[00:00] <Ginbuntu> seems my drive does not have TRIM support :-(
[00:05] <Ginbuntu> yofel: where do I see which bugs are fixed for kde 4.6?
[00:07] <yofel> not sure, I usually follow those that affect me directly or just listen to the dev talk
[00:07] <eMyller> what happened to ssh-agent?
[00:07] <eMyller> my kde sessions aren't wrapped into ssh-agent anymore
[00:07] <eMyller> how can i re enable it?
[00:09] <yofel> eMyller: try this:
 piquadrat: type ssh-agent and the paste the output of this command in the konsole
 after that ssh-add should work
[00:09] <eMyller> yofel: it works but only for the current shell
[00:09] <eMyller> not globally to my session :\
[00:10] <Mamarok> yofel: I know, no need to tell me
[00:10] <yofel> Mamarok: oops, sorry
[00:10] <Mamarok> that's the same thing I told piquadrat earlier this morning
[00:10] <yofel> right, I just copy/pasted that and got that wrong :/
[00:10] <eMyller> yofel: nvm, it worked for the whole session! :D
[00:11] <eMyller> thanks guys
[00:12]  * eMyller wonders is a .sh with "eval ssh-agent" can do this automagically
[00:34] <Ginbuntu> when is kde 4.6 beta 2 coming to 10.10?
[00:41] <djustice> Ginbuntu: dunno.. it's been in chakra -testing for over a week tho i think..
[00:41] <djustice> lots of stuff borked.
[00:41] <djustice> the mime kcm. kdesu behavior changes..
[00:41] <djustice> most notably the mime kcm causing nonsense..
[00:41] <djustice> nepomuk doesn't like the upgrade either..
[00:42] <Ginbuntu> looks like I wil lhave to wait another week then
[00:42] <Torch> Ginbuntu: don't run pre-release KDE unless you want to help fix bugs
[00:42] <djustice> indeed.
[00:42] <djustice> might as well just kdesrc-build...
[00:43] <djustice> cuz *cough* debian/lintian/dh_foo sucks *cough*
[00:47] <Riddell> Ginbuntu: I'm publishing it now
[01:43] <Walzmyn> where do you find the setting to make windows snap to each other's edges?
[01:57] <guest33> i was wondering can grub boot up unubuntu?
[01:57] <guest33> ubuntu*
[01:57] <tsimpson> yes, it uses grub by default
[01:57] <guest33> grub 2
[01:58] <guest33> im not using grub 2
[01:59] <guest33> everything ive try hasnt worked
[01:59] <guest33> adding ubuntu to grub
[01:59] <guest33> i can kubuntu 10.10 and ubuntu 10.04
[01:59] <guest33> but doesnt load
[02:00] <guest33> i had to add 10.10 and 10.04 to grub
[02:00] <guest33> it was there before
[02:00] <guest33> wasnt*
[02:01] <tsimpson> grub2 is the default since karmic 9.10
[02:01] <guest33> im using opensuse 11.3 grub loader
[02:01] <tsimpson> both should be able to boot any version of ubuntu
[02:01] <guest33> i dont think so
[02:02] <guest33> i dont think grub one can
[02:02] <guest33> grub can
[02:02] <guest33> but opensuse 11.3 doesnt use grub 2
[02:02] <moetunes> any grub can boot any os if you get the entries right
[02:03] <guest33> hang on
[02:51] <guest33> i have a question
[02:52] <guest33> i hear crickets
[02:53] <Pici> the crickets await your question.
[02:53] <guest33> oh
[02:53] <guest33> well im trying to add ubuntu to grub
[02:53] <guest33> everything ive try failed
[02:54] <guest33> im not using grub 2
[02:54] <guest33> hang on let me pastbin what i have in the menu
[02:56] <guest33> are you there?
[02:56] <KuKuNut> we are here
[02:57] <Snowhog> We are every where
[02:57] <guest33> k
[02:57] <guest33> http://pastebin.com/3ve0AjUq
[02:57] <KuKuNut> guest33: what system has the grub?
[02:58] <KuKuNut> nver mind
[02:58] <guest33> opensuse 11.3
[02:58] <guest33> from i i saw
[02:59] <guest33> chainloader +1 should just work
[02:59] <guest33> but it doesnt
[02:59] <guest33> i saw a post where i can just use grub 2
[02:59] <guest33> but i want brub one lol
[02:59] <guest33> grub*
[02:59] <guest33> any idea?
[03:00] <moetunes> chainloader is for windows - don't use it for linux os's
[03:00] <andrewh192> ok
[03:00] <andrewh192> question
[03:00] <guest33> you kidding me right?
[03:00] <moetunes> nope
[03:00] <andrewh192> i am tryin to install amazonmp3.deb
[03:00] <KuKuNut> did you install grub in the Kubuntu?
[03:00] <guest33> probably
[03:00] <guest33> grub two
[03:00] <andrewh192> and when it opens in the package installer
[03:00] <andrewh192> it comes up with an error stating
[03:01] <andrewh192> Status: Error: Dependency is not satisifiable: libboost-filesystem1.34.1
[03:01] <guest33> hmm nope
[03:01] <andrewh192> so i installed the libboost from synaptic
[03:01] <guest33> i get a exe5 error on 10.04
[03:01] <andrewh192> and i still get the same error message after installing the missing file
[03:01] <KuKuNut> guest33: the chainload works bec it transfer the bootload to the Kubuntu
[03:02] <andrewh192> does anyone have any experience with installing amazon.com's mp3 download/install progrma on kubuntu 10.10
[03:02] <guest33> and, gtkpod
[03:02] <guest33> and also try banshee
[03:02] <andrewh192> you talking to me guest33
[03:02] <andrewh192> ?
