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Ginbuntuseems my drive does not have TRIM support :-(00:00
Ginbuntuyofel: where do I see which bugs are fixed for kde 4.6?00:05
yofelnot sure, I usually follow those that affect me directly or just listen to the dev talk00:07
eMyllerwhat happened to ssh-agent?00:07
eMyllermy kde sessions aren't wrapped into ssh-agent anymore00:07
eMyllerhow can i re enable it?00:07
yofeleMyller: try this:00:09
yofel<Mamarok> piquadrat: type ssh-agent and the paste the output of this command in the konsole00:09
yofel<Mamarok> after that ssh-add should work00:09
eMylleryofel: it works but only for the current shell00:09
eMyllernot globally to my session :\00:09
Mamarokyofel: I know, no need to tell me00:10
yofelMamarok: oops, sorry00:10
Mamarokthat's the same thing I told piquadrat earlier this morning00:10
yofelright, I just copy/pasted that and got that wrong :/00:10
eMylleryofel: nvm, it worked for the whole session! :D00:10
eMyllerthanks guys00:11
* eMyller wonders is a .sh with "eval ssh-agent" can do this automagically00:12
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Ginbuntuwhen is kde 4.6 beta 2 coming to 10.10?00:34
djusticeGinbuntu: dunno.. it's been in chakra -testing for over a week tho i think..00:41
djusticelots of stuff borked.00:41
djusticethe mime kcm. kdesu behavior changes..00:41
djusticemost notably the mime kcm causing nonsense..00:41
djusticenepomuk doesn't like the upgrade either..00:41
Ginbuntulooks like I wil lhave to wait another week then00:42
TorchGinbuntu: don't run pre-release KDE unless you want to help fix bugs00:42
djusticeindeed.00:42
djusticemight as well just kdesrc-build...00:42
djusticecuz *cough* debian/lintian/dh_foo sucks *cough*00:43
RiddellGinbuntu: I'm publishing it now00:47
Walzmynwhere do you find the setting to make windows snap to each other's edges?01:43
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guest33i was wondering can grub boot up unubuntu?01:57
guest33ubuntu*01:57
tsimpsonyes, it uses grub by default01:57
guest33grub 201:57
guest33im not using grub 201:58
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guest33everything ive try hasnt worked01:59
guest33adding ubuntu to grub01:59
guest33i can kubuntu 10.10 and ubuntu 10.0401:59
guest33but doesnt load01:59
guest33i had to add 10.10 and 10.04 to grub02:00
guest33it was there before02:00
guest33wasnt*02:00
tsimpsongrub2 is the default since karmic 9.1002:01
guest33im using opensuse 11.3 grub loader02:01
tsimpsonboth should be able to boot any version of ubuntu02:01
guest33i dont think so02:01
guest33i dont think grub one can02:02
guest33grub can02:02
guest33but opensuse 11.3 doesnt use grub 202:02
moetunesany grub can boot any os if you get the entries right02:02
guest33hang on02:03
guest33i have a question02:51
guest33i hear crickets02:52
Picithe crickets await your question.02:53
guest33oh02:53
guest33well im trying to add ubuntu to grub02:53
guest33everything ive try failed02:53
guest33im not using grub 202:54
guest33hang on let me pastbin what i have in the menu02:54
guest33are you there?02:56
KuKuNutwe are here02:56
SnowhogWe are every where02:57
guest33k02:57
guest33http://pastebin.com/3ve0AjUq02:57
KuKuNutguest33: what system has the grub?02:57
KuKuNutnver mind02:58
guest33opensuse 11.302:58
guest33from i i saw02:58
guest33chainloader +1 should just work02:59
guest33but it doesnt02:59
guest33i saw a post where i can just use grub 202:59
guest33but i want brub one lol02:59
guest33grub*02:59
guest33any idea?02:59
moetuneschainloader is for windows - don't use it for linux os's03:00
andrewh192ok03:00
andrewh192question03:00
guest33you kidding me right?03:00
moetunesnope03:00
andrewh192i am tryin to install amazonmp3.deb03:00
KuKuNutdid you install grub in the Kubuntu?03:00
guest33probably03:00
guest33grub two03:00
andrewh192and when it opens in the package installer03:00
andrewh192it comes up with an error stating03:00
andrewh192Status: Error: Dependency is not satisifiable: libboost-filesystem1.34.103:01
guest33hmm nope03:01
andrewh192so i installed the libboost from synaptic03:01
guest33i get a exe5 error on 10.0403:01
andrewh192and i still get the same error message after installing the missing file03:01
KuKuNutguest33: the chainload works bec it transfer the bootload to the Kubuntu03:01
andrewh192does anyone have any experience with installing amazon.com's mp3 download/install progrma on kubuntu 10.1003:02
guest33and, gtkpod03:02
guest33and also try banshee03:02
andrewh192you talking to me guest3303:02
andrewh192?03:02
guest33yes03:02
andrewh192well, it says i need the their program in order to download the songs off their site03:03
guest33oh03:03
andrewh192and i can't seem to install their program03:03
guest33it is a exe?03:03
guest33see if wine can run it03:03
guest33appdb03:04
guest33http://appdb.winehq.org/03:04
guest33i am a noob03:04
guest33but i do know a little bit03:04
andrewh192well03:05
andrewh192i don't think that's the prob i am having03:05
