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| djalterego | Anyone know? | 02:49 |
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| jk- | smb: none/srv/media/musicaufsro,br:/srv/media/music=rw:/home/jessica/music=ro:/home/jk/music=ro0 0 | 09:12 |
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| manjo | apw, ping | 11:39 |
| manjo | apw, interested in having lunch outside ? | 11:39 |
| manjo | apw, tired of sandwitches | 11:39 |
| jjohansen | manjo: ugh, not the sandwiches again | 11:41 |
| manjo | apw, was wondering if I can drag you to coriander for lunch | 11:42 |
| manjo | jjohansen, yeah! now is 4 days in a row | 11:42 |
| apw | manjo, not hungry enough for such a large lunch | 11:42 |
| * jjohansen thinks starving is better than that | 11:42 | |
| apw | specially as we get free food tonight | 11:43 |
| apw | (i assume) | 11:43 |
| manjo | apw, hmm... was not thinking of large meal... | 11:43 |
| apw | going to a curry house is not likely to be a small meal | 11:43 |
| manjo | apw, ah | 11:44 |
| manjo | apw, is there a cafeteria downstairs ? | 11:44 |
| manjo | or outside ? | 11:44 |
| apw | manjo, no cafeteria that i know of | 11:44 |
| manjo | ah crap | 11:44 |
| apw | and bear in mind if the students are here, then we may not get in and out easily | 11:44 |
| manjo | s**t | 11:45 |
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| manjo | apw, http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/omnibook/index.php?title=Main_Page | 11:48 |
| manjo | apw, http://sourceforge.net/projects/omnibook/files/ is what I am pointing to | 11:48 |
| cking | http://www.visualcomplexity.com/vc/project_details.cfm?id=392&index=392&domain= - why Windows + IIS is more complex than Linux + apache | 11:56 |
| amitk | manjo: where are you guys? | 12:04 |
| amitk | manjo: london? | 12:04 |
| manjo | amitk, yep | 12:10 |
| manjo | amitk, are you in london for some reason as well ? | 12:11 |
| amitk | manjo: about to start vacations from next week in india | 12:15 |
| manjo | amitk, ah yes ... me too :) | 12:15 |
| cking | manjo, I'd like to take vacation, but I'm stacked up with work :-( | 12:41 |
| * manjo cracks the whip on cking | 12:41 | |
| manjo | cking, I need to take vacation and visit my mom, she had a lot of surgery this year | 12:48 |
| manjo | cking, so my vacation will feel more like work :) | 12:48 |
| hrw | hi | 12:57 |
| hrw | does someone here uses ftdi usb serial adapters with natty? | 12:58 |
| hrw | Linux home 2.6.37-7-generic #18-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 26 19:23:37 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 12:58 |
| hrw | [692402.488921] usb 2-6.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0 | 12:58 |
| hrw | but picocom says: FATAL: cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: Resource temporarily unavailable | 12:59 |
| hrw | even as root | 12:59 |
| cking | sigh | 13:04 |
| hrw | cking: ? | 13:04 |
| cking | just lots of issues to sort out today... | 13:08 |
| hrw | ah, happens | 13:13 |
| hrw | I am now wondering about 'will I boot 3 times to check kernel bug' or rather ignore it and resolder serial cable to not use usb-serial adapter | 13:14 |
| cking | serious hardware issues then? | 13:15 |
| hrw | no, kernel bug | 13:15 |
| hrw | my desktop has 7 normal serial ports but I lack 1-to-1 cables requred by newer boards | 13:15 |
| * cking reboots | 13:22 | |
| jeremyA | with kernel 2.6.32-26-server and kernel 2.6.34-020634-generic (installed from mainline ppa), I am experiencing frequent system hard hangs. This machine is a server without X installed. RAM has been verified good with memtest86+. kvm is running. nothing unusual shows up in the logfiles around the crashes. I'm absolutely stumped on this problem. Any tips for troubleshooting what I suspect is a kernel flaw? It ran for month | 13:58 |
| jeremyA | s on LTS 8.04.01 w/o any issues at all (no KVM under 8.04.01, but I was running vmware-server 1.0.6 and VirtualBox simultaenously). the 6 SATA disks report no errors via SMART. | 13:58 |
