[00:18]  * apachelogger is now reachable at sitter@kde.org \\o/
[00:19] <Riddell> you are now elite
[00:20] <apachelogger> not elite enough to get opengles
[00:20] <apachelogger> seems the meego kernel is not patchy enough to build our powervr dkms stuff 
[00:20] <apachelogger> which is pretty much a dead end now
[00:21]  * apachelogger is out of ideas on how to gles kubuntu mobile on the n900 at this point
[00:22] <apachelogger> although
[00:22]  * apachelogger gets daring and considers compiling a new meego kernel
[00:25] <apachelogger> also neon is failing
[00:31] <yofel> wth, launchpad gives:
[00:31] <yofel> kdebase-workspace - 4:4.5.2-0ubuntu1~ppa1 	(changes file) 	jr 	2010-10-05 	Superseded 	Maverick 	Kde 	
[00:31] <yofel> why the hell didn't that get deleted o.O
[00:34] <yofel> deleted it by hand, let's see if that helps
[00:41] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204778 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (9 files in 3 dirs) FEATURE: Initial support for addons management.
[00:43] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204780 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationDetailsView/ApplicationDetailsWidget.cpp Split some of this string out in to the tooltip
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> http://i.imgur.com/tlNdx.png
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> pretty much working, although it does have a few kinks
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> like the progress bar text says "Removing" when you are installing addons for a previously-installed app
[00:50] <Riddell> how does it find addons?
[00:57] <yofel> Riddell: it seems manually deleting kdebase-workspace 4:4.5.2 on launchpad resolved that apt confusion
[00:58] <Riddell> mm hmm, do we want that deleted?
[01:00] <yofel> we use 4.5.4 now? all that was left in the pool was 4.5.2 sources and the libweather-ion4a .debs, everything else was superseded
[01:01] <Riddell> hmm, would have expected that to be removed when the new version got in
[01:02] <yofel> right, launchpad silliness it seems
[01:02] <yofel> as I posted above, launchpad just marked it as superseded, but didn't completely remove it
[01:03] <Riddell> 4.5.85 being copied to beta
[01:04] <Riddell> kdepim and kdepim-runtime to experimental
[01:04]  * yofel wonders where aashkay went
[01:07] <Riddell> since I doubt any code has changed in kdetoys since beta 1 I'm not too fussed about waiting to see if he manages to get it finished
[01:09] <yofel> true
[01:18] <apachelogger> ok
[01:18] <apachelogger> this does not make sense
[01:18] <apachelogger> at all
[01:18] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204784 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp When language-selector is installed, don't pollute the addons list with large amounts of langpacks since language-selector presumably takes care of things.
[01:18] <apachelogger> powervr stuff fails to build with meego kernel because omap_rev_lt_3_0 is not defined
[01:18] <apachelogger> grepping our linux does not bring up any definition either
[01:27] <yofel> good night
[01:27] <apachelogger> nini yofel
[01:32] <apachelogger> I think my dpkg is broken
[01:32] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204786 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp Application.h) s/QList<QString>/QStringList (and include QStringList in Application.h so that things using it don't bomb)
[01:32] <apachelogger> stuck at unpacking amarok for a couple of minutes already
[01:36] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204787 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp Application.h) Const correctness
[01:36] <Riddell> kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6-beta-2
[01:39] <ScottK> Riddell: and JontheEchidna: I'm working on switching opengtl to use pkgkde-symbolshelper.  I think we can get away from per arch symbols files.
[01:39] <ScottK> (this will also be the solution on kdegraphics and other C++ libs)
[02:34]  * apachelogger got opengles on kubuntu-mobile with meego kernel
[02:34] <apachelogger> for some reason Qt fails with it though
[02:35] <apachelogger> doesnt manage to compile anything
[04:21] <ScottK> It's not like I've got it all worked out yet for KDE.
[04:56] <aakshay> how to add directories from base environment to chroot environment?
[05:02] <dasKreech> bind them
[05:03] <aakshay> dasKreech: bind with? please explain little
[05:04] <dasKreech> http://fermilinux.fnal.gov/documentation/tips/mount-bind-chroot
[05:04] <dasKreech> mount -o bind
[05:06] <aakshay> dasKreech: let me read the document and try this. thanks
[05:07] <aakshay> dasKreech: can you please tel me from where can i download teh code for kdetoys4.5.85
[05:07] <aakshay> dasKreech: *the
[05:08] <dasKreech> most likely the KDE svn
[05:08] <dasKreech> http:\\websvn.kde.org
[05:08] <dasKreech> or apt-get source :)
[05:10] <aakshay> daskreech: not getting this package by apt-get
[05:10] <aakshay> dasKreech: let me look at the websvn den
[05:10] <aakshay> dasKreech: thanks
[05:11] <dasKreech> I guess you know how to use subversion?
