[01:46] <thafreak> Unit193: is it a scsi disk? That's odd that it's not detecting the disk
[01:47] <Unit193> Normal 6G IDE (gray cable)
[01:51] <Unit193> I had Ubuntu installed on that HD (had issues)
[01:51] <thafreak> well, scsi was also a gray cable :) it's just 50 pin instead of 40 pin
[01:52] <thafreak> you have a blue and white g3 right? I have one in my basement too...been thinking about messing with it
[02:03] <canthus13> Woo. bob is alive!
[02:08] <Unit193> thafreak: If you figure anything out....
[02:09] <canthus13> why the f*ck does udev rename interfaces when you swap motherboards? It's stupid and breaks things.
[02:10] <thafreak> canthus13: I know, it's worse with virtual machines when you clone one...
[02:10] <thafreak> you know the magic file to edit to fix it?
[02:10] <thafreak> obviously if you know udev is doing it, you probably do :)
[02:10] <thafreak> damn christmas ale is worth the wait
[02:13] <canthus13> thafreak: I edited /etc/interfaces.  It was the easiest route.
[02:14] <canthus13> ...meaning the first thing that came to mind.
[02:14]  * canthus13 knows there's a more correct way, but can't be bothered.
[02:15] <dmcglone> canthus13: why did you have to edit it?
[02:15] <canthus13> dmcglone: I swapped motherboards and udev renamed eth0 to eth1.
[02:15] <dmcglone> Ah thats good to know for future reference :-)
[02:15] <canthus13> speaking of which, this seems to be a hella good motherboard for the money so far....  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200500256324
[02:16] <canthus13> It boots crazy fast.  I had to reboot 3 times to get into BIOS.
[02:16] <canthus13> took 2-3 seconds to start booting GRUB.
[02:16] <canthus13> the screen wasn't even on all the way yet.
[02:17] <dmcglone> 45 bucks? dang
[02:18] <canthus13> dmcglone: I ordered it sunday.  They shipped it last night ~8pm.  It got here today at 1:30.
[02:18] <thafreak> canthus13: edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[02:19] <thafreak> it ties a device name to a mac address
[02:19] <canthus13> thafreak: That's right.. Someone in #debian pointed that out to me.
[02:19] <dmcglone> only 2 DIMM slots though
[02:19] <thafreak> after cloning vm's tons of times and having to figure that out on my own more than once, it's now burned into my brain
[02:19] <canthus13> dmcglone: Up to 8 gigs.
[02:20] <dmcglone> not bad
[02:20] <canthus13> dmcglone: It's a great motherboard for a workstation or media server.
[02:20] <canthus13> Not so much for high-end gaming, though.
[02:21] <dmcglone> VGA?
[02:21] <canthus13> yeah, but it's got an x16 slot.
[02:22] <dmcglone> does it have and for HDMI?
[02:22] <dmcglone> the picture doesn't enlarge :-/
[02:22] <canthus13> No. no hdmi.
[02:23] <dmcglone> :-(
[02:24] <canthus13> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=N68-S%20UCC&cat=Specifications
[02:26] <dmcglone> darn good motherboard for the price
[02:30] <thafreak> I love asrock
[02:30] <thafreak> my new fav mb brand...well asus is still my fav, but asrock is like asus's cheaper little cousin
[02:32] <canthus13> I've never seen a motherboard fire up a bootloader so fast before.
[02:50] <dmcglone> anyone hear that Assange was found and arrested
[02:51] <jacob> dmcglone: yeah, it's aggravating to see the things governments pull
[02:52] <dmcglone> yeah
[02:52] <dmcglone> they said that he failed to use a condom.. lol
[02:52] <jacob> hah
[02:53] <dmcglone> I wonder if all this was a publicity stunt
[02:53] <jacob> i'd be rather surprised if it was, it seems that many international governments want his head
[02:55] <dmcglone> true, but what can they do? what he does is perfectly legal
[02:55] <jacob> yeah
[02:55] <canthus13> Not in all countries.
