[00:02] <hajour> hai chilicuil
[00:31] <fatharrahman> what is natty
[00:31] <UndiFineD> the development version of the next ubuntu
[00:32] <UndiFineD> s/version/name/
[00:34] <UndiFineD> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=narwhal+song&aq=1
[00:36] <fatharrahman> if I clicked the button check in Update Manager ok? and the updates appear to me but I click the button install and nothing come what that mean?
[00:38] <fatharrahman> natty seems  awesome
[00:40] <fatharrahman> narwals ????
[00:40] <aveilleux> fatharrahman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[00:41] <fatharrahman> I understood it I meant by??? that is it going be named narwhals I mean the 11.04
[00:42] <fatharrahman> cool
[00:43] <fatharrahman> if I clicked the button check in Update Manager ok? and the updates appear to me but I click the button install and nothing come what s that mean??
[00:48] <fatharrahman> ?
[00:53] <UndiFineD> well natty narhwhal is not ready for normal daily use yet
[00:54] <UndiFineD> people are testing it, but expect it to fail
[00:55] <UndiFineD> and those failures are good atm, it means we can find the faults
[00:55] <fatharrahman> will be ready by 11.04 ?
[00:55] <UndiFineD> yes, natty narhwal is 11.04
[00:56] <fatharrahman> are Maverick Meerkat reported bugs gonna be fixed in natty
[00:57] <fatharrahman> ?
[00:58] <UndiFineD> yes
[00:58] <UndiFineD> well people try at least
[01:41] <duanedesign> hajour: still around?
[01:41] <UndiFineD> yes
[01:42] <duanedesign> i see. I got punged earlier to help a user.
[01:42] <duanedesign> pinged*
[01:42] <hajour> yes  duanedesign
[01:42] <hajour> it is resolved already sorry
[01:42] <duanedesign> I lost my internet for the last couple hours...
[01:43] <duanedesign>   /o\ noooo!
[01:43] <duanedesign> i had to actually read a book :)
[01:44] <UndiFineD> duanedesign, I explained hajour that when a starnger walks in here with a question, we need to react fast, often they leave in a minute
[01:44] <UndiFineD> so often she asks me, but sometimes another
[01:44] <duanedesign> that great
[01:44] <duanedesign> you are right UndiFineD , they do tend to not wait around
[01:46] <UndiFineD> so often I get a vocal signal
[01:46] <UndiFineD> sometimes hajour calls in for help from another who is around
[01:48] <UndiFineD> that has gained us 2 new people yesterday
 and <rx007>
[01:49] <fatharrahman> yes
[01:50] <fatharrahman> who called?
[01:51] <UndiFineD> hehe fatharrahman I talked with duanedesign about responsive support
[01:51] <fatharrahman> any help for you UndiFineD? :)
[01:53] <fatharrahman> I'll be like you one day :) helping people :) maybe years on no matter how long
[01:53] <UndiFineD> no no, anything you learn you can pass allong
[01:54] <UndiFineD> and at some point you can even help people on subject you know nothing of
[01:56] <UndiFineD> hajour, is my gf and sometimes spots new people i did not see, so she gives me a signal
[01:56] <fatharrahman> thanx but i intend to learn basics and then pass a good content
[01:57] <duanedesign> hello fatharrahman
[01:59] <fatharrahman>  started reading books learning terminal and pyhon (hello duanedesign my teacher) and searching solutions for simple Qs  for newbies in ubuntuforums ;)
[02:02] <fatharrahman> sorry for interruption  of UndiFineD talk I dont mean that
[02:02] <UndiFineD> oh no interruption at all I knew you were on, so I kinda expected it :)
[02:06] <duanedesign> fatharrahman: that sounds great
[02:08] <fatharrahman> Thanx
[02:14] <fatharrahman> as a physician I am thinking of making a medical package in the future that could help doctors prepare for exams and be completely free in the future
[02:14] <UndiFineD> ehm.. let see where the online Oreilly books are
[02:15] <UndiFineD> http://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/
[02:16] <fatharrahman> how to download Oreilly books as pdf format ? or are they online only?
[02:18] <firewall_03> what up
[02:19] <UndiFineD> hey firewall_03
[02:19] <firewall_03> anything exciting going on in here?
[02:19] <UndiFineD> fatharrahman, sometimes Oreilly makes books available themselves as pdf
[02:28] <firewall_03> they been running ebook deal of the day lately, some pretty good titles for $15.99
[02:34] <fatharrahman> at launchpad I went to : participate>Bugs to report a bug but there is no button for that only search box ??