[05:11] <ScottK> dasKreech: I think he wants the tarball.
[05:11]  * ScottK is off to bed.
[05:12] <dasKreech> ah
[05:12] <dasKreech> ok
[05:12] <dasKreech> check in the tags or release directory then
[05:12] <aakshay> ScottK: hi. yes i need the tarball. the tarball you mailed me is not accessible in chroot environment. so i need to download in chroot
[05:13] <dasKreech> aakshay: can't you copy it into the chroot?
[05:14] <aakshay> dasKreech: nopes..looking for such command as you just told mount o- bind..  
[05:15] <dasKreech> mount -o
[05:15] <aakshay> dasKreech: will try this now
[05:17] <aakshay> dasKreech: yes :)
[05:17] <dasKreech> works?
[05:17] <aakshay> dasKreech: reading the document now
[05:24] <aakshay> dasKreech: it's more dealing with file system instead of directories. and being novice to ubuntu i am not able to understand exactly :(
[05:25] <dasKreech> aakshay: you are trying to get a single directory to exist under the chroot?
[05:25] <dasKreech> have you  tried a hard link?
[05:25] <aakshay> dasKreech: no i have not tried..
[05:26] <aakshay> dasKreech: i have to take the tarball from downloads and copy it to chroot for packaging
[05:26] <dasKreech> aakshay: So just copy it into the chroot
[05:27] <aakshay> dasKreech: so for this, first i am not able to  locate where the /home or any directories for chroot saved
[05:28] <aakshay> dasKreech: i made this chroot using the pbuilder
[05:28] <aakshay> dasKreech: so now how can i simply copy if i sont know the paths :(
[05:28] <dasKreech> right but it has a physical directory that exists on the filesystem right?
[05:28] <dasKreech> ah 
[05:28] <aakshay> *dont
[05:29] <aakshay> dasKreech: it must have, but how can i locate it.. i tried the LOCATE command but it din't shown
[05:30] <dasKreech> touch some strange unique file then run sudo updatedb && locate <filename>
[05:31] <aakshay> dasKreech: yups.. let me try
[05:34] <aakshay> dasKreech: yiipi!! worked... let me try to copy now.. thanks....:)
[05:39] <aakshay> dasKreech: done!!... thanks..
[05:48] <dasKreech> aakshay: 0k :)
[05:49] <dasKreech> aakshay: Where was the directory?
[05:49] <aakshay> dasKreech: it was in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/2960/
[05:49] <dasKreech> Ah Ok
[05:50] <aakshay> dasKreech:   :)
[05:56] <dasKreech> :-)
[05:59] <aakshay> dasKreech: can you please tell me the significance of secret ninja repositories? 
[06:01] <aakshay> dasKreech: when i  packaged first, riddell added his secret repositories. can you tel me what kinda repositories are these and whats their use?
[06:02] <dasKreech> To test things on i would suppose
[06:03] <dasKreech> ensure they work across multiple installs
[06:04] <dasKreech> but not be publicly available
[06:05] <aakshay> dasKreech: so how can i add them now? 
[08:04] <aakshay> in natty, to build kdetoys,  kde-sc-dev-latest and kdebase-workspace-dev together but if one is installed other needs to be removed.. so what can i do for this?
[08:11] <aakshay> in natty, to build kdetoys,  kde-sc-dev-latest and kdebase-workspace-dev together but if one is installed other needs to be removed.. so what can i do for this?
[08:11] <mfraz74> Is anyone else having problems launching programs  from the panel unless widgets are locked in KDE 4.6?
[08:35]  * apachelogger is not launching programs form the panel
[08:36] <apachelogger> aakshay: most supposedly you will need a newer kde-sc-dev-latest (or a newer kdebase-workspace-dev)
[08:36] <apachelogger> the former is there to ensure that the latter is at appropriate version, so if they clash I would suppose it is because latter is not yet updated
[08:36] <apachelogger> also see the ninja dependency graph
[08:37] <aakshay> apachelogger: let me check which version i have installed.
[08:38] <aakshay> apachelogger: i have installe dteh latest version only for kde-sc -dev latest
[08:39] <apachelogger> aakshay: what are you trying to do?
[08:39] <aakshay> apachelogger: and it asked "y/n" choice before installing
[08:40] <aakshay> apachelogger: i am trying to build the kdetoys-4.5.85
[08:40] <apachelogger> ohohooh
[08:40] <apachelogger> you have access to the ninjas ppa?