[02:56] <canthus13> China could execute him under their laws, and many countries define what he's done as an act of espionage.
[02:56] <dmcglone> true canthus13 but he's only airing the U.S's dirty laundry
[02:56] <canthus13> dmcglone: No he's not. He's airing the dirty laundry of many different countries, including China, france, any anyone else who had private communications with our diplomats.
[02:57] <dmcglone> matter of fact, the documents he puts up is the same documents the government gives to journalists a couple weeks in advance to prepare their stories
[02:57] <canthus13> The cables he released may very will raise tensions in the middle east considerably.
[02:57] <canthus13> Several countries have urged the US to preemtively attack Iran.
[02:57] <canthus13> those cables were released.
[02:58] <dmcglone> I see
[02:58] <canthus13> there have been others dealing with china and north korea that have the potential to send north korea over the edge.
[02:59] <dmcglone> but I thought all this was public information?
[02:59] <canthus13> dmcglone: The bottom line is that there is the potential for a LOT of innocent people dying over this.
[03:00] <dmcglone> I've not seen the wiki leaks site, don't have the inclination to, but like I said, I thought all these docs were public already
[03:00] <canthus13> dmcglone: No. These were diplomatic cables that he released.  The assumption is that these are private conversations between diplomatic officials.
[03:01] <dmcglone> how did he get them in his hands then?
[03:01] <canthus13> a traitor.
[03:02] <dmcglone> have they taken wikileaks down?
[03:02] <dmcglone> i'll check now
[03:02] <canthus13> They've been playing whack-a-mole with it.
[03:03] <dmcglone> I see. it's not loading for me
[03:04] <canthus13> I think it's wikileaks.ch right now
[03:05] <dmcglone> ah it is
[03:06] <dmcglone> wonder what's gonna happen to him
[03:07] <BiosElement> Awesome...
[03:07] <BiosElement> While wikileaks is being banned from the US, the State Dept. announces World Press Freedom Day
[03:08] <dmcglone> sounds like a ruse
[03:09] <BiosElement> http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/12/152465.htm
[03:09] <BiosElement> " At the same time, we are concerned about the determination of some governments to censor and silence individuals, and to restrict the free flow of information."
[03:09] <BiosElement> ^LOL
[03:11] <dmcglone> if not a ruse, looks like Assange will walk.
[03:11] <dmcglone> lol
[03:12] <BiosElement> UNESCO is a joke anyway it seems
[03:14] <dmcglone> I just checked to see if Assange was on the FBI's most wanted list. haha
[03:14] <BiosElement> Hell with FBI, he's on interpol's most wanted.
[03:14] <BiosElement> And if some loud mouth congressmen have their way, he'll be labled a terrorist which means it's a federal offense to help him
[03:15] <dmcglone> in a way, if what he did wasn't public information, then that sounds like a terrorist :-/
[03:16] <BiosElement> Funny how 'due process' and 'rights' fly out the window when higher-ups get burned >.>
[03:17] <dmcglone> true
[03:17] <dmcglone> I think what he leaked should be public information
[03:17] <BiosElement> Nah, there's a legit reason for it being classified. but leaks of classified intel at times are good for keeping an eye on things.
[03:17] <dmcglone> I think we have every right to know these things
[03:18] <dmcglone> this country is supposed to be "for the people, by the people"
[03:18] <canthus13> This wasn't a leak. In my opinion, it was a deliberate attempt to cause chaos and possible wars.
[03:19] <BiosElement> Meh, If that's what they wanted, then if this is the best they've got, it's not gonna happen
[03:19] <dmcglone> might as well get it over with, it's gonna happen sooner or later
[03:19] <dmcglone> lol
[03:19] <canthus13> BiosElement:  Dunno.  There was stuff about iran and north korea that could potentially cause one or both of those countries to do something stupid. North Korea in particular.
[03:20] <dmcglone> I've had a hunch for a long time that we were gonna get Kim Jong soon!