andrewh192when i try to install the deb file, it says Status: Error: Dependency is not satisifiable: libboost-filesystem1.34.103:05
guest33what are they wanting you to install?03:05
guest33oh03:06
andrewh192that libboost thing03:06
andrewh192which i have installed03:06
andrewh192and i still get the same message03:06
guest33the only thing i know what to do is try reinstalling libboost03:06
guest33well heres what im thinking03:07
guest33installing opensuse 11.303:08
guest33the kubuntu 10.0403:08
guest33then using grub 203:08
guest33thats what im thinking03:08
KuKuNutguest33: you can let Kubuntu takes care of the grub03:11
guest33well i can load kubuntu right now lol03:12
guest33either one of them03:12
guest33cant*03:12
KuKuNutguest33: don't follow you03:12
guest33well i can boot them up03:13
guest33anyway i know of03:13
KuKuNutguest33: ok..once you are in let kubuntu do it.  do update-grub and then grub-install to /dev/sda03:13
guest33how do i load kubuntu from start?03:14
KuKuNutguest33: I thought you can boot to Kubuntu?03:14
guest33nope lol03:14
guest33i can look around03:15
guest33in them from suse03:15
guest33i have 10.04 k and 10.10 installed03:15
guest3310.10 kubuntu03:15
KuKuNutboot and mount are different things03:15
guest33i know03:15
guest33i can mount them03:15
KuKuNutso why did you say you can boot them?03:16
guest33i may of03:16
guest33typos03:16
guest33well ive been trying to add them to grub one03:16
guest33i read the entire grub manually still didnt get me anywhere03:17
guest33manual*03:18
KuKuNutyou can add a kernel and initrd line03:18
guest33initrd?03:18
guest33i dont know what that is03:18
guest33im googling it03:19
KuKuNutlinux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=c1b6e3d4-c3cc-4fd3-be92-d4e480177f54 ro03:19
KuKuNutinitrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic03:19
guest33i need to add that in menu.03:20
KuKuNutadd ^^ the 2 lines like that.. remove the chainload line03:20
guest33loads the file system into memory03:20
KuKuNutyou need to know the UUID03:20
KuKuNutand kernel initrd image03:21
guest33i dont know what is UUID03:21
guest33im on wiki03:22
SReidI'm getting REAL confused and annoyed with Kubuntu and smooth fonts :(03:22
GabrielYYZanyone knows if the Qt SDK download on qt.nokia.com works with kubuntu 10.10? on the website says verified with 8.04/8.10 only03:22
GabrielYYZguest33: UUID = universally unique identifier03:23
k0shi there! can anybody help me with the wine?03:23
guest33gab, i read a little bit on wiki i still dont know what it is lol03:24
guest33the line after root i need kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=c1b6e3d4-c3cc-4fd3-be92-d4e480177f54 ro03:24
SReidOk if anyones interested, I install Kubuntu Fresh, download updates, install nvidia restricted drivers...everythings perfect, the fonts look so good and crisp just like a Mac OSX or something, perfect.03:24
guest33correct?03:24
SReidthen I restart a few times, and at some random time, the fonts just arn't the same, they arn't smooth etc03:25
KuKuNutguest33: yes03:25
SReidand i've changed all kinds of settings, and nothing makes it the way it was before >_<03:25
guest33next would be initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic03:25
KuKuNutyes03:26
userk03:26
guest33k03:26
KuKuNutguest33: do a list of /dev/disk/by-uuid03:26
KuKuNutto get your uuid03:26
guest33i dont know what the means?03:26
KuKuNutls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid03:27
SReidI finally installed MySQL instead of SQLite for Amarak, jesus if that doesn't make a difference! It should be sign posted a mile high all over the place.03:27
guest33ok03:28
guest33i see the lis03:28
guest33list03:28
KuKuNutget the proper UUID for the Kubuntu partition03:28
guest33ok03:29
guest33thats for initrd line correct?>03:29
guest33hang on03:30
guest33i mean first03:30
KuKuNutfor the linux line03:30
guest33i see where i nedd to put it03:30
guest33do i need the ro at the end?03:30
KuKuNutmake sure you get the correct kernel/img version too03:30
KuKuNutguest33: yes03:31
guest33k making sure03:31
guest33how do i find the kenal verison?03:32
guest33version*03:32
KuKuNutguest33: you said you can mount them03:32
guest33yes03:32
KuKuNutlook at /boot03:32
guest33k03:32
guest33k i have a problem the partiton sizes are the same lol03:33
KuKuNut??03:33
guest33ill have to look around03:33
guest33see what i have in them03:33
KuKuNutdev/sda1 and /dev/sda503:34
guest33k im in 10.10 for sure03:34
guest33initrd.img-2.6.35-23-generic03:35
guest33for 10.1003:35
KuKuNutok03:35
KuKuNutthe linux is vmlinuz-2.6.35-23-generic03:36
k0sneed some help with wine, i'm trying to run borderlands and taking error: "fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls.Resources" (6.0.0.0)03:36
k0s"03:36
guest33ku, thats for 10.1003:37
guest33in 10.10 i have different options for vmlinuz03:37
KuKuNut??03:37
guest33i have four different vmlinuz files03:38
guest33in 10.1003:38
guest33i do have 35 which you said03:38
KuKuNutthey shud match the initrd03:38
guest33ok03:38
guest33i think im ready03:39
KuKuNutgo for it03:39
guest33wait a minute03:39
