[04:42] <superfly> morning everyone
[06:52] <Kilos> morning superfly nuvolari corrie206 inetpro 
[06:52] <Kilos> have a good day guys
[06:52] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:53] <Kilos> morning maiatoday hows you
[06:53] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:55] <maiatoday> lekke thanks hi everybody pre-holiday post-exam chill or are peopled xmas-stressed?
[06:55] <Kilos> lol
[07:30] <nlsthzn> hi all
[07:30] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[07:31] <nlsthzn> Kilos: Uncle Kilo's, what's up?
[07:31] <Kilos> hehe
[07:31] <Kilos> the sun
[07:34] <drubin> how many people in here are writing exams?
[07:34] <drubin> wb maiatoday long time no see
[07:35] <maiatoday> hi drubin
[07:35] <maiatoday> I was here yesterday
[07:35] <maiatoday> not on the weekend though
[07:36] <nlsthzn> no exams for me anymore (which sucks, it means no growth too)
[10:26] <Cantide> '<
[10:27] <Kilos> ?
[10:33] <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos, maiatoday, superfly, nlsthzn, drubin, Cantide
[10:33] <Cantide> hello
[10:33] <Cantide> hi Kilos '<
[10:34] <superfly> afternoon nuvolari
[10:34] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[10:35] <nlsthzn> alo
[10:38] <Cantide> anyone have advice for playing DVDs in Ubuntu?
[10:39] <Cantide> can't get mine to work -.-
[10:39] <superfly> Cantide: go to medibuntu.org and add the repository
[10:39] <superfly> install libdvdcss2
[10:39] <superfly> and vlc
[10:39] <superfly> and you're good to go
[10:40] <Cantide> aha
[10:40] <Cantide> i got vlc a few minutes ago
[10:40] <Cantide> heard about medibuntu, but had trouble adding it through the terminal
[10:40] <Cantide> lemme try the website '<
[10:40] <superfly> cool, now you just need libdvdcss2
[10:42] <Cantide> thanks, i thought i had it when i used the terminal
[10:42] <superfly> Cantide: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:42] <Cantide> but i must have misunderstood what i was doing there lol
[10:42] <Cantide> superfly, still 9.04 T_T
[10:42] <Cantide> until i get a newer version i'm kinda stuck
[10:42] <superfly> that's karmic, hey?
[10:43] <superfly> http://packages.medibuntu.org/karmic/libdvdcss2.html
[10:43] <Cantide> Jaunty
[10:43] <Cantide> one before Karmic
[10:43] <superfly> ah
[10:44] <superfly> Cantide: why can't you upgrade?
[10:44] <nlsthzn> first thing I do after I install Ubuntu "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restrricted-extras" then everything just works :D
[10:44] <Cantide> superfly, lack of new version :p
[10:44] <confluency> Only one r.
[10:44] <Cantide> superfly, no bandwidth, and no disks == fail :D
[10:44] <superfly> Cantide: so where do you live?
[10:44] <Cantide> but my friend is downloading a newer ver for me
[10:45] <Cantide> superfly, the horrible area of Queensburgh
[10:45] <confluency> Surely Medibuntu still has Jaunty packages?
[10:45] <nlsthzn> confluency: sorry, thanks
[10:45] <superfly> Cantide: outside durban?
[10:46] <Cantide> superfly, western suburbs
[10:46] <Cantide> confluency, i replaced 'karmic' with 'jaunty' in that URL and i seem to have found it
[10:46] <Cantide> although i was given the option to 'reinstall'
[10:46] <Cantide> so that means i did already have it
[10:46] <Cantide> grrr
[10:46] <Cantide> maybe it's just this dvd... lemme try another '<
[10:46] <Cantide> brb
[10:47] <confluency> Cantide: I don't know what instructions you were following, but you should use these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[10:47] <Cantide> thanks, i'll have a look
[10:47] <confluency> Are you sure you have it?  Did you check?
[10:47] <confluency> And what is the problem withthe DVD?
[10:47] <Cantide> i also thought that maybe i need to use chmod to gain access to the drive... but i don't think so
[10:48] <confluency> No.  You don't. o_O
[10:48] <Cantide> >_>
[10:48] <Cantide> okay then... i hope i didn't mess anything up
[10:48] <Cantide> well, when i try to play it, a video window just opens and closes in a split second... nothing else happens
[10:48] <confluency> Do you have libdvdcss?
[10:49] <superfly> Cantide: nuvolari here lives in Ballito, and there are some other folks on the mailing list in Durban, so you should be able to hook up with someone and get a CD pretty easily
[10:49] <confluency> Cantide: dpkg -l | grep libdvdcss
[10:49] <Cantide> ii  libdvdcss2                                 1.2.10-0.2medibuntu1                      Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime
[10:49] <Cantide> seems i have it
[10:49] <Cantide> wait, i'll get another dvd, brb
[10:50] <Cantide> what if it's a region problem? how would i know?
[10:50] <confluency> OK.  Do you have lsdvd?
[10:50] <confluency> It's not a region problem.
[10:50] <confluency> Linux players tell DVDs where they can stick their regions.
[10:50] <Cantide> lol
[10:50] <confluency> If you don't have lsdvd, install it.
[10:50] <confluency> Then try: lsdvd
[10:51] <confluency> and see if you can read the DVD and what it says.
[10:51] <Cantide> installed it..
