[15:32] hey [15:32] is pidgin or empathy better for video/audio on the googletalk protocol? [15:33] I think they both use libpurple under the hood === danae is now known as Goliath === rgnr is now known as [AT]Painkiller [16:07] Hello [16:08] i've a problem to try xubuntu 11.04 (desktop). I downloaded the iso image. I can choose the language, the keyboard layout. After, there is a message "there was a problem reading data from cd-rom. Please make sure it is in the drive. [16:08] charlie-tca: no, i only copy these files initrd.gz, vmlinuz, from natty repository to usb drive and the natty-desktop-i386.iso [16:08] i only copy these files initrd.gz, vmlinuz, from natty repository to usb drive and the natty-desktop-i386.iso [16:08] i also created the syslinux.cfg and added default vmlinuz and append initrd=initrd.gz [16:09] this is support channel for stable versions [16:09] "alpha is not made to work" [16:09] Wait... [16:09] Sysi: Where to ask the question? i asked to #xubuntu-devel [16:09] robertf: is that today's image? [16:09] charlie-tca: yes it is [16:10] Python 2.7 is being uploaded, and so is xfce4.7 with a lot of changes. They broke the images today [16:10] It won't work for a few days [16:10] charlie daily-live (20101206 [16:11] Sorry, Sysi. I sent robertf to the wrong place [16:11] not problem for me actually [16:11] Pretty sure we broke that one too [16:11] robertf: can you try again when we get a good image back? [16:11] so i'm not gonna install natty yet :P [16:12] is the method used good? [16:12] I should tell you, Natty support is in #ubuntu+1, too [16:12] I think so [16:12] the md5sum is correct [16:12] i checked it [16:12] Sysi: I knew that, but I hate shuffling the people when I screw up [16:12] robertf: that doesn't mean it will work yet [16:13] Just that all the files it thinks it needs are there [16:14] charlie-tca: md5sum from natty-desktop-i386.iso from usb drive [16:14] 28f0ae55e78250fd526522aacce5b33c natty-desktop-i386.iso [16:15] it's the same as the MD5sum [16:15] That means your download and the server file match, but that doesn't mean it can't be broken because the right files aren't there. [16:15] ok [16:15] The installation won't boot if you get it to install, because it is broken [16:16] charlie-tca: ok [16:16] sorry [16:16] i will try without install [16:16] Okay [16:17] when i boot, i can't choose to try without install [16:17] directly, it's the install menu to choose the language [16:17] is it better to try it later when the beta1 will be available? [16:19] Yes, It would be better to wait at least until the daily image is updated to the current date. [16:19] with all the changes happening right now, it is broken. [16:20] ok, thank for you help [16:21] You are welcome [16:31] good morning [16:35] Good morning [16:37] Hi guys. I have a server that is at 8.04. How can I upgrade this? [16:38] sudo do-release-upgrade [16:38] make up-to-date backups [16:39] You can upgrade 8.04 directly to 10.04 [16:39] Yeah, can you? [16:40] http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [16:41] that works for xubuntu too? [16:42] yes. this might be better - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades [16:42] Xubuntu uses the same upgrade procedures as Ubuntu [16:42] ok, cool [16:43] I have a mdadm raid 5 array, are there any percautions I should take? [16:43] yup [16:43] backup [16:44] read all the release notes, read all the stuff about upgrading safely [16:44] from the link you gave me? [16:45] both of those links and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes [16:45] ok, thanks [16:46] when you say backup, is it more important to backup the system settings or the actual data on the array? [16:46] what do you want to save [16:47] Well, I mean, what is at risk of being corupted? [16:48] or rather, can the array be mounted on a fresh install if the system goes down? [16:49] If the upgrade destroys the array, what do you need to make sure got saved? [16:49] Ah, I see... So backup it all. :) I guess that is always the answer. [18:53] is there a way to get specific windows to load in a certain position every time? i.e. i like having kdesvn in the upper right corner [18:56] pteague_work: check out the devilspie [18:56] pteague_work: yes, using devilspie, it can be done [18:56] * charlie-tca too slow [18:57] I never know if it's devil's pie or devil spie [18:57] I don't know [18:57] I suppose there is no such word as spie [18:57] but it works! === toga-blue is now known as toga [19:18] TheSheep & charlie-tca, awesome, thank you... now to configure stuff :) [19:25] hmm... i'm not overly familiar with s-expressions... how do you create comments? [19:27] semi-colon ; in front