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hajourhai chilicuil00:02
fatharrahmanwhat is natty00:31
UndiFineDthe development version of the next ubuntu00:31
UndiFineDs/version/name/00:32
UndiFineDhttp://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=narwhal+song&aq=100:34
fatharrahmanif I clicked the button check in Update Manager ok? and the updates appear to me but I click the button install and nothing come what that mean?00:36
fatharrahmannatty seems  awesome00:38
fatharrahmannarwals ????00:40
aveilleuxfatharrahman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames00:40
fatharrahmanI understood it I meant by??? that is it going be named narwhals I mean the 11.0400:41
fatharrahmancool00:42
fatharrahmanif I clicked the button check in Update Manager ok? and the updates appear to me but I click the button install and nothing come what s that mean??00:43
fatharrahman?00:48
UndiFineDwell natty narhwhal is not ready for normal daily use yet00:53
UndiFineDpeople are testing it, but expect it to fail00:54
UndiFineDand those failures are good atm, it means we can find the faults00:55
fatharrahmanwill be ready by 11.04 ?00:55
UndiFineDyes, natty narhwal is 11.0400:55
fatharrahmanare Maverick Meerkat reported bugs gonna be fixed in natty00:56
fatharrahman?00:57
UndiFineDyes00:58
UndiFineDwell people try at least00:58
duanedesignhajour: still around?01:41
UndiFineDyes01:41
duanedesigni see. I got punged earlier to help a user.01:42
duanedesignpinged*01:42
hajouryes  duanedesign01:42
hajourit is resolved already sorry01:42
duanedesignI lost my internet for the last couple hours...01:42
duanedesign  /o\ noooo!01:43
duanedesigni had to actually read a book :)01:43
UndiFineDduanedesign, I explained hajour that when a starnger walks in here with a question, we need to react fast, often they leave in a minute01:44
UndiFineDso often she asks me, but sometimes another01:44
duanedesignthat great01:44
duanedesignyou are right UndiFineD , they do tend to not wait around01:44
UndiFineDso often I get a vocal signal01:46
UndiFineDsometimes hajour calls in for help from another who is around01:46
UndiFineDthat has gained us 2 new people yesterday01:48
UndiFineD<fatharrahman> and <rx007>01:48
fatharrahmanyes01:49
fatharrahmanwho called?01:50
UndiFineDhehe fatharrahman I talked with duanedesign about responsive support01:51
fatharrahmanany help for you UndiFineD? :)01:51
fatharrahmanI'll be like you one day :) helping people :) maybe years on no matter how long01:53
UndiFineDno no, anything you learn you can pass allong01:53
UndiFineDand at some point you can even help people on subject you know nothing of01:54
UndiFineDhajour, is my gf and sometimes spots new people i did not see, so she gives me a signal01:56
fatharrahmanthanx but i intend to learn basics and then pass a good content01:56
duanedesignhello fatharrahman01:57
fatharrahman started reading books learning terminal and pyhon (hello duanedesign my teacher) and searching solutions for simple Qs  for newbies in ubuntuforums ;)01:59
fatharrahmansorry for interruption  of UndiFineD talk I dont mean that02:02
UndiFineDoh no interruption at all I knew you were on, so I kinda expected it :)02:02
duanedesignfatharrahman: that sounds great02:06
fatharrahmanThanx02:08
fatharrahmanas a physician I am thinking of making a medical package in the future that could help doctors prepare for exams and be completely free in the future02:14
UndiFineDehm.. let see where the online Oreilly books are02:14
UndiFineDhttp://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/02:15
fatharrahmanhow to download Oreilly books as pdf format ? or are they online only?02:16
firewall_03what up02:18
UndiFineDhey firewall_0302:19
firewall_03anything exciting going on in here?02:19
UndiFineDfatharrahman, sometimes Oreilly makes books available themselves as pdf02:19
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firewall_03they been running ebook deal of the day lately, some pretty good titles for $15.9902:28
fatharrahmanat launchpad I went to : participate>Bugs to report a bug but there is no button for that only search box ??02:34
UndiFineDtime for bed.. 3.30 am02:35
firewall_03UndiFineD: gd night, I don't miss those days, but I did like getting off early02:36
UndiFineDI have to get up in 3 hours ;)02:36
fatharrahman5:36 am here gd night UnuFineD02:36
fatharrahmangd night UndiFineD02:38
fatharrahman?? site to report a bug not seen at my launchpad02:39
fatharrahmanoh I found it02:44
hajourfatharrahman, UndiFineD  is going to sleep.and i go to.:)good night fatharrahman02:45
fatharrahmangd night hajour you were very kind to me yesterday thanx again02:46
hajouryour welcome fatharrahman :)02:47
hajourbye :)02:47