guest33ill make sure on this03:39
guest33root (hd0,6)03:39
guest33and its on sda 603:39
guest33thats correct?03:39
guest33doesnt need to be hd90.5)03:40
KuKuNutfor grub it's 503:40
guest33k03:40
guest33im try it03:40
KuKuNutfor grub2 it's 603:40
guest33so if its on sda 603:40
guest33it needs to be hd(0,5) for grub one03:41
KuKuNutyes03:41
guest33correct?03:41
guest33makeing sure03:41
KuKuNutcount start at 003:41
guest33thanks03:41
KuKuNutand when you are in Kubuntu, let Kubuntu the master03:42
KuKuNutupdate-grub and then grub-install /dev/sda03:43
guest3310.04 worked03:48
guest33but 10.10 didnt03:48
guest33probably wronf setting03:48
guest33thanks getting 10.04 working for me03:49
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xomais anyone here?05:24
frogonwheels!ask05:24
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:24
dasKreechnope05:29
xomahow to start yakuake from opened folder in dolphin?05:29
dasKreechTry F4 and type yakuake ?05:30
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xomaf4.. thx) yakuake starts from root-folder, but f4... i like it)05:33
dasKreechmaybe yakuake .05:34
xomai dont know how "udobno" is in english... but f4 in dolphin is very very "udobno"))) i have used shift+f4 since today)05:37
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dasKreechxoma: :-)06:04
ubuntuhello people.06:49
susundbergGood morning06:50
ubuntugrub got wiped from disk. now booting in livecd.06:50
ubuntuhow to re-install grub.06:50
moetunes!grub206:53
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:53
user2!grub207:47
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:47
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bobby_hey guys.08:53
bobby_anybody around?08:53
valorie!ask | bobby_08:54
ubottubobby_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:54
mfraz74Is anyone else having problems launching programs  from the panel unless widgets are locked in KDE 4.6?08:54
bobby_kubuntu/windows install. grub overwritten. restored. grub fine but not using the grub.cfg. no menu. any body got any idea?08:55
valorie!grub08:55
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.08:55
valoriemfraz74: they are just discussing this in the kubuntu-devel channel08:56
bobby_lol, somebody didn't read the question. too search happy?08:56
valorieI read the question08:56
valorieand your answer is likely there08:56
bobby_I didn't the restore. the grub is restored.08:56
bobby_but grub itself is having issue reading the cfg file.08:56
valorieand there are two links there08:57
bobby_I have been looking at that and google hits for that. just thought somebody might actually have that experience with grub2.08:57
mfraz74valorie: can't see any discussion on there about that bug08:58
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valoriesorry, that was you asking the question! duh08:59
valorieso I guess not -- I haven't seen anyone else asking about this08:59
valoriehowever, you might ask in #kde, or #kde-devel09:00
valoriethey might now more09:00
valorieknow09:00
valoriegeez09:00
brukerhalla09:16
console_ircI need help with kubuntu 4.6 BETA2...09:32
console_ircafter the upgrade... I can't start kde because of the error message: command startkde not found09:33
mfraz74have you tried startx?09:35
console_ircyes... but startx tries to start startkde09:36
mfraz74oh09:36
mfraz74have you tried installing kubuntu-desktop?09:36
console_ircok... new error message :-)09:37
console_ircunable to open file /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap09:37
mfraz74Does this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-993362.html help?09:40
valorieconsole_irc: are you in 32-bit09:40
valorie?09:40
max_Anyone know of a keylogger (not exactly sure what to call it aside from that) that displays what is being pressed as it's being pressed? I'm working on a usb keyboard as a psudo-midi controller and have to test what pins on the encoder corespond to what keys. I tried just using a word document, but i need to be able to see modifiers and combinations as well.09:40
Ginbuntuconsole_irc: weird. I just upgraded to kde 4.6 beta 2. no problemm so far09:40
console_ircwell... I am conected via command line...09:40
mfraz74i've just upgraded to beta 2 and i've come across a few probs already09:40
console_ircopening along url is not so easy :-)09:40
kirthican any one tell me where to learn python in mumbai,india09:41
mfraz74console_irc: the solution mentioned is to rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache-<youruser>/kpc09:41
Ginbuntuconsole_irc: maybe try installing the package kxkb?09:41
valoriekirthi: I have some friends in mumbai09:41
valoriethere is a py group there09:41
valorie!india09:41
valorie!in09:42
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India09:42
valorieyou might ask in there ^^^09:42
kirthi@valorie--can u guide me to them09:42
mfraz74k3b won't run, can't seem to logout and icons can't be clicked if widgets are unlocked09:42
valoriejust click on that IRC link, in most clients09:42