[03:20] <BiosElement> canthus13, Meh, nothing new with iran and nothing really new with korea. It's just milidly embaressing. I've yet to see much that actually suprises anyone
[03:20] <canthus13> North Korea tends to react very badly to embarrassment.
[03:21] <dmcglone> I guarantee either after this war we'll be heading over to North Korea
[03:21] <canthus13> Most asian countries do.  And Iran may go after some of the countries that were urging attacks, or use the cables as an excuse for ramping up their nuclear program.
[03:21] <BiosElement> I don't really care, N.Korea doesn't need an excuse.
[03:21] <BiosElement> And if iran goes off they're toast. >.>
[03:22] <BiosElement> dmcglone, Leave NKorea to China. >.< They'll move before we have too.
[03:22] <canthus13> BiosElement: Not really. Iran's got the best missile capabilities in the world behind the US.
[03:22] <canthus13> No known nukes yet, but they've got the conventional arms and a growing sub fleet to wage a helluva war.
[03:23] <dmcglone> they just may, but I just have a feeling the U.S is just laying low because we don't have the resources to fight 2 wars
[03:23] <BiosElement> Meh, but they don't have the peoples backing.
[03:23] <canthus13> dmcglone: We aren't going after north korea because it would completely destroy the entire peninsula no matter who won.
[03:24] <BiosElement> If we leave NKorea alone lone enough, they'll fix themselves one way or another
[03:24] <canthus13> dmcglone: North Korea would do the same thing they did at the beginning of the Korean war, only there are a lot more people at risk this time.
[03:24] <BiosElement> *long
[03:24] <dmcglone> since when do politicians care about that sort of stuff
[03:24] <canthus13> if you remember right, the north rolled right down to the southern tip of the peninsula very quickly, backing up all the opposing forces into Inchon (I think that's the city)
[03:25] <canthus13> the next couple of years turned the entire peninsula into a big crater.
[03:25] <BiosElement> Yes, and then it went clear north canthus13
[03:25] <BiosElement> It was a total mess
[03:25] <BiosElement> And that was mostly because Russia and China supplied arms to NKorea
[03:26] <canthus13> BiosElement: Yep.  Well, china supplied troops, too. But North Korea has more arms and standing troops than the south by almost double. and we only have a very very small presence there now.. ~25k troops.
[03:26] <BiosElement> Our troops are just a tripwire
[03:27] <BiosElement> Without them we couldn't claim to be defending South Korea anyway. >.<
[03:27] <canthus13> Our troops are mostly in the south now. we've been pulling away form the DMZ for the most part, with the exception of the guys right there on the line.
[03:27] <BiosElement> And I didn't say I thought we should attack NKorea :P
[03:27] <BiosElement> But china's getting fed up with NKorea
[03:27] <canthus13> South Korea has a military almost as big as ours.
[03:28] <BiosElement> Well looking at NKorea, I can't say I blame them
[03:30] <dmcglone> trust is the issue with NK
[03:30] <BiosElement> No one trusts NK, for good reason. >.<
[03:31] <dmcglone> yup
[03:31] <dmcglone> matter of fact I don't trust any nation
[03:31] <BiosElement> Probably the most idiotic thing about wikileaks case though, is that regardless of how you feel about the leak, the gov. reaction is even worse
[03:32] <dmcglone> probably because of the unknown
[03:32] <BiosElement> Eh, freaken senators are calling for Assage to be assassinated. >.>
[03:32] <BiosElement> I think that's a tad over the top
[03:32] <dmcglone> where did you find this?
[03:33] <BiosElement> And shows what they really think of defending freedom of speech and the right to a legal trial.
[03:33] <BiosElement> Which?
[03:33] <dmcglone> the info on the assassination
[03:33] <BiosElement> Hang 1
[03:34] <BiosElement> Well I can probably find quite a few
[03:34] <BiosElement> Hangon...
[03:34] <BiosElement> Well here's a good one: http://xnepali.com/canadian-pm-advisor-wants-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-killed/
[03:34] <BiosElement> >.>
[03:34] <BiosElement> Quite a few senators said the same
[03:36] <dmcglone> gawd I can't stand Palin!
