/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/08/#xubuntu.txt

danaehey15:32
danaeis pidgin or empathy better for video/audio on the googletalk protocol?15:32
TheSheepI think they both use libpurple under the hood15:33
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robertfHello16:07
robertfi've a problem to try xubuntu 11.04 (desktop). I downloaded the iso image. I can choose the language, the keyboard layout. After, there is a message "there was a problem reading data from cd-rom. Please make sure it is in the drive.16:08
robertfcharlie-tca: no, i only copy these files initrd.gz, vmlinuz, from natty repository to usb drive and the natty-desktop-i386.iso16:08
robertf i only copy these files initrd.gz, vmlinuz, from natty repository to usb drive and the natty-desktop-i386.iso16:08
robertfi also created the syslinux.cfg and added default vmlinuz and append initrd=initrd.gz16:08
Sysithis is support channel for stable versions16:09
Sysi"alpha is not made to work"16:09
charlie-tcaWait...16:09
robertfSysi: Where to ask the question? i asked to #xubuntu-devel16:09
charlie-tcarobertf: is that today's image?16:09
robertfcharlie-tca: yes it is16:09
charlie-tcaPython 2.7 is being uploaded, and so is xfce4.7 with a lot of changes. They broke the images today16:10
charlie-tcaIt won't work for a few days16:10
robertfcharlie daily-live (2010120616:10
charlie-tcaSorry, Sysi. I sent robertf to the wrong place16:11
Sysinot problem for me actually16:11
charlie-tcaPretty sure we broke that one too16:11
charlie-tcarobertf: can you try again when we get a good image back?16:11
Sysiso i'm not gonna install natty yet :P16:11
robertfis the method used good?16:12
charlie-tcaI should tell you, Natty support is in #ubuntu+1, too16:12
charlie-tcaI think so16:12
robertfthe md5sum is correct16:12
robertfi checked it16:12
charlie-tcaSysi: I knew that, but I hate shuffling the people when I screw up16:12
charlie-tcarobertf: that doesn't mean it will work yet16:12
charlie-tcaJust that all the files it thinks it needs are there16:13
robertfcharlie-tca: md5sum from natty-desktop-i386.iso from usb drive16:14
robertf28f0ae55e78250fd526522aacce5b33c  natty-desktop-i386.iso16:14
robertfit's the same as the MD5sum16:15
charlie-tcaThat means your download and the server file match, but that doesn't mean it can't be broken because the right files aren't there.16:15
robertfok16:15
charlie-tcaThe installation won't boot if you get it to install, because it is broken16:15
robertfcharlie-tca: ok16:16
charlie-tcasorry16:16
robertfi will try without install16:16
charlie-tcaOkay16:16
robertfwhen i boot, i can't choose to try without install16:17
robertfdirectly, it's the install menu to choose the language16:17
robertfis it better to try it later when the beta1 will be available?16:17
charlie-tcaYes, It would be better to wait at least until the daily image is updated to the current date.16:19
charlie-tcawith all the changes happening right now, it is broken.16:19
robertfok, thank for you help16:20
charlie-tcaYou are welcome16:21
balsaqgood morning16:31
charlie-tcaGood morning16:35
agentgasmaskHi guys. I have a server that is at 8.04. How can I upgrade this?16:37
Sysisudo do-release-upgrade16:38
Sysimake up-to-date backups16:38
charlie-tcaYou can upgrade 8.04 directly to 10.0416:39
agentgasmaskYeah, can you?16:39
charlie-tcahttp://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade16:40
agentgasmaskthat works for xubuntu too?16:41
charlie-tcayes. this might be better - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades16:42
charlie-tcaXubuntu uses the same upgrade procedures as Ubuntu16:42
agentgasmaskok, cool16:42
agentgasmaskI have a mdadm raid 5 array, are there any percautions I should take?16:43
charlie-tcayup16:43
charlie-tcabackup16:43
charlie-tcaread all the release notes, read all the stuff about upgrading safely16:44
agentgasmaskfrom the link you gave me?16:44
charlie-tcaboth of those links and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes16:45
agentgasmaskok, thanks16:45
agentgasmaskwhen you say backup, is it more important to backup the system settings or the actual data on the array?16:46
Sysiwhat do you want to save16:46
agentgasmaskWell, I mean, what is at risk of being corupted?16:47
agentgasmaskor rather, can the array be mounted on a fresh install if the system goes down?16:48
charlie-tcaIf the upgrade destroys the array, what do you need to make sure got saved?16:49
agentgasmaskAh, I see... So backup it all. :) I guess that is always the answer.16:49
pteague_workis there a way to get specific windows to load in a certain position every time? i.e. i like having kdesvn in the upper right corner18:53
TheSheeppteague_work: check out the devilspie18:56
charlie-tcapteague_work: yes, using devilspie, it can be done18:56
* charlie-tca too slow18:56
TheSheepI never know if it's devil's pie or devil spie18:57
charlie-tcaI don't know18:57
TheSheepI suppose there is no such word as spie18:57
charlie-tcabut it works!18:57
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pteague_workTheSheep & charlie-tca, awesome, thank you... now to configure stuff :)19:18
pteague_workhmm... i'm not overly familiar with s-expressions... how do you create comments?19:25