[08:40] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes, but not sure
[08:40] <aakshay> apachelogger: i am novice to this development
[08:41] <apachelogger> well, ninjaing is a bit of a tricky thing when one only started with packaging :)
[08:41] <apachelogger> aakshay: you are in a pbuilder chroot?
[08:42] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes
[08:42] <apachelogger> ok
[08:42] <aakshay> apachelogger: i have access to ninja ppa as well.. i have just checked
[08:42] <aakshay> apachelogger: :)
[08:42] <apachelogger> aakshay: make sure the ninjas ppa is in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:43] <apachelogger> (I would suggest grep -ri ninjas /etc/apt/)
[08:43] <aakshay> apachelogger: its not  added in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:43] <apachelogger> that would probably be your problem then
[08:44] <apachelogger> aakshay: at your launchpad home https://launchpad.net/~akshaytayal you should somehwere find a link that goes like 'view your private ppa stuffs and things'
[08:44] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes .. its there
[08:44] <apachelogger> there you should be able to get a sources.list entry for the ninjas ppa
[08:45] <aakshay> okiez
[08:45] <apachelogger> then copy that to /etc/apt/sources.list in your chroot
[08:45] <apachelogger> and install apt-transport-https
[08:45] <aakshay> apachelogger: i found
[08:45] <apachelogger> then run apt-get update to update the package cache
[08:45] <aakshay> apachelogger: ok.. let me do this
[08:46] <apachelogger> now kdebase-workspace should be isntallable in appropriate version
[08:46] <aakshay> apachelogger: ok... :)...
[08:46] <apachelogger> yofel_, Riddell: ^ how do you handle the ppa entries?
[08:46] <apachelogger> interested in a pbuilder hook maybe? ;)
[08:47] <aakshay> apachelogger: is it for me?
[08:47] <apachelogger> aakshay: what? a hook?
[08:47] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes... is it for me "interested in a pbuilder hook maybe?"
[08:47] <apachelogger> well, yes, also yofel_ and Riddell ;)
[08:48] <aakshay> apachelogger: what is that then? i hardly have any idea about it
[08:49] <apachelogger> yeah, primarily I directed that question to the other twos ;)
[08:49] <apachelogger> aakshay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment
[08:49] <apachelogger> see the pbuilder-hooks secition
[08:49] <aakshay> apachelogger: ok. let me see
[08:50] <apachelogger> pbuilder hooks are scripts that can be hooked into the pbuilder setup/shutdown process to do all sorts of things (in our case: make things easier)
[08:52] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes.. it adds functionalities to packaging tools..
[08:52] <aakshay> apachelogger: i will use this...
[08:53] <aakshay> apachelogger: i am working on language diffrerentiator 85 patch as well.. but it been written for 4.4. something
[08:54] <aakshay> apachelogger: so i think i need to start from the very begining?
[08:54] <apachelogger> yes
[08:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer knows the details IIRC
[08:54] <apachelogger> also the problem is not so much that the patch was created for 4.4, but that it was badly written from a maintenance POV
[08:54] <zegenie_> is there an easy way to use the beta packages as shown on the ninja packaging page?
[08:55] <apachelogger> zegenie_: pardon?
[08:55] <aakshay> apachelogger: ok.. i have read the HIG designing guide..i am working with shadeslayer on the patch..
[08:55] <zegenie_> sorry, I was probably being too unspecific
[08:56] <zegenie_>  the ninja packaging page for kde 4.6b2 lists that most packages are available for maverick in the ninja/bzr repo, correct?
[08:56] <aakshay> apachelogger: let me edit my sources.list now....
[08:56] <apachelogger> zegenie_: yes?
[08:56] <zegenie_> so, I was trying to find a way to test these packages, but couldn't find it
[08:56] <apachelogger> you cannot
[08:56] <zegenie_> aww
[08:56] <zegenie_> sad face.
[08:56] <apachelogger> since the stack is not assambled
[08:57] <apachelogger> once it is the packages get moved to natty
[08:57] <zegenie_> and maverick ... ?
[08:57] <apachelogger> and work on maverick packages starts
[08:57] <apachelogger> zegenie_: that page is about natty
[08:57] <zegenie_> it lists maverick, too
[08:57] <apachelogger> ah
[08:57] <apachelogger> true
[08:57] <apachelogger> well, that will also get moved once the stack is completely
[08:57] <apachelogger> -ly
[08:57] <zegenie_> cool
[08:58] <zegenie_> so will beta 2 be published in the kubuntu/beta repo eventually?
[08:58] <apachelogger> yes
[08:58] <zegenie_> cause beta 1 wasn't ..