| jeremyA | (and when I say "ran for months" I mean "months of uptime" -- it actually ran 8.04 for a couple of years, rebooting only for kernel upgrades and power outages and such) | 13:59 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, thats not much to go on. Have you started a bug so we can at least have a look at your HW specifics? Use 'ubuntu-bug linux' | 14:00 |
| jeremyA | will do, thanks | 14:00 |
| jeremyA | would this bug best be categorized as "kernel config" "other" or "I don't know" ? I'm hesitant to use the last, since I'm betting that bucket fills with lots of poorly defined issues... | 14:03 |
| JFo | morning apw | 14:04 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, I haven't the faintest idea. What you _should_ put in the summary is a description of your workload, etc | 14:04 |
| jeremyA | will do, thanks | 14:04 |
| apw | JFo, moin | 14:05 |
| apw | JFo, hows the automatic generation of the page going | 14:05 |
| JFo | good, I fixed an oversight on my part in the statuses to search for | 14:06 |
| JFo | it wasn't getting the Triaged status | 14:06 |
| JFo | so I have a test run going now and then it should be done | 14:06 |
| JFo | I have a bash script written that runs all the possibilities then cats the results together for processing by the hot list script | 14:07 |
| JFo | and I tested the hot list script itself and it works well with the generated file | 14:07 |
| JFo | now the only bit to add is the manual portion | 14:07 |
| JFo | which just got a whole lot more non-trivial | 14:08 |
| JFo | :-/ | 14:08 |
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| smoser | tgardner, what would you want to do about comment 16 at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/659084 ? | 14:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 659084 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "2.6.35-22-virtual is missing nfs modules (affects: 14) (dups: 1) (heat: 94)" [High,Fix committed] | 14:24 |
| smoser | you want me to open a new bug requesting nfsd module also ? | 14:24 |
| tgardner | smoser, _still_ missing a module? | 14:25 |
| smoser | yeah. nfs client works, server no | 14:25 |
| tgardner | smoser, drat. yes, open a new bug and assign me to it | 14:25 |
| smoser | i hvaen't verified that, just trusting the comment | 14:25 |
| smoser | actually... your grep verifies no nfsd.ko | 14:26 |
| tgardner | smoser, well, I was focused on client | 14:26 |
| smoser | right. | 14:26 |
| jeremyA | tgardner: thank you for your advice. I have filed bug 688068 :) | 14:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 688068 in linux (Ubuntu) "lucid system randomly locks up, does not recover (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688068 | 14:40 |
| JFo | apw, doing a manual run of the report now to verify the results | 14:40 |
| JFo | after this, the cron job is set so it should run regularly | 14:41 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, hmm, vintage hardware. there are a couple of possibilities. I'd start by booting with nomsi, then try noacpi. | 14:44 |
| smoser | tgardner, bug 688070 | 14:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 688070 in linux (Ubuntu) "-virtual kernel missing nfsd module (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688070 | 14:46 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, just saw that you've already tried noacpi. | 14:48 |
| jeremyA | what does nomsi do? | 14:49 |
| jeremyA | an athlon64 X2 5400+ is vintage hardware? I'm getting old... | 14:49 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, it changes the way interrupts are serviced on your e1000e NIC. It might also affect the r8169 (but I can't remember for sure) | 14:50 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, if you were running Hardy, then its vintage :) | 14:50 |
| tgardner | smoser, I just verified that ccache isn't working worth a dang under natty. | 14:55 |
| tgardner | cache hit (direct) 37 | 14:55 |
| tgardner | cache hit (preprocessed) 42 | 14:55 |
| tgardner | cache miss 66188 | 14:55 |
| tgardner | after 2 identical passes | 14:55 |
| smoser | tgardner, i did a complile with gcc -E (taking a line from the log) | 14:55 |