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console_ircthere is no package kxkb...09:43
console_ircproblem solved...09:50
console_ircthe system upgrade has removed kdebase-workspace-bin09:50
HazamonzoHey folks. Im trying to run a bash script that loads a java app.. surely running the script from the directory (./myScript) is the same as from another directory (sh /home/user/myscript.sh). Reason i as is because my java app is throwing classnotfound exceptions when i use the latter method..09:54
cuzntHazanozo as long as the directory is in your PATH10:21
Morphohello everybody10:25
Morphoi need assistance about a major hardware acceleration issuein 10.1010:26
MorphoAnyone got a couple of minutes? maybe you folks can help me in a snap.10:28
moetunes!anyone10:29
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:29
shahanI am having problem on Shutdown the PC10:36
shahanhttp://www.chobimohol.com/image-4372_4D00AFEA.jpg10:36
Morphohello im back.10:36
Morphoi have serious hardware acceleration issues.10:37
Morphoi am using the latest kubunt 10.1010:37
Morphoall packages updated10:37
shahanI am now unable to shutdown my PC10:37
Morphomy graphic board is10:37
Morpho a GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 onboard10:37
shahanI am to depened on konsole for this10:37
shahansudo halt10:37
shahanbut I need graphical solution10:38
Morphoand 3d performance is practiclly zero10:38
Morphoglxinfo says that direct rendering is ON10:38
Morphomy system is 64 bit athlon x210:39
Morpho4 gb ram10:39
Morphoon asrock logic board10:39
Morphoan suddenl 3d applications started to run jerky10:39
Morphoto the point i cannot even use google earth, which is needed10:40
Morphoi attempted to fall back to previos kernels10:40
Morphoand enabled nvidia drivers other than th recommended version10:40
Morphobut it was of no help.10:40
Morphonaturally desktop effects cannot be used, but tghat's not crucial.10:41
Morphothis is degrading overall performance.10:41
Morphoplease hlp me before i trasjh the whole shack and revert to debian.10:41
Morphoalright, goodbye.10:49
valoriemorpho, I think there is some weird bug10:49
Morphohi10:49
valoriebecause you are the second person to report this10:49
valoriein a week10:49
Morphoi'm rather prone to believe that.10:49
valoriehowever, it isn't common10:50
Morphoonly i cannot figure out where its lying10:50
valorieagain, 2 in a week10:50
valoriedid you do recent updates?10:50
Morphoi attempted previous kenels and drivers, no success10:50
Morphoyes, i applied ALL the updates... my bad !10:50
valorieI'm assuming it's a KDE thing, and not a kernel thing10:50
valoriesince you CAN shut down10:50
Morphoyes10:51
valorieyour menu is just defective10:51
Morphono prob.10:51
Morphohey hey, hold on10:51
Morphoyoure wrong10:51
valorielol10:51
valoriei'd be happy to be wrong10:51
Morphoi dont have issues shutting down my pc10:51
Morphoi have 3d acceleration issues10:51
Morphoshahan has that problem10:51
valoriewell, your menu is weird10:52
Morphovalorie, i am reporting a totally different problem.10:52
metataggMorpho: u tried to apply a nvidia-driver?10:52
Morphoyes they are active10:52
valorieyou don't have restart and shutdown available to you10:52
valorieand you should10:52
Morphono no, i have.10:52
valorieok10:53
valorieyour desktop pic is wrong?10:53
metatagghmm... maybe you can get another driver from nvidia.org?10:53
Morphomy issue is just that nvidia drivers are present but 3d performance is zero10:53
Morphoi could try that10:53
metataggyea10:53
metataggi did when i had trouble be410:53
Morphoglxinfo tells that direct rendering is ON10:53
Morphobtw i use 64bit10:54
Morphoathlon x210:54
metatagghmm...10:54
Morphoand GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 onboard10:54
Morphoasrock mb , 4 gigs ram10:54
Morphoand it worked like wonders until yesterday10:54
Morphonow i cannot even use google earth, which i need10:54
metataggthat's REALLY weird.. :/10:55
moetunesI bet you got a new kernel and didn't rebuild the driver for the vid card10:55
Morphoso i fired a 3d game to test things and it was so slow i had problems reaching for the exit button with the cursor10:55
Morphoit is possible10:55
Morphowhat should i do?10:56
Morphoi tried booting an older kernel10:56
metatagghmm10:56
Morphobut even older kernels were the same10:56
metatagghttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-260.19.21-driver.html10:57
metataggthere10:57
metataggid try it and follow instructions :)10:57
Morphoonce i was accustomed to do things like building the nvidia drivers... i'go for that10:57
metataggbut i'm no expert10:57
Morphowell years ago i did such things like rebuilding tailored kernels and inserting nvidia modules...10:58
Morphoi thought it was the past...10:58
Morphoi think i need to get my hands dirty again lol10:58
Morphoi'll try that and then report... thanks for the efforts pal10:59
moetunesif you want to use non opensource you'll ahve to10:59
metatagghmm.. i've only done it once, but i'm on your side. Don't think you should have to do it the hard way! :(10:59
metataggMorpho: good luck :)10:59