[02:35] <UndiFineD> time for bed.. 3.30 am
[02:36] <firewall_03> UndiFineD: gd night, I don't miss those days, but I did like getting off early
[02:36] <UndiFineD> I have to get up in 3 hours ;)
[02:36] <fatharrahman> 5:36 am here gd night UnuFineD
[02:38] <fatharrahman> gd night UndiFineD
[02:39] <fatharrahman> ?? site to report a bug not seen at my launchpad
[02:44] <fatharrahman> oh I found it
[02:45] <hajour> fatharrahman, UndiFineD  is going to sleep.and i go to.:)good night fatharrahman
[02:46] <fatharrahman> gd night hajour you were very kind to me yesterday thanx again
[02:47] <hajour> your welcome fatharrahman :)
[02:47] <hajour> bye :)
[02:49] <fatharrahman> bye :)
[02:59] <fatharrahman> duanedesign , firewall_03 , gd night
[03:00] <firewall_03> night
[04:24] <kara> hi, could somebody help me restore the default Ubuntu GDM?
[04:32] <Mohan_chml> kara, are you able to login?
[04:33] <kara> yes
[04:34] <kara> but each time i have to type in my username and password
[04:35] <kara> and the appearance configuration window pops up
[04:35] <Mohan_chml> hmmm!
[04:36] <Mohan_chml> kara, type sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop
[04:36] <Mohan_chml> in terminal
[04:36] <Mohan_chml> and you want Ubuntu to not to show you the login screen?
[04:36] <kara> okay, hold on please
[04:36] <Mohan_chml> sure
[04:36] <kara> okay
[04:37] <Mohan_chml> and you want Ubuntu to not to show you the login screen?
[04:37] <Mohan_chml> ?
[04:37] <Mohan_chml> I mean you want it to automatically login to your account too?
[04:37] <kara> I just want it go back to default
[04:38] <kara> do you want me to log out and then back in?
[04:38] <Mohan_chml> I think you changed the theme of the login screen and you need default right?
[04:39] <kara> exactly, also to get rid of the appearance window that shows up
[04:39] <Mohan_chml> now appearance window will not pop up
[04:39] <Mohan_chml> just log off and get back please
[04:39] <kara> sure :)
[04:39] <kara> brb
[04:39] <Mohan_chml> and if you are okay, then no worries. or else
[04:40] <Mohan_chml> you have to use the appearance congif manager to set to default
[04:41] <kara> hello again
[04:41] <kara> the popping window is gone :D
[04:41] <Mohan_chml> :)
[04:42] <kara> but I still hve to type in my username, password too :S
[04:42] <Mohan_chml> hmmm then you have to change the theme back i think
[04:42] <kara> and there is a white bar at the bottom
[04:42] <Mohan_chml> let me look for it
[04:44] <Mohan_chml> kara, sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow
[04:45] <kara> okay, done
[04:45] <Mohan_chml> then log off and the appearance config will come. just choose other themes
[04:45] <Mohan_chml> come back and then do unlink command i said earlier ;)
[04:46] <kara> i will :)
[04:46] <Mohan_chml> (;
[04:48] <kara> could you please type that command again? :$
[04:48] <JoeMaverickSett> sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop
[04:49] <Mohan_chml> hey JoeMaverickSett. ty for saving me. i am eating by hand :D
[04:49] <kara> thanks Joe
[04:49] <JoeMaverickSett> no problem.
[04:49] <Mohan_chml> kara, open up terminal and press up arrow
[04:49] <Mohan_chml> it will show you the commands you typed earlier
[04:50] <kara> OH!
[04:50] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: enjoy dude. :D
[04:50] <JoeMaverickSett> kara: never mind that it will come eventually. :)
[04:50] <Mohan_chml> kara, try getting CLI companion
[04:50] <kara> CLI?
[04:51] <Mohan_chml> JoeMaverickSett, give its link to him
[04:51] <JoeMaverickSett> okie.
[04:51] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: .deb link?