[03:37] <dmcglone> she's a freakin opportunist on someone else's hard work
[03:37] <BiosElement> >.< lets not get into a total rant but I'll agree with that heh
[03:38] <dmcglone> no rant here. she just makes my skin crawl
[03:38] <dmcglone> ever since she ran for president, her name is everywhere now
[03:39] <BiosElement> Oh yeah here we go
[03:39] <BiosElement> "So when U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman (Ind.-Conn.), chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, called Amazon officials this week to complain about the company's decision to host WikiLeaks on its cloud servers, Amazon quickly pulled the plug."
[03:39] <dmcglone> sad
[03:39] <BiosElement> Funny thing is with the iraqi war diaries he didn't vet or redact things and got yelled at a tad so he promised to go line-by-line through
[03:39] <BiosElement> He does that and this time they're wanting to execute him >.>
[03:40] <BiosElement> http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/12/07/joe-lieberman-calls-for-investigation-of-ny-times-over-wikileaks/
[03:40] <BiosElement> He also wants to go after the NYTimes
[03:41] <BiosElement> Has he ever heard about the Pentagon Papers perhaps? Has Joe ever opened a history book? >.>
[03:41] <dmcglone> haha
[03:42] <dmcglone> this is good stuff
[03:44] <dmcglone> "a crime of bad citizenship"? who's he think he is?
[03:44] <BiosElement> I know. Even ignoring the content itself, it's funny how, without a single actual court looking at this, everyone seems to think they're a judge >.>
[03:44] <dmcglone> oh yeah
[03:46] <dmcglone> well wiki leaks may fail at bringing us the "hidden truth" so to speak, but it sure did bring out the true person in all the politicians
[03:47] <BiosElement> Eh, I think the leaks themselves did some good too, but the reaction to the leaks is the real news in my books
[03:47] <dmcglone> thats what I'm saying
[03:48] <BiosElement> Yeah I know heh
[03:48] <canthus13> dmcglone: Oh wow. On a completely unrelated note, that motherboard will support Phenom II X6.
[03:48] <BiosElement> As of current, he is leading the poll for Time magazine's "Person of the Year, 2010".
[03:48] <BiosElement> >.>
[03:49] <BiosElement> Oh I see...
[03:49]  * canthus13 thinks moot deserved it more. :P
[03:49] <dmcglone> thats a good board canthus13
[03:49] <BiosElement> US State Dept. doesn't consider wikileaks a news orgnization
[03:49] <canthus13> dmcglone: Yeah. I'm thinking about grabbing a couple more of them to keep on hand.
[03:49] <BiosElement> But reporters without boarders, amnesty international and Centre of investigative journalism however say he is lol
[03:49] <dmcglone> save some for Mr and Mrs Clause.. ;-)
[03:50] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:51] <dmcglone> but he's receives the same documents as reporters do a couple weeks in advance from our Govt, so doesn't that make him a reporter
[03:51] <BiosElement> lol, well editors are considered 'reporters' too so he's a reporter :P
[03:51] <canthus13> No. If I receive medical equipment, does that make me a doctor?
[03:52] <dmcglone> no canthus, it make you a quack
[03:52] <dmcglone> lol
[03:52] <BiosElement> No, but legally editors are covered by reporter shield laws
[03:52] <BiosElement> >.>
[03:52] <canthus13> exactly.
[03:52] <canthus13> It's not a news site. it's a dumping ground for classified material that has gone way beyond a safe haven for whistleblowers.
[03:53] <BiosElement> canthus13, Reaction is overblown even if it's too far.
[03:53] <dmcglone> but canthus13 our government recognized him as a reporter "editor" or so so, because they sent him the docs along with other reporters
[03:53]  * canthus13 had no problem when all they were doing was providing a means to get out information that NEEDS to get out.  THe fact that saudi arabia was urging the US to attack iran didn't need to get out. it serves no useful purpose.
[03:54] <BiosElement> canthus13, But that informationis no suprise
[03:54] <BiosElement> Everyone knew this
[03:54] <BiosElement> It's irrelevent
[03:54]  * canthus13 shrugs.
