| Pici | Hes just as random in PM. | 01:32 |
|---|---|---|
| Pici | Heads up. People asking about LOIC or payback should probably be directed at !illegal | 01:43 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, ZenGuy said: ubottu: 1GB is not really low memory | 01:54 |
| Pici | ;) | 02:10 |
| maco | Pici: we double banned! | 02:10 |
| Jordan_U | We ops have to ban together. | 02:12 |
| IdleOne | ha | 02:12 |
| * maco snorts | 02:13 | |
| * Pici groans | 02:13 | |
| IdleOne | punny, vewwy vewwy punny. | 02:14 |
| rww | So much lag >.> | 02:16 |
| Jordan_U | rww: Using irssi through ssh? | 02:17 |
| rww | Jordan_U: on a crap connection, yes. | 02:17 |
| * Pici sighs | 02:17 | |
| Pici | rww: That was someone who wasn't happy with me banning them earlier in -server | 02:20 |
| Pici | or ignoring their wildly random private messages | 02:20 |
| rww | Pici: iirc, they've PMed me for support before and I told them not to :\ | 02:20 |
| Pici | rww: not BitEncrypt, the person before that. | 02:21 |
| Pici | And people do that to me all the time. :( | 02:21 |
| rww | The person before that was connecting from dialup.ice.net. I personally suspect there's one troll on a dynamic IP that gets bored every so often. | 02:22 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, IdleOne said: jolicloud is <reply> Support for Jolicloud can be found at http://www.jolicloud.com/support | 02:46 |
| Jordan_U | Chase doesn't have Ubuntu (confirmed in PM, just jolicloud), so it doesn't make much sense to unquiet him in #ubuntu but at the same time I'm not sure this deserves a ban. Any suggestions for the best course of action? | 02:55 |
| IdleOne | does he show intentions of sticking to support | 02:55 |
| IdleOne | ? | 02:55 |
| IdleOne | /follwing guidelines | 02:56 |
| IdleOne | following* | 02:56 |
| IdleOne | if not leave him +q and he will get bored and leave | 02:56 |
| Jordan_U | IdleOne: It seems odd to ask since he doesn't have Ubuntu and doesn't appear at least to want to provide support rather than get it. But I guess I should ask anyway as a formality, right? | 02:57 |
| IdleOne | inform of the channel guidelines and ask if he is willing to follow them if not you will have no choice but to leave him muted | 02:58 |
| IdleOne | off topic is disruptive to those who are here for support..... | 02:58 |
| Myrtti | I still think that making wubi a supported method of installation was a bad idea | 04:56 |
| mneptok | And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Thou shalt not cause one operating system to lie with another: it is profane in the sight of the Lord. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down ... | 05:15 |
| mneptok | ... thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you. - Leviticus 18:21-26 | 05:15 |
| IdleOne | is that the KJ version? | 05:17 |
| mneptok | yes. little known fact ... members of King James' court were early MBR developers. | 05:18 |
| mneptok | you get what you pay for with translations. | 05:19 |
| mneptok | wait ... did i just call MBR developers homophobes? i didn't mean to. | 05:23 |
| IdleOne | you been drinking? | 05:23 |
| mneptok | nope. | 05:24 |
| mneptok | this is me sober. | 05:24 |
| IdleOne | hey we got 32cm of snow here. | 05:24 |
| mneptok | one storm? | 05:24 |
| IdleOne | not a storm flurries over a couple days | 05:24 |
| IdleOne | s/storm/storm,/ | 05:25 |
| mneptok | still pretty good, by .qc standards | 05:25 |
| mneptok | if that happened here the city would be paralyzed. | 05:25 |
| IdleOne | yeah, we are still getting a few cm over the next few days | 05:25 |
| mneptok | i think we have a total of 4 snow plows. all ox-drawn. | 05:26 |
| Myrtti | I, btw, have no idea how I can be relatively awake at this hour | 05:26 |