[08:58] <zegenie_> good, then I have nothing else to add
[08:58] <apachelogger> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6-beta-2
[08:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: how does it work that it is published but misses the kdetoys package?
[09:03] <zegenie_> apachelogger: I can't find those packages anywhere in the repo  after doing an apt-get update
[09:04] <zegenie_> only packages I see available are kdepim packages from the experimental repo
[09:04] <apachelogger> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta
[09:04] <apachelogger> they are there
[09:05] <zegenie_> apachelogger: nvm, pebkac
[09:06] <aakshay> apachelogger: thanks... it worked and i have both installed now... :)
[09:09] <apachelogger> great
[10:16] <markey> Riddell: apachelogger: somehow the KDE 4.6 upgrade broke the SSH passphrase tool that I use for authentication at startup
[10:16] <markey> that tool was really awesome
[10:16] <markey> (you type in your passphrase after booting)
[10:16] <markey> now, it no longer comes up
[10:24] <mfraz74> if i try to submit a bug and it wants to install debug packages, it just hangs waiting for authorisation, which i presume means  it is waiting for a password to allow it to install?
[10:24] <valorie> I think it's searching
[10:25] <markey> oi
[10:25] <valorie> and dbg packages install without permissions needed, I think
[10:25] <markey> apachelogger: Riddell: in other news, VLC is now broken
[10:25] <markey> try to open a file...
[10:25] <markey> hangs
[10:25] <markey> not good
[10:25] <apachelogger> lovely
[10:25] <mfraz74> valorie: i've got a window titled qapt batch installer with a bar just going from left to right
[10:26] <markey> apachelogger: it's likely an issue with the file selector dialog
[10:26] <valorie> right, sometimes it searches for quite awhile
[10:26] <Riddell> markey: Mamarok knows how to fix the ssh thing
[10:26] <markey> Riddell: ah, thanks
[10:26] <markey> apachelogger: wait, now it workeed
[10:26] <markey> took 1 minute
[10:26] <markey> Oo
[10:26] <mfraz74> valorie: it has been doing it for over 5 minutes
[10:26] <valorie> ugh
[10:26] <valorie> in which case, it won't find anything anyway
[10:27] <valorie> in my experience
[10:27] <markey> wow
[10:27] <mfraz74> it found the packages it wanted to install, but then stopped with this window waiting for authorisation
[10:27] <markey> my Core i7 is too slow for decoding a HD Bluray film
[10:27] <markey> (ripped)
[10:27] <markey> it stutters
[10:27] <markey> weird
[10:27] <mfraz74> markey: what gpu have you got?
[10:27] <markey> mfraz74: ThinkPad X201, Core i7, VLC
[10:28] <markey> Intel graphics
[10:28] <mfraz74> could it be a problem with intel graphics?
[10:28] <markey> maybe
[10:28] <markey> normally it works fine
[10:28] <markey> CPU load is not that high either
[10:28] <markey> quality is insanely good, though, on my IPS TFT display :)
[10:28] <markey> and with the new speakers
[10:29] <markey> beats cinema :D
[10:29] <markey> (watchig Avatar)
[10:29] <apachelogger> markey: is that with beta2?
[10:29] <apachelogger> beta1 had kfiledialog/dolphin problems
[10:29] <markey> apachelogger: no, I've just upgraded, need to reboot
[10:30] <markey> apachelogger: ah, the main problem was compositing
[10:30] <markey> got a little better now, without that
[10:41]  * apachelogger starts crying
[10:45]  * jussi huggles apachelogger
[10:46]  * valorie hands over the kleenex box
[11:00] <aakshay> Riddell: hi.. i am done with packaging of kdetoys-4.5.85.. now can you please sign it and tel me what to do next?
[11:02] <Riddell> aakshay: great, I just need a debdiff from the current version
[11:02] <Riddell> download the current version
[11:02] <Riddell> debdiff <old>.dsc <new>.dsc
[11:03] <aakshay> Riddell: ok. let me download
[11:14] <aakshay> Riddell: its showing error to read old.dsc "debdiff: fatal error at line 314: Can't read file: kdetoys-4.5.80.dsc"
[11:18] <apachelogger> this opengles stuff is super depressing
[11:20] <aakshay> apachelogger: ^^
[11:20] <apachelogger> aakshay: well, that filename sounds invalid
[11:21] <apachelogger> it is more likely something like kdetoys_4.5.80-0ubuntu1324532foobarllalala.dsc
[11:21] <apachelogger> tab-autocomplete will know ;)
[11:22] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes.. you are very right.. its rong.. :(.... 
[11:32] <aakshay> Riddell: its too long file. how can i show you?