Morphojust now that i installed a wonderful 22' LED monitor ... *sigh*11:00
Morphothnks4 now11:00
Sycvoi11:14
susundberghey11:20
susundberghow do i create new launcher (for local script) in kickoff ?11:20
susundbergi think i red somewhere that i could drag'n'drop the script file there but no luck so far ..11:21
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pm2Is anyone familiar with nomachine's nxserver?  I'm trying to run it on kubuntu.  I can connect ok, but no matter what username I use to connect the session always runs as the "nx" user.  Is there a way to connect that?12:41
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alvinGood stuff, NX14:55
alvinI think it's normal that it runs as the NX user14:56
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lydiahello, I cannot add printer to my newly installed kubuntu 10.10, the problem is after I click "add new printer", it let me define a new "printer class", then give me an empty list15:38
plan_richi would try to add your printa via the webbrowser. type 'localhost:631' and you get a interface to manage your browser... i had several times problems when i tried to add my printer via the standart ubuntu printer menu15:41
plan_richalso a sudo service cups restart is recommended if you screwed something :D15:41
plan_rich*to manage your printer15:42
lydiaplan_rich: this is a new installation, I did nothing, now just trying to upgrade system using aptituee15:44
lydiaI wonder if cups is installed or not. but anyway the printer applet is there15:44
plan_richkk i assume you plugged your printer15:45
plan_richwhich one is it btw?15:45
lydiayes, it is pluged in15:45
plan_richan switched on15:45
lydiait is a brother hl204515:45
lydiamodel of the printer is irrelevant at the moment, because there is no options to choose printer models at all15:46
plan_richcups is installed by default15:46
plan_richsudo service cups restart15:46
plan_richdoes it restart properly?15:46
sobczykis there a way to change finame encoding somehow?15:47
sobczykfilename15:47
lydiaplan_rich: localhost631 seems working, thanks15:48
plan_richconvmv -f ENCODING -t ENCODING filename15:48
plan_richslifugus: try command above15:48
plan_richif its not installed try sudo apt-get install convmv15:49
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lydiaanother problem is that the sound card does not work, although hardware seems correctly identified in KInfoCenter15:56
plan_richlydia: sound can be a real pain in ubuntu, i would try to modfiy some settings in your audio-properties and choose the real sources + output devices16:01
plan_richotherwise i would search for your specific card in the ubuntuusers forum16:02
realslixhi I got a question for virtualbox - as windows host I used a loopback adapter to connect to ubuntu guest server - how can I do that at ubuntu host? thx16:38
olskolircask in #virtualbox realslix16:45
realslixolskolirc, thx I do at moment16:46
freinhardhi!17:12
freinhardis there any generic gui database client? sqlite would be cool, mysql in addition really nice and postgresql pretty awesome :)17:13
EvilRoeyhello all17:19
EvilRoeyhey what's this latest 4.5.80 business, is it the beta2 of 4.6?17:19
d_edfreinhard: you can try tora17:20
yofelEvilRoey: 4.5.85 was published yesterday17:21
EvilRoeyaye, I meant 4.5.85 rather, my bad ;)17:21
yofel85 is beta217:21
EvilRoeyIs there a list (besides /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.gz) of changes for this release?17:21
EvilRoeyyofel, aye thanks17:22
yofelEvilRoey: you'll have to search the KDE pages for that, the package changelogs only contain packaging related changes17:22
yofelbut I didn't see much of a changelog on the 4.5.85 release page :/17:23
EvilRoeyahh ok17:23
EvilRoeyoh and I did mean chagnes to the pacakging17:23
EvilRoey*packaging17:23
EvilRoeyfor instance, I had this problem with the 4.5.80 debs where my keyboard settings were not respected17:23
EvilRoey(by applications)17:23
EvilRoey(keyboard settings have 100% of my respect)17:24
yofelwhich settings? keyboard layout switching (by systray, not hotkeys) works fine here in beta217:25
EvilRoeyok17:25
EvilRoeyI am just now upgrading from 4.5.80 to 4.5.8517:25
EvilRoeyso we'll see once I get home if that changes17:25
yofeland the systray context menu finally got a 'configure...' entry!! *sigh*17:25
EvilRoeyyofel, but yeah, with the 4.5.80 packages, I did not see that these changes got applied:  changing the layout shift char to "both shifts together"; making Capslock an additional Control; shift-numpad selects, as in Windows; and the repeat delay.17:26
EvilRoeyyofel, even though I had them set that way in Keyboard Settings17:27
yofelhm, never touched the advanced settings, let's see..17:29
peteykwhen I click on the kde start menu, the menu appears on the top part of the screen. The same behavior is seen with the clock, volume control. Anyone know how I can change this back, so that the menu pops up on the bottom part of the screen?17:30
yofelhm, why do we have 'keys to change layout' twice o.O? Once on the layouts page and once in the advanced options...17:30