fatharrahmanbye :)02:49
fatharrahmanduanedesign , firewall_03 , gd night02:59
firewall_03night03:00
karahi, could somebody help me restore the default Ubuntu GDM?04:24
Mohan_chmlkara, are you able to login?04:32
karayes04:33
karabut each time i have to type in my username and password04:34
karaand the appearance configuration window pops up04:35
Mohan_chmlhmmm!04:35
Mohan_chmlkara, type sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop04:36
Mohan_chmlin terminal04:36
Mohan_chmland you want Ubuntu to not to show you the login screen?04:36
karaokay, hold on please04:36
Mohan_chmlsure04:36
karaokay04:36
Mohan_chmland you want Ubuntu to not to show you the login screen?04:37
Mohan_chml?04:37
Mohan_chmlI mean you want it to automatically login to your account too?04:37
karaI just want it go back to default04:37
karado you want me to log out and then back in?04:38
Mohan_chmlI think you changed the theme of the login screen and you need default right?04:38
karaexactly, also to get rid of the appearance window that shows up04:39
Mohan_chmlnow appearance window will not pop up04:39
Mohan_chmljust log off and get back please04:39
karasure :)04:39
karabrb04:39
Mohan_chmland if you are okay, then no worries. or else04:39
Mohan_chmlyou have to use the appearance congif manager to set to default04:40
karahello again04:41
karathe popping window is gone :D04:41
Mohan_chml:)04:41
karabut I still hve to type in my username, password too :S04:42
Mohan_chmlhmmm then you have to change the theme back i think04:42
karaand there is a white bar at the bottom04:42
Mohan_chmllet me look for it04:42
Mohan_chmlkara, sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow04:44
karaokay, done04:45
Mohan_chmlthen log off and the appearance config will come. just choose other themes04:45
Mohan_chmlcome back and then do unlink command i said earlier ;)04:45
karai will :)04:46
Mohan_chml(;04:46
karacould you please type that command again? :$04:48
JoeMaverickSettsudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop04:48
Mohan_chmlhey JoeMaverickSett. ty for saving me. i am eating by hand :D04:49
karathanks Joe04:49
JoeMaverickSettno problem.04:49
Mohan_chmlkara, open up terminal and press up arrow04:49
Mohan_chmlit will show you the commands you typed earlier04:49
karaOH!04:50
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: enjoy dude. :D04:50
JoeMaverickSettkara: never mind that it will come eventually. :)04:50
Mohan_chmlkara, try getting CLI companion04:50
karaCLI?04:50
Mohan_chmlJoeMaverickSett, give its link to him04:51
JoeMaverickSettokie.04:51
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: .deb link?04:51
JoeMaverickSett:D04:51
Mohan_chmlyup04:52
JoeMaverickSettkara: download this program, it will help ya use the terminal http://launchpad.net/clicompanion/1.0/1.0rc2/+download/clicompanion_1.0-3.1_all.deb :)04:52
* JoeMaverickSett is downloading it for himself. :D04:52
karaI will log out again to check if it worked out well ;)04:54
Mohan_chmlit will work ;)04:54
karaAhh! still the white bar04:56
JoeMaverickSettkara: here is the wiki link on how to use CLI Conpanion effectively. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/clicompanion :)04:56
bodhizazenkara, http://linuxcommand.org/04:57
bodhizazen=)04:57
karathank you04:57
bodhizazenkara, learn to read the man pages04:57
bodhizazenThey seem difficult at first, but if you can read and understand them ...04:58
bodhizazenIn a terminal04:58
bodhizazenman grep04:58
bodhizazeninfo grep04:58
* Mohan_chml runs away, as the BOSS is here :D04:58
bodhizazenAnd if you install most, you can have your man pages in color04:58
bodhizazenin .bashrc add a line :04:59
bodhizazenpager='most'04:59
* JoeMaverickSett runs for his life! :P04:59
* kara thinks that CLI Companion is really useful05:03
JoeMaverickSettkara: it is. :D05:03
karathe login page's still not fixed, is there a way to bypass it?05:06
Mohan_chmlyou mean making it to not to ask user name and password>'05:06
karayep05:06
JoeMaverickSettSystem > Administration > Login Screen > Tick "Log in as <username>" ?05:08
JoeMaverickSettMohan_chml: ^ might that work?05:08
karaI tried that but it didn't work05:08
JoeMaverickSett:O05:08
Mohan_chmlthat should work05:09
bodhizazenkara, do you have an encrypted home directory ?05:14
karahonestly I don't know05:15
bodhizazenLOL05:16
bodhizazenWhen you installed Ubuntu, do you recall if you opted to encrypt home ?05:16
bodhizazenIf so, I do not think you can automatically log in05:16
karano I didn't, installing process went so smooth05:17
karanot to mention that I used to log in automatically05:17
karait all happened when I installed/uninstalled macbuntu I guess05:19
karahi, could somebody please help me mount my FAT32 drives?08:26