[10:51] <Cantide> how do i use it?
[10:51] <confluency> just lsdvd
[10:51] <Cantide> ok
[10:52] <confluency> If it works, you should see a list of chapters (or whatever they're called) and their sizes.
[10:52] <confluency> Do you have mplayer?
[10:52] <Cantide> Can't find device /dev/dvd
[10:52] <Cantide> weird, this DVD plays fine O_O
[10:52] <Cantide> let me try the other one again...
[10:52] <confluency> Is your dvd called something funny?
[10:52] <confluency> I mean dvd drive.
[10:55] <Cantide> aha!
[10:55] <Cantide> it works now :D
[10:55] <Cantide> sweet :D
[10:55] <Cantide> thanks everyone '<
[14:39] <afrodeity> any word about the DDOS attacks?
[14:58] <Kilos> hi afrodeity go ask on #freenode
[14:58] <Kilos> they right there
[14:59] <afrodeity> just wondering if anyone affected this side
[15:00] <Kilos> just lotsa peeps on and off i see
[15:00] <Kilos> afrodeity, have you got your bot working yet/
[15:00] <Kilos> ?
[15:12] <afrodeity> botnet
[15:14] <nlsthzn> ? something wrong on the interwebs?
[15:16] <nlsthzn> http://dot.kde.org/2010/12/08/canonical-donates-server-kde
[15:30] <afrodeity> just a distributed denial of service against mastercard in response to its DDOS against Wikileaks
[15:35] <nlsthzn> wow, when will people learn that you don't use the interwebs weapons against it and survive
[15:37] <nlsthzn> oh, mastercard didn't ddos wikileaks lol, I miss understood, now anon is at it again
[15:37] <nlsthzn> http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Hackers-Avenge-WikiLeaks-Leader-with-Operation-Payback-111520314.html
[16:32] <|3o|3> looks like fun, what are the laws with regard to ddos in ZA?
[16:37] <nlsthzn> The beauty of a DDOS is you can claim you didn't know you where part of it (botnet infection etc.)
[16:39] <|3o|3> true dat
[16:39] <|3o|3> also
[16:39] <|3o|3> you're just dossing
[16:39] <|3o|3> its the OTHER people that are ddossing:P
[16:44] <Kerbero> lol
[16:44] <Kerbero> you're just visiting a website
[16:45] <Kerbero> no dossing
[16:45] <Kerbero> but mark my words:
[16:45] <Kerbero> hier kom moeilikheid met hierdie hele wikileaks besigheid
[16:45] <nlsthzn> Kerbero: True that
[16:45] <nlsthzn> |3o|3: semantics
[16:52] <nlsthzn> Sometimes what people want isn't the best for them... freedom of speech, freedom of information...
[17:44] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[17:45] <nlsthzn> wow, Kilo's crashing early tonight
[18:12] <superfly> he's usually up till much later
[19:18] <nlsthzn> jono casting again, showing folks how to make a live usb :)
[20:14] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell Cantide You can join us this coming Sunday (12th) ref. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2010-December/006990.html
[20:14] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sure, I'll tell Cantide on freenode
[20:14] <nuvolari> we'll be at the Musgrave spur (Mustang Spur)
[20:14] <nuvolari> er
[20:14] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell Cantide We'll be at the Mustang Spur in the Musgrave centre
[20:14] <Maaz> nuvolari: Righto, I'll tell Cantide on freenode
[20:35] <kodez> how do i configure apt-get to look at a folder in my pc for packages that i had downloaded?
[20:45] <Kerbero> i think you must dump the packages somewhere in /var/apt/cache
[20:46] <Kerbero> but why don't you just install them directly
[20:49] <drubin> or you can use the synax in sources.list and use the file:// prefix
[20:56] <inetpro> or you can use aptoncd to transfer easily from system to system
[22:46] <Kerbero> E: Failed to fetch ftp://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wireshark/wireshark_1.2.11-4build0.10.10.1_i386.deb: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wireshark/wireshark_1.2.11-4build0.10.10.1_i386.deb: No such file or directory  '
[22:47] <Kerbero> why are all the south african ubuntu mirrors doing this
[22:47] <Kerbero> different packages at different times
[22:47] <Kerbero> but both ftp.sun and za.mirror give this error sometimes
[23:03] <tumbleweed> Kerbero: some mirrors don't follow the correct two-stage sync process (and even that leaves some inconsistancies for a short while)
[23:03] <Kerbero> define "short"
[23:04] <tumbleweed> there isn't an absolute time
[23:04] <tumbleweed> the two stage sync does debs first, then everything. If a bunch more debs have appeared between starting stage 1 and starting stage 2, stage 2 will take a while
[23:05] <tumbleweed> the longer stage 2 takes, the bigger the chance that the lists will be out of sync with the debs
[23:05] <tumbleweed> if that happens, it'll stay that way until the next sync (probably 6 hours)
[23:06] <tumbleweed> we do a 3-stage sync on ftp.leg, because we aren't guaranteed enough bandwidth for fast syncing
[23:10] <Kerbero> ok
[23:10] <Kerbero> complicated
[23:10] <Kerbero> but i would have thought that a main miroor like za.mirror should be on fast enough internet for something like that not to happen very easily
[23:11] <tumbleweed> races happen, no matter how fast :)
[23:11] <Kerbero> hehe
[23:11] <Kerbero> true