[04:51] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[04:52] <Mohan_chml> yup
[04:52] <JoeMaverickSett> kara: download this program, it will help ya use the terminal http://launchpad.net/clicompanion/1.0/1.0rc2/+download/clicompanion_1.0-3.1_all.deb :)
[04:52]  * JoeMaverickSett is downloading it for himself. :D
[04:54] <kara> I will log out again to check if it worked out well ;)
[04:54] <Mohan_chml> it will work ;)
[04:56] <kara> Ahh! still the white bar
[04:56] <JoeMaverickSett> kara: here is the wiki link on how to use CLI Conpanion effectively. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/clicompanion :)
[04:57] <bodhizazen> kara, http://linuxcommand.org/
[04:57] <bodhizazen> =)
[04:57] <kara> thank you
[04:57] <bodhizazen> kara, learn to read the man pages
[04:58] <bodhizazen> They seem difficult at first, but if you can read and understand them ...
[04:58] <bodhizazen> In a terminal
[04:58] <bodhizazen> man grep
[04:58] <bodhizazen> info grep
[04:58]  * Mohan_chml runs away, as the BOSS is here :D
[04:58] <bodhizazen> And if you install most, you can have your man pages in color
[04:59] <bodhizazen> in .bashrc add a line :
[04:59] <bodhizazen> pager='most'
[04:59]  * JoeMaverickSett runs for his life! :P
[05:03]  * kara thinks that CLI Companion is really useful
[05:03] <JoeMaverickSett> kara: it is. :D
[05:06] <kara> the login page's still not fixed, is there a way to bypass it?
[05:06] <Mohan_chml> you mean making it to not to ask user name and password>'
[05:06] <kara> yep
[05:08] <JoeMaverickSett> System > Administration > Login Screen > Tick "Log in as <username>" ?
[05:08] <JoeMaverickSett> Mohan_chml: ^ might that work?
[05:08] <kara> I tried that but it didn't work
[05:08] <JoeMaverickSett> :O
[05:09] <Mohan_chml> that should work
[05:14] <bodhizazen> kara, do you have an encrypted home directory ?
[05:15] <kara> honestly I don't know
[05:16] <bodhizazen> LOL
[05:16] <bodhizazen> When you installed Ubuntu, do you recall if you opted to encrypt home ?
[05:16] <bodhizazen> If so, I do not think you can automatically log in
[05:17] <kara> no I didn't, installing process went so smooth
[05:17] <kara> not to mention that I used to log in automatically
[05:19] <kara> it all happened when I installed/uninstalled macbuntu I guess
[08:26] <kara> hi, could somebody please help me mount my FAT32 drives?
[08:31] <Mohan_chml> kara, is it not mounting when you hit the partition?
[08:31] <kara> it used to, but not anymore
[08:32] <kara> now I get this message >>
[08:32] <kara> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[08:32] <kara> mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/DRV1_VOL1
[08:34] <geirha> kara: Does it have an entry in /etc/fstab?
[08:34] <Mohan_chml> geirha, any partition table issues?
[08:34] <kara> /dev/sda1                                  /media/DRV1_VOL1  vfat  noauto                                                                        0  0
[08:35] <geirha> kara: Change noauto to noauto,users
[08:36] <geirha> That should allow other users than root to mount it
[08:36] <kara> okay, hang on please
[08:38] <kara> cool! it works :D
[08:38] <geirha> :)
[08:38] <kara> thank you geirha
[08:38] <kara> and thanks to you Mohan_chml, I owe you that ;)
[08:38] <geirha> np :)
[08:43] <kara> one more question if you don't mind
[08:43] <kara> in <Users Settings> the default account type should be set to "Administrator"?
[08:43] <Mohan_chml> kara, shoot
[08:44] <kara> there is only one user.. me
[08:44] <Mohan_chml> one account should be an admin. It maybe the one you creeated while installing or you can create a new one and can remove the old. it is to make you have admin powers
[08:45] <kara> okay, I'm asking because it was set to custom but I changed it when I was trying to mount the drives
 thanks again, you've been a great help
[08:48] <Mohan_chml> its geirha and not me ;)
[08:49] <kara> yeah and it was you earlier ;)
[08:49] <kara> Joe too
[08:49] <kara> it's been nice talking to you guys
[08:49] <Mohan_chml> (:
[08:50] <kara> and that CLI thing is sort of amazing, it helped me understand a few commands in no time
[08:51] <kara> bbl
[08:51] <Mohan_chml> kara, want to speak with its developer?
