[00:18] * apachelogger is now reachable at sitter@kde.org \\o/ [00:19] you are now elite [00:20] not elite enough to get opengles [00:20] seems the meego kernel is not patchy enough to build our powervr dkms stuff [00:20] which is pretty much a dead end now [00:21] * apachelogger is out of ideas on how to gles kubuntu mobile on the n900 at this point [00:22] although [00:22] * apachelogger gets daring and considers compiling a new meego kernel [00:25] also neon is failing [00:31] wth, launchpad gives: [00:31] kdebase-workspace - 4:4.5.2-0ubuntu1~ppa1 (changes file) jr 2010-10-05 Superseded Maverick Kde [00:31] why the hell didn't that get deleted o.O [00:34] deleted it by hand, let's see if that helps [00:41] [muon] jmthomas * 1204778 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (9 files in 3 dirs) FEATURE: Initial support for addons management. [00:43] [muon] jmthomas * 1204780 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationDetailsView/ApplicationDetailsWidget.cpp Split some of this string out in to the tooltip [00:44] http://i.imgur.com/tlNdx.png [00:44] pretty much working, although it does have a few kinks [00:44] like the progress bar text says "Removing" when you are installing addons for a previously-installed app [00:50] how does it find addons? [00:57] Riddell: it seems manually deleting kdebase-workspace 4:4.5.2 on launchpad resolved that apt confusion [00:58] mm hmm, do we want that deleted? [01:00] we use 4.5.4 now? all that was left in the pool was 4.5.2 sources and the libweather-ion4a .debs, everything else was superseded [01:01] hmm, would have expected that to be removed when the new version got in [01:02] right, launchpad silliness it seems [01:02] as I posted above, launchpad just marked it as superseded, but didn't completely remove it [01:03] 4.5.85 being copied to beta [01:04] kdepim and kdepim-runtime to experimental [01:04] * yofel wonders where aashkay went [01:07] since I doubt any code has changed in kdetoys since beta 1 I'm not too fussed about waiting to see if he manages to get it finished [01:09] true [01:18] ok [01:18] this does not make sense [01:18] at all [01:18] [muon] jmthomas * 1204784 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp When language-selector is installed, don't pollute the addons list with large amounts of langpacks since language-selector presumably takes care of things. [01:18] powervr stuff fails to build with meego kernel because omap_rev_lt_3_0 is not defined [01:18] grepping our linux does not bring up any definition either === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly cookies all around | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Let's package beta 2! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [01:27] good night [01:27] nini yofel [01:32] I think my dpkg is broken [01:32] [muon] jmthomas * 1204786 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp Application.h) s/QList/QStringList (and include QStringList in Application.h so that things using it don't bomb) [01:32] stuck at unpacking amarok for a couple of minutes already [01:36] [muon] jmthomas * 1204787 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp Application.h) Const correctness [01:36] kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6-beta-2 [01:39] Riddell: and JontheEchidna: I'm working on switching opengtl to use pkgkde-symbolshelper. I think we can get away from per arch symbols files. [01:39] (this will also be the solution on kdegraphics and other C++ libs) [02:34] * apachelogger got opengles on kubuntu-mobile with meego kernel [02:34] for some reason Qt fails with it though [02:35] doesnt manage to compile anything [04:21] It's not like I've got it all worked out yet for KDE. [04:56] how to add directories from base environment to chroot environment? [05:02] bind them [05:03] dasKreech: bind with? please explain little [05:04] http://fermilinux.fnal.gov/documentation/tips/mount-bind-chroot [05:04] mount -o bind [05:06] dasKreech: let me read the document and try this. thanks [05:07] dasKreech: can you please tel me from where can i download teh code for kdetoys4.5.85 [05:07] dasKreech: *the [05:08] most likely the KDE svn [05:08] http:\\websvn.kde.org [05:08] or apt-get source :) [05:10] daskreech: not getting this package by apt-get [05:10] dasKreech: let me look at the websvn den [05:10] dasKreech: thanks [05:11] I guess you know how to use subversion? [05:11] dasKreech: I think he wants the tarball. [05:11] * ScottK is off to bed. [05:12] ah [05:12] ok [05:12] check in the tags or release directory then [05:12] ScottK: hi. yes i need the tarball. the tarball you mailed me is not accessible in chroot environment. so i need to download in chroot [05:13] aakshay: can't you copy it into the chroot? [05:14] dasKreech: nopes..looking for such command as you just told mount o- bind.. [05:15] mount -o [05:15] dasKreech: will try this now [05:17] dasKreech: yes :) [05:17] works? [05:17] dasKreech: reading the document now [05:24] dasKreech: it's more dealing with file system instead of directories. and being novice to ubuntu i am not able to understand exactly :( [05:25] aakshay: you are trying to get a single directory to exist under the chroot? [05:25] have you tried a hard link? [05:25] dasKreech: no i have not tried.. [05:26] dasKreech: i have to take the tarball from downloads and copy it to chroot for packaging [05:26] aakshay: So just copy it into the chroot [05:27] dasKreech: so for this, first i am not able to locate where the /home or any directories for chroot saved [05:28] dasKreech: i made this chroot using the pbuilder [05:28] dasKreech: so now how can i simply copy if i sont know the paths :( [05:28] right but it has a physical directory that exists on the filesystem right? [05:28] ah [05:28] *dont [05:29] dasKreech: it must have, but how can i locate it.. i tried the LOCATE command but it din't shown [05:30] touch some strange unique file then run sudo updatedb && locate [05:31] dasKreech: yups.. let me try === mueslix is now known as muesli [05:34] dasKreech: yiipi!! worked... let me try to copy now.. thanks....:) [05:39] dasKreech: done!!... thanks.. [05:48] aakshay: 0k :) [05:49] aakshay: Where was the directory? [05:49] dasKreech: it was in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/2960/ [05:49] Ah Ok [05:50] dasKreech: :) [05:56] :-) [05:59] dasKreech: can you please tell me the significance of secret ninja repositories? [06:01] dasKreech: when i packaged first, riddell added his secret repositories. can you tel me what kinda repositories are these and whats their use? [06:02] To test things on i would suppose [06:03] ensure they work across multiple installs [06:04] but not be publicly available [06:05] dasKreech: so how can i add them now? === birthday-vorian is now known as vorian [08:04] in natty, to build kdetoys, kde-sc-dev-latest and kdebase-workspace-dev together but if one is installed other needs to be removed.. so what can i do for this? [08:11] in natty, to build kdetoys, kde-sc-dev-latest and kdebase-workspace-dev together but if one is installed other needs to be removed.. so what can i do for this? [08:11] Is anyone else having problems launching programs from the panel unless widgets are locked in KDE 4.6? [08:35] * apachelogger is not launching programs form the panel [08:36] aakshay: most supposedly you will need a newer kde-sc-dev-latest (or a newer kdebase-workspace-dev) [08:36] the former is there to ensure that the latter is at appropriate version, so if they clash I would suppose it is because latter is not yet updated [08:36] also see the ninja dependency graph [08:37] apachelogger: let me check which version i have installed. [08:38] apachelogger: i have installe dteh latest version only for kde-sc -dev latest [08:39] aakshay: what are you trying to do? [08:39] apachelogger: and it asked "y/n" choice before installing [08:40] apachelogger: i am trying to build the kdetoys-4.5.85 [08:40] ohohooh [08:40] you have access to the ninjas ppa? [08:40] apachelogger: yes, but not sure [08:40] apachelogger: i am novice to this development [08:41] well, ninjaing is a bit of a tricky thing when one only started with packaging :) [08:41] aakshay: you are in a pbuilder chroot? [08:42] apachelogger: yes [08:42] ok [08:42] apachelogger: i have access to ninja ppa as well.. i have just checked [08:42] apachelogger: :) [08:42] aakshay: make sure the ninjas ppa is in your /etc/apt/sources.list [08:43] (I would suggest grep -ri ninjas /etc/apt/) [08:43] apachelogger: its not added in /etc/apt/sources.list [08:43] that would probably be your problem then [08:44] aakshay: at your launchpad home https://launchpad.net/~akshaytayal you should somehwere find a link that goes like 'view your private ppa stuffs and things' [08:44] apachelogger: yes .. its there [08:44] there you should be able to get a sources.list entry for the ninjas ppa [08:45] okiez [08:45] then copy that to /etc/apt/sources.list in your chroot [08:45] and install apt-transport-https [08:45] apachelogger: i found [08:45] then run apt-get update to update the package cache [08:45] apachelogger: ok.. let me do this [08:46] now kdebase-workspace should be isntallable in appropriate version [08:46] apachelogger: ok... :)... [08:46] yofel_, Riddell: ^ how do you handle the ppa entries? [08:46] interested in a pbuilder hook maybe? ;) [08:47] apachelogger: is it for me? [08:47] aakshay: what? a hook? [08:47] apachelogger: yes... is it for me "interested in a pbuilder hook maybe?" [08:47] well, yes, also yofel_ and Riddell ;) [08:48] apachelogger: what is that then? i hardly have any idea about it [08:49] yeah, primarily I directed that question to the other twos ;) [08:49] aakshay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment [08:49] see the pbuilder-hooks secition [08:49] apachelogger: ok. let me see [08:50] pbuilder hooks are scripts that can be hooked into the pbuilder setup/shutdown process to do all sorts of things (in our case: make things easier) [08:52] apachelogger: yes.. it adds functionalities to packaging tools.. [08:52] apachelogger: i will use this... [08:53] apachelogger: i am working on language diffrerentiator 85 patch as well.. but it been written for 4.4. something [08:54] apachelogger: so i think i need to start from the very begining? [08:54] yes [08:54] shadeslayer knows the details IIRC === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [08:54] also the problem is not so much that the patch was created for 4.4, but that it was badly written from a maintenance POV [08:54] is there an easy way to use the beta packages as shown on the ninja packaging page? [08:55] zegenie_: pardon? [08:55] apachelogger: ok.. i have read the HIG designing guide..i am working with shadeslayer on the patch.. [08:55] sorry, I was probably being too unspecific [08:56] the ninja packaging page for kde 4.6b2 lists that most packages are available for maverick in the ninja/bzr repo, correct? [08:56] apachelogger: let me edit my sources.list now.... [08:56] zegenie_: yes? [08:56] so, I was trying to find a way to test these packages, but couldn't find it [08:56] you cannot [08:56] aww [08:56] sad face. [08:56] since the stack is not assambled [08:57] once it is the packages get moved to natty [08:57] and maverick ... ? [08:57] and work on maverick packages starts [08:57] zegenie_: that page is about natty [08:57] it lists maverick, too [08:57] ah [08:57] true [08:57] well, that will also get moved once the stack is completely [08:57] -ly [08:57] cool [08:58] so will beta 2 be published in the kubuntu/beta repo eventually? [08:58] yes [08:58] cause beta 1 wasn't .. [08:58] good, then I have nothing else to add [08:58] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6-beta-2 [08:59] Riddell: how does it work that it is published but misses the kdetoys package? [09:03] apachelogger: I can't find those packages anywhere in the repo after doing an apt-get update [09:04] only packages I see available are kdepim packages from the experimental repo [09:04] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta [09:04] they are there [09:05] apachelogger: nvm, pebkac [09:06] apachelogger: thanks... it worked and i have both installed now... :) [09:09] great === hunger_ is now known as hunger [10:16] Riddell: apachelogger: somehow the KDE 4.6 upgrade broke the SSH passphrase tool that I use for authentication at startup [10:16] that tool was really awesome [10:16] (you type in your passphrase after booting) [10:16] now, it no longer comes up [10:24] if i try to submit a bug and it wants to install debug packages, it just hangs waiting for authorisation, which i presume means it is waiting for a password to allow it to install? [10:24] I think it's searching [10:25] oi [10:25] and dbg packages install without permissions needed, I think [10:25] apachelogger: Riddell: in other news, VLC is now broken [10:25] try to open a file... [10:25] hangs [10:25] not good [10:25] lovely [10:25] valorie: i've got a window titled qapt batch installer with a bar just going from left to right [10:26] apachelogger: it's likely an issue with the file selector dialog [10:26] right, sometimes it searches for quite awhile [10:26] markey: Mamarok knows how to fix the ssh thing [10:26] Riddell: ah, thanks [10:26] apachelogger: wait, now it workeed [10:26] took 1 minute [10:26] Oo [10:26] valorie: it has been doing it for over 5 minutes [10:26] ugh [10:26] in which case, it won't find anything anyway [10:27] in my experience [10:27] wow [10:27] it found the packages it wanted to install, but then stopped with this window waiting for authorisation [10:27] my Core i7 is too slow for decoding a HD Bluray film [10:27] (ripped) [10:27] it stutters [10:27] weird [10:27] markey: what gpu have you got? [10:27] mfraz74: ThinkPad X201, Core i7, VLC [10:28] Intel graphics [10:28] could it be a problem with intel graphics? [10:28] maybe [10:28] normally it works fine [10:28] CPU load is not that high either [10:28] quality is insanely good, though, on my IPS TFT display :) [10:28] and with the new speakers [10:29] beats cinema :D [10:29] (watchig Avatar) [10:29] markey: is that with beta2? [10:29] beta1 had kfiledialog/dolphin problems [10:29] apachelogger: no, I've just upgraded, need to reboot [10:30] apachelogger: ah, the main problem was compositing [10:30] got a little better now, without that [10:41] * apachelogger starts crying === droidslayer is now known as Guest69378 === Guest69378 is now known as droidslayer_ [10:45] * jussi huggles apachelogger [10:46] * valorie hands over the kleenex box [11:00] Riddell: hi.. i