[03:02] <guest33> yes
[03:03] <andrewh192> well, it says i need the their program in order to download the songs off their site
[03:03] <guest33> oh
[03:03] <andrewh192> and i can't seem to install their program
[03:03] <guest33> it is a exe?
[03:03] <guest33> see if wine can run it
[03:04] <guest33> appdb
[03:04] <guest33> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[03:04] <guest33> i am a noob
[03:04] <guest33> but i do know a little bit
[03:05] <andrewh192> well
[03:05] <andrewh192> i don't think that's the prob i am having
[03:05] <andrewh192> when i try to install the deb file, it says Status: Error: Dependency is not satisifiable: libboost-filesystem1.34.1
[03:05] <guest33> what are they wanting you to install?
[03:06] <guest33> oh
[03:06] <andrewh192> that libboost thing
[03:06] <andrewh192> which i have installed
[03:06] <andrewh192> and i still get the same message
[03:06] <guest33> the only thing i know what to do is try reinstalling libboost
[03:07] <guest33> well heres what im thinking
[03:08] <guest33> installing opensuse 11.3
[03:08] <guest33> the kubuntu 10.04
[03:08] <guest33> then using grub 2
[03:08] <guest33> thats what im thinking
[03:11] <KuKuNut> guest33: you can let Kubuntu takes care of the grub
[03:12] <guest33> well i can load kubuntu right now lol
[03:12] <guest33> either one of them
[03:12] <guest33> cant*
[03:12] <KuKuNut> guest33: don't follow you
[03:13] <guest33> well i can boot them up
[03:13] <guest33> anyway i know of
[03:13] <KuKuNut> guest33: ok..once you are in let kubuntu do it.  do update-grub and then grub-install to /dev/sda
[03:14] <guest33> how do i load kubuntu from start?
[03:14] <KuKuNut> guest33: I thought you can boot to Kubuntu?
[03:14] <guest33> nope lol
[03:15] <guest33> i can look around
[03:15] <guest33> in them from suse
[03:15] <guest33> i have 10.04 k and 10.10 installed
[03:15] <guest33> 10.10 kubuntu
[03:15] <KuKuNut> boot and mount are different things
[03:15] <guest33> i know
[03:15] <guest33> i can mount them
[03:16] <KuKuNut> so why did you say you can boot them?
[03:16] <guest33> i may of
[03:16] <guest33> typos
[03:16] <guest33> well ive been trying to add them to grub one
[03:17] <guest33> i read the entire grub manually still didnt get me anywhere
[03:18] <guest33> manual*
[03:18] <KuKuNut> you can add a kernel and initrd line
[03:18] <guest33> initrd?
[03:18] <guest33> i dont know what that is
[03:19] <guest33> im googling it
[03:19] <KuKuNut> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=c1b6e3d4-c3cc-4fd3-be92-d4e480177f54 ro
[03:19] <KuKuNut> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
[03:20] <guest33> i need to add that in menu.
[03:20] <KuKuNut> add ^^ the 2 lines like that.. remove the chainload line
[03:20] <guest33> loads the file system into memory
[03:20] <KuKuNut> you need to know the UUID
[03:21] <KuKuNut> and kernel initrd image
[03:21] <guest33> i dont know what is UUID
[03:22] <guest33> im on wiki
[03:22] <SReid> I'm getting REAL confused and annoyed with Kubuntu and smooth fonts :(
[03:22] <GabrielYYZ> anyone knows if the Qt SDK download on qt.nokia.com works with kubuntu 10.10? on the website says verified with 8.04/8.10 only
[03:23] <GabrielYYZ> guest33: UUID = universally unique identifier
[03:23] <k0s> hi there! can anybody help me with the wine?
[03:24] <guest33> gab, i read a little bit on wiki i still dont know what it is lol
[03:24] <guest33> the line after root i need kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=c1b6e3d4-c3cc-4fd3-be92-d4e480177f54 ro
[03:24] <SReid> Ok if anyones interested, I install Kubuntu Fresh, download updates, install nvidia restricted drivers...everythings perfect, the fonts look so good and crisp just like a Mac OSX or something, perfect.
[03:24] <guest33> correct?
[03:25] <SReid> then I restart a few times, and at some random time, the fonts just arn't the same, they arn't smooth etc
[03:25] <KuKuNut> guest33: yes
[03:25] <SReid> and i've changed all kinds of settings, and nothing makes it the way it was before >_<
[03:25] <guest33> next would be initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
[03:26] <KuKuNut> yes
[03:26] <user> k
[03:26] <guest33> k
[03:26] <KuKuNut> guest33: do a list of /dev/disk/by-uuid
[03:26] <KuKuNut> to get your uuid
[03:26] <guest33> i dont know what the means?
[03:27] <KuKuNut> ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid
[03:27] <SReid> I finally installed MySQL instead of SQLite for Amarak, jesus if that doesn't make a difference! It should be sign posted a mile high all over the place.
[03:28] <guest33> ok
[03:28] <guest33> i see the lis
[03:28] <guest33> list
[03:28] <KuKuNut> get the proper UUID for the Kubuntu partition
[03:29] <guest33> ok
[03:29] <guest33> thats for initrd line correct?>
[03:30] <guest33> hang on
[03:30] <guest33> i mean first
[03:30] <KuKuNut> for the linux line
[03:30] <guest33> i see where i nedd to put it
[03:30] <guest33> do i need the ro at the end?
[03:30] <KuKuNut> make sure you get the correct kernel/img version too
[03:31] <KuKuNut> guest33: yes
[03:31] <guest33> k making sure
[03:32] <guest33> how do i find the kenal verison?
