu-bugs should only be doing ubuntu bugs, since that's not a bug with ubuntu ( ubuntu/+source/<foo> ), avoid it, it's someone else's project's bug ( Launchpad is not just for Ubuntu )
[16:47] <yofel> c2tarun: ~xapantu is the user ID on launchpad -> https://launchpad.net/~xapantu
[16:47] <c2tarun> hggdh: sorry, from next time i'll take care of this.
[16:47] <hggdh> c2tarun: no probs :-)
[16:47] <paultag> live and learn
[16:47] <paultag> :)
[16:47] <hggdh> BTW, it is an easy French (well, OK, if you speak the language)
[16:47] <charlie-tca> c2tarun: bugs we work have (ubuntu) after the "affects "
[16:48] <charlie-tca> that one is in "Ella" with out the (ubuntu)
[16:48] <c2tarun> charlie-tca: ya i noticed it just now :(
[16:48] <paultag> hggdh: I don't speak French, but I could get the gist of it :)
[16:48] <paultag> funny how that works
[16:48] <hggdh> paultag: heh
[16:49] <CarlFK> cats..mp4 - ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=H264 Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
[16:49] <CarlFK> mplayer plays it, but totem says "need to get codec"
[16:50] <c2tarun> CarlFK: if possible let totem player download the codec.
[16:50] <CarlFK> k - wasn't sure it we expected it to work out of the box
[16:52] <c2tarun> CarlFK: please check if totem is playing it after downloading codecs or not....
[16:54] <CarlFK> c2tarun: "need codec ... (cancel) (search)"  I hit search, it closes the dialog and plays the audio, video is  visualization of audio - same as if I hit 'cancel'
[16:54] <CarlFK> rebooting the box.  I may reinstall without mplayer
[16:56] <c2tarun> this was the bug. only audio is coming no video output... i am confirming the bug. OK
[16:56] <c2tarun> CarlFK: u there?? should i mark the bug confirmed??
[17:02] <CarlFK> c2tarun: kinda.  let me gather some more details first.  which often leads me to realizing my tests are screwy, so don't mark it just yet
[17:08] <CarlFK> oh hell, #687303 is reported against 10.10 - does it matter I am using natty?
[17:10] <yofel> vish: there? got a papercuts question
[17:11] <vish> yoasif: o/
[17:11] <vish> oops! yofel: ^
[17:11] <yofel> heh
[17:11] <charlie-tca> CarlFK: It is better if you can make it work in Natty
[17:12] <charlie-tca> or even reproduce the issue in Natty
[17:12] <CarlFK> either way, I think I have a 2nd bug to report: http://dpaste.de/piPe/
[17:12] <CarlFK> charlie-tca: repoduced in natty, plus that.
[17:12] <vish> hggdh: your student ojap seems to have not subscribed to the mentor mailing list.. i guess he has lost interest..
[17:12] <charlie-tca> reproduced in Natty means the bug can be triaged
[17:12] <CarlFK> c2tarun: mark #687303 confirmed
[17:13] <CarlFK> I'll do a clean natty install and log that python stack dump
[17:13] <yofel> I saw some people fixing package descriptions - like bug 602671. Are those debdiffs supposed to be applied to ubuntu? If yes, your folks need to subscribe ubuntu-sponsors, since the review team will focus on getting that into debian, it doesn't meed the importance for a deban/ubuntu delta IMHO
[17:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602671 in p7zip (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Description: p7zip (affects: 5) (heat: 26)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602671
[17:13] <yofel> s/meed/meet/
[17:13] <vish> yofel: ssj6akshat sent the bug to debian..
[17:14] <charlie-tca> CarlFK: wonder if that is related to the python2.7 upgrades happening now?
[17:14] <vish> i guess we need to track the debian bug#
[17:14] <vish> yofel: we should be sending the patch to debian first..
[17:15] <yofel> vish: there's no indication of that on the bug, and if you're sending patches upstream please follow the patch workflow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/ReviewGuide
[17:15] <vish> yofel: hmm, review guide?
[17:16] <CarlFK> charlie-tca: i know a bit of py.  wtf: try:  from aptdaemon.defer import inline_callbacks except ImportError:  pass
[17:16]  * vish a bit confused.. 
[17:16] <vish> ssj6akshat: what is the debian bug# there?
[17:16] <CarlFK> im sure there is a good reason for that... lets see whats wrong with aptdaemon.defer...
[17:16] <yofel> vish: it's the review teams job to handle patches, so if you don't follow our workflow WHILE we're subscribed to the bug it's inconvenient for us
[17:16] <vish> yofel: i'm in the review team as well.. ;)
[17:17] <yofel> vish: well, at least add the tags :P
[17:17] <vish> yofel: yea.. i'm still waiting on ssj6akshat . he sent the bug, and had some trouble there.. not sure what the status is..