[08:51] <Mohan_chml> k
[08:51] <kara> haha, I won't dream of it
[08:51] <kara> later
[08:52] <Mohan_chml> :)
[13:36] <kosaidpo> hello
[13:36] <kosaidpo>  in my hosts file i have this vhost site and  every boot the file re-generated  and i have to re-add the site ,how can i avoid this
[13:36] <kosaidpo> thANSK
[13:53] <UndiFineD> kosaidpo, you probably have dns-masq installed, which may overwrite it (/etc/hosts)
[13:54] <kosaidpo> UndiFineD: well last nihgt some guys told me thats caused by my ntweork manaeger cusi use 3G modem to get on net
[13:54] <kosaidpo> and idk how ican use terminal to use the modem
[13:55] <UndiFineD> yep that is possible too
[13:55] <UndiFineD> I am looking in /etc for a file that generates /etc/hosts
[13:56] <kosaidpo> UndiFineD: okies thanks for your help
[14:03] <kosaidpo> UndiFineD: can you please juste tell me how ican use my modem via terminal so ican get ride of  NM
[14:04] <UndiFineD> I do not use a modem, but I believe it uses wvdial ...
[14:05] <UndiFineD> ifconfig ppp0 up
[14:05] <UndiFineD> dhclient ppp0
[14:06] <kosaidpo> thats all ??
[14:06] <kosaidpo> those cmmd i have to type in
[14:06] <kosaidpo> UndiFineD: is there a cmmd that will launch this cmmd if i put em in file jst when i plug my modem ??
[14:07] <UndiFineD> I am not sure if my commands are complete, often wvdial is used
[14:10] <yofel_> with wvdial you'll edit /etc/wvdial.conf and it'll do the connecting, but it's been a while since I used it
[14:11] <kosaidpo> UndiFineD: sorry kicked out
[14:12] <yofel> kosaidpo: with wvdial you'll edit /etc/wvdial.conf and it'll do the connecting, but it's been a while since I used it
[14:12] <kosaidpo> yofel: it ll get connected auto when i plug the modme ?
[14:13] <yofel> I don't think so, you'll have to run wvdial (I just used 'sudo wvdial' in a terminal) auto-connecting is more NM stuff
[14:14] <kosaidpo> yofel: well i rembe tried using it first time hwnei get my modem
[14:15] <kosaidpo> yofel: with no success my modem require no psw  n stuff but idk wht ican type in the file
[14:15] <kosaidpo> tho
[14:15] <yofel> the Modem line is what your interface is called, maybe check the 'dmesg' output after connecting your modem, that might tell you
[14:16] <yofel> other than that it's the connection information, can't help you there
[14:16] <kosaidpo> see this http://pastebin.com/vs8pQDqy when i type wvdial
[14:19] <yofel> yes, your modem interface isn't /dev/modem (it was /dev/rfcomm0 when I last used it IIRC here), plug your modem in, run 'dmesg' and check if that tells you the proper name
[14:19] <yofel> if not, then I don't know how to get it
[14:21] <kosaidpo> yofel: yeh theres but idk whic one i shud pick
[14:22] <kosaidpo> can i pastbin it to you so you can help me
[14:22] <yofel> sure
[14:22] <kosaidpo> tanchofak fi ubuntu-ma yak wakila ?? : )
[14:23] <kosaidpo> yofel: http://pastebin.com/s2a6udxy
[14:25] <yofel> nothing usable there :S
[14:25] <yofel> first one is an external hdd(?), second dunno, third a chromium crash, and last an apparmor message
[14:26] <kosaidpo> yofel: the part dhclient
[14:26] <kosaidpo> and the sdb1 its its card reader iguess
[14:26] <kosaidpo> cus it has this feature
[14:27] <yofel> yeah, but dhclient has nothing to do with the modem interface
[14:27] <kosaidpo> uhmm ive been told to use it as cmmd
[14:27] <UndiFineD> no I said I was not sure :)
[14:27] <UndiFineD> I do not use a modem
[14:28] <UndiFineD> I cannot find how to keep the hosts file
[14:28] <UndiFineD> only solution i can think of is making it read-onnly
[14:29] <yofel> dhclient comes in when you have a connection and whant an IP and DNS with DHCP
[14:29] <yofel> *want
[14:30] <yofel> and the hosts file isn't edited here, not sure why it would be :/
[16:39] <trhisdone1> hello
[16:58] <nlsthzn> hi
[17:00] <Mohan_chml> o/
[17:03] <nlsthzn> sup?
[17:04] <Mohan_chml> nothing much. its 10:30 =]
[17:14] <iTV> hope i am on right place now...
[17:14] <iTV> need help to configure the 4x desktop to have different wall paper,,,your help please...