[03:32] <guest33> version*
[03:32] <KuKuNut> guest33: you said you can mount them
[03:32] <guest33> yes
[03:32] <KuKuNut> look at /boot
[03:32] <guest33> k
[03:33] <guest33> k i have a problem the partiton sizes are the same lol
[03:33] <KuKuNut> ??
[03:33] <guest33> ill have to look around
[03:33] <guest33> see what i have in them
[03:34] <KuKuNut> dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5
[03:34] <guest33> k im in 10.10 for sure
[03:35] <guest33> initrd.img-2.6.35-23-generic
[03:35] <guest33> for 10.10
[03:35] <KuKuNut> ok
[03:36] <KuKuNut> the linux is vmlinuz-2.6.35-23-generic
[03:36] <k0s> need some help with wine, i'm trying to run borderlands and taking error: "fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls.Resources" (6.0.0.0)
[03:36] <k0s> "
[03:37] <guest33> ku, thats for 10.10
[03:37] <guest33> in 10.10 i have different options for vmlinuz
[03:37] <KuKuNut> ??
[03:38] <guest33> i have four different vmlinuz files
[03:38] <guest33> in 10.10
[03:38] <guest33> i do have 35 which you said
[03:38] <KuKuNut> they shud match the initrd
[03:38] <guest33> ok
[03:39] <guest33> i think im ready
[03:39] <KuKuNut> go for it
[03:39] <guest33> wait a minute
[03:39] <guest33> ill make sure on this
[03:39] <guest33> root (hd0,6)
[03:39] <guest33> and its on sda 6
[03:39] <guest33> thats correct?
[03:40] <guest33> doesnt need to be hd90.5)
[03:40] <KuKuNut> for grub it's 5
[03:40] <guest33> k
[03:40] <guest33> im try it
[03:40] <KuKuNut> for grub2 it's 6
[03:40] <guest33> so if its on sda 6
[03:41] <guest33> it needs to be hd(0,5) for grub one
[03:41] <KuKuNut> yes
[03:41] <guest33> correct?
[03:41] <guest33> makeing sure
[03:41] <KuKuNut> count start at 0
[03:41] <guest33> thanks
[03:42] <KuKuNut> and when you are in Kubuntu, let Kubuntu the master
[03:43] <KuKuNut> update-grub and then grub-install /dev/sda
[03:48] <guest33> 10.04 worked
[03:48] <guest33> but 10.10 didnt
[03:48] <guest33> probably wronf setting
[03:49] <guest33> thanks getting 10.04 working for me
[05:24] <xoma> is anyone here?
[05:24] <frogonwheels> !ask
[05:29] <dasKreech> nope
[05:29] <xoma> how to start yakuake from opened folder in dolphin?
[05:30] <dasKreech> Try F4 and type yakuake ?
[05:33] <xoma> f4.. thx) yakuake starts from root-folder, but f4... i like it)
[05:34] <dasKreech> maybe yakuake .
[05:37] <xoma> i dont know how "udobno" is in english... but f4 in dolphin is very very "udobno"))) i have used shift+f4 since today)
[06:04] <dasKreech> xoma: :-)
[06:49] <ubuntu> hello people.
[06:50] <susundberg> Good morning
[06:50] <ubuntu> grub got wiped from disk. now booting in livecd.
[06:50] <ubuntu> how to re-install grub.
[06:53] <moetunes> !grub2
[07:47] <user2> !grub2
[08:53] <bobby_> hey guys.
[08:53] <bobby_> anybody around?
[08:54] <valorie> !ask | bobby_
[08:54] <mfraz74> Is anyone else having problems launching programs  from the panel unless widgets are locked in KDE 4.6?
[08:55] <bobby_> kubuntu/windows install. grub overwritten. restored. grub fine but not using the grub.cfg. no menu. any body got any idea?
[08:55] <valorie> !grub
[08:56] <valorie> mfraz74: they are just discussing this in the kubuntu-devel channel
[08:56] <bobby_> lol, somebody didn't read the question. too search happy?
[08:56] <valorie> I read the question
[08:56] <valorie> and your answer is likely there
[08:56] <bobby_> I didn't the restore. the grub is restored.
[08:56] <bobby_> but grub itself is having issue reading the cfg file.
[08:57] <valorie> and there are two links there
[08:57] <bobby_> I have been looking at that and google hits for that. just thought somebody might actually have that experience with grub2.
[08:58] <mfraz74> valorie: can't see any discussion on there about that bug
[08:59] <valorie> sorry, that was you asking the question! duh
[08:59] <valorie> so I guess not -- I haven't seen anyone else asking about this
[09:00] <valorie> however, you might ask in #kde, or #kde-devel
[09:00] <valorie> they might now more
[09:00] <valorie> know
[09:00] <valorie> geez
[09:16] <bruker> halla
[09:32] <console_irc> I need help with kubuntu 4.6 BETA2...
[09:33] <console_irc> after the upgrade... I can't start kde because of the error message: command startkde not found
[09:35] <mfraz74> have you tried startx?
[09:36] <console_irc> yes... but startx tries to start startkde
[09:36] <mfraz74> oh
[09:36] <mfraz74> have you tried installing kubuntu-desktop?
[09:37] <console_irc> ok... new error message :-)
[09:37] <console_irc> unable to open file /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap
[09:40] <mfraz74> Does this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-993362.html help?
[09:40] <valorie> console_irc: are you in 32-bit
[09:40] <valorie> ?
[09:40] <max_> Anyone know of a keylogger (not exactly sure what to call it aside from that) that displays what is being pressed as it's being pressed? I'm working on a usb keyboard as a psudo-midi controller and have to test what pins on the encoder corespond to what keys. I tried just using a word document, but i need to be able to see modifiers and combinations as well.
[09:40] <Ginbuntu> console_irc: weird. I just upgraded to kde 4.6 beta 2. no problemm so far
[09:40] <console_irc> well... I am conected via command line...
