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jonoTechnoviking, around?01:37
nhandlerjono: Idle 1 day 3 hours01:39
jonoaha01:40
duanedesignhello czajkowski02:10
duanedesignczajkowski: my first run at the CoC signing screencast http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/screencasts/02:12
DoctorMOduanedesign: hmm, CoC signing, doesn't that require a gpg key?02:29
PendulumDoctorMO: did last I checked02:29
Pendulum(which was admittedly a little over a year ago when I signed the CoC)02:29
DoctorMOIt's just we have a fairly poor story for gpg keys... it still needs fixing.02:30
PiciIt indeed does, which is what makes it a little complicated.02:30
duanedesignPendulum: yeah, I had to create another launchpad account so i could do the screencast.02:32
duanedesigni also had to upload another key to the keyserver and create an email address because i didnt want another key attached to my email/name02:33
duanedesignyou only get one shot on the screencast too. You cant unsign the CoC to redo the screencast.02:34
nigelbMorning all02:44
duanedesignnigelb: hello!02:53
Pendulumhiya nigelb02:55
nigelb\o/02:56
nhandlerduanedesign: Don't forget to upload that revocation certificate if you aren't going to be using that key03:01
nigelbI thought one could unsign the CoC03:03
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nhandlernigelb: Yep, you can deactivate a signature on the /+codeofconduct page03:04
nhandlerHowever, only an LP admin can reactivate a deactivated signature03:04
nigelboh, okay03:05
nigelbooh, interesting http://www.neary-consulting.com/index.php/2010/12/08/curing-shy-developer-syndrome/03:07
* jussi LOL's at 6x keybuck... :D07:36
* nigelb thinks its more than 6x now07:49
nigelbAt leats that's one fine way to drive the point home :p07:49
kim0Hey morning folks07:55
* kim0 waves07:55
nigelbMorning kim007:57
kim0nigelb: How is it going for ya07:57
nigelbkim0: not all great.  A sprained ankle seems to be my highlight today07:58
kim0nigelb: ew07:59
kim0how did you get that07:59
nigelbkim0: Accident on Sunday.  I escaped with a few scratches and a contustion to lower back08:00
nigelbthe sprained ankle seems to be part of that package08:00
kim0yeah .. sorry to hear08:00
nigelbIt doesn't hurt, just swollen :)08:00
dpmgood morning everyone08:17
czajkowskiduanedesign: whoo08:19
czajkowskiAloha folks08:19
dpmhey czajkowski08:19
kim0dpm: czajkowski aloha indeed o/ :)08:20
dpmhey kim0, did you have a nice day off?08:21
kim0dpm: Yeah it was nice .. how about you08:21
dpmkim0, nice too. We drove up north to visit the Basque Country - we didn't have much luck with the weather, but it was fun08:22
kim0dpm: sounds awesome08:22
kim0dpm: are you getting lots of snow too08:23
dpmkim0, not right now. In the north we did see snow, but in Valencia it's still too warm (~14°C right now)08:24
nisshhbah! i cant run Unity in 11.04 :(08:24
kim0dpm: Yeah .. that's what I'm talking about :) thought everyone was getting snow like dholbach ;)08:25
dpmyeah, I've heard it's pretty cold up there. But we have to wait for dholbach to log in - then we can remind him :P08:26
nigelblol08:28
dholbachgood morning!08:31
nigelbAha, talk about snow and dholbach is here :p08:34
nigelbGood Morning Daniel :)08:34
dholbachhey nigelb08:35
dpmmorning dholbach!08:36
dholbachhola dpm08:36
nisshhlooks like even Ubuntu will force me to upgrade my hardware now :(08:39
nigelbnisshh: New feature :p08:45
kim0dholbach: hey morning o/08:45
nisshhnigelb, new feature?08:45
dholbachhey kim008:46
nigelbnisshh: yeah, identifies bad hardware and forces you to buy new ones :P08:46
kim0dholbach: I was just envying your snow hehe08:46
dholbachkim0, I'm looking outside and it's very very white :)08:46
nisshhnigelb, hah! :)08:46
nigelbdholbach: I envy your snow too08:46
nisshhnigelb, i consider my hardware old not bad :)08:47
kim0:) damnit .. it's too freaking sunny here 20C duh08:47
nisshhnigelb, mind you this is 8 years old now :)08:47
nisshhkim0, its a lovely 27 C here atm :)08:47
nigelb27 here too08:47
dholbach-2°C08:47
kim0wow08:47
nisshhhehe08:48
kim0Global weather report08:48
nigelbBut I wish it were -2 here :(08:48
kim0there you have it08:48
nisshhheh08:48
nisshhwe never get snow in australia :)08:48
nisshhlowest it gets is about 2-3 C08:48
* nigelb crosses australia off from '50 places to see before I die' :p08:48
nisshhand thats considered a really cold winter08:48
nisshhnigelb, we have our perks :)08:48
nigelbhaha08:48