| jeremyA | tgardner do you want me to boot on the mainline kernel with nomsi or the 2.6.32-26-server kernel? And should I include noacpi with the nomsi, or is that unnecessary since noacpi by itself has not been helpful? | 14:55 |
| smoser | and didn't see any thing in the output that was an obvious time stamp | 14:55 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, boot 2.6.32-26-server with just nomsi | 14:56 |
| jeremyA | roger. | 14:56 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, please report your results in the bug as I'm not always around on IRC | 14:56 |
| jeremyA | tgardner do you have a preferred clocksource? I've been avoiding tsc since I got "clocksource unstable" logged a few times? | 14:57 |
| jeremyA | tgardner will do | 14:57 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, let it choose the clocksource. we'll try to keep the minimum number of variables. | 14:57 |
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| jeremyA | tgardner: I will boot with just nomsi then, thanks | 14:58 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, as smb just pointed out to me, its 'pci=nomsi' | 14:59 |
| jeremyA | tgardner: thanks for the catch :) | 14:59 |
| hrw | jeremyA: check also 'nolapic noapic' args | 15:32 |
| jeremyA | hrw: won't that disable SMP? | 15:32 |
| hrw | jeremyA: check does it works - it could help to limit possible sources of bug | 15:33 |
| hrw | jeremyA: I would also check maverick and maybe karmic kernels | 15:33 |
| jeremyA | hrw: can I install the maverick kernels w/o updating the rest of the OS, or should I just do a dist-upgrade? | 15:33 |
| hrw | jeremyA: grab just kernels | 15:34 |
| jeremyA | hrw: from the mainline repos? or elsewhere? | 15:34 |
| hrw | jeremyA: and also worth maybe bios update | 15:34 |
| hrw | jeremyA: mailine repos | 15:34 |
| jeremyA | hrw: I have a flash drive with the latest BIOS waiting for use here...if it crashes with nomsi enabled, I'll flash the BIOS and try nomsi again | 15:34 |
| hrw | jeremyA: you have 02/05/2008 bios and there were few releases in meantime | 15:35 |
| jeremyA | hrw: only 2, and the most recent is marked "beta" | 15:43 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, you can install a Maverick kernel as a backport, e.g., 'apt-get install linux-image-server-lts-backport-maverick' | 15:44 |
| jeremyA | tgardner: thank you! | 15:44 |
| tgardner | jeremyA, you can also get Natty kernels from https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa | 15:45 |
| \sh | guys, the drbd module should be somewhere in the kernel packages of lucid, right? | 16:00 |
| tgardner | \sh, I think thats an external driver | 16:05 |
| \sh | tgardner: just discussing the mess with ivoks ;) | 16:05 |
| hrw | bye | 16:05 |
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| vish | hi, for bug #652934 , seems everything is OK for Uploading to maverick-proposed. the upstream commits were tested on both the bugs and no one has a problem with the commits on ap-w's kernel, how can we get this scheduled for the next -proposed upload and then to -updates? | 16:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 652934 in linux (Ubuntu) "[RV515] Guest session causes screen to flicker violently and session is unusable (affects: 2) (heat: 73)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652934 | 16:18 |
| vish | ..we can revert the earlier patch too. | 16:19 |
| tgardner | vish, you should hassle apw to release his SRU patch | 16:24 |
| apw | tgardner, huh | 16:24 |
| vish | :) | 16:24 |
| apw | tgardner, i see you pushed that NX fix ... but NX is currently reverted anyhow | 16:24 |
| tgardner | apw, this is the new tip fix | 16:24 |
| apw | right, but the fix won't do anything in the sense that the NX module code is not in the kernel anyhow | 16:25 |
| apw | as the whole thing was causing all sorts of issues | 16:25 |
| apw | we did that just before A1# | 16:26 |
| tgardner | apw, hmm, how did it apply? I didn't look at it very closely | 16:26 |
| smb | Thats why there are reverts of reverts | 16:26 |
| smb | (I mean in the pull request) | 16:26 |
| apw | tgardner, it applies in existing code, not in the NX code itself | 16:26 |
| apw | well reverts of reverts make no sense | 16:26 |
| apw | we should just re-cherry the patches | 16:26 |