| IdleOne | naps | 05:27 |
| IdleOne | mneptok: want me to take some pics of plows and post them for you? | 05:28 |
| * tonyyarusso ships a few feet of snow down to mneptok, could use the giggles | 05:29 | |
| tonyyarusso | Snow plow with all the fixin's: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/d3/newsrels/08/12/Picture059.jpg | 05:32 |
| tonyyarusso | Common reason to be late for work: http://www.winterweather.state.mn.us/images/Plow_stay_back.jpg | 05:33 |
| Myrtti | errrrr https://launchpad.net/perfectbuntu ??? | 05:35 |
| tonyyarusso | And this is why we love Google Image Search: http://www.comixconnection.com/uploaded_images/DeerDeepSnow3-723533.jpg | 05:39 |
| tonyyarusso | Myrtti: this surprises you? | 05:39 |
| Myrtti | has anyone looked at any version of "perfectbuntu"? | 05:39 |
| tonyyarusso | First I've heard of it. | 05:40 |
| tonyyarusso | $10 says it's crap like all the rest though. | 05:40 |
| Myrtti | good grief I'm tired | 05:41 |
| * rww opens page, reads, "A handy bash script" and "Installs things", facepalms and closes page | 06:13 | |
| Myrtti | does anyone have enough brian activity to tell cliff__ to tone down in a way that he'd perhaps understand it? I can't think of anything | 06:14 |
| Myrtti | too late | 06:15 |
| Jordan_U | Myrtti: It'a amazing how much more brain activity it takes to op than to give support. | 06:17 |
| rww | Opping seems so much harder when you're actually an op :[ | 06:17 |
| Myrtti | Jordan_U: it's the effort of not resorting to "OY SHUT UP YOU NIMWITS AND STICK TO THE TOPIC" and being civil that takes the majority of brain CPU for me sometimes | 06:18 |
| IdleOne | I think we need to add "OY SHUT UP YOU NIMWITS AND STICK TO THE TOPIC" to the topic in #u | 06:24 |
| IdleOne | and -ot | 06:24 |
| IdleOne | wait, -ot has no "topic" | 06:25 |
| rww | Sure it does. Tomorrow's topic is "What is your favourite spelling of "favorite"?" | 06:27 |
| rww | I am so droll. | 06:27 |
| IdleOne | haha | 06:28 |
| IdleOne | I like that | 06:28 |
| rww | Oh, also, I'm keeping track of +e in #ubuntu and copying ones that aren't removed properly by FloodBots to LjL. So if anyone else tends to remove stale +e entries, take a vacation on that for a little while :) | 06:30 |
| IdleOne | you got it | 06:31 |
| Myrtti | rww: banforward? ;-) | 06:57 |
| rww | Myrtti: can't, -cn isn't +F | 06:57 |
| rww | That was my thought though, yes. | 06:57 |
| Myrtti | awww | 06:57 |
| rww | Relatedly, "Continuing to speak in another language: kick+forward to loco channel" ~ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines is neither common practice nor generally possible. Someone want to update it with what's generally actually done? (+q? I don't know.) | 06:58 |
| Flannel | rww: We try and do that when possible, only after it's apparent they won't get the picture. Otherwise, you just have to stop them from disrupting #u | 07:02 |
| Flannel | (and when doing that, you kick, not remove, so any auto-rejoin scripts trigger and rejoin them... to their language channel) | 07:03 |
| Flannel | But only rarely does it get to that point | 07:03 |
| Myrtti | he seems not to get the point | 07:07 |
| Flannel | rww: something else you can try is to join [language channel] and ask someone to join #u and "fly them in" | 07:07 |
| rww | hrm. could banforward them to -irc and try there. less disruptive. | 07:09 |
| * rww facepalms | 07:11 | |
| rww | or #ubuntu-hk, which has ops on ubuntu member cloak. That might work | 07:18 |
| rww | s/hk/tw/ | 07:19 |
| rww | alrighty, now they're there. let's see what happens. | 07:24 |
| rww | ... someone said /join #ubuntu-cn and they /quit. roflfacepalm | 07:28 |
| === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs | ||
| rww | http://rww.name/arvut.txt :| | 08:25 |
| jussi | rww: have you had a word? | 08:44 |
| rww | I said something along the lines of it not being a good idea last month when he was doing it a few times a day. If he starts up again, I guess I'll have to be more pointed about it. | 08:48 |
| mneptok | @login | 09:01 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 09:01 |
| Jordan_U | So much misinformation in #ubuntu, too tired to correct all of it... | 10:16 |
| cdbs | Jordan_U: :( | 10:23 |
| cdbs | Channel keeping, especially #ubuntu, involvs the use of eagle eyes :) | 10:26 |
| cdbs | yesterday someone flooded, and no one noticed that someone in between the flood lines had also said the f word in a bad context | 10:27 |
| cdbs | had to /kb | 10:27 |
| cdbs | around 3 minutes after the flood :( | 10:27 |
| jussi | cdbs: did you talk to the person first? generally its better to have a chat with them before kicking/banning, especially if they are not continually doing it. | 10:29 |
| cdbs | jussi: his exact sentence was: 'fuck you all and Ubuntu' or something similar | 10:29 |
| cdbs | I remember having seen Pici kb a person for saying: Ubuntu f***ing sucks on #ubuntu | 10:30 |
| cdbs | around a month ago | 10:30 |
| jussi | cdbs: ahh, a remove in the first instance is best there - they dont usually come back. If is just someone getting grumbly because somethign doesnt work, having a quick pm about their language can be helpful | 10:32 |
| cdbs | jussi: as I said, that was his first sentence. okay, will take care of it from the next time onwards | 10:32 |
| maco | jussi: could you look at the logs from #ubuntu-us-dc the last couple days and tell me if you also find this new visitor a bit odd? | 10:48 |
| jussi | maco: link? | 10:50 |
| jussi | (Im on limited time | 10:50 |
| jussi | ) | 10:50 |
| Myrtti | he is | 10:51 |
| Myrtti | also probably in early teens | 10:51 |
| maco | http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2010/12/09/%23ubuntu-us-dc.html | 10:51 |
| maco | has been joining and just asks for people to talk on skype every time, today with a "so what are you wearing?" which really O_o | 10:52 |
| Myrtti | perhaps you need to really spell it out for him, although the channel is quite low traffic to serve as a training place for irc etiquette | 10:53 |
| maco | can locobots do the ubottu factoids? | 10:54 |
| maco | like, can i call !guidelines in there? | 10:54 |
| cdbs | maco: yup | 10:54 |
| cdbs | maco: loco bots are synced every 24 hours | 10:55 |
| maco | ok | 10:55 |
| cdbs | I mean, their factoid DB is synced | 10:55 |
| cdbs | maco: Which loco team are you in? | 10:55 |
| maco | dc | 10:55 |
| maco | and soon to be pa | 10:55 |
| cdbs | :o | 10:56 |
| cdbs | Us teams :) | 10:56 |
| maco | yes | 10:57 |
| jpds | maco: Call their bluff. | 11:04 |
| Myrtti | oh lord | 11:55 |
| Myrtti | actually, now that I think of it | 11:57 |
| Myrtti | he was banevading. | 11:59 |
| Myrtti | is chouchou cheating on a test or what is he asking? | 12:12 |
| Tm_T | something like that it seems | 12:15 |
| jussi | ubuntu tweak... is that yeat another automatix clone? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1641474 :( | 12:15 |
| Myrtti | jussi: you're out of touch, my friend | 12:16 |
| Myrtti | ubuntu tweak was the helper app that was discussed before I had my hiatus and popey had talked to the developer | 12:16 |
| jussi | Myrtti: no, just confused, I never remember all the different ones | 12:16 |
| Myrtti | the semilegitimate one | 12:16 |
| jussi | oh. so it doesnt have --force-yes ? | 12:17 |
| Tm_T | keeps messing things up though, AFAIR | 12:17 |