[17:17] <yofel> np
[17:18] <vish> ^ha! :)
[17:21] <vish> bad freenode! everyone is timing out.. :s
[17:21] <CarlFK> charlie-tca: aptdaemon.defer does not exit.  on my maverick box it does, and it's header says """Simplified Twisted Deferreds."""
[17:21] <yofel> haha
[17:22] <yofel> vish: what confused me actually was essentially seing a debdiff a) flagged as a patch b) not having ubuntu-sponsors subscribed so I wondered what your guys workflow there was
[17:23] <vish> yofel: yea, it's his first bug and he is still trying to get the hang of it.. :)
[17:23] <charlie-tca> CarlFK: way over my head. May have to wait for the 2.7 changes to be completed, though. At least, right now, upgrades are broken from maverick to natty by this
[17:23] <vish> yofel: btw, a debdiff too gets tagged as 'patch' , but usually someone subscribes the sponsors..
[17:23] <yofel> vish: np, good to have new people around :)
[17:24] <vish> yup..
[17:24] <micahcowan> Are merge requests strongly preferred over debdiffs (when applicable)?
[17:24] <c2tarun> vish: you are also in review team right. if some one fixed the bug and posted a patch which is verified by reviewing team? what after that? some one will take the patch from there and make a new debian package??
[17:24] <vish> micahcowan: well, if the project is in lp.. a merge is easier
[17:25] <charlie-tca> CarlFK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-December/032224.html
[17:25] <micahcowan> fair enough (heading to work)
[17:26] <vish> c2tarun: thats where things get fuzzy.. we should usually send the patch upstream..
[17:27] <vish> i actually like how kubuntu does their work..
[17:27] <c2tarun> vish: so that's it. we just triage the bug. a developer will fix it and release the patch and review team will send it to upstream. is this all process??
[17:28] <vish> for any upstream bug, lp bug is closed and no one is confused.. but Ubuntu everyone submits patches in lp and they dont know where the patch needs to go...
[17:28] <CarlFK> charlie-tca: thanks.
[17:29] <charlie-tca> Hope it explains better than me
[17:29] <yofel> vish: not *any*, high/critical bugs are usually still tracked since they get a kubuntu_XX_... patch added to the package
[17:29] <yofel> but all usability bugs and crashes all go to bugs.kde.org
[17:29] <yofel> -1 all
[17:30] <vish> yofel: oh! but those are very minimal i guess.. still your workflow is much better
[17:30] <yofel> right, that's a last resort if upstream won't make it
[17:30] <vish> if it was the same for Ubuntu too, we would have had less of this 'Land of the Lost patches' mess
[17:32] <vish> c2tarun: yup..
[17:32] <c2tarun> vish: so in this whole process where comes the MOTU members??
[17:33] <yofel> c2tarun: well, while we're triaging the bug we're also sending the bug upstream, so ideally it should be the upstream devs that fix it in the first place
[17:33] <vish> c2tarun: well.. *i* dint write the review process.. so better ask the people who wrote it.. ;)
[17:34] <c2tarun> vish: do you asking this question in the team will do any good???
[17:34] <yofel> vish: what makes it easier for us too is that we don't use apport for KDE, drkonqi is better anyway, firefox uses their own crash handler too now
[17:34] <c2tarun> vish: do you think asking this question in the team will do any good???
[17:34] <vish> c2tarun: not sure i understand the question..
[17:36] <yofel> weren't MOTU about getting packages into universe and merging new packages from debain?
[17:36] <yofel> *debian
[17:36] <vish> yofel: oh, so drkonqi is basically the KDE apport?
[17:36] <vish> yofel: yup, MOTU maintain those packages..
[17:36] <c2tarun> vish: sorry u got me wrong, i m not saying u not understanding the question, i mean is there anyone on team who write the review process?? :)
[17:36] <vish> c2tarun: which team?
[17:36] <c2tarun> the alpha bug squad team :\
[17:37] <vish> c2tarun: why would someone from the bugsquad team write the review team? ;)  wouldnt someone from the review team have written the review workflow? :)
[17:38] <hggdh> the review process was written mostly by devs (MOTU, core, etc)
[17:38] <vish>  write the review s/ team/ workflow
[17:38] <yofel> vish: drkonqi with my natty k3b crash: http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/konqi1.png http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/konqi2.png - when you click on report bug you fill in your crash details, username and pw and the crash gets sent to bugs.kde.org
[17:38] <c2tarun> vish: hmm.... so the easiest way to get the answer is to ask this question in #ubuntu-motu
[17:39] <hggdh> I am somewhat lost. What is the question?
[17:40] <vish> hggdh: not really.. but pers-i-a was involved too, so a dev though..
[17:40] <c2tarun> hggdh: we triage the bugs, some one fixes it and releases a patch => review team verifies the patch and sends it upstream => in this whole process where are the MOTU members??
[17:41] <vish> i think pers-i-a was the only 'dev' who helped.. i dont think he is core though.
