| jeremyA | is anyone still running Lucid? or has everyone updated to Maverick? | 02:23 |
|---|---|---|
| tonyyarusso | Nope, still Lucid on everything here. | 02:26 |
| jeremyA | I've got a 64-bit install. | 02:27 |
| jeremyA | AMD Athlon X2 5400+ w/8GB RAM, lots of disk | 02:27 |
| jeremyA | ran for two years on 8.04.x stably | 02:27 |
| jeremyA | I upgraded to 10.04 so I could try out KVM | 02:27 |
| jeremyA | and now the thing is hard hanging a couple of times per day | 02:27 |
| tonyyarusso | Weird. | 02:27 |
| jeremyA | I've got it loaded with noacpi as a kernel argument now | 02:27 |
| jeremyA | but that doesn't seem to help | 02:28 |
| jeremyA | nothing gets logged in dmesg or /var/log/messages | 02:28 |
| jeremyA | and there is no apparent slowdown before it halts | 02:28 |
| tonyyarusso | Try running a command-line-only system for a few hours and see if anything happens. (To distinguish between a graphics driver problem and something else) | 02:28 |
| jeremyA | it _is_ command line only | 02:28 |
| jeremyA | headless setup, usually | 02:29 |
| tonyyarusso | oh | 02:29 |
| jeremyA | I've got a cheapo 15" lcd plugged into it now, to read the text consoles. | 02:29 |
| tonyyarusso | Well now that ain't good. | 02:29 |
| jeremyA | when it dies, it deactivates the VGA too | 02:29 |
| jeremyA | and takes my cheapo usb-based KVM switch with it, too | 02:29 |
| tonyyarusso | Anything in /var/crash/ | 02:29 |
| tonyyarusso | ? | 02:29 |
| jeremyA | ooh, I'll check | 02:29 |
| jeremyA | nope, dead empty | 02:29 |
| tonyyarusso | crud | 02:29 |
| jeremyA | /var/log/kern* hasn't a thing either | 02:29 |
| tonyyarusso | /var/log/debug? | 02:30 |
| tonyyarusso | /var/log/faillog? | 02:30 |
| jeremyA | debug drops off after xinetd started after the last crash and starts up again with a kernel entry... | 02:31 |
| jeremyA | Dec 7 16:38:11 localhost xinetd[2567]: removing time | 02:31 |
| jeremyA | Dec 7 19:48:13 localhost kernel: [ 0.000000] e820 update range: 0000000000000000 - 0000000000010000 (usable) ==> (reserved) | 02:31 |
| jeremyA | Dec 7 19:48:13 localhost kernel: [ 0.000000] MTRR default type: uncachable | 02:31 |
| jeremyA | nope, only two failed logins listed in /var/log/faillog -- root on 06/20/10, and me on 06/25/09 | 02:31 |
| jeremyA | this thing is knocking the tar out of me | 02:32 |
| tonyyarusso | Any chance it's actually a hardware problem that coincidentally is happening after the OS upgrade? | 02:32 |
| jeremyA | conceivable. | 02:32 |
| jeremyA | cpuburn didn't turn up any heating problems | 02:32 |
| jeremyA | dang this is my external gateway. | 02:32 |
| jeremyA | when I go to bed tonight, I'll bring it down and fire up memtest86+ | 02:33 |
| jeremyA | I'm worried that it could be a SATA controller going, or mobo failing. | 02:34 |
| jeremyA | after burning 3 days on this, I'm thinking I'm getting to the point where I could throw a new machine at the problem. | 02:34 |
| tonyyarusso | Does your hard drive support SMART? | 02:35 |
| jeremyA | yeah, they're all working AOK | 02:35 |
| jeremyA | though I don't trust SMART too far. | 02:35 |
| tonyyarusso | 'k | 02:35 |
| jeremyA | it's kind of dumb when it comes to predicting errors | 02:36 |
| jeremyA | all six satas say they're aok. | 02:36 |
| jeremyA | but...it does make me wonder about power... | 02:37 |
| jeremyA | I wonder if my PS is acting up. | 02:37 |
| tonyyarusso | You could always read through all of the posts on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787 | 02:37 |
| tonyyarusso | ;) | 02:38 |
| tonyyarusso | (Although waiting for the next LTS might be faster.) | 02:38 |
| jeremyA | I went through the first 25 pages of that, then skipped ahead to the end | 02:39 |
| jeremyA | where people say "huh. no solution found." | 02:39 |
| jeremyA | mainly because I think there are a lot of different root causes | 02:39 |
| tonyyarusso | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FaultyHardware might be useful, although it sounds like you already knew these. | 02:41 |
| jeremyA | 500watt powersupply for six sata drives...I wonder if I'm pushing my luck here | 02:44 |