[03:54] <BiosElement> It's like "Isreal wants to blow up Iran" Really...ya think? >.>
[03:54] <dmcglone> lol canthus13
[03:54] <canthus13> It doesn't matter. He stepped WAAAAY over the line with this.
[03:55] <BiosElement> Heh, if they push it too far the other 250-ish thousand unedited cables will be leaked too. The govs are all playing a risky game with that.
[03:55] <canthus13> The leaked gun cam video is one thing.. that stuff needed to be looked into. this, though... I agree that assassination is over the top, but low-level espionage charges are reasonable.
[03:56] <dmcglone> lets just cut his dick off. That should be punishment enough!!!
[03:56] <BiosElement> He's not a us citizen, nor does he have anything in the US. It's a joke to try that. >.< But then if you classify him as a terrorist he can be shipped off to hole somewhere. >.>
[03:56] <dmcglone> I'll go call Lorena Bobbitt
[03:57] <canthus13> BiosElement: Nah. Try him for espionage.  There aren't many countries left for him to hide in. He's pissed off a lot of folks.
[03:57] <BiosElement> No way it'll stick, too much legal precedent. >.> Much easier for him to just vanish.
[03:58] <dmcglone> the only folks he pissed off are the folks that don't want us to know the truth and just how dirty the governments can be
[03:58] <BiosElement> +1 dmcglone
[03:58] <canthus13> Eh? Legal precedent? Receiving classified material is espionage by most legal definitions.
[03:58] <BiosElement> No it's not. Press is protected from that.
[03:58] <canthus13> He's not press.
[03:59] <BiosElement> Sure he is
[03:59] <BiosElement> :P
[03:59] <BiosElement> See the problem?
[03:59] <canthus13> BiosElement: If I stand on the street corner screaming out the neighbor's secrets, I'm not a reporter. I'm an asshole. same thing here.
[03:59] <BiosElement> If organizations around the world recoginize wikleaks as a news org, it'll be damn hard to claim in court he's not and make it stick
[03:59] <BiosElement> canthus13, Do you have awards from amnesty international? >.>
[04:00] <canthus13> BiosElement: Amnesty international is a jok.
[04:00] <canthus13> +e
[04:00] <canthus13> They're right behind the nobel peace prize.
[04:00] <canthus13> and the UN.
[04:00] <dmcglone> here's what the problem is, he refuses to "cherry pick" the details that have icing on top and just throw it all out there instead, unlike the other people in the press
[04:00] <BiosElement> Problem is, it's a news org regardless of what spin anyone wants to give it. >.<
[04:00] <BiosElement> dmcglone, He did this time actually
[04:01] <BiosElement> dmcglone, They went through and censored out informants and such, as was requested by the white house
[04:03] <dmcglone> true, but think about this. If the
[04:03] <dmcglone> if the Govt. wanted this stuff to be a secret why didn't the sensor it themselves before giving it to the press?
[04:03] <BiosElement> Um what?
[04:04] <BiosElement> They actually said they would at one point
[04:04] <BiosElement> But then ignored wikileaks >.>
[04:04] <BiosElement> Wikileaks actually did try to work with the US gov to help them go through and censor the really risky bits
[04:04] <dmcglone> I'm talking about the papers that are given to the press in advance
[04:04] <BiosElement> But the same "We don't negotiate with terrorists" thing comes on.
[04:05] <BiosElement> The papers were given to them by wikileaks, and the papers also helped wikileaks censor them
[04:05] <dmcglone> Ah I must've got that detail wrong, I thought it was the Govt that gave them to the press
[04:06] <BiosElement> No, press had access before the public release
[04:06] <BiosElement> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/12/join-eff-in-standing-up-against-internet-censorship
[04:06] <dmcglone> right and thats why I got the impression it was from the Govt
[04:07] <BiosElement> Ahh
[04:10] <canthus13> bah. Can't read the CPU temp on this new motherboard. :(
[04:11] <dmcglone> canthus13:  just lick your finger and touch it
[04:11] <dmcglone> if you hear sizzling it's overheating
[04:12] <dmcglone> LOL
[04:13] <dmcglone> well it was a nice chat guys. I learned a great deal tonight. I think it's time for me to turn in
[04:13] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:13] <BiosElement> Night dmcglone heh
[04:13] <jacob> canthus13: sure you didn't miss the sensor cable?