[11:33] <aakshay> apachelogger: the file is too long.. how can i show this to Riddell??
[11:34] <Riddell> aakshay: too bit to put into a pastebin website?  paste.ubuntu.com
[11:35] <aakshay> Riddell: URl is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/541409/"
[11:36] <aakshay> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541409/
[11:41] <Riddell> aakshay: great, building source now
[11:41] <aakshay> Riddell: thanks..
[11:42] <aakshay> Riddell: i have added one Build Dependencies "kdebase Runtime" in control file.. 
[11:43] <Riddell> aakshay: why is that?
[11:46] <aakshay> Riddell: because when i was building it, it showed it as error as "kdebase runtime is needed".. but it was not mentioned in Build Dependencies..
[11:46] <aakshay> Riddell: so that the user will get in advance that kdebase runtime is also required
[11:49]  * apachelogger goes *lets compile Qt* again
[11:49] <Riddell> aakshay: uploaded!
[11:49] <aakshay> Riddell: yiipiii!!!!!!
[11:50] <aakshay> Riddell: thankyou.......  :)
[11:50] <aakshay> Riddell: it was my first one.... where can i see this?
[11:50] <Riddell> aakshay: it will appear shortly at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdetoys
[11:51] <aakshay> Riddell: thanks again... now i  will switch to big packages... :)...
[11:51] <aakshay> Riddell: bye. :)
[11:52] <aakshay> apachelogger: thanks for helping me...  :)... bye
[11:52] <apachelogger> o/
[11:53] <aakshay> apachelogger: /o
[12:27] <ScottK> Mamarok: Is markey the right person to mention to that qreal != double on armel and that's why amarok won't build at the moment? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60331043/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.amarok_2:2.3.90-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:32] <markey> ScottK: please ask in #amarok
[12:32] <markey> I have to work now
[12:32] <markey> the other devs are there too
[12:32] <markey> ScottK: or, mail to amarok-devel@kde.org
[12:33] <markey> we read everything, and reply
[12:33] <ScottK> OK.
[12:36] <ScottK> Done
[12:38] <ScottK> nixternal: Can haz powerpc?
[13:22] <JontheEchidna> anybody started on the new polkit stuff?
[13:22] <Riddell> nope
[14:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw had a question about qt-language-selector, the patch we create, it will be applied in Qt? and what happens to other stuff that uses qt language selector python modules etc?  i suspect this is what you would call a API/ABI change ....
[14:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ?  qt-language-selector isn't a library issue, it's an application
[14:06] <shadeslayer> uh .. ok
[14:11] <JontheEchidna> bleh, polkit-qt-1 bumped its .so version to 1 without me noticing
[14:11] <JontheEchidna> and without bumping their major version :/
[14:13] <JontheEchidna> this is why I don't like wildcards in library .install files
[14:15] <JontheEchidna> my only hope is to correct the package an upload it before the bad packages hit soyuz!
[14:31] <ScottK> Riddell: The source of our different symbols on different arch problems is now pretty clearly not using pkgkde-symbolshelper for updates to symbols files.  I'm about to upload kde4libs with a consistent set of symbols.  Then I'll look into kdegraphics.
[14:33] <Riddell> ScottK: what does pkgkde-symbolshelper do that updating .symbols files from build logs doesn't?
[14:34] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204899 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ApplicationDelegate.cpp To be safe, initialize the ApplicationExtender pointer in the ApplicationDelegate initializer list so it can never be used uninitialized
[14:34] <ScottK> Riddell: It demangles the C++ symbols so they are more stable and common accross archs.
[14:35] <ScottK> http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html
[14:36] <Riddell> mm, right
[14:36] <ScottK> Riddell: Someone will still need to review the MISSING symbols and see if there are any that are a problem.
[14:40] <ScottK> opengtl seems to benefit from it too, so I suspect we'll being doing this with C++ libraries in general ~soon.
[15:20] <ScottK> No one did kdeedu?
[15:20] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ - It's not in Natty?
[15:21] <Riddell> should be there, let me check
[15:22] <Riddell> failed to upload, going up now
[15:25] <ScottK> Great.
[15:36] <ScottK> markey: Seems a distinct lack of jumping right on it in #amarok.  It's not critical for today, but should get fixed ~soon.
[15:36] <markey> ScottK: please send to ML
[15:37] <markey> much easier and better
[15:37] <markey> amarok-devel@kde.org
[15:37] <markey> you don't have to write a long mail
[15:37] <markey> short is fine
[15:37] <ScottK> OK.
[15:37] <markey> thx
[15:41] <ScottK> markey: Sent.