nisshhnigelb, you wont get better fishing/snorkelling anywhere else :)08:49
nisshhand now i sound like a travel agent :)08:49
nigelbheh08:50
popeyMorning internet!08:53
nisshhhey popey :)08:53
nigelbMorning caveman :p08:53
czajkowskidaft question time folks :( if a laptop was set up with a computer name and you needed to change that, where do I change it ?13:11
nisshhczajkowski, is this an ubuntu or windows question? because im not even sure its possible to have a "computer name" on ubuntu13:12
nigelbczajkowski: "gksudo gedit /etc/hostname"13:14
czajkowskiUbuntu13:19
nigelbczajkowski: did you try that/13:19
Pici!hostname13:19
ubot2Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.13:19
czajkowskijust doing it now13:19
kim0dholbach: howdy .. do we have any pages on fixing FTBFS .. like how to setup a dev env and the like13:20
nisshhah, i forgot about the hostname13:20
czajkowskithanks done13:22
dholbachkim0, http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/getting-set-up.html13:22
czajkowskisupose I should reboot to take effect?|13:22
PiciYou shouldn't have to.13:22
czajkowskiterminal and memenue still shows old name13:22
nigelbdid you try new terminal?13:22
czajkowskiyup13:23
nigelbI guess then restart required13:23
dholbachkim0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix should help too (I hope to rewrite it soon)13:23
nigelbkim0: are you looking for how to set up pbuilder env?13:24
kim0dholbach: nigelb Daviey mentioned a few server packages are breaking for natty .. List at http://tinyurl.com/server-ftbfs13:24
czajkowskiwhoo reboot fixes it13:24
czajkowskinow Penny is up and running :)13:24
kim0so I was just interested to understand how to begin fixing that ..13:25
Pendulumczajkowski: if you actually call it Penny often around me there's going to be some confusion13:25
* Daviey reboots Pendulum 13:25
nigelblol13:25
dholbachkim0, if you run into any stumbling blocks, let me know13:25
PendulumDaviey: do I get a hardware upgrade to something that doesn't fall apart too?13:26
czajkowskiPendulum: work machine :)13:26
czajkowskicalling it sheldon was also an option13:26
DavieyPendulum: The best you can expect is a fsck.ext413:26
nigelbkim0: setting up dev env depending on how you want to do it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases/OtherWays13:28
nigelbGosh, these wiki pages look neat13:28
nigelbIt was a mess when I was looking at them last13:29
* nigelb looks for a name13:29
* nigelb hugs dholbach 13:29
dholbachas you can see in the history, it's not only my work :)13:30
nigelbThis one's history shows only you. :D13:30
kim0nigelb: thanks reading13:31
nigelbnp :)13:32
czajkowskioh now I can't log on...13:33
czajkowskithis may not have been a wise move13:33
nigelboh dear13:34
czajkowskiI also changed the homne dir name and renbooted it13:35
czajkowskistill looking for one one13:35
czajkowskisigh13:35
* czajkowski goes off to find a lucid cd again and re install 13:44
nigelbThat would have sounded way cooler if s/lucid/lynx/ ;)13:44
czajkowskiI dont say I'm running Karma when I'#m running Karmic or Meerkat for Maverick so why would I for lynx ?13:45
nisshhhave you guys checked out Diaspora?13:46
czajkowskinope13:51
nisshhczajkowski, its like an open source facebook :)13:54
nisshhand with far better privacy :)13:55
czajkowskinisshh: I know what it is just you asked had we checked it out.13:55
nisshhczajkowski, oh ok :)13:55
czajkowskinisshh: I suspect it'll be like indenti.ca and probably never really take off and be full of many extremests13:55
nisshhhmmm, maybe :)13:56
nigelbLaters all!14:14
czajkowskidholbach: I'm sure if seif had looked at the LD he'd have seen the same information or even a quick google :(15:06
dholbachczajkowski, I commented on his blog post :)15:07
czajkowskiaye15:07
czajkowskiin the time it'd take to write the post, he could have googled :(15:07
dholbachit's no big deal15:08
czajkowskioh I know it's not15:08
czajkowskibut I do wonder did he A) not know about the LD or B) just being lazy :s15:08
dholbachI'm sure there's loads of people who don't know15:08
czajkowskiyou think..15:10
czajkowskihmm15:10
dholbachcan somebody please RT http://identi.ca/notice/59991059 and/or http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntudev/status/12462810374086656 ? :)15:10
czajkowskisure15:11
dholbachthanks muchly :)15:11
czajkowskidone15:12
czajkowskidholbach: who looks after the installer process?15:13
dholbachczajkowski, ev and cjwatson15:13
