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=== DoctorMO is now known as doctormo
coz_howdy doody18:38
doctormothorwil: Hey, can I ask a favour? I would like a poster reviewed critically. I'm so far not happy with it but I think you might be able to offer some good advice.20:08
thorwildoctormo: sure20:09
doctormohttp://imagebin.ca/view/JpEU0f9C.html20:09
thorwildoctormo: what's the target medium and size?20:10
doctormoMedium: paper, wall hanging, size US double letter, aka silly size ;-)20:10
doctormoIt's actually called Ledger/Tabloid sized.20:11
doctormoBut I assume it could be reformed into A3 for other markets.20:11
thorwilit just looks like it would have to be fairly large to be readable20:12
thorwilit's too dense, crowded20:12
thorwilthe type dances way too much, especially as it looks like 3 distinct funky fonts are used?20:13
doctormothoughts on how to fix some of the issues? the main font is 18pt Ubuntu, the rest are funky I agree.20:14
thorwilnever use justified without hyphenation (you might get away with it on the web, but not in print)20:14
doctormoI think I've been critizied more in the past for my font selection than anything else, so I defer immediatly on the issue now.20:14
thorwiltry to use 2 fonts only20:14
thorwilshorten the text wherever you can20:15
thorwile.g., don't mention an example in text, if you have a list right next to it20:16
thorwilbrightness contrast between body text and background is a bit on the low side20:17
thorwiltry to establish sections with spacing alone (no bars for the titles)20:18
doctormoI'm thinking of posting the svg http://divajutta.com/doctormo/art/foss+creative-commons.svg to the mailing list while I recharge my artfulness. Do you think anyone there would be any good at nudging it in the right direction?\20:18
thorwildoctormo: except for rob oakes i'm not aware of anyone still on the list where i saw indication of layout skills20:20
thorwilusually also no indication of a lack thereof. simply not layout work :)20:21
doctormoI guess I'll have to come back to it myself, not all my layout work is this bad, I think I've just gotten a little tired of this one.20:22
doctormothorwil: I decided to be persistent, can you check i've incorporated all your good suggestions? http://imagebin.ca/view/EFZMHu.html20:59
thorwildoctormo: better, at now it can breathe. you really should look into the use of grids in layout21:00
thorwildoctormo: the result of half an hour (and i could invest several times that to get it really right): http://www.foopics.com/showfull/8dd687f66275d6fd8bb2e0cc565c208021:04
thorwilyou have to imagine text flowing around the bottom left image ;)21:05
doctormonice21:05
thorwildidn't care about the fonts, just cared about introducing a grid21:06
thorwili would consider to go with a single image. with this layout, in the top right21:07
thorwildoctormo: i noticed you didn't use flowed text. well, you should21:08
doctormoI thought I did21:08
thorwildoctormo: want the file, before i go and shut off the mind-eater?21:09
doctormoEmail it to me so I can see your grids, I think it will give me an idea of how you do things.21:09
thorwildone21:10
thorwilgood night! :)21:10
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