| tgardner | alright, lemme take a close look | 16:26 |
| * apw goes back to updating the delta | 16:27 | |
| apw | tgardner, i am planning to upload today is there anything other than the NX you think is pending | 16:29 |
| tgardner | apw, nfsd in -virtual, and smb's mount fix | 16:29 |
| smb | not exactly mine. just being the messenger ;) | 16:29 |
| tgardner | smb, well, you spent a lot of time finding it | 16:30 |
| apw | tgardner, if you sort out the NX bits i'll do the other two | 16:30 |
| tgardner | apw, k | 16:31 |
| smb | tgardner, I spent a lot of time looking for that. But annoyingly upstream took just half a day to actually spot it and have a patch. *gah* | 16:31 |
| apw | smb finding it is the hard bit, almost always | 16:32 |
| JFo | <-lunch | 16:32 |
| smb | Yeah, at least I was able to have it relatively well isolated to the umount call. Just was looking for a race when the was a access out of bounds | 16:33 |
| apw | tgardner, ok i've pulled both of those in and pushed out master-next | 16:35 |
| apw | tgardner, you doing the NX patches or shall i | 16:35 |
| tgardner | apw, I'm a bit confused about how the NX emulation patches are related to making modules RONX? | 16:36 |
| apw | tgardner, want me to look at the pull then ? i am conflating some amount of NX wording ... there is module NX and NX emulation and they don't really overlap | 16:39 |
| tgardner | apw, sure, go ahead | 16:40 |
| tgardner | AFAICT it looks right | 16:40 |
| apw | ack | 16:41 |
| bjf | apw, are you at the sprint today? | 16:46 |
| apw | bjf | 16:46 |
| apw | yep | 16:46 |
| apw | i brought up persistant results, and they recon they can do that | 16:46 |
| apw | need to ask about security testing though | 16:47 |
| tgardner | GrueMaster, did you notice that linux-ti-omap4 2.6.35-903.19 was promoted to -updates ? I won't be able to get Natty into the archive until I figure out a tools issue (binutils) | 16:48 |
| GrueMaster | ok, thanks. I was worried that it had been dropped. | 16:48 |
| tgardner | GrueMaster, "it" being Natty? | 16:49 |
| GrueMaster | no, maverick. | 16:49 |
| GrueMaster | TI wanted that fixed a while ago. | 16:49 |
| GrueMaster | And after the BeagleXM DVI patch issue, I was concerned. But thanks for making sure the patch made it through the gauntlet. | 16:50 |
| tgardner | GrueMaster, np | 16:51 |
| \sh | hmmm...could someone verify something for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/541527/ <- this looks wrong, when I have a running -server kernel | 17:00 |
| bjf | smb, have you seen anything about a 2.6.35 stable tree from Andi Kleen? | 17:00 |
| \sh | (on lucid that is) | 17:00 |
| smb | bjf, I seen him announce it and today some question of him about a patch. But I have not looked to where to find it. | 17:01 |
| tgardner | \sh, it looks like open-vm-dkms might have some incorrect package dependencies. | 17:02 |
| smb | It seems to pull in the headers from -rt | 17:02 |
| \sh | Depends: dkms, gcc, make, linux-headers | linux-headers-virtual | 17:03 |
| apw | smb, i had assumed the trees would remain in stable user... perhaps not | 17:03 |
| \sh | apt-get install linux-headers -> gives me a list of header flavours | 17:03 |
| \sh | apt-get install linux-headers-virtual give me the right headers for -server | 17:04 |
| smb | apw, I was not sure from the announcement. Could be both | 17:04 |
| apw | smb, yeah as i say 'i assumed' but ... nothing is actually said is it | 17:04 |
| smb | apw, There is a lot left for assumption, yes. :) | 17:05 |
| \sh | tgardner: I checked now every dependency...and everything which pulls in linux-headers is correct with its assumption that I have a -server kernel..only open-vm-dkms is incorrect | 17:10 |
| tgardner | \sh, talk to the package maintainer? | 17:10 |
| \sh | tgardner: use the source, \sh is much better first, before I'm writing any bugreports ;) | 17:11 |
| tgardner | bjf, gimme a review on the nfsd patch for Maverick so I can get it into the pipeline for tomorrows pre-proposed build | 17:18 |
| bjf | tgardner, i did, it's in my sent folder but not on the mailing list yet, i acked it | 17:19 |
| tgardner | bjf, thanks | 17:19 |