czajkowskiohh15:13
czajkowskithanks15:13
czajkowskitime to go poke him15:14
dpmif someone can RT, Chromium is now translatable in Launchpad \o/15:27
dpmhttp://twitter.com/#!/ubuntul10n/status/1283370383101952015:27
dpmhttp://identi.ca/notice/6006206615:27
=== dholbach_ is now known as dholbach
dholbachhey jono15:58
jonohi dh15:58
jonohi dholbach15:58
jonohi all15:58
dholbachexcited excited excited15:58
jonodholbach, excited?16:05
jonokim0, call?16:05
kim0jono: moment16:05
kim0jono: ok I'm ready16:07
jonokim0, cool one sec16:07
czajkowskidpm: done16:08
czajkowskiJust submited my 1st talk for FOSDEM ever :)16:19
duanedesignczajkowski: nice!16:30
nisshhdholbach, your ustream is in a couple of hours isnt it?16:37
nisshhdisregard that...16:38
dpmthanks czajkowski :)16:39
czajkowskidpm: np, anytime16:40
duanedesignczajkowski: which topic was the talk for?16:45
czajkowskiUK govermnent and open source16:45
czajkowskiwhoever neil j patiel is they're on a  lot of bugs lately on lp :)16:56
jcastrojono: I could use a 2 minute skype call if you have room for me today16:57
jonojcastro, sure in a few mins ok?16:57
jcastrowhenevs16:57
jcastroI've got a new skype setup too *crosses fingers*16:57
czajkowskiduanedesign: full title : Is the UK Government backing Free Software?16:58
jcastroduanedesign: Ran into this in my reader, you might want to nick it for the screencast team: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/12/09/most-common-mistakes-in-screencasting/17:07
duanedesignthanks jcastro17:10
dholbachalright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!17:26
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize17:27
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.status:list=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status:list=FIXRELEASED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.sub17:27
jcastroscriber=&field.tag=bitesize&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&search=Search17:27
PiciThats a nice link.17:28
jcastrohttp://goo.gl/t0yzf17:31
jcastrosorry!17:31
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/67759417:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 677594 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Workspace switcher useless with one workspace (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Low,Triaged]17:32
jcastrohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/68346617:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 683466 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "There are 2 Quit menu options in Quicklist (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged]17:32
jcastrosorry don't mean to paste in random links without context, I was on skype with jono17:34
greg-gkim0: mind a PM on the cloud community site?18:07
kim0greg-g: sure np .. I'm just in another conversation right now18:07
greg-gkim0: no worries, no rush on this.18:08
jcastroman, my unity bugs folder gets absolutely SMOKED on thursdays19:47
Technovikingjcastro: safe to upgrade yet from python 2.720:01
Technovikingjcastro: also, is there plans to update the name of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage to the ubuntu-gnome-desktop. It my be confusing after Unity is default20:03
jcastroTechnoviking: I am holding off still, not sure what the status is.20:04
jcastroTechnoviking: for #2 that's a didrocks question20:04
jcastrobut I am sure they've thought of that20:04
jcastroTechnoviking: did you see on the forum DBO says he has the "arrange stuff in my launcher" branch almost ready.20:04
Technovikingyup, I think Unity will be smoking by alpha 220:05
doctormoThoughts on my new poster? http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/en/material/poster/free-culture-poster21:30
jonodoctormo, looks great!21:54
doctormothanks jono :-)21:55
AlanBellGNU/Linux23:45
AlanBelldoctormo: rather awesome poster23:47
doctormoThanks AlanBell, I actually put GnuLinux delibratly, I hate that damn slash.23:48
AlanBellnot a fan of that terminology either23:49
AlanBellhowever Linux is not a GNU project23:49
AlanBellso GNULinux is perhaps a bit misleading23:49
* AlanBell just calls it Ubuntu23:50
doctormoI'm the same with a lot of these things, for some reason this one came out different.23:50
AlanBellGNU & Linux perhaps23:50
doctormoAlanBell: Gnu isn't a Linux project, nor is gnome, firefox or xorg... yet we're all in a bit of a thing about what to call things.23:51

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