[09:40] <mfraz74> i've just upgraded to beta 2 and i've come across a few probs already
[09:40] <console_irc> opening along url is not so easy :-)
[09:41] <kirthi> can any one tell me where to learn python in mumbai,india
[09:41] <mfraz74> console_irc: the solution mentioned is to rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache-<youruser>/kpc
[09:41] <Ginbuntu> console_irc: maybe try installing the package kxkb?
[09:41] <valorie> kirthi: I have some friends in mumbai
[09:41] <valorie> there is a py group there
[09:41] <valorie> !india
[09:42] <valorie> !in
[09:42] <valorie> you might ask in there ^^^
[09:42] <kirthi> @valorie--can u guide me to them
[09:42] <mfraz74> k3b won't run, can't seem to logout and icons can't be clicked if widgets are unlocked
[09:42] <valorie> just click on that IRC link, in most clients
[09:43] <console_irc> there is no package kxkb...
[09:50] <console_irc> problem solved...
[09:50] <console_irc> the system upgrade has removed kdebase-workspace-bin
[09:54] <Hazamonzo> Hey folks. Im trying to run a bash script that loads a java app.. surely running the script from the directory (./myScript) is the same as from another directory (sh /home/user/myscript.sh). Reason i as is because my java app is throwing classnotfound exceptions when i use the latter method..
[10:21] <cuznt> Hazanozo as long as the directory is in your PATH
[10:25] <Morpho> hello everybody
[10:26] <Morpho> i need assistance about a major hardware acceleration issuein 10.10
[10:28] <Morpho> Anyone got a couple of minutes? maybe you folks can help me in a snap.
[10:29] <moetunes> !anyone
[10:36] <shahan> I am having problem on Shutdown the PC
[10:36] <shahan> http://www.chobimohol.com/image-4372_4D00AFEA.jpg
[10:36] <Morpho> hello im back.
[10:37] <Morpho> i have serious hardware acceleration issues.
[10:37] <Morpho> i am using the latest kubunt 10.10
[10:37] <Morpho> all packages updated
[10:37] <shahan> I am now unable to shutdown my PC
[10:37] <Morpho> my graphic board is
[10:37] <Morpho>  a GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 onboard
[10:37] <shahan> I am to depened on konsole for this
[10:37] <shahan> sudo halt
[10:38] <shahan> but I need graphical solution
[10:38] <Morpho> and 3d performance is practiclly zero
[10:38] <Morpho> glxinfo says that direct rendering is ON
[10:39] <Morpho> my system is 64 bit athlon x2
[10:39] <Morpho> 4 gb ram
[10:39] <Morpho> on asrock logic board
[10:39] <Morpho> an suddenl 3d applications started to run jerky
[10:40] <Morpho> to the point i cannot even use google earth, which is needed
[10:40] <Morpho> i attempted to fall back to previos kernels
[10:40] <Morpho> and enabled nvidia drivers other than th recommended version
[10:40] <Morpho> but it was of no help.
[10:41] <Morpho> naturally desktop effects cannot be used, but tghat's not crucial.
[10:41] <Morpho> this is degrading overall performance.
[10:41] <Morpho> please hlp me before i trasjh the whole shack and revert to debian.
[10:49] <Morpho> alright, goodbye.
[10:49] <valorie> morpho, I think there is some weird bug
[10:49] <Morpho> hi
[10:49] <valorie> because you are the second person to report this
[10:49] <valorie> in a week
[10:49] <Morpho> i'm rather prone to believe that.
[10:50] <valorie> however, it isn't common
[10:50] <Morpho> only i cannot figure out where its lying
[10:50] <valorie> again, 2 in a week
[10:50] <valorie> did you do recent updates?
[10:50] <Morpho> i attempted previous kenels and drivers, no success
[10:50] <Morpho> yes, i applied ALL the updates... my bad !
[10:50] <valorie> I'm assuming it's a KDE thing, and not a kernel thing
[10:50] <valorie> since you CAN shut down
[10:51] <Morpho> yes
[10:51] <valorie> your menu is just defective
[10:51] <Morpho> no prob.
[10:51] <Morpho> hey hey, hold on
[10:51] <Morpho> youre wrong
[10:51] <valorie> lol
[10:51] <valorie> i'd be happy to be wrong
[10:51] <Morpho> i dont have issues shutting down my pc
[10:51] <Morpho> i have 3d acceleration issues
[10:51] <Morpho> shahan has that problem
[10:52] <valorie> well, your menu is weird
[10:52] <Morpho> valorie, i am reporting a totally different problem.
[10:52] <metatagg> Morpho: u tried to apply a nvidia-driver?
[10:52] <Morpho> yes they are active
[10:52] <valorie> you don't have restart and shutdown available to you
[10:52] <valorie> and you should
[10:52] <Morpho> no no, i have.
[10:53] <valorie> ok
[10:53] <valorie> your desktop pic is wrong?
[10:53] <metatagg> hmm... maybe you can get another driver from nvidia.org?
[10:53] <Morpho> my issue is just that nvidia drivers are present but 3d performance is zero
[10:53] <Morpho> i could try that
[10:53] <metatagg> yea
[10:53] <metatagg> i did when i had trouble be4
[10:53] <Morpho> glxinfo tells that direct rendering is ON
[10:54] <Morpho> btw i use 64bit
[10:54] <Morpho> athlon x2
[10:54] <metatagg> hmm...