Mohan_chmlkara, is it not mounting when you hit the partition?08:31
karait used to, but not anymore08:31
karanow I get this message >>08:32
karaError mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:08:32
karamount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/DRV1_VOL108:32
geirhakara: Does it have an entry in /etc/fstab?08:34
Mohan_chmlgeirha, any partition table issues?08:34
kara/dev/sda1                                  /media/DRV1_VOL1  vfat  noauto                                                                        0  008:34
geirhakara: Change noauto to noauto,users08:35
geirhaThat should allow other users than root to mount it08:36
karaokay, hang on please08:36
karacool! it works :D08:38
geirha:)08:38
karathank you geirha08:38
karaand thanks to you Mohan_chml, I owe you that ;)08:38
geirhanp :)08:38
karaone more question if you don't mind08:43
karain <Users Settings> the default account type should be set to "Administrator"?08:43
Mohan_chmlkara, shoot08:43
karathere is only one user.. me08:44
Mohan_chmlone account should be an admin. It maybe the one you creeated while installing or you can create a new one and can remove the old. it is to make you have admin powers08:44
karaokay, I'm asking because it was set to custom but I changed it when I was trying to mount the drives08:45
kara<Mohan_chml> thanks again, you've been a great help08:47
Mohan_chmlits geirha and not me ;)08:48
karayeah and it was you earlier ;)08:49
karaJoe too08:49
karait's been nice talking to you guys08:49
Mohan_chml(:08:49
karaand that CLI thing is sort of amazing, it helped me understand a few commands in no time08:50
karabbl08:51
Mohan_chmlkara, want to speak with its developer?08:51
Mohan_chmlk08:51
karahaha, I won't dream of it08:51
karalater08:51
Mohan_chml:)08:52
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kosaidpohello13:36
kosaidpo in my hosts file i have this vhost site and  every boot the file re-generated  and i have to re-add the site ,how can i avoid this13:36
kosaidpothANSK13:36
UndiFineDkosaidpo, you probably have dns-masq installed, which may overwrite it (/etc/hosts)13:53
kosaidpoUndiFineD: well last nihgt some guys told me thats caused by my ntweork manaeger cusi use 3G modem to get on net13:54
kosaidpoand idk how ican use terminal to use the modem13:54
UndiFineDyep that is possible too13:55
UndiFineDI am looking in /etc for a file that generates /etc/hosts13:55
kosaidpoUndiFineD: okies thanks for your help13:56
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kosaidpoUndiFineD: can you please juste tell me how ican use my modem via terminal so ican get ride of  NM14:03
UndiFineDI do not use a modem, but I believe it uses wvdial ...14:04
UndiFineDifconfig ppp0 up14:05
UndiFineDdhclient ppp014:05
kosaidpothats all ??14:06
kosaidpothose cmmd i have to type in14:06
kosaidpoUndiFineD: is there a cmmd that will launch this cmmd if i put em in file jst when i plug my modem ??14:06
UndiFineDI am not sure if my commands are complete, often wvdial is used14:07
yofel_with wvdial you'll edit /etc/wvdial.conf and it'll do the connecting, but it's been a while since I used it14:10
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kosaidpoUndiFineD: sorry kicked out14:11
yofelkosaidpo: with wvdial you'll edit /etc/wvdial.conf and it'll do the connecting, but it's been a while since I used it14:12
kosaidpoyofel: it ll get connected auto when i plug the modme ?14:12
yofelI don't think so, you'll have to run wvdial (I just used 'sudo wvdial' in a terminal) auto-connecting is more NM stuff14:13
kosaidpoyofel: well i rembe tried using it first time hwnei get my modem14:14
kosaidpoyofel: with no success my modem require no psw  n stuff but idk wht ican type in the file14:15
kosaidpotho14:15
yofelthe Modem line is what your interface is called, maybe check the 'dmesg' output after connecting your modem, that might tell you14:15
yofelother than that it's the connection information, can't help you there14:16
kosaidposee this http://pastebin.com/vs8pQDqy when i type wvdial14:16
yofelyes, your modem interface isn't /dev/modem (it was /dev/rfcomm0 when I last used it IIRC here), plug your modem in, run 'dmesg' and check if that tells you the proper name14:19
yofelif not, then I don't know how to get it14:19
kosaidpoyofel: yeh theres but idk whic one i shud pick14:21
kosaidpocan i pastbin it to you so you can help me14:22
yofelsure14:22
kosaidpotanchofak fi ubuntu-ma yak wakila ?? : )14:22
kosaidpoyofel: http://pastebin.com/s2a6udxy14:23
yofelnothing usable there :S14:25
yofelfirst one is an external hdd(?), second dunno, third a chromium crash, and last an apparmor message14:25
kosaidpoyofel: the part dhclient14:26
