[01:37] Technoviking, around? [01:39] jono: Idle 1 day 3 hours [01:40] aha [02:10] hello czajkowski [02:12] czajkowski: my first run at the CoC signing screencast http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/screencasts/ [02:29] duanedesign: hmm, CoC signing, doesn't that require a gpg key? [02:29] DoctorMO: did last I checked [02:29] (which was admittedly a little over a year ago when I signed the CoC) [02:30] It's just we have a fairly poor story for gpg keys... it still needs fixing. [02:30] It indeed does, which is what makes it a little complicated. [02:32] Pendulum: yeah, I had to create another launchpad account so i could do the screencast. [02:33] i also had to upload another key to the keyserver and create an email address because i didnt want another key attached to my email/name [02:34] you only get one shot on the screencast too. You cant unsign the CoC to redo the screencast. [02:44] Morning all [02:53] nigelb: hello! [02:55] hiya nigelb [02:56] \o/ [03:01] duanedesign: Don't forget to upload that revocation certificate if you aren't going to be using that key [03:03] I thought one could unsign the CoC === DoctorMO is now known as doctormo [03:04] nigelb: Yep, you can deactivate a signature on the /+codeofconduct page [03:04] However, only an LP admin can reactivate a deactivated signature [03:05] oh, okay [03:07] ooh, interesting http://www.neary-consulting.com/index.php/2010/12/08/curing-shy-developer-syndrome/ [07:36] * jussi LOL's at 6x keybuck... :D [07:49] * nigelb thinks its more than 6x now [07:49] At leats that's one fine way to drive the point home :p [07:55] Hey morning folks [07:55] * kim0 waves [07:57] Morning kim0 [07:57] nigelb: How is it going for ya [07:58] kim0: not all great. A sprained ankle seems to be my highlight today [07:59] nigelb: ew [07:59] how did you get that [08:00] kim0: Accident on Sunday. I escaped with a few scratches and a contustion to lower back [08:00] the sprained ankle seems to be part of that package [08:00] yeah .. sorry to hear [08:00] It doesn't hurt, just swollen :) [08:17] good morning everyone [08:19] duanedesign: whoo [08:19] Aloha folks [08:19] hey czajkowski [08:20] dpm: czajkowski aloha indeed o/ :) [08:21] hey kim0, did you have a nice day off? [08:21] dpm: Yeah it was nice .. how about you [08:22] kim0, nice too. We drove up north to visit the Basque Country - we didn't have much luck with the weather, but it was fun [08:22] dpm: sounds awesome [08:23] dpm: are you getting lots of snow too [08:24] kim0, not right now. In the north we did see snow, but in Valencia it's still too warm (~14°C right now) [08:24] bah! i cant run Unity in 11.04 :( [08:25] dpm: Yeah .. that's what I'm talking about :) thought everyone was getting snow like dholbach ;) [08:26] yeah, I've heard it's pretty cold up there. But we have to wait for dholbach to log in - then we can remind him :P [08:28] lol [08:31] good morning! [08:34] Aha, talk about snow and dholbach is here :p [08:34] Good Morning Daniel :) [08:35] hey nigelb [08:36] morning dholbach! [08:36] hola dpm [08:39] looks like even Ubuntu will force me to upgrade my hardware now :( [08:45] nisshh: New feature :p [08:45] dholbach: hey morning o/ [08:45] nigelb, new feature? [08:46] hey kim0 [08:46] nisshh: yeah, identifies bad hardware and forces you to buy new ones :P [08:46] dholbach: I was just envying your snow hehe [08:46] kim0, I'm looking outside and it's very very white :) [08:46] nigelb, hah! :) [08:46] dholbach: I envy your snow too [08:47] nigelb, i consider my hardware old not bad :) [08:47] :) damnit .. it's too freaking sunny here 20C duh [08:47] nigelb, mind you this is 8 years old now :) [08:47] kim0, its a lovely 27 C here atm :) [08:47] 27 here too [08:47] -2°C [08:47] wow [08:48] hehe [08:48] Global weather report [08:48] But I wish it were -2 here :( [08:48] there you have it [08:48] heh [08:48] we never get snow in australia :) [08:48] lowest it gets is about 2-3 C [08:48] * nigelb crosses australia off from '50 places to see before I die' :p [08:48] and thats considered a really cold winter [08:48] nigelb, we have our perks :) [08:48] haha [08:49] nigelb, you wont get better fishing/snorkelling anywhere else :) [08:49] and now i sound like a travel agent :) [08:50] heh [08:53] Morning internet! [08:53] hey popey :) [08:53] Morning caveman :p [13:11] daft question time folks :( if a laptop was set up with a computer name and you needed to change that, where do I change it ? [13:12] czajkowski, is this an ubuntu or windows question? because im not even sure its possible to have a "computer name" on ubuntu [13:14] czajkowski: "gksudo gedit /etc/hostname" [13:19] Ubuntu [13:19] czajkowski: did you try that/ [13:19] !hostname [13:19] Use hostname to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. [13:19] just doing it now [13:20] dholbach: howdy .. do we have any pages on fixing FTBFS .. like how to setup a dev env and the like [13:20] ah, i forgot about the hostname [13:22] thanks done [13:22] kim0, http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/guide/getting-set-up.html [13:22] supose I should reboot to take effect?| [13:22] You shouldn't have to. [13:22] terminal and memenue still shows old name [13:22] did you try new terminal? [13:23] yup [13:23] I guess then restart required [13:23] kim0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix should help too (I hope to rewrite it soon) [13:24] kim0: are you looking for how to set up pbuilder env? [13:24] dholbach: nigelb Daviey mentioned a few server packages are breaking for natty .. List at http://tinyurl.com/server-ftbfs [13:24] whoo reboot fixes it [13:24] now Penny is up and running :) [13:25] so I was just interested to understand how to begin fixing that .. [13:25] czajkowski: if you actually call it Penny often around me there's going to be some confusion [13:25] * Daviey reboots Pendulum [13:25] lol [13:25] kim0, if you run into any stumbling blocks, let me know [13:26] Daviey: do I get a hardware upgrade to something that doesn't fall apart too? [13:26] Pendulum: work machine :) [13:26] calling it sheldon was also an option [13:26] Pendulum: The best you can expect is a fsck.ext4 [13:28] kim0: setting up dev env depending on how you want to do it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases/OtherWays [13:28] Gosh, these wiki pages look neat [13:29] It was a mess when I was looking at them last [13:29] * nigelb looks for a name [13:29] * nigelb hugs dholbach [13:30] as you can see in the history, it's not only my work :) [13:30] This one's history shows only you. :D [13:31] nigelb: thanks reading [13:32] np :) [13:33] oh now I can't log on... [13:33] this may not have been a wise move [13:34] oh dear [13:35] I also changed the homne dir name and renbooted it [13:35] still looking for one one [13:35] sigh [13:44] * czajkowski goes off to find a lucid cd again and re install [13:44] That would have sounded way cooler if s/lucid/lynx/ ;) [13:45] I dont say I'm running Karma when I'#m running Karmic or Meerkat for Maverick so why would I for lynx ? [13:46] have you guys checked out Diaspora? [13:51] nope [13:54] czajkowski, its like an open source facebook :) [13:55] and with far better privacy :) [13:55] nisshh: I know what it is just you asked had we checked it out. [13:55] czajkowski, oh ok :) [13:55] nisshh: I suspect it'll be like indenti.ca and probably never really take off and be full of many extremests [13:56] hmmm, maybe :) [14:14] Laters all! [15:06] dholbach: I'm sure if seif had looked at the LD he'd have seen the same information or even a quick google :( [15:07] czajkowski, I commented on his blog post :) [15:07] aye [15:07] in the time it'd take to write the post, he could have googled :( [15:08] it's no big deal [15:08] oh I know it's not [15:08] but I do wonder did he A) not know about the LD or B) just being lazy :s [15:08] I'm sure there's loads of people who don't know [15:10] you think.. [15:10] hmm [15:10] can somebody please RT http://identi.ca/notice/59991059 and/or http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntudev/status/12462810374086656 ? :) [15:11] sure [15:11] thanks muchly :) [15:12] done [15:13] dholbach: who looks after the installer process? [15:13] czajkowski, ev