yofelpeteyk: hm, it should appear from wherever the panel is, so here it starts at the top, since my panel is at the top17:31
EvilRoey<yofel> and the systray context menu finally got a 'configure...' entry!! *sigh*17:33
EvilRoeysweet17:33
EvilRoeyyofel: do you suppose Activities wiill get actively used?17:33
yofelI wanted that for ages :P17:33
yofelEvilRoey: not sure, I heard there were changes, didn't look at them yet17:33
peteykyeah, my panel is on the buttom - everything was fine until yesterday17:34
peteykI've taken a look around for panel options, but haven't seen anything specific to window placement17:34
EvilRoeyyofel:  if I right-click on the tray now (4.5.80), I get a context menu with an entry 'Properties'; this is not what you wanted?17:35
yofelEvilRoey: I meant the layout switcher context menu17:35
yofelsystray itself was always configurable17:36
EvilRoeyokay17:36
EvilRoeythen what was not?17:36
yofelEvilRoey: when opening the context menu of the layout switcher you could only select the language, when wanting to change a setting you had to go over systemsettings17:39
EvilRoeyah, right17:39
EvilRoeythat did bother me too17:39
EvilRoeyalso the way windows sl‪ide in the incorrect direction if you have virtual desktops arranged in  two-rows of two columns and try to go from (1,1) to (2,1) or from (2,1) to (1,1)  (with 1,1 at the top left)17:40
mrcreativitywhy to the fonts on my kubuntu installation look funny17:51
mrcreativityas compared to fedora kde17:51
mrcreativityanyone/17:53
DiogenesWservus17:53
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nacho_Buenas18:06
antoineam I the only one to have a problem with adobe flash verion 10 ???18:09
antoineI cant read youtube video anymore now18:09
xelisterhelp18:21
xelistermy ubuntu got gayified18:21
xelistersuddenly some damn KDE sounds turned on, and with question dialog box and certain other operations I have a unwanted noise playing... how to disable ths18:22
olskolircis there a way that i can slide my own graphic behind one of these clear panels?18:28
olskolirci hate these panels they are boring and offer no imagination18:29
olskolirci want to make my own 3D tubes18:29
olskolircmany colors18:29
olskolirclook in system settings - notifications xelister18:31
olskolirci disabled all my kde theme sounds in there.  There are also other programs with sounds you can click to find the noise and uncheck the flag that makes it pop up xelister18:31
bobbyhey guys18:35
chiiiiizhello18:37
chiiiiizI have a strange problem with my Kubuntu  for a few days18:38
chiiiiiz s later, the login music sounds18:39
chiiiiizIt used to be quite quick to start. Now, when I log in, the splash screen takes very long to disapear, and my screen goes black... Only Yakuake shows on the black... then18:39
chiiiiizs later, the login music sounds18:39
FloodBotK1chiiiiiz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:39
chiiiiizsorry for the flood... I won't do it again18:39
chiiiiizI must add that my desktop does not appear, nor the plasma bar... the plasma bar only appears after 2 mn!!18:40
chiiiiizI can start apps, but everything is very long...18:40
chiiiiizcan Nepomuk be the reasdon for that? I have some error message regarding Nepomuk/akonadi when starting Kontact18:41
DiogenesVgute nacht18:42
chiiiiizhallo18:49
yofelchiiiiiz: check if you have any errors in ~/.xsession-errors that could be related, not sure what could cause that18:51
chiiiiizyofel: http://pastebin.com/mHVvbMKj18:55
chiiiiizisee a lot of things, mentioning akonadi, mysqld... but I do not catch a clue...18:56
chiiiiizI also have (maybe it has no connecttion with my problem) an error message when starting Kontact regarding Nepomuk and D-bus...18:57
chiiiiizI see in the xsession-error a problem with D-Bus and Kontact...18:59
chiiiiizeverything leads to D-Bus it seems18:59
Bobbixi can't place on the right side the clock, the notification area and the show desktop icon19:12
Alarmwhat is the application that kubuntu uses for updating ?19:12
Alarmi try to load it from console but i cant remember the app name19:13
Bobbixevery time i place on the right the element return on the left side19:13
rorkBobbix: stupid question I know but have you tried moving the clock to the left side of the notifications area?19:16
rorkAlarm: kpackagekit19:16
Alarmok, that was it19:16
Alarmthanks ;)19:16
rorkyou're welcome19:16
Bobbixrork: i've to move on the right side... every element place by default ob the left side19:16
Bobbixkde 4.419:16
rorkBobbix: Yes but if you want to move the notifications are to the right of the clock you can either move it there OR move the clock left of the notifications area.19:20
Bobbixrork: no you don't have understand.. i have now every icon on the left with the right area clean19:24
Bobbixif i try do place some icon on the right side it return on the left side19:24
Bobbixi don't have any idea how to place now this icons on the right side19:25
rorkBobbix: can you make a screenshot showing the panel and "panel settings"?19:25
rork!paste19:25
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:25
rork!screenshot19:26
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.19:26
EvilRoeyhey when I hit PrintScr nothing happens19:27
Bobbixrork: why it's so difficult ?19:28
rorkBobbix: I don't know, it shouldn't be, as said it work fine here19:29
Bobbixthe tinyurl site don't work19:30
Bobbixrork: here the screenshot19:32
Bobbixhttp://imagebin.org/12713619:32
Bobbixcan you see now?19:32
rorkEvilRoey: you can set it in System Settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Global Hotkeys, Select khotkeys as component, printscreen option.19:32
EvilRoeyahhhh so I have to set it first19:33
EvilRoeyok19:33
EvilRoeythat would come in real handy19:33
EvilRoeythanks19:33
Bobbixrork: have you seen?19:35
rorkBobbix: yes, sec, gotta fix my own panel19:36
Bobbixrork: have you reproduced the problem on your panel?19:39
rorkBobbix: I manage to get all my widgets on the left but I can still move them around freely19:40
Bobbixok... i've the same problem but they are on the left now and i can't place them on the right again19:40
rorkOh, now I can't I can change the order but they stay at the left19:40
Bobbixah ok19:41
rorkyou can add a spacer between them19:41
Bobbixa spacer? it's useful?19:41
Bobbixrork: i thing you are right... pheraps this is the right solution19:43
dualpentAfter upgrade, I'm having the dreaded stuck after "battery check... [OK]".   I dropped the nvidia driver, when with noveau and I can get x to start.  Question: how to I diagnose the hang?   and  How can I manually start KDE?   it says kdestart is not installed (is it called something else now?)  Kubuntu 10.4 + upgrade (10.10?)19:43
Bobbixrork: but using the spacer now i can't see running applications on the panel?! why?19:44
rorkBobbix: you mean the system tray? Are they hidden? Or do you mean the classic menubar, that's a widget called "Task manager"19:46
Bobbixrork: whait a minute pheraps i've found the solution... be pacient19:47
rorkBobbix: no problem I'm currently startled with the possibilities of breaking my panel :P19:47
Bobbixit's sufficient that you remove the process manager... that's all i've found it!!19:49
Bobbixremoving the process manager on the panel all teh icons go to the left (it's normal)19:49
rorkdualpent: you can manually start kde with 'startx', I don't know how to diagnose it but start with the system logs: dmesg19:49
Bobbixplacing newly this element every places fine19:49
Bobbixrork: i hope this can help others... have you read rork ?19:50
rorkBobbix: yes, but the first time I tried I could move the other widgets around :S19:51
Bobbixit's becouse there is an element not visibile if you don't have active applications!19:51
BobbixIt's the process manager thet say you wath applicatins are active19:52
dualpentrork: thanks.  after it hangs, I ctrl-alt-f1 and type startx and it starts a generic x shell.  No KDM19:52
Bobbixi don't know how but moving on the panel i've removed it and oll the icons oh the right have automatically migrated on the left side.19:52
Bobbixnow placing again the application manager all works fine thank!!19:53
rorkBobbix: you're welcome19:53
dualpentBTW, the only thing in dmesg was something about not being able to find IPV6 router19:54
rorkdualpent: ~/.xsession-errors is another XOrg log19:56
dualpentProblem is this hardware - all odd-ball.   An older IBM dual Xeon wtih SCSI drives and Quadro video card.19:56
rorkwhich nvidia driver did you use?19:57
skaftihei19:57
rorkhei yourself19:57
skaftiEspecially rork19:57
skafti:)19:57
rork^^19:58
dualpentI had the 173 (I think) and then removed it because there were reports that it had issues with new kernel.19:58
dualpentNow I'm using the open source one neaveau (sp?)19:58
skaftiwell got little peace from the children so thought mabe i could work little on my pc19:58
skaftiis there a better way of cleansing a drive other the using dolphin ?19:59
skaftinot formatting19:59
dualpentI'm eyeing these two other computers (personal servers) that are running dual opteron but I think the power supply is week.  Just need a compiling platform19:59
skaftiit seems that if i "del" in dolphin it takes forever20:00
rorkdualpent: did you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? I think nvidia drivers still create it20:00
dualpentI had to delete xorg.conf because it was looking for nvidia drivers.  That's how I got x to start20:01
rorkskafti: I've had issues (re)moving files in dolphin, the fastest way is using the commandline `rm --help` , any other filemanager (including konquor) should be up to the job20:01
skaftik20:02
dualpentThis all started because at work I didn't have the proxy configure correctly.  So the upgrade failed.  I'm at home now, no proxy20:02
dualpentI think I'm just going to re-install20:02
rorkdualpent: have you tried removing the nvidia drivers completely?20:03
kubuntunoobHello. I cannot use hdmi on a dell newly installed with kubuntu 10.4 how can i make this feature to work?20:04
rorkdualpent: `apt-get purge nvidia-glx-173`20:04