[04:13] <jacob> night dmcglone
[04:13] <canthus13> jacob: Sensor cable?
[04:13] <dmcglone> I'll catch you guys later
[04:14] <dmcglone> g'night
[04:14] <jacob> canthus13: wait... never mind
[04:14] <jacob> that was to hook up to the fan for speed control (and fan sensors)
[04:15] <canthus13> heh. BIOS reads mobo and cpu temps fine... Debian doesn't show anything in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ though.
[04:15] <canthus13> it did show up on the last motherboard, though.
[04:16] <jacob> odd. maybe there's a kernel module that needs to be loaded?
[04:16] <canthus13> Same kernel. I swapped motherboards... that may have something to do with it.  I did have to track down the ethernet interface before I could get it online..
[04:17] <canthus13> I'm not too worried about temps, it's a file server for my home network... I'd just like to make sure I didn't screw up the proc installation.
[04:25] <canthus13> Cheri703: Herro.
[04:25] <Cheri703> holla
[04:25] <Cheri703> and yes, holla, not hola ;)
[04:25] <BiosElement> Hey Cheri703
[04:25] <BiosElement> You missed the political rants ;)
[04:25] <Cheri703> yo
[04:25] <Unit193> Be glad ;)
[04:25] <Cheri703> I was out and about
[04:26] <BiosElement> haha nah, they were good rants
[04:26] <Cheri703> I had my columbus trip and then stopped at someone's house to set up a wireless router
[04:26] <Cheri703> anything of note?
[04:26]  * canthus13 is still wary about that painless motherboard swap....
[04:27] <Cheri703> ?
[04:27] <canthus13> Cheri703: My motherboard arrived amazingly fast. Shipped last night at 8pm. showed up at my door today at 1:30.  The swap worked perfectly, just had to point to the correct ethernet port in /etc/network/interfaces.
[04:27]  * canthus13 is waiting for something to break now.
[04:27] <Cheri703> very nice
[04:27] <Cheri703> and yeah, I would be too
[04:27] <Cheri703> after all of the hassle with husband's computer
[04:27] <Cheri703> and that is one MAJOR reason I'm in love with ubuntu :)
[04:28] <canthus13> Cheri703: Heh. It's a really slick motherboard for the price, too.
[04:28] <canthus13> Cheri703: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200500256324
[04:29] <Cheri703> looks nice
[04:30] <canthus13> Yup. Crazy fast boot too.  3-4 seconds from power on to GRUB.
[04:31] <Cheri703> very sweet
[04:32] <Cheri703> I'm looking forward to the time (at some point in the very distant future, like when we have flying cars) that I can upgrade/replace my desktop
[04:32] <canthus13> Cheri703: this was just a cheap emergency fix for my media server.
[04:32] <Cheri703> that works :)
[04:32] <Cheri703> I could do with some new parts :/
[04:32] <Cheri703> the fan is making a noise
[04:33] <Cheri703> going to blow it out soon
[04:33] <canthus13> My fans all make noise. that's how I know my servers are working.
[04:33] <Cheri703> well, this is a new noise
[04:33] <canthus13> My wife's video card periodically makes strange noises...
[04:35] <Unit193PPC> I have a fan sitting on top of my router...
[04:39] <Cheri703> yeah?
[04:39] <Cheri703> and does Unit193PPC mean you got that one computer working?
[04:40] <Unit193PPC> PPC = pocket pc and no:(
[04:40] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[04:40] <Cheri703> :(
[04:40] <Unit193> Can't detect my HD
[04:43]  * canthus13 can't detect Unit193's HD either.
