[07:43] <YoBoY> good morning
[08:31] <dholbach> good morning!
[10:22] <czajkowski> Aloha folks 
[10:33] <Tm_T> hiya
[10:34] <Tm_T> I tried searching from wiki.ubuntu.com, but didn't find, is there any user manual for loco directory?
[10:35] <dholbach> Tm_T, no, there isn't - what are you after?
[10:36] <Tm_T> dholbach: basicly how the team information is handled currently, and, if these translate strings would be used anywhere yet: https://translations.launchpad.net/loco-directory/trunk/+pots/loco-directory/fi/+translate?show=untranslated&start=10
[10:36] <dholbach> what kind of team information handled how?
[10:37] <dholbach> Tm_T, the page you just linked to (translations) seems like there are no translations entered at all?
[10:37] <dholbach>      (*) (no translation yet)
[10:39] <Tm_T> dholbach: yes, but if translated, where they would appear if at all
[10:39] <dholbach> hang on
[10:40] <dholbach> they are used if you merge teams
[10:40] <dholbach> (old unused entries in the db you can merge with your actual team)
[10:40] <Tm_T> right, so not priority for us (:
[10:42] <dholbach> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/annotate/head%3A/loco_directory/teams/utils.py#L5
[10:42] <Tm_T> dholbach: for example: does it get Team admins list directly from lp or is there separate interface to handle that kind of things
[10:43] <dholbach> from lp
[10:43] <dholbach> team admin, owner, but not contact (that's manual)
[10:43] <Tm_T> thanks, thought so too (:
[10:43] <Tm_T> ah, that is done how?
[10:44] <dholbach> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/annotate/head%3A/loco_directory/teams/management/commands/lpupdate.py
[10:44] <Tm_T> thanks a much
[10:45] <dholbach> de nada
[15:04] <cjohnston> dholbach: ping
[15:04] <dholbach> cjohnston, pong
[15:05] <cjohnston> mornin! question... when do strings becoming available for translation?
[15:05] <dholbach> when you push a new .pot file
[15:05] <cjohnston> if I commit code to trunk with changes to the .pot file, are they then available for translations?
[15:05] <dholbach> (update-template)
[15:06] <cjohnston> ok.. so we should update the template each time we change a string instead of only when we are ready to push out a new update to production?
[15:06] <dholbach> if you want to include translations of new strings, you better push the .pot file earlier
[15:07] <dholbach> so the new .po files can be integrated (import-translations)
[15:07] <cjohnston> if I make changes right now and push it to trunk, I should include the update-translations before pushing to trunk
[15:07] <dholbach> if you think it's important enough, sure, do it
[15:08] <cjohnston> it would just provide more time for translators to translate
[15:08]  * dholbach nods
[15:08] <cjohnston> ok.. cool.. ty
[15:14] <mhall119> so, can we say that you don't need up update translations when proposing a branch for merging, but the person who does the merge should update the template?
[15:15] <mhall119> having .pot changes in the merge proposals makes them larger than is necessary
[15:15] <mhall119> and sometimes leads to merge conflicts
[15:15] <cjohnston> works for me
[15:20] <cjohnston> mhall119: do you have any idea how to limit the selection to team members only?
[15:21] <cjohnston> selection list i guess
[15:22] <mhall119> you'll have to over-write the .choices in a Form definition
[15:22] <mhall119> see the TeamEventForm in ./events/forms.py
[15:32] <cjohnston> mhall119: see the news out of orlando this morning?
[15:33] <mhall119> cjohnston: about the deputy?
[15:33] <cjohnston> ya
[15:33] <mhall119> yeah, sad news
[15:33] <cjohnston> was my old station that ran it
[15:33] <mhall119> it's so stupid, I just don't understand it
[15:34] <cjohnston> yup
[15:34] <cjohnston> and then to go out cowardly like he did
[15:40] <cjohnston> somehow I cjohnston2'ed myself on my local install
[15:46] <mhall119> 2?
[15:47] <mhall119> surely one is enough
[15:47] <cjohnston> I guess I have to do it right
[15:47] <cjohnston> lol
[15:49] <cjohnston> making work for you mhall119 
[15:51] <mhall119> -1
[15:51] <cjohnston> its just reviews
[15:52] <cjohnston> but i do have a few bugs I want to assign you
[15:52] <cjohnston> lol
[15:52] <mhall119> assign all you want
[15:53] <mhall119> they'll go on the "todo" pile
[15:53] <cjohnston> lol
[15:53] <mhall119> but my free time for the next little bit is going to be devoted to xdg-launcher
[15:53] <cjohnston> theres a couple of the bugs that I think are beyond me
[15:53] <mhall119> nothing is beyond you
[15:53] <cjohnston> lol
[15:54] <cjohnston> I'll buy you dinner if you can mark all loco-directory bugs fix commited before 12/12/10
[15:55] <mhall119> that doesn't seem likely
[15:56] <cjohnston> lol
[15:56] <cjohnston> guess I can keep my wallet in my pocket
[15:56] <cjohnston> I already owe you lunch
[15:56] <mhall119> oh, it's almost time for dholbach's livestream
[15:57] <dholbach> yeah, I'm excited :-D
[15:57] <mhall119> what's the channel name?