dualpentI removed them via apt-get.   Like I said, xinit works.  Just drops into generic x-windows (not even a menu)20:04
dualpentI did apt-get purge nvida*20:04
dualpentthen apt-get install neaveau*,   then ap-get install xorg-.....neaveau (to the best of recollection)20:05
rorkdualpent: sounds about right20:06
rorkdualpent: no apt messages about a broken install? e.g. `apt-get check`20:07
dualpentSo with google, everyone seems to think its a videa card issue (the next step being installing video drivers).  I can't find out how anyone came to that conlusion though.    I figured if I can get x to start, that would prove someting.   Maybe not.20:07
dualpentBTW, downloading kubuntu 10.10 at 3100 KB/s  nice mirror.20:08
skaftiwhat is the drive names like in  dos i use c:/ im trying qonquor ?20:08
rorkwithout 3d graphics support I'd stick with 10.04 until it's fixed20:08
dualpentis there an easy way to revert to 10.04?20:09
rorkskafti: mounted devices are listed in /media konqueror doesn't seem to have an option to find/mount unmounted media20:12
rorkdualpent: it seems to be impossible to downgrade, reinstall is your only option there20:14
dualpentOK.  Thanks for the help.  Truely appriiated.20:14
dualpentgot to get something to eat...20:15
rorkyou're welcome, too bad it couldn't be fixed (yet)20:15
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skaftiwhat do you mean by /media konquror ?20:30
skafti(blush)20:31
skaftiTime to give back rork push shift and delete on the file... and its gone20:41
skaftidolphin20:41
oysterhi all. I'm having troubles with playing urbanterror. The game turns to black screen and freezes when a IM popup appears. With Option "OpenGLOverlay" "true" it's full screen of artefacts and random lags of that kind too. I'm using fglx on ati hd3400. Is there a fix for this?20:44
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rugI am trying to lock down a 10.10 machine into kiosk mode.  I am trying to follow the instructions I found here: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction   but I can't find the config files it describes.    What/where is the equivilent file to ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc ?20:55
moetunestry in .local rug20:56
moetunesmaybe20:56
rugkdesktoprc doesn't exist on the PC20:58
BajK_why doesnt nvidia-settings appear in systemsettings?21:00
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moetunesrug:  that must be an old howto then21:05
rugmoetunes: no date on the page!  =)21:05
moetunesI saw that too21:06
albertohl21:08
vyrgozunqkguys help me with this knetwork manager... and this DUN connection... how to make it work, i'm trying to connect thru my nokia N95... in gnome is peace of cake... but in KDE...21:15
vyrgozunqkmobile broadband in kde stays grayed out...21:15
vyrgozunqki have rfcomm cconfigured21:16
esmirlinis there any dock bar for kde (not using compiz i mean)?21:43
esmirlin?21:47
esmirlinis there any dock bar for kde (not using compiz i mean)?21:47
moetunesyep there's plenty of 'em21:47
esmirlinmoetunes: i used to use docky on gnome but no idea for kde :S21:55
harleenhi21:55
moetunesesmirlin:  second google return   http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=51207&start=021:56
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Roeyhaiil22:39
Roey*hai.22:39
rorkhi22:42
RoeyRiddell:  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25938722:51
ubottuKDE bug 259387 in kcm_keyboard "apps don't respect System Settings keyboard configurations (PPA packages)" [Normal,Unconfirmed]22:51
Roeyhey diego22:53
RiddellRoey: sounds like an upstream bug22:59
Roeyok23:00
Roeyhow about this one:  among the icons on my Panel, only the K icon is clickable.  The rest highlight on mouseover but are unresponsive when I click on them.;23:00
Roeythe desktop pager works fine23:00
Roeyjust the app icons don't work23:00
RoeyRiddell:  and that's as of 4.5.8523:01
RiddellRoey: we haven't added any new distro patches, if you're running maverick and something has broken when you upgraded kde packages it's almost certainly a kde issue23:02
Ginbuntukde 4.6 beta 2 is still laggy23:05
RoeyRiddell:  so these two issues are upstream then23:07
Roey?23:07
RoeyGinbuntu:  got that right :)23:07
GinbuntuI don't understand what you mean23:08
serardhello23:13
serardI've just installed compiz, launched compiz --replace; it works fine. How do I make it to launch at every reboot ? Another question, I don't see the window bars (with the buttons to minimize, maximize, close), how can I make them reappear ?23:15
yofelserard: I don't know much about compiz-kde, but it's compiz job to provide the window border, to set compiz as default go to: systemsettings -> default applicatons -> Window manager23:24
serardyofel, thank you ! in the window manager, it proposes me to create a wrapper script, do you know where should I create it ?23:27
yofelnope, sorry23:28
serardokay, thank you23:29
serardokay it was simply put it in a $PATH registered folder23:33
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