[04:44] <canthus13> Speaking of which.. My dad pulled a 500gb drive from his DVR... couldn't get windows to acknowledge it's presence.
[04:44] <Unit193> Maybe it can't find it because it's so small :)
[04:45] <canthus13> Turned out that There were 4 Linux raid partitions of varying sizes on the drive, plus 64mb of padding that cfdisk couldn't make anything of.  Weird.
[04:48] <Unit193PPC> Ubuntu doesn't do well on old/slow h/w...
[04:48] <canthus13> Unit193PPC: try debian.
[04:48] <canthus13> Unit193PPC: ...or Knoppix.
[04:48] <Unit193> Knoppix on old h/w?
[04:49]  * Unit193 is going to try Debian on the Mac
[04:49] <canthus13> Then again.. dunno if Knoppix works with PPC.
[04:49]  * Unit193 has two old 500mhz comps one with 512ram other with 128ram
[04:50] <canthus13> the 512 should be fine with Lubuntu.
[04:50] <Unit193> Then a 350 mac to top it off///
[04:50] <canthus13> the 128 might be.
[04:50] <Unit193> 512 does mostly ok.... as long as you don't open a web browser
[04:50] <canthus13> but debian in cli/framebuffer should work fine on the 128.
[04:51]  * canthus13 ran his webserver on a 500mhz P3 with 128mb of ram for a while.
[04:53] <Unit193> canthus13: I'm looking for a GUI for all the comps
[04:53] <canthus13> Unit193: Try DSL or Tinycore on them.
[04:54] <Unit193> I'm sticking with Lubuntu on the one and going to try Puppy on the other
[05:02] <Unit193> Was thinking of trying fubuntu on one of them...
[05:03] <canthus13> Go for it. :)
[05:09] <Unit193> fluxbox is just a blackbox clone... so it looks like bblean (put that on a comp so I didn't have to reinstall)
[06:14] <Unit193> You just gotta love XP....</sarcasm> grrrrrrr
[14:47] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[16:02] <paultag> morning!
[17:31] <canthus13> blargh.
[19:39] <BiosElement> Hmm, poor www.mastercard.com . It's a shame their site is crawling, I wonder why that might be. >.<
[19:45] <canthus13> Windows, maybe?
[19:45] <canthus13> Or DDOS?
[19:47] <BiosElement> Operation Payback is back in action specially in response to wikileaks
[19:47] <BiosElement> Funny thing is they're actually impacting MasterCard's ability to process transactions, even though MasterCard claims otherwise hheh
[19:48] <BiosElement> Not sure why they're madder at MasterCard though seeing as Visa is strongarming it's business partners not to help wikileaks either.
[19:50] <canthus13> Heh.
[19:51] <BiosElement> Oh, and the Swiss .ch register said there was quote "No reason why we should do 'anything' in regards to the wikileaks domain and services."
[19:51] <BiosElement> >.>
[19:51] <BiosElement> Oh yeah, and more info leaked out about the US's involvement in the Sweden Police's illegal raid of the Pirate Bay folks.
[19:52] <canthus13> Hmm.. that should help their appeals.. (Or have they run out yet?)
[19:52] <BiosElement> Basically, if Sweden didn't do something, they were going to be tossed on the trading blacklist and some crap >.<
[19:52] <BiosElement> Nah, they haven't even gotten close to out yet, there's like 2 more phases
[19:52] <BiosElement> Funny thing is one of the leaked cables has the Minister of Justice basically saying she doesn't give a damn if her gov. is corrupt
[19:54] <BiosElement> Now I gotta get the council to print me off a "Ubuntu-Oh LoCo News Guru" badge >.>
[20:07] <BiosElement> Og I see why they hit mastercard
[20:07] <BiosElement> Mastercard made the mistake of saying it was their decision alone to kill wikileaks donations >.<
[20:29] <_bbb_> http://i55.tinypic.com/2rfzcrq.jpg
[20:31] <BiosElement> lol
[23:15] <dmcglone> Hi everyone
[23:21] <dmcglone> brb