kosaidpoand the sdb1 its its card reader iguess14:26
kosaidpocus it has this feature14:26
yofelyeah, but dhclient has nothing to do with the modem interface14:27
kosaidpouhmm ive been told to use it as cmmd14:27
UndiFineDno I said I was not sure :)14:27
UndiFineDI do not use a modem14:27
UndiFineDI cannot find how to keep the hosts file14:28
UndiFineDonly solution i can think of is making it read-onnly14:28
yofeldhclient comes in when you have a connection and whant an IP and DNS with DHCP14:29
yofel*want14:29
yofeland the hosts file isn't edited here, not sure why it would be :/14:30
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trhisdone1hello16:39
nlsthznhi16:58
Mohan_chmlo/17:00
nlsthznsup?17:03
Mohan_chmlnothing much. its 10:30 =]17:04
iTVhope i am on right place now...17:14
iTVneed help to configure the 4x desktop to have different wall paper,,,your help please...17:14
aveilleuxiTV: It's an idea in progress, but n---17:27
* aveilleux rages!17:27
aveilleuxFor posterity: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8980705&postcount=217:29
Mjiighello everyone, i wanted to ask if it was possible to make ubuntu boot in a similar way to puppy, showing the boot steps and progress while it goes, rather than just a ubuntu logo until the system is ready. np if it's not, i'm just interested18:33
thewrathhey all18:33
thewrathMjiig, google disable quiet boot18:34
Mjiigthewrath: so just remove "quiet splash" from the boot line? thanks, i had tried something like that before but only removed quiet18:39
thewrathhave not done it in a while18:42
thewrathif you give me the file to look i can look at my ubuntu quick18:42
Mjiigthe file to change the setting in? /etc/default/grub18:44
Mjiigsorry thanks for the help just realized i really have to go18:46
aveilleuxWhat do you guys think about OpenDNS?19:18
* nlsthzn has heard about it...19:19
yofelwasn't that the service that does some auto-dns filtering? I don't trust them much19:21
aveilleuxI'm looking into OpenDNS and Norton DNS19:22
aveilleuxApparently they filter blacklisted malicious sites19:22
UndiFineDOpenDNS concept is nice, but they are too slow compared to our own dns-masq19:24
BGL-[c]norton dns hmm never heard of that19:29
BGL-[c]hmm so you can just put in the dns settings19:30
aveilleuxAaaaand they don't filter *.on.nimp.org sites19:30
aveilleux(Shock sites, don't go there)19:30
BGL-[c]maybe it'd be good for a couple employee machines19:38
fatharrahmanhello every one how is it going with development ?20:41
bioterrorwell, we are not exactly developers20:45
fatharrahmanam now online through a usb mDSL ok?21:06
fatharrahmanthis usb mDSL contain a micro memory of 2 GiB21:07
fatharrahmanI want to make this usb bootable without erase the informations is this possible??21:08
nit-witfatharrahman, whats on it now21:10
fatharrahmansome pics and maybe mDSL softwares21:11
nit-witfatharrahman, so what are you tryining to boot then just the access to the media21:17
fatharrahman?21:18
fatharrahmanpardon21:18
nit-witfatharrahman, you description lacks clarity if your trying to boot the usb21:21
fatharrahmanno only to make it bootable in order to install Ubuntu from it if needed to friends21:24
nit-witfatharrahman, you load the ISO which will boot in about a 800Mib partition leaving the other stuff in place, you will just have to resize that partition containing stuff use gparted21:28
nit-witfatharrahman, use unetbootin it installs a boot loader21:28
fatharrahmanI have only start up disk creator21:29
fatharrahmanthe default nit-win21:30
fatharrahmannit-wit sorry for misspell21:30
fatharrahmannow let me ask for a tough help21:38
fatharrahmanI am installing ubuntu for my sister in her toshiba NB 100  inside Windows 7 by  wubi it started fully rebooted and now after I heard the music of start up there is a black screen only ,,, on ctrl + alt + f2 >>ubuntu@ubuntu: unable to read data cache entry21:41
fatharrahmanhelp21:41
thewrathaveihey all22:04
thewrathhow can i tell if a variable is blank or not22:04
thewrath?22:04
thewrathi guess that would be has a value would i use [if -z $variableName]?22:05
pedro3005thewrath, what language is that?22:14
thewrathi am doing it in bash22:14
pedro3005oh, i don't know then :x22:15
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yofelthewrath: in bash it would be: if [ -z "$var" ]; then ...; fi23:34
thewrathyofel, thanks23:39
thewrathwhat if i want to get a 1 or 0 back23:39
yofel'test' (and equally the [ ]) returns 0 or 123:40
hakimsheriffwhat is the best way to deacrease a windows partrition and increase the ubuntu partrition?23:53
yofelhakimsheriff: I have never done that, but from what I know gparted should be able to do that23:57

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