[15:41] <markey> thx
[15:42] <markey> I will mod it
[15:42] <markey> accepted, and set your email to "always accept"
[15:43] <markey> ScottK: yeah we will fix that quickly
[15:43] <markey> should be easy
[15:43] <markey> just needs a cast or so
[15:43] <ScottK> Usually those are.
[15:43] <ScottK> Yep
[16:00] <ScottK> Riddell: Sad news about -workspace.  I'm not sure what to do about that one.
[16:03] <Riddell> ScottK: compiling locally now to see what's up
[16:03] <Riddell> ScottK: also I uploaded koffice to the ARM ppa to test a fix
[16:03] <ScottK> Riddell: Cool.  You know you have access to our dev boxes if you want to work on that stuff, right?
[16:07] <Riddell> oh aye
[16:16] <ScottK> kdegraphics uploaded with a unified symbols file.
[16:23] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204911 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (9 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[16:23] <CIA-24> Fix a bug where the progress bar would say "Removing" when you would
[16:23] <CIA-24> install/remove addons for an already-installed App. This required some big
[16:38] <ScottK> apachelogger: Would you please arange for a minion to deal with a MIR for libasyncns so loudmouth can build (this is an amarok build-dep)
[16:41] <Riddell> ScottK: mm?  amarok has built
[16:42] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes, but loudmouth is out of date so eventually we'll need this for NBS if nothing else.
[16:44] <Riddell> mm, right enough
[17:22] <nixternal> ScottK: I am doing an update to the machine and it will be rebooted in a couple of minutes. I will let you know when it is back up, re: ppc
[17:22] <ScottK> nixternal: Thanks.
[17:28] <nixternal> ScottK: it is up and running
[17:28] <ScottK> Great.
[18:13] <apachelogger> -no-neon ftw!
[18:13] <apachelogger> gotta love this 
[18:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: fancy doing a MIR?
[18:27] <neversfelde> someone already working on a new choqok package?
[18:51] <rgreening> OMG! Kmail IMAP w/ Akonadi SUXorZ! bad
[18:51] <Riddell> mm hmm?
[18:51] <rgreening> Kmail remdered useless for me now
[18:51] <apachelogger> mine does not start no more
[18:51] <apachelogger> I think someone made a broken package :P
[18:51] <apachelogger> it worked before, now it is broken... go figure :P
[18:51] <neversfelde> why is there no orig.tar.gz for choqok?
[18:52] <yofel> rgreening: kmail works here on natty, but akonadi starts using useless resources after I close Kmail when using IMAP
[18:52] <apachelogger> neversfelde: maybe it is not original
[18:52] <kubotu_> Kmail remdered useless for me now
[18:52] <rgreening> It's also appearing to do IMAP and not Disconnected IMAP which I had originally setup
[18:52] <apachelogger> kubotu_: I agree, must you renember typos tho?
[18:52] <kubotu_> hi abogani , how are you doing this weekend?
[18:52] <yofel> another question, how do I close kmail o.O?
[18:52] <yofel> (without killing it)
[18:53] <yofel> 4.5.85
[18:53] <neversfelde> * Support for LibIndicate to use as an alternate notification system. (It's Optional)
[18:53] <rgreening> this is mega yuk
[18:53] <neversfelde> probably interesting for us
[18:53] <apachelogger> neversfelde: how is that?
[18:53] <apachelogger> oh
[18:53]  * apachelogger is not sure that makes sense TBH
[18:54]  * apachelogger is not sure choqok in general makes sense, but that is another story
[18:54] <rgreening> OMG. The tabs do not display riht either
[18:55] <rgreening> Kmail is b0rked
[18:55] <apachelogger> compiling qt is of the utmost horriblyness
[18:55] <rgreening> apachelogger: how to rever qt graphics to default?
[18:55] <rgreening> revert
[18:55] <apachelogger> is it making the problems?
[18:56] <rgreening> dunno. need to test
[18:56] <rgreening> ASAP
[18:56] <apachelogger> oh wells
[18:56] <kubotu_> Probably Packages.gz out of battery oh dear
[18:56] <rgreening> I hate Akonadi with IMAP! SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[18:56] <apachelogger> export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=native
[18:56] <rgreening> utter crappage
[18:57] <rgreening> ty apachelogger
[18:57] <apachelogger> if you want breakage....
[18:57] <kubotu_> if you dont see it tonite, feel free to remind me again
[18:57] <apachelogger> export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl
[18:57] <apachelogger> or even go for
[18:57] <apachelogger> export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl2
[18:57] <apachelogger> I am sure your kmail works well compared to that
[18:57] <apachelogger> ...