[17:27] <aveilleux> iTV: It's an idea in progress, but n---
[17:27]  * aveilleux rages!
[17:29] <aveilleux> For posterity: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8980705&postcount=2
[18:33] <Mjiig> hello everyone, i wanted to ask if it was possible to make ubuntu boot in a similar way to puppy, showing the boot steps and progress while it goes, rather than just a ubuntu logo until the system is ready. np if it's not, i'm just interested
[18:33] <thewrath> hey all
[18:34] <thewrath> Mjiig, google disable quiet boot
[18:39] <Mjiig> thewrath: so just remove "quiet splash" from the boot line? thanks, i had tried something like that before but only removed quiet
[18:42] <thewrath> have not done it in a while
[18:42] <thewrath> if you give me the file to look i can look at my ubuntu quick
[18:44] <Mjiig> the file to change the setting in? /etc/default/grub
[18:46] <Mjiig> sorry thanks for the help just realized i really have to go
[19:18] <aveilleux> What do you guys think about OpenDNS?
[19:19]  * nlsthzn has heard about it...
[19:21] <yofel> wasn't that the service that does some auto-dns filtering? I don't trust them much
[19:22] <aveilleux> I'm looking into OpenDNS and Norton DNS
[19:22] <aveilleux> Apparently they filter blacklisted malicious sites
[19:24] <UndiFineD> OpenDNS concept is nice, but they are too slow compared to our own dns-masq
[19:29] <BGL-[c]> norton dns hmm never heard of that
[19:30] <BGL-[c]> hmm so you can just put in the dns settings
[19:30] <aveilleux> Aaaaand they don't filter *.on.nimp.org sites
[19:30] <aveilleux> (Shock sites, don't go there)
[19:38] <BGL-[c]> maybe it'd be good for a couple employee machines
[20:41] <fatharrahman> hello every one how is it going with development ?
[20:45] <bioterror> well, we are not exactly developers
[21:06] <fatharrahman> am now online through a usb mDSL ok?
[21:07] <fatharrahman> this usb mDSL contain a micro memory of 2 GiB
[21:08] <fatharrahman> I want to make this usb bootable without erase the informations is this possible??
[21:10] <nit-wit> fatharrahman, whats on it now
[21:11] <fatharrahman> some pics and maybe mDSL softwares
[21:17] <nit-wit> fatharrahman, so what are you tryining to boot then just the access to the media
[21:18] <fatharrahman> ?
[21:18] <fatharrahman> pardon
[21:21] <nit-wit> fatharrahman, you description lacks clarity if your trying to boot the usb
[21:24] <fatharrahman> no only to make it bootable in order to install Ubuntu from it if needed to friends
[21:28] <nit-wit> fatharrahman, you load the ISO which will boot in about a 800Mib partition leaving the other stuff in place, you will just have to resize that partition containing stuff use gparted
[21:28] <nit-wit> fatharrahman, use unetbootin it installs a boot loader
[21:29] <fatharrahman> I have only start up disk creator
[21:30] <fatharrahman> the default nit-win
[21:30] <fatharrahman> nit-wit sorry for misspell
[21:38] <fatharrahman> now let me ask for a tough help
[21:41] <fatharrahman> I am installing ubuntu for my sister in her toshiba NB 100  inside Windows 7 by  wubi it started fully rebooted and now after I heard the music of start up there is a black screen only ,,, on ctrl + alt + f2 >>ubuntu@ubuntu: unable to read data cache entry
[21:41] <fatharrahman> help
[22:04] <thewrath> aveihey all
[22:04] <thewrath> how can i tell if a variable is blank or not
[22:04] <thewrath> ?
[22:05] <thewrath> i guess that would be has a value would i use [if -z $variableName]?
[22:14] <pedro3005> thewrath, what language is that?
[22:14] <thewrath> i am doing it in bash
[22:15] <pedro3005> oh, i don't know then :x
[23:34] <yofel> thewrath: in bash it would be: if [ -z "$var" ]; then ...; fi
[23:39] <thewrath> yofel, thanks
[23:39] <thewrath> what if i want to get a 1 or 0 back
[23:40] <yofel> 'test' (and equally the [ ]) returns 0 or 1
[23:53] <hakimsheriff> what is the best way to deacrease a windows partrition and increase the ubuntu partrition?
[23:57] <yofel> hakimsheriff: I have never done that, but from what I know gparted should be able to do that