[10:54] <Morpho> and GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 onboard
[10:54] <Morpho> asrock mb , 4 gigs ram
[10:54] <Morpho> and it worked like wonders until yesterday
[10:54] <Morpho> now i cannot even use google earth, which i need
[10:55] <metatagg> that's REALLY weird.. :/
[10:55] <moetunes> I bet you got a new kernel and didn't rebuild the driver for the vid card
[10:55] <Morpho> so i fired a 3d game to test things and it was so slow i had problems reaching for the exit button with the cursor
[10:55] <Morpho> it is possible
[10:56] <Morpho> what should i do?
[10:56] <Morpho> i tried booting an older kernel
[10:56] <metatagg> hmm
[10:56] <Morpho> but even older kernels were the same
[10:57] <metatagg> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-260.19.21-driver.html
[10:57] <metatagg> there
[10:57] <metatagg> id try it and follow instructions :)
[10:57] <Morpho> once i was accustomed to do things like building the nvidia drivers... i'go for that
[10:57] <metatagg> but i'm no expert
[10:58] <Morpho> well years ago i did such things like rebuilding tailored kernels and inserting nvidia modules...
[10:58] <Morpho> i thought it was the past...
[10:58] <Morpho> i think i need to get my hands dirty again lol
[10:59] <Morpho> i'll try that and then report... thanks for the efforts pal
[10:59] <moetunes> if you want to use non opensource you'll ahve to
[10:59] <metatagg> hmm.. i've only done it once, but i'm on your side. Don't think you should have to do it the hard way! :(
[10:59] <metatagg> Morpho: good luck :)
[11:00] <Morpho> just now that i installed a wonderful 22' LED monitor ... *sigh*
[11:00] <Morpho> thnks4 now
[11:14] <Sycv> oi
[11:20] <susundberg> hey
[11:20] <susundberg> how do i create new launcher (for local script) in kickoff ?
[11:21] <susundberg> i think i red somewhere that i could drag'n'drop the script file there but no luck so far ..
[12:41] <pm2> Is anyone familiar with nomachine's nxserver?  I'm trying to run it on kubuntu.  I can connect ok, but no matter what username I use to connect the session always runs as the "nx" user.  Is there a way to connect that?
[14:55] <alvin> Good stuff, NX
[14:56] <alvin> I think it's normal that it runs as the NX user
[15:38] <lydia> hello, I cannot add printer to my newly installed kubuntu 10.10, the problem is after I click "add new printer", it let me define a new "printer class", then give me an empty list
[15:41] <plan_rich> i would try to add your printa via the webbrowser. type 'localhost:631' and you get a interface to manage your browser... i had several times problems when i tried to add my printer via the standart ubuntu printer menu
[15:41] <plan_rich> also a sudo service cups restart is recommended if you screwed something :D
[15:42] <plan_rich> *to manage your printer
[15:44] <lydia> plan_rich: this is a new installation, I did nothing, now just trying to upgrade system using aptituee
[15:44] <lydia> I wonder if cups is installed or not. but anyway the printer applet is there
[15:45] <plan_rich> kk i assume you plugged your printer
[15:45] <plan_rich> which one is it btw?
[15:45] <lydia> yes, it is pluged in
[15:45] <plan_rich> an switched on
[15:45] <lydia> it is a brother hl2045
[15:46] <lydia> model of the printer is irrelevant at the moment, because there is no options to choose printer models at all
[15:46] <plan_rich> cups is installed by default
[15:46] <plan_rich> sudo service cups restart
[15:46] <plan_rich> does it restart properly?
[15:47] <sobczyk> is there a way to change finame encoding somehow?
[15:47] <sobczyk> filename
[15:48] <lydia> plan_rich: localhost631 seems working, thanks
[15:48] <plan_rich> convmv -f ENCODING -t ENCODING filename
[15:48] <plan_rich> slifugus: try command above
[15:49] <plan_rich> if its not installed try sudo apt-get install convmv
[15:56] <lydia> another problem is that the sound card does not work, although hardware seems correctly identified in KInfoCenter
[16:01] <plan_rich> lydia: sound can be a real pain in ubuntu, i would try to modfiy some settings in your audio-properties and choose the real sources + output devices
[16:02] <plan_rich> otherwise i would search for your specific card in the ubuntuusers forum
[16:38] <realslix> hi I got a question for virtualbox - as windows host I used a loopback adapter to connect to ubuntu guest server - how can I do that at ubuntu host? thx
[16:45] <olskolirc> ask in #virtualbox realslix
[16:46] <realslix> olskolirc, thx I do at moment
[17:12] <freinhard> hi!
[17:13] <freinhard> is there any generic gui database client? sqlite would be cool, mysql in addition really nice and postgresql pretty awesome :)
[17:19] <EvilRoey> hello all
[17:19] <EvilRoey> hey what's this latest 4.5.80 business, is it the beta2 of 4.6?
[17:20] <d_ed> freinhard: you can try tora
[17:21] <yofel> EvilRoey: 4.5.85 was published yesterday
[17:21] <EvilRoey> aye, I meant 4.5.85 rather, my bad ;)
[17:21] <yofel> 85 is beta2
[17:21] <EvilRoey> Is there a list (besides /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.gz) of changes for this release?
[17:22] <EvilRoey> yofel, aye thanks
[17:22] <yofel> EvilRoey: you'll have to search the KDE pages for that, the package changelogs only contain packaging related changes
[17:23] <yofel> but I didn't see much of a changelog on the 4.5.85 release page :/
[17:23] <EvilRoey> ahh ok
[17:23] <EvilRoey> oh and I did mean chagnes to the pacakging
[17:23] <EvilRoey> *packaging
[17:23] <EvilRoey> for instance, I had this problem with the 4.5.80 debs where my keyboard settings were not respected
[17:23] <EvilRoey> (by applications)
[17:24] <EvilRoey> (keyboard settings have 100% of my respect)
[17:25] <yofel> which settings? keyboard layout switching (by systray, not hotkeys) works fine here in beta2
[17:25] <EvilRoey> ok
[17:25] <EvilRoey> I am just now upgrading from 4.5.80 to 4.5.85
[17:25] <EvilRoey> so we'll see once I get home if that changes
[17:25] <yofel> and the systray context menu finally got a 'configure...' entry!! *sigh*
[17:26] <EvilRoey> yofel, but yeah, with the 4.5.80 packages, I did not see that these changes got applied:  changing the layout shift char to "both shifts together"; making Capslock an additional Control; shift-numpad selects, as in Windows; and the repeat delay.