| tonyyarusso | Care to list off what else you have in there? (PCI cards, fans, etc.) | 02:47 |
| jeremyA | Intel PCI-express NIC | 02:47 |
| jeremyA | that's it | 02:47 |
| tonyyarusso | Not a single fan eh? That could be your problem too :P | 02:47 |
| jeremyA | a dvd burner that's not even plugged in, because I'm out of sata cables | 02:47 |
| jeremyA | hahaha | 02:48 |
| jeremyA | =) | 02:48 |
| jeremyA | got me. | 02:48 |
| jeremyA | okay, fan on the back | 02:48 |
| jeremyA | nice big quiet fan on the CPU | 02:48 |
| jeremyA | I'd have to look to see if there are others | 02:48 |
| jeremyA | I'm seeing posts on forums, telling me that other people consider 6 drives on a single 500w P/S to be pushing the envelope | 02:49 |
| tonyyarusso | jeremyA: what socket is that Athlon? | 02:52 |
| jeremyA | AM2+ I think | 02:55 |
| jeremyA | am2 | 02:55 |
| jeremyA | sitting in a biostar a740G M2+ motherboard | 02:55 |
| jeremyA | with 8gb of ddr2 ram | 02:55 |
| jeremyA | 65watt Athlon 64X2 5400 brisbane dual-core | 02:56 |
| tonyyarusso | well this calculator doohickey just recommended 312W, so that doesn't seem bad yet. | 02:57 |
| jeremyA | wait'll we add in the drives... | 02:57 |
| tonyyarusso | that's with the drives, assuming 7200rpm | 02:57 |
| jeremyA | oh, okay. | 02:57 |
| jeremyA | hrm. | 02:57 |
| jeremyA | should be fine then | 02:57 |
| jeremyA | unless the P/S is failing | 02:57 |
| jeremyA | but it's usually not dying at periods of particularly heavy load | 02:57 |
| jeremyA | and I'm almost never over 4gb RAM usage | 02:58 |
| jeremyA | Mem: 8128336 4232644 3895692 0 41628 2135184 | 02:58 |
| jeremyA | two of these drives are ancient 160gb 7200rpm barracudas...but I don't think they'd be taking 100w of power each or anything | 03:00 |
| jeremyA | where'd you find the calculator, anyway? :) | 03:01 |
| tonyyarusso | google "PSU calculator", first result | 03:02 |
| jeremyA | thx | 03:03 |
| jeremyA | newegg has one, too: http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html | 03:07 |
| jeremyA | they're suggesting a 408w P/S for me. | 03:07 |
| jeremyA | tonyyarusso: are all your machines Intel hardware? | 03:22 |
| tonyyarusso | jeremyA: Nope. I'm typing on an AMD Phenom II X4 905e machine currently. | 03:22 |
| jeremyA | okay, good to know | 03:23 |
| jeremyA | I've been reading through that thread, and noticed a guy saying "lucid only freezes on my AMD hardware" | 03:23 |
| tonyyarusso | The rest are, unless you count the ARM gadget. | 03:23 |
| jeremyA | interestingly, I noted that the BIOS had the ACPI set to to v1. I set it to v2 when it was down last, and deactivated the onboard sound | 03:25 |
| tonyyarusso | I have a board here that's on v2 now, but has an option for v3. | 03:27 |
| jeremyA | yeah, I have to take the gateway down to refsck a disk once my wife is done checking email | 03:27 |
| jeremyA | but since I'm booted with noacpi, I don't think the acpi version that BIOS is using should matter | 03:27 |
| jeremyA | bbiab | 03:28 |
| jeremyA | so...how the heck do I enabled the --mark-- in rsyslog? | 03:54 |
| jeremyA | I put these lines in /etc/rsyslog.conf | 03:55 |
| jeremyA | $ModLoad immark # provides --MARK-- message capability | 03:55 |
| jeremyA | $MarkMessagePeriod 60 | 03:55 |
| jeremyA | but nowhere in any logfile do I find my MARKs | 03:55 |
| jeremyA | whoops, my bad | 03:55 |
| jeremyA | there they are in kern.log | 03:55 |
| jeremyA | not in messages where I expected them | 03:55 |
| * jeremyA <-- dummie | 03:55 | |
| jeremyA | hey, tonyyarusso, you around? | 18:57 |
| tonyyarusso | jeremyA: kinda - at work, but yes. | 19:18 |
| jeremyA | do any of your amd machines use tsc as a clocksource? | 19:21 |
| jeremyA | after upgrading to the 2.6.34 kernel, I got a note about my tsc clocksource being unstable. | 19:21 |
| jeremyA | so I've set it to use clocksource=hpet on the next book | 19:21 |
| tonyyarusso | um, I have no idea. I've never touched anything like that. | 19:24 |
| * tonyyarusso uses default kernels and such | 19:24 | |
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