am done with packaging of kdetoys-4.5.85.. now can you please sign it and tel me what to do next? [11:02] aakshay: great, I just need a debdiff from the current version [11:02] download the current version [11:02] debdiff .dsc .dsc [11:03] Riddell: ok. let me download [11:14] Riddell: its showing error to read old.dsc "debdiff: fatal error at line 314: Can't read file: kdetoys-4.5.80.dsc" [11:18] this opengles stuff is super depressing [11:20] apachelogger: ^^ [11:20] aakshay: well, that filename sounds invalid [11:21] it is more likely something like kdetoys_4.5.80-0ubuntu1324532foobarllalala.dsc [11:21] tab-autocomplete will know ;) [11:22] apachelogger: yes.. you are very right.. its rong.. :(.... [11:32] Riddell: its too long file. how can i show you? [11:33] apachelogger: the file is too long.. how can i show this to Riddell?? [11:34] aakshay: too bit to put into a pastebin website? paste.ubuntu.com [11:35] Riddell: URl is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/541409/" [11:36] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541409/ [11:41] aakshay: great, building source now [11:41] Riddell: thanks.. [11:42] Riddell: i have added one Build Dependencies "kdebase Runtime" in control file.. [11:43] aakshay: why is that? [11:46] Riddell: because when i was building it, it showed it as error as "kdebase runtime is needed".. but it was not mentioned in Build Dependencies.. [11:46] Riddell: so that the user will get in advance that kdebase runtime is also required [11:49] * apachelogger goes *lets compile Qt* again [11:49] aakshay: uploaded! [11:49] Riddell: yiipiii!!!!!! [11:50] Riddell: thankyou....... :) [11:50] Riddell: it was my first one.... where can i see this? [11:50] aakshay: it will appear shortly at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdetoys [11:51] Riddell: thanks again... now i will switch to big packages... :)... [11:51] Riddell: bye. :) [11:52] apachelogger: thanks for helping me... :)... bye [11:52] o/ [11:53] apachelogger: /o [12:27] Mamarok: Is markey the right person to mention to that qreal != double on armel and that's why amarok won't build at the moment? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60331043/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.amarok_2:2.3.90-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [12:32] ScottK: please ask in #amarok [12:32] I have to work now [12:32] the other devs are there too [12:32] ScottK: or, mail to amarok-devel@kde.org [12:33] we read everything, and reply [12:33] OK. [12:36] Done [12:38] nixternal: Can haz powerpc? [13:22] anybody started on the new polkit stuff? [13:22] nope [14:04] apachelogger: btw had a question about qt-language-selector, the patch we create, it will be applied in Qt? and what happens to other stuff that uses qt language selector python modules etc? i suspect this is what you would call a API/ABI change .... [14:05] shadeslayer: ? qt-language-selector isn't a library issue, it's an application [14:06] uh .. ok === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:11] bleh, polkit-qt-1 bumped its .so version to 1 without me noticing [14:11] and without bumping their major version :/ [14:13] this is why I don't like wildcards in library .install files [14:15] my only hope is to correct the package an upload it before the bad packages hit soyuz! [14:31] Riddell: The source of our different symbols on different arch problems is now pretty clearly not using pkgkde-symbolshelper for updates to symbols files. I'm about to upload kde4libs with a consistent set of symbols. Then I'll look into kdegraphics. [14:33] ScottK: what does pkgkde-symbolshelper do that updating .symbols files from build logs doesn't? [14:34] [muon] jmthomas * 1204899 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ApplicationDelegate.cpp To be safe, initialize the ApplicationExtender pointer in the ApplicationDelegate initializer list so it can never be used uninitialized [14:34] Riddell: It demangles the C++ symbols so they are more stable and common accross archs. [14:35] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html [14:36] mm, right [14:36] Riddell: Someone will still need to review the MISSING symbols and see if there are any that are a problem. [14:40] opengtl seems to benefit from it too, so I suspect we'll being doing this with C++ libraries in general ~soon. [15:20] No one did kdeedu? [15:20] Riddell: ^^^ - It's not in Natty? [15:21] should be there, let me check [15:22] failed to upload, going up now [15:25] Great. [15:36] markey: Seems a distinct lack of jumping right on it in #amarok. It's not critical for today, but should get fixed ~soon. [15:36] ScottK: please send to ML [15:37] much easier and better [15:37] amarok-devel@kde.org [15:37] you don't have to write a long mail [15:37] short is fine [15:37] OK. [15:37] thx [15:41] markey: Sent. [15:41] thx [15:42] I will mod it [15:42] accepted, and set your email to "always accept" [15:43] ScottK: yeah we will fix that quickly [15:43] should be easy [15:43] just needs a cast or so [15:43] Usually those are. [15:43] Yep [16:00] Riddell: Sad news about -workspace. I'm not sure what to do about that one. [16:03] ScottK: compiling locally now to see what's up [16:03] ScottK: also I uploaded koffice to the ARM ppa to test a fix [16:03] Riddell: Cool. You know you have access to our dev boxes if you want to work on that stuff, right? [16:07] oh aye [16:16] kdegraphics uploaded with a unified symbols file. [16:23] [muon] jmthomas * 1204911 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (9 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed) [16:23] Fix a bug where the progress bar would say "Removing" when you would [16:23] install/remove addons for an already-installed App. This required some big [16:38] apachelogger: Would you please arange for a minion to deal with a MIR for libasyncns so loudmouth can build (this is an amarok build-dep) [16:41] ScottK: mm? amarok has built [16:42] Riddell: Yes, but loudmouth is out of date so eventually we'll need this for NBS if nothing else. [16:44] mm, right enough === hrw is now known as hrw|gone [17:22] ScottK: I am doing an update to the machine and it will be rebooted in a couple of minutes. I will let you know when it is back up, re: ppc [17:22] nixternal: Thanks. [17:28] ScottK: it is up and running [17:28] Great. [18:13] -no-neon ftw! [18:13] gotta love this [18:14] shadeslayer: fancy doing a MIR? [18:27] someone already working on a new choqok package? [18:51] OMG! Kmail IMAP w/ Akonadi SUXorZ! bad [18:51] mm hmm? [18:51] Kmail remdered useless for me now [18:51] mine does not start no more [18:51] I think someone made a broken package :P [18:51] it worked before, now it is broken... go figure :P [18:51] why is there no orig.tar.gz for choqok? [18:52] rgreening: kmail works here on natty, but akonadi starts using useless resources after I close Kmail when using IMAP [18:52] neversfelde: maybe it is not original [18:52] Kmail remdered useless for me now [18:52] It's also appearing to do IMAP and not Disconnected IMAP which I had originally setup [18:52] kubotu_: I agree, must you renember typos tho? [18:52] hi abogani , how are you doing this weekend? [18:52] another question, how do I close kmail o.O? [18:52] (without killing it) [18:53] 4.5.85 [18:53] * Support for LibIndicate to use as an alternate notification system. (It's Optional) [18:53] this is mega yuk [18:53] probably interesting for us [18:53] neversfelde: how is that? [18:53] oh [18:53] * apachelogger is not sure that makes sense TBH [18:54] * apachelogger is not sure choqok in general makes sense, but that is another story [18:54] OMG. The tabs do not display riht either [18:55] Kmail is b0rked [18:55] compiling qt is of the utmost horriblyness [18:55] apachelogger: how to rever qt graphics to default? [18:55] revert [18:55] is it making the problems? [18:56] dunno. need to test [18:56] ASAP [18:56] oh wells [18:56] Probably Packages.gz out of battery oh dear [18:56] I hate Akonadi with IMAP! SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW [18:56] export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=native [18:56] utter crappage [18:57] ty apachelogger [18:57] if you want breakage.... [18:57] if you dont see it tonite, feel free to remind me again [18:57] export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl [18:57] or even go for [18:57] export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl2 [18:57] I am sure your kmail works well compared to that [18:57] ... [18:58] * apachelogger waits for the build farm to spit out a libQtOpenGL.so to steal [18:58] apachelogger: graphical foobar fixed by reverting [18:58] rgreening: foobar? [18:58] apachelogger: we need to revert back now [18:58] that is not exactly a good bug description :P [18:59] apachelogger: this isn't the only app misbehaving with graphical issues using the non default graphics for qt. Firefox with some videos flicker badly and have artifacts distorting the picture as well [18:59] hm, how do I actually know if I'm using native or raster? (should be raster since I'm using natty) [18:59] this? [19:00] * apachelogger notes that rgreening is making no sense and leaves for a smoke [19:00] apachelogger: the tabs in Kmail for instance do not display properly (seems a cache of wrong tab is shown) [19:00] yofel: my kcm has a tool to check [19:00] rgreening: sounds funny [19:00] * rgreening quit smoking 6 weeks ago (Riddell should be happy) [19:00] yay! [19:01] :) [19:01] ScottK: if I send you a server, can you hook it up with the arm boxes? ^^ [19:01] that should extend my life by a few more days [19:01] * apachelogger wants a qt build in under an hour [19:01] u7nless KmailAkonadi kils me soo [19:01]