[18:58]  * apachelogger waits for the build farm to spit out a libQtOpenGL.so to steal
[18:58] <rgreening> apachelogger: graphical foobar fixed by reverting
[18:58] <apachelogger> rgreening: foobar?
[18:58] <rgreening> apachelogger: we need to revert back now
[18:58] <apachelogger> that is not exactly a good bug description :P
[18:59] <rgreening> apachelogger: this isn't the only app misbehaving with graphical issues using the non default graphics for qt. Firefox with some videos flicker badly and have artifacts distorting the picture as well
[18:59] <yofel> hm, how do I actually know if I'm using native or raster? (should be raster since I'm using natty)
[18:59] <apachelogger> this?
[19:00]  * apachelogger notes that rgreening is making no sense and leaves for a smoke
[19:00] <rgreening> apachelogger: the tabs in Kmail for instance do not display properly (seems a cache of wrong tab is shown)
[19:00] <apachelogger> yofel: my kcm has a tool to check
[19:00] <apachelogger> rgreening: sounds funny
[19:00]  * rgreening quit smoking 6 weeks ago (Riddell should be happy)
[19:00] <Riddell> yay!
[19:01] <rgreening> :)
[19:01] <apachelogger> ScottK: if I send you a server, can you hook it up with the arm boxes? ^^
[19:01] <rgreening> that should extend my life by a few more days
[19:01]  * apachelogger wants a qt build in under an hour
[19:01] <rgreening> u7nless KmailAkonadi kils me soo
[19:01] <rgreening> ner
[19:01] <ScottK> Riddell and JontheEchidna: -workspace and polkit-qt freed from New
[19:01] <ScottK> apachelogger: How big is this box?
[19:01] <Riddell> ScottK: lovely
[19:02] <apachelogger> ScottK: I was thinking about something along 128 cpus or so...
[19:02] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'd have to move the arm boxes out of the closet for that, but sure.
[19:06] <apachelogger> very well, I shall harass the ibm dude I met the other day then
[19:06] <apachelogger> not that I am overly confident I will actually get such a monster
[19:07] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Could you take a look at the avogadro FTBFS?  It needs more know how than I can muster.
[19:07]  * JontheEchidna peeks
[19:08] <apachelogger> could someone package phonon-backend-vlc?
[19:08] <apachelogger> that reminds me that I have a k3b fix lying around
[19:08] <JontheEchidna> /build/buildd/avogadro-1.0.1/libavogadro/src/python/sip.cpp:207:21: error: 'struct sipSimpleWrapper' has no member named 'u'
[19:08] <kubotu_> or rather, it will not repeat itself though
[19:08] <JontheEchidna> perhaps an SIP api change?
[19:09] <apachelogger> here I am wondering why one would name a member 'u'
[19:09] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[19:09] <apachelogger> that is almost as horribly as the hashing functions I wrote yesterday, which consistenly only of a, b, i, r, x and k
[19:10] <ScottK> Perhaps.  It probably just got rebuilt for python2.7.
[19:10] <apachelogger> surely my algorithms tutor will love to read that code
[19:10] <apachelogger> :D
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: http://imgur.com/C3J8C
[19:24] <apachelogger> :O
[19:24]  * apachelogger faints
[19:28] <rgreening> startup sound playing twice under natty?
[19:29] <ScottK> nixternal: Done for now.  Thanks.
[19:29] <kubotu_> We can use udisks for the things i want to make the upgrade work.
[19:30] <yofel> rgreening: sounds like bug 688166
[19:30] <yofel> I don't have sounds on here
[19:30] <rgreening> heh. k
[19:32] <rgreening> apachelogger: so, setting qt graphics globally was required to fix the graphics issues btw. we will have to revert to native as the current is still too unstable and leaves artifacts in videos. Sub par for any release IMO
[19:35] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: so were you getting things like corrupted icons?
[19:36] <rgreening> no,l but video was messed up and Kmail tab controls did not work correctly (E.G. show wrong tab from tab index and they may end up corrupted)
[19:36] <kubotu_> got my vtiger CRM up and running this afternoon
[19:36]  * apachelogger did not see no video problems at all
[19:36] <kubotu_> Haven't looked at all
[19:37] <apachelogger> also that seems rather odd
[19:37] <rgreening> maybe that was a firefox thing
[19:37]  * rgreening checks
[19:37] <apachelogger> entirely possible
[19:37] <apachelogger> phonon-gst does overlay painting, which completely bypasses Qt IIRC
[19:38] <rgreening> video 100% works now in firefox since reverting the qt graphics. so, definately related somehow
[19:38] <apachelogger> (unless it cannot, in which case it does surface paintaing which then is in the domain of Qt)
[19:38] <apachelogger> possibly qtcurve suckyness?