| Myrtti | I'd be more worried about Perfectbuntu 5 | 12:18 |
| Tm_T | well that's the name I haven't heard of | 12:18 |
| Tm_T | s/the/a/ possibly | 12:18 |
| Myrtti | I heard about it yesterday | 12:19 |
| Myrtti | or day before | 12:19 |
| Myrtti | "Is Ubuntu simple enough for newbies? Honestly, I think it is, but with the disclaimer that having a managed solution using Ubuntu is always going to be “easier”. That being said, take one solution picking up where Automatix and EasyUbuntu left off. This solution is a bash script called Perfectbuntu." | 12:20 |
| Myrtti | sudo apt-get -y -m install ubuntu-desktop | 12:24 |
| Myrtti | :-| | 12:24 |
| jussi | another one.... | 12:25 |
| Myrtti | # Install gksudo (which is required to run Perfectbuntu 5.0+ on KDE) | 12:26 |
| Myrtti | echo -n "gksudo was not found, trying to install gksudo." >> $LOGFILE | 12:26 |
| Myrtti | kdesudo --comment "$GKMSG" "apt-get --force-yes -y -f -m install gksu" | 12:26 |
| Myrtti | BRILLIANT | 12:27 |
| Tm_T | aaand why they cannot use kdesudo then? (: | 12:29 |
| Tm_T | not to mention, installing gksu, not gksudo | 12:30 |
| Myrtti | apt-get --force-yes -y -f -m -q install "w64codecs" | 12:30 |
| Myrtti | "merry christmas" | 12:31 |
| Myrtti | popey: wth, that website has Ubuntu UK podcast logo on the bottom | 12:35 |
| Myrtti | "Perfectbuntu is mainly programmed by Robbie Ferguson of Category5 Technology TV." | 12:36 |
| Pici | Ugh. Has that person never heard of doing functions in bash? | 12:56 |
| Pici | Besides the fact that its bound to break your system, its a great example of what not to do programmatically. DRY please. | 12:57 |
| Pici | slow today. | 14:29 |
| LjL | Grumpici | 15:07 |
| IdleOne | Morning :/ | 15:08 |
| * IdleOne sips coffee and deletes emails | 15:08 | |
| topyli | perfectubuntu? do we need another factoid? | 15:13 |
| topyli | "just say no" | 15:13 |
| LjL | topyli: you seen my repo? | 15:14 |
| topyli | LjL: i took alook with a browser when whe last talked about it | 15:15 |
| LjL | topyli: ah but that was just a test, and it didn't work from F-Droid. now it's public, and has 150 programs compiled. http://ljl.byethost24.com/fdroid | 15:16 |
| topyli | great! | 15:16 |
| LjL | topyli: you will need to upgrade F-Droid to the latest version to use it, though (but it also has a web interface) | 15:17 |
| LjL | topyli: the bug where it crashed after installing apps was also fixed | 15:17 |
| LjL | meh, i'm really haunted by this GoPro camera | 15:18 |
| LjL | since i visited their website, to give it as a present to a friend, now every single ad i see on the web is about it | 15:19 |
| topyli | :) | 15:19 |
| LjL | wait | 15:19 |
| LjL | this is not #Ubuntu-offtopic is it? | 15:19 |
| * LjL blushes | 15:19 | |
| topyli | nope :) | 15:19 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, IdleOne said: googleearth is <reply> Google Earth is available, for free (only as in price). Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >> or search for googleearth-package using the Software Center or Synaptic package manager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth . See !repos for enabling Multiverse repository. | 15:30 |
| LjL | !googleearth | 15:30 |
| ubottu | Google Earth is available, for free (only as in price). Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >> or search for googleearth-package using the Software Center or Synaptic package manager. See !repos for enabling Multiverse repository. | 15:30 |
| IdleOne | just added the link to wiki, wiki has been edited. | 15:31 |
| LjL | oh if there's a wiki, i'd make it more prominent, like this | 15:31 |
| IdleOne | google-earth package is available in all supported version in multiverse | 15:31 |