[15:57] <cjohnston> whats it on?
[15:57] <dholbach> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ubuntu-development-with-daniel-holbach
[15:58] <cjohnston> I want to learn how to fix a unity bug
[15:58] <cjohnston> lol
[15:58] <mhall119> cjohnston: yeah, me too, can't let jamal have all the fun
[15:58] <cjohnston> I know
[15:59] <cjohnston> see if we can get FL to rock unity?
[15:59] <cjohnston> lol
[15:59] <mhall119> we already are
[15:59] <mhall119> it doesn't matter that jamalta's in California now, he's still Florida LoCo
[15:59] <cjohnston> he's ca now
[15:59] <cjohnston> lol
[15:59] <cjohnston> all his work are belong to us?
[16:00] <mhall119> you can take the hacker out of Florida, but you can't take the Florida out of the hacker
[16:00] <cjohnston> I believe thats trailor park
[16:00] <mhall119> I said "Florida", there's no need to be redundant
[16:00] <cjohnston> lol
[16:00] <czajkowski> am I going to have to seperate ye two 
[16:00] <cjohnston> got me a stump grinder comin by later
[16:01] <cjohnston> what did we do czajkowski 
[16:01] <cjohnston> other than me give him more work
[16:01] <cjohnston> lol
[16:01] <daker> \o/
[16:01] <cjohnston> daker: !!!
[16:01] <cjohnston> you can do some work too! lol
[16:02] <czajkowski> bah I need a bio
[16:02] <cjohnston> write me one too
[16:02] <mhall119> ustream starting, join!
[16:04] <cjohnston> QUESTION: did he get a hair cut?  lol
[16:05] <mhall119> wrong channel
[16:05] <mhall119>  /join -ustream #ubuntu-development-with-dani
[16:06] <cjohnston> I know
[16:06] <cjohnston> lol
[16:06] <cjohnston> I'm watching the press conference for last night
[16:09]  * mhall119 needs to write a blog post
[16:09] <cjohnston> ?
[16:12] <mhall119> about xdg-launcher
[16:12] <mhall119> my new project
[16:12] <daker> i saw it mhall119 
[16:13] <mhall119> XDG menus are complex
[16:13] <mhall119> daker: :)
[16:13] <mhall119> it's pretty cool so far, even if inflexible at the moment
[16:19] <daker> mhall119, how to use this command /join -ustream #ubuntu-development-with-dani ? i can't join 
[16:19] <mhall119> you need to connect to the ustream network
[16:19] <daker> ah
[16:19] <mhall119> then join #ubuntu-development-with-dani
[16:19] <daker> which is ?
[16:20] <mhall119> chat1.ustream.tv port 6667
[16:20] <mhall119> you'll need to register an account at ustream.tv first, I think, to let you identify yourself
[16:22] <daker> ok
[16:29] <cjohnston> mhall119: without a way to fix the child agenda items from all starting at 1, what do you think about removing the ability to have child agenda items
[16:30] <mhall119> we need to have child agenda items
[16:31] <mhall119> we can fix the numbering
[16:31] <cjohnston> ok
[16:58] <mhall119> dholbach: good show
[17:00] <dholbach> mhall119, thanks a lot for the flowers
[17:00] <dholbach> mhall119, it's sometimes a bit hard to estimate if you're going too fast, etc :)
[17:00] <mhall119> flowers?
[17:00] <dholbach> "compliment" :)
[17:00] <mhall119> oh, ok
[17:02] <mhall119> dholbach: I'd really like to get a walk-through on properly packaging python apps
[17:02] <mhall119> is there one already made?  If not, would you do a screencast of one?
[17:03] <mhall119> should have said "properly packaging python programs" for extra alliteration points
[17:03] <dholbach> haha, an alliteration acrobat
[17:04]  * mhall119 is all about alliteration
[17:04] <dholbach> :)
[17:04] <dholbach> I think the next videocast is going to be about fixing bugs and proposing the change for inclusion
[17:04] <dholbach> but yeah, I think we should definitely have one about packaging something from scratch
[17:05] <dholbach> although I'm still a bit unsure how to best do it - I'm not sure the way I did it today is suitable
[17:05] <dholbach> a screencast might be better
[17:06] <mhall119> yeah, I think that would be good
[17:06] <mhall119> will ustream do that?
[17:07] <dholbach> I'm not sure how that'd work
[17:07] <dholbach> I'll investigate
[17:07] <mhall119> I wonder if you could feed a copy of the X11 buffers into a fake webcam device, and tell ustream to use that
[17:07] <mhall119> sounds complicated though
[17:09] <dholbach> a little bit :)
[17:09] <dholbach> I'll see what I can do
[17:10] <mhall119> maybe not, there used to be a package called vloopback that did exactly that
[17:10]  * mhall119 loves Linux
[17:10] <dholbach> oh wow