charlie-tcasemi-colon ; in front of the statement makes it a comment19:27
alex88hi guys.. what are the min specs for xubuntu?19:31
alex88i'm used with ubuntu but my father has a old athlon 1800 laptop19:31
alex88oh found them :)19:32
pteague_worki think the worst box i've run xfce on is a 100mhz or 133mhz with 256mb of ram, but that was a while ago20:20
charlie-tcaI could see that as s-l-o-w20:24
charlie-tcaMy 400MHz PII with 128MB ram is a bit rough, too20:24
Sysi900MHz 512MB netbook runs like a charm20:26
charlie-tcaI would think so. Even the 400MHz with 512 works nicely20:27
pteague_workyeah, well it was the '90s & my previous desktop at the time...20:45
pteague_workhmm... i'm getting the error message "contains expects two string arguments" from http://pastebin.com/sqgCGaiD & not sure what the issue is... i used gdevilspie to initially generate the 'contains' & then modified it based on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie to do the 2nd part20:47
charlie-tcawhy is line 6 not the same as 12?20:50
charlie-tcaOr perhaps, I should say, I think you have to have two separate files for this20:53
charlie-tcaotherwise, you need the (if    (and    or   (if    (or    on two lines for it to use both statements20:58
charlie-tcadevilspie is kind of a mean thing to learn syntax for20:59
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pteague_workcharlie-tca, hmm... ok, was kind of basing it off of the pidgin.ds example on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie21:36
charlie-tcaheh, the fun of it all :-)21:37
charlie-tcaTook me about 3 months to learn what did work21:37
pteague_work& 6 & 12 are different so i know which 1 it actually matched... the ' - kdesvn' is if it already has a svn path opened it will have something like 'file:///home/.../trunk - kdesvn' ... as opposed to just 'kdesvn' if it's opened without a path/bookmark21:39
AlphaOnehello21:41
AlphaOneI'm trying to install the "Broadcom B43Legacy wireless driver" on my new install of Xubuntu and its saying "Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details:  /var/log/jockey.log"21:42
charlie-tcaAnd did you look in /var/log/jockey.log ?21:43
pteague_workcharlie-tca, well dang... i completely commented out the 2nd if & it's still giving me the "contains expects two string arguments" error :(21:44
charlie-tcawierd21:46
pteague_workhmm...  man page shows "(contains haystack needle)"... & considering i know i have the 1 string quoted so that's existing... would that mean that "( window_xid )" is not a valid variable?21:47
charlie-tcapossible21:53
charlie-tcaI can't find it either21:53
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pteague_worki ended up just using gdevilspie to generate the file & gave up on having 2 of them in the same file... ended up with http://pastebin.com/abRkvZyx22:14
apostropheHello. I just installed Xubuntu and it can't seem to find my wireless network? But it does find other networks.22:14
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pteague_workother wireless networks?22:15
Guest83523other wireless networks, yes22:15
charlie-tcapteague: and it works?22:15
charlie-tcaCan't you have two rules in two files?22:15
pteague_worktry the "connect to hidden wireless" option22:15
pteague_workcharlie-tca, yeah, i have 2 different files... the other just checks for "kdesvn" & doesn't bother with the not matches part22:16
Guest83523ptleague: I did, but then I don't know what kind of 'passkey' to use? I know that I use WEP, and I tried both WEP options (128-bit passphrase +128-bit key) and it doesn't connect.22:16
Guest83523any other suggestions22:18
pteague_worknot sure, i've not had that issue before22:21
Guest83523aw man22:22
Guest83523sucks22:22
Guest83523any way to change the title bar color? it's using the standard light blue right now.22:24
knomeGuest83523, change the xfwm theme22:25
Guest83523found it and thank you.22:29
Guest83523oh man, i really don't know what to do22:33
Guest83523i'm trying to google for answers with  no resolution so far22:33
Thermign822:34
Guest83523It says a connection is established with my wireless network, but I can't browse the internet.22:42
Guest83523Ah, it's frustrating. I'm disappointed cause it looks like I'll have to jump back on windows22:43
knomeGuest83523, do you have a router - could you check if your connection shows up there?22:44
AlphaOnehow do I get my wireless card working in Xubuntu 10.1023:18
AlphaOneI think its a Broadcom B4323:18
charlie-tca!wireless23:20
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:20
AlphaOnehow do I tell what card I have?23:23
charlie-tcalspci23:23
AlphaOneit says I have Broadcom BCM430623:24
charlie-tcaAlphaOne: now you know for sure. Have you read the release notes to see if the broadcom is mentioned?23:27
AlphaOnewhat do you mean?23:27
AlphaOneI'm REALLY new to this23:27
charlie-tcaOkay. Read this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes#Networking%20&%20WiFi23:28
AlphaOneI dont see anything in there about mine23:29
AlphaOnewhat should i do?23:31
charlie-tcaI guess read and do what this says - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:33

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