[17:27] <EvilRoey> yofel, even though I had them set that way in Keyboard Settings
[17:29] <yofel> hm, never touched the advanced settings, let's see..
[17:30] <peteyk> when I click on the kde start menu, the menu appears on the top part of the screen. The same behavior is seen with the clock, volume control. Anyone know how I can change this back, so that the menu pops up on the bottom part of the screen?
[17:30] <yofel> hm, why do we have 'keys to change layout' twice o.O? Once on the layouts page and once in the advanced options...
[17:31] <yofel> peteyk: hm, it should appear from wherever the panel is, so here it starts at the top, since my panel is at the top
 and the systray context menu finally got a 'configure...' entry!! *sigh*
[17:33] <EvilRoey> sweet
[17:33] <EvilRoey> yofel: do you suppose Activities wiill get actively used?
[17:33] <yofel> I wanted that for ages :P
[17:33] <yofel> EvilRoey: not sure, I heard there were changes, didn't look at them yet
[17:34] <peteyk> yeah, my panel is on the buttom - everything was fine until yesterday
[17:34] <peteyk> I've taken a look around for panel options, but haven't seen anything specific to window placement
[17:35] <EvilRoey> yofel:  if I right-click on the tray now (4.5.80), I get a context menu with an entry 'Properties'; this is not what you wanted?
[17:35] <yofel> EvilRoey: I meant the layout switcher context menu
[17:36] <yofel> systray itself was always configurable
[17:36] <EvilRoey> okay
[17:36] <EvilRoey> then what was not?
[17:39] <yofel> EvilRoey: when opening the context menu of the layout switcher you could only select the language, when wanting to change a setting you had to go over systemsettings
[17:39] <EvilRoey> ah, right
[17:39] <EvilRoey> that did bother me too
[17:40] <EvilRoey> also the way windows sl‪ide in the incorrect direction if you have virtual desktops arranged in  two-rows of two columns and try to go from (1,1) to (2,1) or from (2,1) to (1,1)  (with 1,1 at the top left)
[17:51] <mrcreativity> why to the fonts on my kubuntu installation look funny
[17:51] <mrcreativity> as compared to fedora kde
[17:53] <mrcreativity> anyone/
[17:53] <DiogenesW> servus
[18:06] <nacho_> Buenas
[18:09] <antoine> am I the only one to have a problem with adobe flash verion 10 ???
[18:09] <antoine> I cant read youtube video anymore now
[18:21] <xelister> help
[18:21] <xelister> my ubuntu got gayified
[18:22] <xelister> suddenly some damn KDE sounds turned on, and with question dialog box and certain other operations I have a unwanted noise playing... how to disable ths
[18:28] <olskolirc> is there a way that i can slide my own graphic behind one of these clear panels?
[18:29] <olskolirc> i hate these panels they are boring and offer no imagination
[18:29] <olskolirc> i want to make my own 3D tubes
[18:29] <olskolirc> many colors
[18:31] <olskolirc> look in system settings - notifications xelister
[18:31] <olskolirc> i disabled all my kde theme sounds in there.  There are also other programs with sounds you can click to find the noise and uncheck the flag that makes it pop up xelister
[18:35] <bobby> hey guys
[18:37] <chiiiiiz> hello
[18:38] <chiiiiiz> I have a strange problem with my Kubuntu  for a few days
[18:39] <chiiiiiz>  s later, the login music sounds
[18:39] <chiiiiiz> It used to be quite quick to start. Now, when I log in, the splash screen takes very long to disapear, and my screen goes black... Only Yakuake shows on the black... then
[18:39] <chiiiiiz> s later, the login music sounds
[18:39] <FloodBotK1> chiiiiiz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <chiiiiiz> sorry for the flood... I won't do it again
[18:40] <chiiiiiz> I must add that my desktop does not appear, nor the plasma bar... the plasma bar only appears after 2 mn!!
[18:40] <chiiiiiz> I can start apps, but everything is very long...
[18:41] <chiiiiiz> can Nepomuk be the reasdon for that? I have some error message regarding Nepomuk/akonadi when starting Kontact
[18:42] <DiogenesV> gute nacht
[18:49] <chiiiiiz> hallo
[18:51] <yofel> chiiiiiz: check if you have any errors in ~/.xsession-errors that could be related, not sure what could cause that
[18:55] <chiiiiiz> yofel: http://pastebin.com/mHVvbMKj
[18:56] <chiiiiiz> isee a lot of things, mentioning akonadi, mysqld... but I do not catch a clue...
[18:57] <chiiiiiz> I also have (maybe it has no connecttion with my problem) an error message when starting Kontact regarding Nepomuk and D-bus...
[18:59] <chiiiiiz> I see in the xsession-error a problem with D-Bus and Kontact...
[18:59] <chiiiiiz> everything leads to D-Bus it seems
[19:12] <Bobbix> i can't place on the right side the clock, the notification area and the show desktop icon
[19:12] <Alarm> what is the application that kubuntu uses for updating ?
[19:13] <Alarm> i try to load it from console but i cant remember the app name
[19:13] <Bobbix> every time i place on the right the element return on the left side
[19:16] <rork> Bobbix: stupid question I know but have you tried moving the clock to the left side of the notifications area?