of the statement makes it a comment [19:31] hi guys.. what are the min specs for xubuntu? [19:31] i'm used with ubuntu but my father has a old athlon 1800 laptop [19:32] oh found them :) [20:20] i think the worst box i've run xfce on is a 100mhz or 133mhz with 256mb of ram, but that was a while ago [20:24] I could see that as s-l-o-w [20:24] My 400MHz PII with 128MB ram is a bit rough, too [20:26] 900MHz 512MB netbook runs like a charm [20:27] I would think so. Even the 400MHz with 512 works nicely [20:45] yeah, well it was the '90s & my previous desktop at the time... [20:47] hmm... i'm getting the error message "contains expects two string arguments" from http://pastebin.com/sqgCGaiD & not sure what the issue is... i used gdevilspie to initially generate the 'contains' & then modified it based on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie to do the 2nd part [20:50] why is line 6 not the same as 12? [20:53] Or perhaps, I should say, I think you have to have two separate files for this [20:58] otherwise, you need the (if (and or (if (or on two lines for it to use both statements [20:59] devilspie is kind of a mean thing to learn syntax for === Thermi_ is now known as Thermi [21:36] charlie-tca, hmm... ok, was kind of basing it off of the pidgin.ds example on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie [21:37] heh, the fun of it all :-) [21:37] Took me about 3 months to learn what did work [21:39] & 6 & 12 are different so i know which 1 it actually matched... the ' - kdesvn' is if it already has a svn path opened it will have something like 'file:///home/.../trunk - kdesvn' ... as opposed to just 'kdesvn' if it's opened without a path/bookmark [21:41] hello [21:42] I'm trying to install the "Broadcom B43Legacy wireless driver" on my new install of Xubuntu and its saying "Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log" [21:43] And did you look in /var/log/jockey.log ? [21:44] charlie-tca, well dang... i completely commented out the 2nd if & it's still giving me the "contains expects two string arguments" error :( [21:46] wierd [21:47] hmm... man page shows "(contains haystack needle)"... & considering i know i have the 1 string quoted so that's existing... would that mean that "( window_xid )" is not a valid variable? [21:53] possible [21:53] I can't find it either === SuperHar1 is now known as MichealH === MichealH is now known as Guest17035 === Guest17035 is now known as MichealH [22:14] i ended up just using gdevilspie to generate the file & gave up on having 2 of them in the same file... ended up with http://pastebin.com/abRkvZyx [22:14] Hello. I just installed Xubuntu and it can't seem to find my wireless network? But it does find other networks. === apostrophe is now known as Guest83523 [22:15] other wireless networks? [22:15] other wireless networks, yes [22:15] pteague: and it works? [22:15] Can't you have two rules in two files? [22:15] try the "connect to hidden wireless" option [22:16] charlie-tca, yeah, i have 2 different files... the other just checks for "kdesvn" & doesn't bother with the not matches part [22:16] ptleague: I did, but then I don't know what kind of 'passkey' to use? I know that I use WEP, and I tried both WEP options (128-bit passphrase +128-bit key) and it doesn't connect. [22:18] any other suggestions [22:21] not sure, i've not had that issue before [22:22] aw man [22:22] sucks [22:24] any way to change the title bar color? it's using the standard light blue right now. [22:25] Guest83523, change the xfwm theme [22:29] found it and thank you. [22:33] oh man, i really don't know what to do [22:33] i'm trying to google for answers with no resolution so far [22:34] gn8 [22:42] It says a connection is established with my wireless network, but I can't browse the internet. [22:43] Ah, it's frustrating. I'm disappointed cause it looks like I'll have to jump back on windows [22:44] Guest83523, do you have a router - could you check if your connection shows up there? [23:18] how do I get my wireless card working in Xubuntu 10.10 [23:18] I think its a Broadcom B43 [23:20] !wireless [23:20] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [23:23] how do I tell what card I have? [23:23] lspci [23:24] it says I have Broadcom BCM4306 [23:27] AlphaOne: now you know for sure. Have you read the release notes to see if the broadcom is mentioned? [23:27] what do you mean? [23:27] I'm REALLY new to this [23:28] Okay. Read this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes#Networking%20&%20WiFi [23:29] I dont see anything in there about mine [23:31] what should i do? [23:33] I guess read and do what this says - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs