[01:37] <jono> Technoviking, around?
[01:39] <nhandler> jono: Idle 1 day 3 hours
[01:40] <jono> aha
[02:10] <duanedesign> hello czajkowski
[02:12] <duanedesign> czajkowski: my first run at the CoC signing screencast http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/screencasts/
[02:29] <DoctorMO> duanedesign: hmm, CoC signing, doesn't that require a gpg key?
[02:29] <Pendulum> DoctorMO: did last I checked
[02:29] <Pendulum> (which was admittedly a little over a year ago when I signed the CoC)
[02:30] <DoctorMO> It's just we have a fairly poor story for gpg keys... it still needs fixing.
[02:30] <Pici> It indeed does, which is what makes it a little complicated.
[02:32] <duanedesign> Pendulum: yeah, I had to create another launchpad account so i could do the screencast.
[02:33] <duanedesign> i also had to upload another key to the keyserver and create an email address because i didnt want another key attached to my email/name
[02:34] <duanedesign> you only get one shot on the screencast too. You cant unsign the CoC to redo the screencast.
[02:44] <nigelb> Morning all
[02:53] <duanedesign> nigelb: hello!
[02:55] <Pendulum> hiya nigelb
[02:56] <nigelb> \o/
[03:01] <nhandler> duanedesign: Don't forget to upload that revocation certificate if you aren't going to be using that key
[03:03] <nigelb> I thought one could unsign the CoC
[03:04] <nhandler> nigelb: Yep, you can deactivate a signature on the /+codeofconduct page
[03:04] <nhandler> However, only an LP admin can reactivate a deactivated signature
[03:05] <nigelb> oh, okay
[03:07] <nigelb> ooh, interesting http://www.neary-consulting.com/index.php/2010/12/08/curing-shy-developer-syndrome/
[07:36]  * jussi LOL's at 6x keybuck... :D
[07:49]  * nigelb thinks its more than 6x now
[07:49] <nigelb> At leats that's one fine way to drive the point home :p
[07:55] <kim0> Hey morning folks
[07:55]  * kim0 waves
[07:57] <nigelb> Morning kim0
[07:57] <kim0> nigelb: How is it going for ya
[07:58] <nigelb> kim0: not all great.  A sprained ankle seems to be my highlight today
[07:59] <kim0> nigelb: ew
[07:59] <kim0> how did you get that
[08:00] <nigelb> kim0: Accident on Sunday.  I escaped with a few scratches and a contustion to lower back
[08:00] <nigelb> the sprained ankle seems to be part of that package
[08:00] <kim0> yeah .. sorry to hear
[08:00] <nigelb> It doesn't hurt, just swollen :)
[08:17] <dpm> good morning everyone
[08:19] <czajkowski> duanedesign: whoo
[08:19] <czajkowski> Aloha folks
[08:19] <dpm> hey czajkowski
[08:20] <kim0> dpm: czajkowski aloha indeed o/ :)
[08:21] <dpm> hey kim0, did you have a nice day off?
[08:21] <kim0> dpm: Yeah it was nice .. how about you
[08:22] <dpm> kim0, nice too. We drove up north to visit the Basque Country - we didn't have much luck with the weather, but it was fun
[08:22] <kim0> dpm: sounds awesome
[08:23] <kim0> dpm: are you getting lots of snow too
[08:24] <dpm> kim0, not right now. In the north we did see snow, but in Valencia it's still too warm (~14°C right now)
[08:24] <nisshh> bah! i cant run Unity in 11.04 :(
[08:25] <kim0> dpm: Yeah .. that's what I'm talking about :) thought everyone was getting snow like dholbach ;)
[08:26] <dpm> yeah, I've heard it's pretty cold up there. But we have to wait for dholbach to log in - then we can remind him :P
[08:28] <nigelb> lol
[08:31] <dholbach> good morning!