[19:16] <rork> Alarm: kpackagekit
[19:16] <Alarm> ok, that was it
[19:16] <Alarm> thanks ;)
[19:16] <rork> you're welcome
[19:16] <Bobbix> rork: i've to move on the right side... every element place by default ob the left side
[19:16] <Bobbix> kde 4.4
[19:20] <rork> Bobbix: Yes but if you want to move the notifications are to the right of the clock you can either move it there OR move the clock left of the notifications area.
[19:24] <Bobbix> rork: no you don't have understand.. i have now every icon on the left with the right area clean
[19:24] <Bobbix> if i try do place some icon on the right side it return on the left side
[19:25] <Bobbix> i don't have any idea how to place now this icons on the right side
[19:25] <rork> Bobbix: can you make a screenshot showing the panel and "panel settings"?
[19:25] <rork> !paste
[19:26] <rork> !screenshot
[19:27] <EvilRoey> hey when I hit PrintScr nothing happens
[19:28] <Bobbix> rork: why it's so difficult ?
[19:29] <rork> Bobbix: I don't know, it shouldn't be, as said it work fine here
[19:30] <Bobbix> the tinyurl site don't work
[19:32] <Bobbix> rork: here the screenshot
[19:32] <Bobbix> http://imagebin.org/127136
[19:32] <Bobbix> can you see now?
[19:32] <rork> EvilRoey: you can set it in System Settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Global Hotkeys, Select khotkeys as component, printscreen option.
[19:33] <EvilRoey> ahhhh so I have to set it first
[19:33] <EvilRoey> ok
[19:33] <EvilRoey> that would come in real handy
[19:33] <EvilRoey> thanks
[19:35] <Bobbix> rork: have you seen?
[19:36] <rork> Bobbix: yes, sec, gotta fix my own panel
[19:39] <Bobbix> rork: have you reproduced the problem on your panel?
[19:40] <rork> Bobbix: I manage to get all my widgets on the left but I can still move them around freely
[19:40] <Bobbix> ok... i've the same problem but they are on the left now and i can't place them on the right again
[19:40] <rork> Oh, now I can't I can change the order but they stay at the left
[19:41] <Bobbix> ah ok
[19:41] <rork> you can add a spacer between them
[19:41] <Bobbix> a spacer? it's useful?
[19:43] <Bobbix> rork: i thing you are right... pheraps this is the right solution
[19:43] <dualpent> After upgrade, I'm having the dreaded stuck after "battery check... [OK]".   I dropped the nvidia driver, when with noveau and I can get x to start.  Question: how to I diagnose the hang?   and  How can I manually start KDE?   it says kdestart is not installed (is it called something else now?)  Kubuntu 10.4 + upgrade (10.10?)
[19:44] <Bobbix> rork: but using the spacer now i can't see running applications on the panel?! why?
[19:46] <rork> Bobbix: you mean the system tray? Are they hidden? Or do you mean the classic menubar, that's a widget called "Task manager"
[19:47] <Bobbix> rork: whait a minute pheraps i've found the solution... be pacient
[19:47] <rork> Bobbix: no problem I'm currently startled with the possibilities of breaking my panel :P
[19:49] <Bobbix> it's sufficient that you remove the process manager... that's all i've found it!!
[19:49] <Bobbix> removing the process manager on the panel all teh icons go to the left (it's normal)
[19:49] <rork> dualpent: you can manually start kde with 'startx', I don't know how to diagnose it but start with the system logs: dmesg
[19:49] <Bobbix> placing newly this element every places fine
[19:50] <Bobbix> rork: i hope this can help others... have you read rork ?
[19:51] <rork> Bobbix: yes, but the first time I tried I could move the other widgets around :S
[19:51] <Bobbix> it's becouse there is an element not visibile if you don't have active applications!
[19:52] <Bobbix> It's the process manager thet say you wath applicatins are active
[19:52] <dualpent> rork: thanks.  after it hangs, I ctrl-alt-f1 and type startx and it starts a generic x shell.  No KDM
[19:52] <Bobbix> i don't know how but moving on the panel i've removed it and oll the icons oh the right have automatically migrated on the left side.
[19:53] <Bobbix> now placing again the application manager all works fine thank!!
[19:53] <rork> Bobbix: you're welcome
[19:54] <dualpent> BTW, the only thing in dmesg was something about not being able to find IPV6 router
[19:56] <rork> dualpent: ~/.xsession-errors is another XOrg log
[19:56] <dualpent> Problem is this hardware - all odd-ball.   An older IBM dual Xeon wtih SCSI drives and Quadro video card.
[19:57] <rork> which nvidia driver did you use?
[19:57] <skafti> hei
[19:57] <rork> hei yourself
[19:57] <skafti> Especially rork
[19:57] <skafti> :)
[19:58] <rork> ^^
[19:58] <dualpent> I had the 173 (I think) and then removed it because there were reports that it had issues with new kernel.
[19:58] <dualpent> Now I'm using the open source one neaveau (sp?)
[19:58] <skafti> well got little peace from the children so thought mabe i could work little on my pc
[19:59] <skafti> is there a better way of cleansing a drive other the using dolphin ?
[19:59] <skafti> not formatting
[19:59] <dualpent> I'm eyeing these two other computers (personal servers) that are running dual opteron but I think the power supply is week.  Just need a compiling platform
[20:00] <skafti> it seems that if i "del" in dolphin it takes forever
[20:00] <rork> dualpent: did you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? I think nvidia drivers still create it
[20:01] <dualpent> I had to delete xorg.conf because it was looking for nvidia drivers.  That's how I got x to start
[20:01] <rork> skafti: I've had issues (re)moving files in dolphin, the fastest way is using the commandline `rm --help` , any other filemanager (including konquor) should be up to the job
[20:02] <skafti> k
[20:02] <dualpent> This all started because at work I didn't have the proxy configure correctly.  So the upgrade failed.  I'm at home now, no proxy
[20:02] <dualpent> I think I'm just going to re-install
[20:03] <rork> dualpent: have you tried removing the nvidia drivers completely?