| bjf | tgardner, how do you update your master-next branch in your personal "bare" git repo? i've just switched to using bare repos and fetching from origin I can handle but how do you "reset" a branch with what you fetched? | 17:30 |
| tgardner | bjf, not exactly sure what you're asking. I usually add a remote, e.g., rtg, so taht I can do a 'git push rtg +master-next', etc | 17:31 |
| hallyn_ | bjf: if you mean set the current branch, i just edit HEAD :) | 17:32 |
| bjf | tgardner, git://kernel.ubuntu.com/rtg/ubuntu-maverick.git is a bare repo, how do you update the master-next branch in it from the master repo? | 17:34 |
| bdmurray | JFo: you might want to look at rewriting titles for bugs like bug 654287 - there are quite a few like that | 17:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 654287 in linux (Ubuntu) "[STAGING] (affects: 1) (heat: 54)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654287 | 17:35 |
| tgardner | bjf, git fetch origin;git fetch origin master-next;git push rtg +master-next | 17:35 |
| * smb wonders where his replies on the ml are. Seems to be unwilling atm | 17:36 | |
| tgardner | bjf, umm, git fetch origin master-next; git reset --hard FETCH_HEAD, git push rtg +master-next | 17:37 |
| tgardner | smb, yeah, the list seems to be stalled | 17:37 |
| * bjf thinks his are the same wherever smb's are | 17:37 | |
| bjf | tgardner that doesn't work in a bare repo | 17:38 |
| tgardner | bjf, is your local working repo bare? | 17:39 |
| tgardner | the only bare repos that I have are on zinc | 17:39 |
| bjf | tgardner, no, but mine on zinc is, i think the first bit you mentioned "git fetch origin master-next" is right | 17:39 |
| tgardner | bjf, so I'm not sure what your problem is. maybe you could pastebin it? | 17:41 |
| bjf | tgardner, that's ok, i think i'm good for now | 17:42 |
| hallyn_ | is there a package i can ask a bug submitter to install which provides the debug symbols for the kernel so they can run 'crash'? | 18:18 |
| tgardner | hallyn_, linux-crashdump ? | 18:23 |
| hallyn_ | tgardner: cool, thanks. | 18:24 |
| tgardner | the debug packages might have to be manually installed. there is no meta package to track kernel versions | 18:24 |
| bjf | apw, is the sprint done for today? | 18:25 |
| tgardner | bjf, am using your 'Acked-by' in vain for 'Add nfsd to -virtual flavour' since it has yet to come through on the list, and I'm tired of waiting. | 18:37 |
| bjf | tgardner, please do | 18:37 |
| * tgardner --> lunch | 19:01 | |
| jj-afk | rebooting | 19:02 |
| plaur | i'm getting "BUG:soft lockup CPU#0 for 61s (kswapd)" continuously, after 10-30 minutes on an older Athlon64 system with 2.6.35 from Ubuntu 10.10; the older 2.6.32 works fine on the same system... any ideas? | 19:40 |
| plaur | the same 2.6.35 works fine on the netbook, though | 19:41 |
| pmatulis | anyone familiar with "NMI errors" upon bootup? Getting some strange results with this and the lucid lts-backport kernel | 20:26 |
| tgardner | pmatulis, you mean the backported maverick kernel? | 20:27 |
| pmatulis | tgardner: yeah | 20:27 |
| tgardner | pmatulis, do you see these errors with the native maverick kernel? | 20:27 |
| tgardner | I wanna make sure its not the toolset | 20:28 |
| pmatulis | tgardner: strange stuff. every second boot results in an unbootable system on HP Proliant G360 (12 boots tried) | 20:28 |
| pmatulis | tgardner: i haven't been able to test the native one (customer systems) | 20:28 |
| pmatulis | tgardner: and when downgraded to native lucid, another NMI error, but a reboot fixes it | 20:29 |
| pmatulis | tgardner: and then it's good for another 20 boots | 20:29 |
| tgardner | pmatulis, is the NMI fatal? | 20:29 |
| pmatulis | tgardner: indeed | 20:29 |
| tgardner | pmatulis, can you get them to run ubuntu-bug in order to collect some HW info ? | 20:31 |
| pmatulis | tgardner: yes, i am heading in that direction | 20:31 |
| pmatulis | tgardner: i don't think his system has internet yet (for some reason) | 20:31 |
| tgardner | pmatulis, do we have any of these in cert ? | 20:31 |
| * pmatulis checking | 20:32 | |
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