[08:34] <nigelb> Aha, talk about snow and dholbach is here :p
[08:34] <nigelb> Good Morning Daniel :)
[08:35] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:36] <dpm> morning dholbach!
[08:36] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:39] <nisshh> looks like even Ubuntu will force me to upgrade my hardware now :(
[08:45] <nigelb> nisshh: New feature :p
[08:45] <kim0> dholbach: hey morning o/
[08:45] <nisshh> nigelb, new feature?
[08:46] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:46] <nigelb> nisshh: yeah, identifies bad hardware and forces you to buy new ones :P
[08:46] <kim0> dholbach: I was just envying your snow hehe
[08:46] <dholbach> kim0, I'm looking outside and it's very very white :)
[08:46] <nisshh> nigelb, hah! :)
[08:46] <nigelb> dholbach: I envy your snow too
[08:47] <nisshh> nigelb, i consider my hardware old not bad :)
[08:47] <kim0> :) damnit .. it's too freaking sunny here 20C duh
[08:47] <nisshh> nigelb, mind you this is 8 years old now :)
[08:47] <nisshh> kim0, its a lovely 27 C here atm :)
[08:47] <nigelb> 27 here too
[08:47] <dholbach> -2°C
[08:47] <kim0> wow
[08:48] <nisshh> hehe
[08:48] <kim0> Global weather report
[08:48] <nigelb> But I wish it were -2 here :(
[08:48] <kim0> there you have it
[08:48] <nisshh> heh
[08:48] <nisshh> we never get snow in australia :)
[08:48] <nisshh> lowest it gets is about 2-3 C
[08:48]  * nigelb crosses australia off from '50 places to see before I die' :p
[08:48] <nisshh> and thats considered a really cold winter
[08:48] <nisshh> nigelb, we have our perks :)
[08:48] <nigelb> haha
[08:49] <nisshh> nigelb, you wont get better fishing/snorkelling anywhere else :)
[08:49] <nisshh> and now i sound like a travel agent :)
[08:50] <nigelb> heh
[08:53] <popey> Morning internet!
[08:53] <nisshh> hey popey :)
[08:53] <nigelb> Morning caveman :p
[13:11] <czajkowski> daft question time folks :( if a laptop was set up with a computer name and you needed to change that, where do I change it ?
[13:12] <nisshh> czajkowski, is this an ubuntu or windows question? because im not even sure its possible to have a "computer name" on ubuntu
[13:14] <nigelb> czajkowski: "gksudo gedit /etc/hostname"
[13:19] <czajkowski> Ubuntu
[13:19] <nigelb> czajkowski: did you try that/
[13:19] <Pici> !hostname
[13:19] <ubot2> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.
[13:19] <czajkowski> just doing it now
[13:20] <kim0> dholbach: howdy .. do we have any pages on fixing FTBFS .. like how to setup a dev env and the like
[13:20] <nisshh> ah, i forgot about the hostname
[13:22] <czajkowski> thanks done
[13:22] <dholbach> kim0, http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/getting-set-up.html
[13:22] <czajkowski> supose I should reboot to take effect?|
[13:22] <Pici> You shouldn't have to.
[13:22] <czajkowski> terminal and memenue still shows old name
[13:22] <nigelb> did you try new terminal?
[13:23] <czajkowski> yup
[13:23] <nigelb> I guess then restart required
[13:23] <dholbach> kim0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix should help too (I hope to rewrite it soon)
[13:24] <nigelb> kim0: are you looking for how to set up pbuilder env?
[13:24] <kim0> dholbach: nigelb Daviey mentioned a few server packages are breaking for natty .. List at http://tinyurl.com/server-ftbfs
[13:24] <czajkowski> whoo reboot fixes it
[13:24] <czajkowski> now Penny is up and running :)
[13:25] <kim0> so I was just interested to understand how to begin fixing that ..