[20:04] <kubuntunoob> Hello. I cannot use hdmi on a dell newly installed with kubuntu 10.4 how can i make this feature to work?
[20:04] <rork> dualpent: `apt-get purge nvidia-glx-173`
[20:04] <dualpent> I removed them via apt-get.   Like I said, xinit works.  Just drops into generic x-windows (not even a menu)
[20:04] <dualpent> I did apt-get purge nvida*
[20:05] <dualpent> then apt-get install neaveau*,   then ap-get install xorg-.....neaveau (to the best of recollection)
[20:06] <rork> dualpent: sounds about right
[20:07] <rork> dualpent: no apt messages about a broken install? e.g. `apt-get check`
[20:07] <dualpent> So with google, everyone seems to think its a videa card issue (the next step being installing video drivers).  I can't find out how anyone came to that conlusion though.    I figured if I can get x to start, that would prove someting.   Maybe not.
[20:08] <dualpent> BTW, downloading kubuntu 10.10 at 3100 KB/s  nice mirror.
[20:08] <skafti> what is the drive names like in  dos i use c:/ im trying qonquor ?
[20:08] <rork> without 3d graphics support I'd stick with 10.04 until it's fixed
[20:09] <dualpent> is there an easy way to revert to 10.04?
[20:12] <rork> skafti: mounted devices are listed in /media konqueror doesn't seem to have an option to find/mount unmounted media
[20:14] <rork> dualpent: it seems to be impossible to downgrade, reinstall is your only option there
[20:14] <dualpent> OK.  Thanks for the help.  Truely appriiated.
[20:15] <dualpent> got to get something to eat...
[20:15] <rork> you're welcome, too bad it couldn't be fixed (yet)
[20:30] <skafti> what do you mean by /media konquror ?
[20:31] <skafti> (blush)
[20:41] <skafti> Time to give back rork push shift and delete on the file... and its gone
[20:41] <skafti> dolphin
[20:44] <oyster> hi all. I'm having troubles with playing urbanterror. The game turns to black screen and freezes when a IM popup appears. With Option "OpenGLOverlay" "true" it's full screen of artefacts and random lags of that kind too. I'm using fglx on ati hd3400. Is there a fix for this?
[20:55] <rug> I am trying to lock down a 10.10 machine into kiosk mode.  I am trying to follow the instructions I found here: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction   but I can't find the config files it describes.    What/where is the equivilent file to ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc ?
[20:56] <moetunes> try in .local rug
[20:56] <moetunes> maybe
[20:58] <rug> kdesktoprc doesn't exist on the PC
[21:00] <BajK_> why doesnt nvidia-settings appear in systemsettings?
[21:05] <moetunes> rug:  that must be an old howto then
[21:05] <rug> moetunes: no date on the page!  =)
[21:06] <moetunes> I saw that too
[21:08] <alberto> hl
[21:15] <vyrgozunqk> guys help me with this knetwork manager... and this DUN connection... how to make it work, i'm trying to connect thru my nokia N95... in gnome is peace of cake... but in KDE...
[21:15] <vyrgozunqk> mobile broadband in kde stays grayed out...
[21:16] <vyrgozunqk> i have rfcomm cconfigured
[21:43] <esmirlin> is there any dock bar for kde (not using compiz i mean)?
[21:47] <esmirlin> ?
[21:47] <esmirlin> is there any dock bar for kde (not using compiz i mean)?
[21:47] <moetunes> yep there's plenty of 'em
[21:55] <esmirlin> moetunes: i used to use docky on gnome but no idea for kde :S
[21:55] <harleen> hi
[21:56] <moetunes> esmirlin:  second google return   http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=51207&start=0
[22:39] <Roey> haiil
[22:39] <Roey> *hai.
[22:42] <rork> hi
[22:51] <Roey> Riddell:  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259387
[22:53] <Roey> hey diego
[22:59] <Riddell> Roey: sounds like an upstream bug
[23:00] <Roey> ok
[23:00] <Roey> how about this one:  among the icons on my Panel, only the K icon is clickable.  The rest highlight on mouseover but are unresponsive when I click on them.;
[23:00] <Roey> the desktop pager works fine
[23:00] <Roey> just the app icons don't work
[23:01] <Roey> Riddell:  and that's as of 4.5.85
[23:02] <Riddell> Roey: we haven't added any new distro patches, if you're running maverick and something has broken when you upgraded kde packages it's almost certainly a kde issue
[23:05] <Ginbuntu> kde 4.6 beta 2 is still laggy
[23:07] <Roey> Riddell:  so these two issues are upstream then
[23:07] <Roey> ?
[23:07] <Roey> Ginbuntu:  got that right :)
[23:08] <Ginbuntu> I don't understand what you mean
[23:13] <serard> hello
[23:15] <serard> I've just installed compiz, launched compiz --replace; it works fine. How do I make it to launch at every reboot ? Another question, I don't see the window bars (with the buttons to minimize, maximize, close), how can I make them reappear ?
[23:24] <yofel> serard: I don't know much about compiz-kde, but it's compiz job to provide the window border, to set compiz as default go to: systemsettings -> default applicatons -> Window manager
[23:27] <serard> yofel, thank you ! in the window manager, it proposes me to create a wrapper script, do you know where should I create it ?
[23:28] <yofel> nope, sorry
[23:29] <serard> okay, thank you
[23:33] <serard> okay it was simply put it in a $PATH registered folder