[19:38] <apachelogger> when are we switching to that oxygen thing?
[19:42]  * rgreening thinks its time to play nazi zombies
[19:43] <rgreening> apachelogger: nm. the firefox video issue still occurs. damn. seperate issue I gues. prb adobe flash
[19:44] <apachelogger> hm
[19:44] <apachelogger> but blaming Qt
[19:44] <apachelogger> :P
[19:44] <kubotu_> see the maverick-changes mailing list but there's only bug fixes allowed in updates, no UI changes
[19:49] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204945 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ApplicationExtender.cpp Compile fix
[19:55] <CIA-24> [k3b] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20101209195517-tlt596gjdyfy1weh * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Add kubuntu_05_no_system_settings.diff to prevent crash with KDE 4.6's solid (KDE BUG 249371)
[19:56] <rgreening> is default browser pointing to arora? I started a new session and no arora installed and its set as the default browser (not by me)
[20:08] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1204947 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationDetailsView/ (ApplicationDetailsWidget.cpp ApplicationDetailsWidget.h) Layouting tweaks. It'd be cool to once I find the time do a history lookup to discover/display when a package was installed.
[20:19] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Do you think you could help out with evaluating missing symbols?
[20:19] <ScottK> Now that the beta's out, it probably time we should care.
[20:20] <ulysses> kde bug 249373
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: sure. I assume we should just remove the missing ones if its okay?
[20:23] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Yes.
[20:23] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: The symbols files for kde4libs, kdepimlibs, and kdegraphics have all been checked with symbolshelper and are needing review.  kdepimlibs is just in bzr.  The other two are in the archive.
[20:24] <ScottK> IIRC, there may not be any in graphics.
[20:24] <JontheEchidna> ok. I just need to figure out the right QSizePolicy to use for this widget and then I'll get on it
[20:24] <ScottK> Cool.
[20:33] <JontheEchidna> trying to figure out how to get the addons view a bit smaller by default: http://i.imgur.com/P8qao.png
[20:34] <JontheEchidna> QSizePolicy::Maximum for the vertical policy isn't working though :(
[20:36] <JontheEchidna> it's not way too big, but a bit smaller would be nice: http://i.imgur.com/388wL.png
[20:51] <yofel> apachelogger: can you put fixed k3b into beta backports for maverick too, or should I do it? bug 688214
[20:51] <kubotu_> should i or should i or should i or should i or should i not, make a plan and tackle it step by step... it's important that you are in charge of the utmost horriblyness
[20:57] <ScottK> Does it involve raising my electricity bill significantly?
[20:57] <ulysses> lol kubotu_ 
[21:05] <apachelogger> yofel: please do
[21:05] <yofel> k
[21:14]  * ScottK will be mostly offline the next three days.
[21:43] <Riddell> make[3]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libpython2.6.so', needed by `lib/libcompoundviewer.so.4.6.0'.  Stop.
[21:43] <Riddell> tsk, python broke kdeedu
[21:47] <ScottK> Riddell: Add python-all-dev as a temporary work around.  It's a transition bug.
[21:47] <ScottK> See ya.
[21:47] <Riddell> thanks, have fun ScottK 
[21:50] <ulysses> http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/6ae84f1183e91c910ca92a55e37f8254ace805c0
[21:51] <ulysses> could we use this patch?:P
[21:56] <Riddell> ulysses: if it fixes a problem we have and you want to add it to our packages please do
[22:01] <CIA-24> [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101209220132-ptweijav9snvvzk5 * debian/ (15 files) Get rid of missing symbols that were either private or pollution from linked libraries. (The KRating* move from libnepomuk to kdeui is not an ABI break since libnepomuk links against kdeui)
[22:08] <ulysses> Riddell: Should I apply the patch, and make a debdiff?
[22:26] <ulysses> Is kubuntu_91_fix_qtextedit_selectall_crash.patch a proper name for a patch?
[22:26] <Riddell> ulysses: that sound proper yes
[22:27] <Riddell> you can commit to bzr if you want, or a debdiff is fine too
[23:23] <Riddell> hmm, Chromium keeps crashing and Firefox doesn't even start up.  and people moan about rekonq?
[23:23] <kubotu_> startup sound playing twice under natty?
[23:38] <apachelogger> oh
[23:38] <apachelogger> dear
[23:39] <kubotu_> oh? what's in there?
[23:39] <apachelogger> you got to be kidding me
[23:39]  * apachelogger built in the flipping wrong pbuilder
[23:39] <apachelogger> argh1!!!!!Q!!!!!
[23:39] <apachelogger> I hate it, hate it, hate it