[13:25] <Pendulum> czajkowski: if you actually call it Penny often around me there's going to be some confusion
[13:25]  * Daviey reboots Pendulum 
[13:25] <nigelb> lol
[13:25] <dholbach> kim0, if you run into any stumbling blocks, let me know
[13:26] <Pendulum> Daviey: do I get a hardware upgrade to something that doesn't fall apart too?
[13:26] <czajkowski> Pendulum: work machine :)
[13:26] <czajkowski> calling it sheldon was also an option
[13:26] <Daviey> Pendulum: The best you can expect is a fsck.ext4
[13:28] <nigelb> kim0: setting up dev env depending on how you want to do it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases/OtherWays
[13:28] <nigelb> Gosh, these wiki pages look neat
[13:29] <nigelb> It was a mess when I was looking at them last
[13:29]  * nigelb looks for a name
[13:29]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[13:30] <dholbach> as you can see in the history, it's not only my work :)
[13:30] <nigelb> This one's history shows only you. :D
[13:31] <kim0> nigelb: thanks reading
[13:32] <nigelb> np :)
[13:33] <czajkowski> oh now I can't log on...
[13:33] <czajkowski> this may not have been a wise move
[13:34] <nigelb> oh dear
[13:35] <czajkowski> I also changed the homne dir name and renbooted it
[13:35] <czajkowski> still looking for one one
[13:35] <czajkowski> sigh
[13:44]  * czajkowski goes off to find a lucid cd again and re install 
[13:44] <nigelb> That would have sounded way cooler if s/lucid/lynx/ ;)
[13:45] <czajkowski> I dont say I'm running Karma when I'#m running Karmic or Meerkat for Maverick so why would I for lynx ?
[13:46] <nisshh> have you guys checked out Diaspora?
[13:51] <czajkowski> nope
[13:54] <nisshh> czajkowski, its like an open source facebook :)
[13:55] <nisshh> and with far better privacy :)
[13:55] <czajkowski> nisshh: I know what it is just you asked had we checked it out.
[13:55] <nisshh> czajkowski, oh ok :)
[13:55] <czajkowski> nisshh: I suspect it'll be like indenti.ca and probably never really take off and be full of many extremests
[13:56] <nisshh> hmmm, maybe :)
[14:14] <nigelb> Laters all!
[15:06] <czajkowski> dholbach: I'm sure if seif had looked at the LD he'd have seen the same information or even a quick google :(
[15:07] <dholbach> czajkowski, I commented on his blog post :)
[15:07] <czajkowski> aye
[15:07] <czajkowski> in the time it'd take to write the post, he could have googled :(
[15:08] <dholbach> it's no big deal
[15:08] <czajkowski> oh I know it's not
[15:08] <czajkowski> but I do wonder did he A) not know about the LD or B) just being lazy :s
[15:08] <dholbach> I'm sure there's loads of people who don't know
[15:10] <czajkowski> you think..
[15:10] <czajkowski> hmm
[15:10] <dholbach> can somebody please RT http://identi.ca/notice/59991059 and/or http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntudev/status/12462810374086656 ? :)
[15:11] <czajkowski> sure
[15:11] <dholbach> thanks muchly :)
[15:12] <czajkowski> done
[15:13] <czajkowski> dholbach: who looks after the installer process?
[15:13] <dholbach> czajkowski, ev and cjwatson
[15:13] <czajkowski> ohh
[15:13] <czajkowski> thanks
[15:14] <czajkowski> time to go poke him
[15:27] <dpm> if someone can RT, Chromium is now translatable in Launchpad \o/
[15:27] <dpm> http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntul10n/status/12833703831019520
[15:27] <dpm> http://identi.ca/notice/60062066
[15:58] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:58] <jono> hi dh
[15:58] <jono> hi dholbach
[15:58] <jono> hi all
[15:58] <dholbach> excited excited excited
[16:05] <jono> dholbach, excited?
[16:05] <jono> kim0, call?