[17:41] <hggdh> c2tarun: hopefully, reviewing the patches
[17:41] <hggdh> vish: yes, he was involved. But Daniel was also there, and others
[17:41] <c2tarun> hggdh: hmm....
[17:42] <yofel> vish: currently it's mostly daniel and nigel maintaining the team I think
[17:42] <hggdh> c2tarun: and taking care of new syncs/merges/issues on the development release
[17:42] <c2tarun> hggdh: OK
[17:43] <vish> yofel: so the form we fill it in that window, no interaction with lp or bugzilla?
[17:43] <hggdh> mostly, of course, on the Universe (where MOTUs are expected to be quite active)
[17:44] <yofel> vish: for reporting crash no, if you want to file a regular bug then konqi will only add some system information and send you to bugzilla
[17:44] <yofel> *crashes
[17:44] <vish> ah!
[17:44] <vish> yay! you use a black theme too! :)
[17:45] <yofel> :D
[17:45]  * vish among the very few such black sheep...
[17:46] <vish> ssj6akshat: welcome back! ;)
[17:47] <vish> ssj6akshat: have you been able to forward the p7zip bug to debian?
[18:08] <Orpheon> Hello?
[18:08] <yofel> hello Orpheon
[18:09] <Orpheon> I'm comletly new here
[18:09] <Orpheon> I'm completly new here
[18:09] <yofel> then welcome to the home of the ubuntu bugsquad, how can we help you?
[18:10] <Orpheon> What is a bug day? I got the email saying I should go here
[18:11] <yofel> a bug day is where we triagers gather here to focus on a specific package/task, the next one is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20101209 for which you probably got the mail
[18:11] <Orpheon> thanks
[18:13] <Orpheon> Is there anything specific I should know?
[18:14] <yofel> Orpheon: if you want to help us see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs and especially https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage which shows our workflow, and come back for any questions, I'm sure you'll have them ;)
[18:16] <Orpheon> I'm reading both of them right now :) . Isn't there anyone else?
[18:16] <Orpheon> here?
[18:16] <c2tarun> Orpheon: we all are here :)
[18:16] <Orpheon> sorry
[18:16] <yofel> sure, most probably just busy triaging or doing something else ;)
[18:16] <c2tarun> np
[18:16] <Orpheon> oh
[18:17] <yofel> Orpheon: if you have a quesiton just ask it, when someone knows the answer they'll answer you when they look at the channel again
[18:18] <Orpheon> I'll read a bit first
[21:17] <rusivi> Regarding bug 620290, while I am not here to question package maintainers as they know WAAYYYY more about their package than I, the Fix Released status was assigned incorrectly without verifying the result.
[21:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 620290 in vlc (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "vlc-1.1.2: please enable reading bookmarks from saved playlists (affects: 1) (heat: 39)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620290
[21:18] <rusivi> This non-verification was self-admitted by the status toggler.
[21:18] <rusivi> Uhhhhh little lost....
[21:24] <charlie-tca> rusivi: did you verify that the issue still exists in maverick/natty?
[21:24] <micahg> rusivi: it was the upstream maintainer who said it was fixed in 1.1.4, so since maverick has 1.1.4 it was marked fix released
[21:25] <rusivi> Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote on 2010-11-27: 	#5
[21:25] <rusivi> assumed fixed in VLC 1.1.4 in Meerkat
[21:25] <rusivi> Changed in vlc (Ubuntu):
[21:25] <rusivi> status: 	Incomplete → Fix Released
[21:25] <rusivi> Assumed, not verified.
[21:25] <charlie-tca> Did you try to reproduce the issue in maverick?
[21:25] <charlie-tca> Since he is the maintainer, he can assume that.
[21:26] <rusivi> Not making a big deal about it, just bringing it up cause I'm subscribed and wanted to know what you thought.
[21:26] <rusivi> charlie-tca/micahg: then so be it and thanks for gut-check.
[21:27] <charlie-tca> upstream maintainer can sign it off that way. He is assuming ubuntu did the sync to get the package he fixed
[23:06] <cm-t> hi, i got a probleme with the touch on my «HP Touchsmart TX2» since an update ~15 days ago ( i just made a fesh install + new /home same pbl happennig after update). i don't know what package doing this, should i report on  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect  or?
[23:07] <micahg> cm-t: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[23:08] <cm-t> by touch i mean touch screen (finger+stylus) + touchpad + usb mouse, it is ok micah
[23:08] <cm-t> ?
[23:08] <cm-t> Something wrong with usb mouse→ after a time left clic doesn't work (but if i use finger, it re-works for a time)
[23:08] <cm-t> With stylus, the left clic is forced; i can remove stylus from screen clic stay and only finger use or {ESC} will break the clic
[23:09] <cm-t> (sorry for my approximativ english)
[23:11] <micahg> cm-t: idk, there should be some instruction on that wiki page about what packages are involved
[23:11] <cm-t> ah didnt saw it was a wiki.   im reading
[23:51] <hggdh> wow! my nm-applet is using 190M of real memory!