| IdleOne | errr googleearth-package | 15:31 |
| LjL | !no googleearth is <reply> Google Earth is available as the package "googleearth-package" in !Multiverse. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth | 15:32 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, LjL said: !no googleearth is <reply> Google Earth is available as the package "googleearth-package" in !Multiverse. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth | 15:32 |
| IdleOne | LjL: looks good to me | 15:32 |
| IdleOne | left the old medibuntu stuff there for posterity | 15:33 |
| IdleOne | on the wiki | 15:33 |
| LjL | myself i'm not too happy with Multiverse adding such entirely closed source packages :\ | 15:33 |
| IdleOne | LjL: our is not to judge lest ye be judged ourselves. | 15:34 |
| IdleOne | ours* | 15:34 |
| IdleOne | I like that things work. I am not so concerned for open/closed source | 15:34 |
| IdleOne | now, all we need is someone to add it to the bot. | 15:35 |
| Pici | !no googleearth is <reply> Google Earth is available as the package "googleearth-package" in !Multiverse. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth | 15:36 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Pici | 15:36 |
| IdleOne | Thank you | 15:36 |
| Pici | no | 15:36 |
| Pici | problem | 15:36 |
| IdleOne | is it just me or when someone asks how to edit source list, you want to know what/why? | 15:38 |
| Pici | Its not just you. | 15:38 |
| IdleOne | So when people just give the answer without knowing what the user is going to do :/ | 15:39 |
| IdleOne | Let's just keep pointing people to download debs instead of making it easy for them with a recommended and supported way | 15:50 |
| IdleOne | errr I need more coffee | 15:51 |
| === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs | ||
| charlie-tca | how do I put a ban in after they ran off? | 17:01 |
| charlie-tca | <some1> sup bitches, can I ask teh questionz on herz? | 17:01 |
| charlie-tca | * some1 (625506b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.85.6.181) has left #xubuntu ("I do have a bigger one") | 17:01 |
| IdleOne | /mode +b *!*@98.85.6.181 | 17:02 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 17:02 |
| IdleOne | but they seem to be the same user using proxies. probably won't stop them from getting back in. | 17:03 |
| charlie-tca | I see. Well, worth trying, I hope | 17:03 |
| IdleOne | yup | 17:03 |
| IdleOne | I don't think you even need to set the bans, looks like they got bored and left, they haven't returned | 17:09 |
| IdleOne | up to you | 17:09 |
| IdleOne | :) | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | Hoping they stay away. But we seeing more of this for some reason | 17:10 |
| ubottu | IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () | 17:46 |
| IdleOne | false alarm | 17:47 |
| IdleOne | I jumped to quick | 17:47 |
| === gord is now known as gord|afk | ||
| IdleOne | yay in spanish too | 20:22 |
| IdleOne | should we change the link in !samba from https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html to https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html? | 20:47 |
| Pici | I've left all the serverguide links point to the LTS. | 20:47 |
| Tm_T | how much they differ? | 20:47 |
| IdleOne | Tm_T: I don't think they differ at all | 20:49 |
| IdleOne | but ok leave at LTS | 20:49 |
| IdleOne | probably better anyway | 20:49 |
| Tm_T | better especially if they shouldn't differ that much | 20:49 |
| IdleOne | yeah I didn't check but I doubt there was that much change in server from 10.04 to 10.10 | 20:50 |
| === Martinp24 is now known as Martinp23 | ||
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