and cjwatson [15:13] ohh [15:13] thanks [15:14] time to go poke him [15:27] if someone can RT, Chromium is now translatable in Launchpad \o/ [15:27] http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntul10n/status/12833703831019520 [15:27] http://identi.ca/notice/60062066 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:58] hey jono [15:58] hi dh [15:58] hi dholbach [15:58] hi all [15:58] excited excited excited [16:05] dholbach, excited? [16:05] kim0, call? [16:05] jono: moment [16:07] jono: ok I'm ready [16:07] kim0, cool one sec [16:08] dpm: done [16:19] Just submited my 1st talk for FOSDEM ever :) [16:30] czajkowski: nice! [16:37] dholbach, your ustream is in a couple of hours isnt it? [16:38] disregard that... [16:39] thanks czajkowski :) [16:40] dpm: np, anytime [16:45] czajkowski: which topic was the talk for? [16:45] UK govermnent and open source [16:56] whoever neil j patiel is they're on a lot of bugs lately on lp :) [16:57] jono: I could use a 2 minute skype call if you have room for me today [16:57] jcastro, sure in a few mins ok? [16:57] whenevs [16:57] I've got a new skype setup too *crosses fingers* [16:58] duanedesign: full title : Is the UK Government backing Free Software? [17:07] duanedesign: Ran into this in my reader, you might want to nick it for the screencast team: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/12/09/most-common-mistakes-in-screencasting/ [17:10] thanks jcastro [17:26] alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! [17:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize [17:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.status:list=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status:list=FIXRELEASED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.sub [17:27] scriber=&field.tag=bitesize&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&search=Search [17:28] Thats a nice link. [17:31] http://goo.gl/t0yzf [17:31] sorry! [17:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/677594 [17:32] Launchpad bug 677594 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Workspace switcher useless with one workspace (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Low,Triaged] [17:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/683466 [17:32] Launchpad bug 683466 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "There are 2 Quit menu options in Quicklist (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged] [17:34] sorry don't mean to paste in random links without context, I was on skype with jono [18:07] kim0: mind a PM on the cloud community site? [18:07] greg-g: sure np .. I'm just in another conversation right now [18:08] kim0: no worries, no rush on this. [19:47] man, my unity bugs folder gets absolutely SMOKED on thursdays [20:01] jcastro: safe to upgrade yet from python 2.7 [20:03] jcastro: also, is there plans to update the name of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage to the ubuntu-gnome-desktop. It my be confusing after Unity is default [20:04] Technoviking: I am holding off still, not sure what the status is. [20:04] Technoviking: for #2 that's a didrocks question [20:04] but I am sure they've thought of that [20:04] Technoviking: did you see on the forum DBO says he has the "arrange stuff in my launcher" branch almost ready. [20:05] yup, I think Unity will be smoking by alpha 2 [21:30] Thoughts on my new poster? http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/en/material/poster/free-culture-poster [21:54] doctormo, looks great! [21:55] thanks jono :-) [23:45] GNU/Linux [23:47] doctormo: rather awesome poster [23:48] Thanks AlanBell, I actually put GnuLinux delibratly, I hate that damn slash. [23:49] not a fan of that terminology either [23:49] however Linux is not a GNU project [23:49] so GNULinux is perhaps a bit misleading [23:50] * AlanBell just calls it Ubuntu [23:50] I'm the same with a lot of these things, for some reason this one came out different. [23:50] GNU & Linux perhaps [23:51] AlanBell: Gnu isn't a Linux project, nor is gnome, firefox or xorg... yet we're all in a bit of a thing about what to call things.