[16:05] <kim0> jono: moment
[16:07] <kim0> jono: ok I'm ready
[16:07] <jono> kim0, cool one sec
[16:08] <czajkowski> dpm: done
[16:19] <czajkowski> Just submited my 1st talk for FOSDEM ever :)
[16:30] <duanedesign> czajkowski: nice!
[16:37] <nisshh> dholbach, your ustream is in a couple of hours isnt it?
[16:38] <nisshh> disregard that...
[16:39] <dpm> thanks czajkowski :)
[16:40] <czajkowski> dpm: np, anytime
[16:45] <duanedesign> czajkowski: which topic was the talk for?
[16:45] <czajkowski> UK govermnent and open source
[16:56] <czajkowski> whoever neil j patiel is they're on a  lot of bugs lately on lp :)
[16:57] <jcastro> jono: I could use a 2 minute skype call if you have room for me today
[16:57] <jono> jcastro, sure in a few mins ok?
[16:57] <jcastro> whenevs
[16:57] <jcastro> I've got a new skype setup too *crosses fingers*
[16:58] <czajkowski> duanedesign: full title : Is the UK Government backing Free Software?
[17:07] <jcastro> duanedesign: Ran into this in my reader, you might want to nick it for the screencast team: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/12/09/most-common-mistakes-in-screencasting/
[17:10] <duanedesign> thanks jcastro
[17:26] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[17:27] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize
[17:27] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.status:list=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status:list=FIXRELEASED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.sub
[17:27] <jcastro> scriber=&field.tag=bitesize&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&search=Search
[17:28] <Pici> Thats a nice link.
[17:31] <jcastro> http://goo.gl/t0yzf
[17:31] <jcastro> sorry!
[17:32] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/677594
[17:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 677594 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Workspace switcher useless with one workspace (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Low,Triaged]
[17:32] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/683466
[17:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 683466 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "There are 2 Quit menu options in Quicklist (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged]
[17:34] <jcastro> sorry don't mean to paste in random links without context, I was on skype with jono
[18:07] <greg-g> kim0: mind a PM on the cloud community site?
[18:07] <kim0> greg-g: sure np .. I'm just in another conversation right now
[18:08] <greg-g> kim0: no worries, no rush on this.
[19:47] <jcastro> man, my unity bugs folder gets absolutely SMOKED on thursdays
[20:01] <Technoviking> jcastro: safe to upgrade yet from python 2.7
[20:03] <Technoviking> jcastro: also, is there plans to update the name of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage to the ubuntu-gnome-desktop. It my be confusing after Unity is default
[20:04] <jcastro> Technoviking: I am holding off still, not sure what the status is.
[20:04] <jcastro> Technoviking: for #2 that's a didrocks question
[20:04] <jcastro> but I am sure they've thought of that
[20:04] <jcastro> Technoviking: did you see on the forum DBO says he has the "arrange stuff in my launcher" branch almost ready.
[20:05] <Technoviking> yup, I think Unity will be smoking by alpha 2
[21:30] <doctormo> Thoughts on my new poster? http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/en/material/poster/free-culture-poster
[21:54] <jono> doctormo, looks great!
[21:55] <doctormo> thanks jono :-)
[23:45] <AlanBell> GNU/Linux
[23:47] <AlanBell> doctormo: rather awesome poster
[23:48] <doctormo> Thanks AlanBell, I actually put GnuLinux delibratly, I hate that damn slash.
[23:49] <AlanBell> not a fan of that terminology either
[23:49] <AlanBell> however Linux is not a GNU project
[23:49] <AlanBell> so GNULinux is perhaps a bit misleading
[23:50]  * AlanBell just calls it Ubuntu
[23:50] <doctormo> I'm the same with a lot of these things, for some reason this one came out different.
[23:50] <AlanBell> GNU & Linux perhaps
[23:51] <doctormo> AlanBell: Gnu isn't a Linux project, nor is gnome, firefox or xorg... yet we're all in a bit of a thing about what to call things.