[01:32] Hes just as random in PM. [01:43] Heads up. People asking about LOIC or payback should probably be directed at !illegal [01:54] In #ubuntu, ZenGuy said: ubottu: 1GB is not really low memory [02:10] ;) [02:10] Pici: we double banned! [02:12] We ops have to ban together. [02:12] ha [02:13] * maco snorts [02:13] * Pici groans [02:14] punny, vewwy vewwy punny. [02:16] So much lag >.> [02:17] rww: Using irssi through ssh? [02:17] Jordan_U: on a crap connection, yes. [02:17] * Pici sighs [02:20] rww: That was someone who wasn't happy with me banning them earlier in -server [02:20] or ignoring their wildly random private messages [02:20] Pici: iirc, they've PMed me for support before and I told them not to :\ [02:21] rww: not BitEncrypt, the person before that. [02:21] And people do that to me all the time. :( [02:22] The person before that was connecting from dialup.ice.net. I personally suspect there's one troll on a dynamic IP that gets bored every so often. [02:46] In ubottu, IdleOne said: jolicloud is Support for Jolicloud can be found at http://www.jolicloud.com/support [02:55] Chase doesn't have Ubuntu (confirmed in PM, just jolicloud), so it doesn't make much sense to unquiet him in #ubuntu but at the same time I'm not sure this deserves a ban. Any suggestions for the best course of action? [02:55] does he show intentions of sticking to support [02:55] ? [02:56] /follwing guidelines [02:56] following* [02:56] if not leave him +q and he will get bored and leave [02:57] IdleOne: It seems odd to ask since he doesn't have Ubuntu and doesn't appear at least to want to provide support rather than get it. But I guess I should ask anyway as a formality, right? [02:58] inform of the channel guidelines and ask if he is willing to follow them if not you will have no choice but to leave him muted [02:58] off topic is disruptive to those who are here for support..... [04:56] I still think that making wubi a supported method of installation was a bad idea [05:15] And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Thou shalt not cause one operating system to lie with another: it is profane in the sight of the Lord. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down ... [05:15] ... thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you. - Leviticus 18:21-26 [05:17] is that the KJ version? [05:18] yes. little known fact ... members of King James' court were early MBR developers. [05:19] you get what you pay for with translations. [05:23] wait ... did i just call MBR developers homophobes? i didn't mean to. [05:23] you been drinking? [05:24] nope. [05:24] this is me sober. [05:24] hey we got 32cm of snow here. [05:24] one storm? [05:24] not a storm flurries over a couple days [05:25] s/storm/storm,/ [05:25] still pretty good, by .qc standards [05:25] if that happened here the city would be paralyzed. [05:25] yeah, we are still getting a few cm over the next few days [05:26] i think we have a total of 4 snow plows. all ox-drawn. [05:26] I, btw, have no idea how I can be relatively awake at this hour [05:27] naps [05:28] mneptok: want me to take some pics of plows and post them for you? [05:29] * tonyyarusso ships a few feet of snow down to mneptok, could use the giggles [05:32] Snow plow with all the fixin's: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/d3/newsrels/08/12/Picture059.jpg [05:33] Common reason to be late for work: http://www.winterweather.state.mn.us/images/Plow_stay_back.jpg [05:35] errrrr https://launchpad.net/perfectbuntu ??? [05:39] And this is why we love Google Image Search: http://www.comixconnection.com/uploaded_images/DeerDeepSnow3-723533.jpg [05:39] Myrtti: this surprises you? [05:39] has anyone looked at any version of "perfectbuntu"? [05:40] First I've heard of it. [05:40] $10 says it's crap like all the rest though. [05:41] good grief I'm tired [06:13] * rww opens page, reads, "A handy bash script" and "Installs things", facepalms and closes page [06:14] does anyone have enough brian activity to tell cliff__ to tone down in a way that he'd perhaps understand it? I can't think of anything [06:15] too late [06:17] Myrtti: It'a amazing how much more brain activity it takes to op than to give support. [06:17] Opping seems so much harder when you're actually an op :[ [06:18] Jordan_U: it's the effort of not resorting to "OY SHUT UP YOU NIMWITS AND STICK TO THE TOPIC" and being civil that takes the majority of brain CPU for me sometimes [06:24] I think we need to add "OY SHUT UP YOU NIMWITS AND STICK TO THE TOPIC" to the topic in #u [06:24] and -ot [06:25] wait, -ot has no "topic" [06:27] Sure it does. Tomorrow's topic is "What is your favourite spelling of "favorite"?" [06:27] I am so droll. [06:28] haha [06:28] I like that [06:30] Oh, also, I'm keeping track of +e in #ubuntu and copying ones that aren't removed properly by FloodBots to LjL. So if anyone else tends to remove stale +e entries, take a vacation on that for a little while :) [06:31] you got it [06:57] rww: banforward? ;-) [06:57] Myrtti: can't, -cn isn't +F [06:57] That was my thought though, yes. [06:57] awww [06:58] Relatedly, "Continuing to speak in another language: kick+forward to loco channel" ~ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines is neither common practice nor generally possible. Someone want to update it with what's generally actually done? (+q? I don't know.) [07:02] rww: We try and do that when possible, only after it's apparent they won't get the picture. Otherwise, you just have to stop them from disrupting #u [07:03] (and when doing that, you kick, not remove, so any auto-rejoin scripts trigger and rejoin them... to their language channel) [07:03] But only rarely does it get to that point [07:07] he seems not to get the point [07:07] rww: something else you can try is to join [language channel] and ask someone to join #u and "fly them in" [07:09] hrm. could banforward them to -irc and try there. less disruptive. [07:11] * rww facepalms [07:18] or #ubuntu-hk, which has ops on ubuntu member cloak. That might work [07:19] s/hk/tw/ [07:24] alrighty, now they're there. let's see what happens. [07:28] ... someone said /join #ubuntu-cn and they /quit. roflfacepalm === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [08:25] http://rww.name/arvut.txt :| [08:44] rww: have you had a word? [08:48] I said something along the lines of it not being a good idea last month when he was doing it a few times a day. If he starts up again, I guess I'll have to be more pointed about it. [09:01] @login [09:01] The operation succeeded. [10:16] So much misinformation in #ubuntu, too tired to correct all of it... [10:23] Jordan_U: :( [10:26] Channel keeping, especially #ubuntu, involvs the use of eagle eyes :) [10:27] yesterday someone flooded, and no one noticed that someone in between the flood lines had also said the f word in a bad context [10:27] had to /kb [10:27] around 3 minutes after the flood :( [10:29] cdbs: did you talk to the person first? generally its better to have a chat with them before kicking/banning, especially if they are not continually doing it. [10:29] jussi: his exact sentence was: 'fuck you all and Ubuntu' or something similar [10:30] I remember having seen Pici kb a person for saying: Ubuntu f***ing sucks on #ubuntu [10:30] around a month ago [10:32] cdbs: ahh, a remove in the first instance is best there - they dont usually come back. If is just someone getting grumbly because somethign doesnt work, having a quick pm about their language can be helpful [10:32] jussi: as I said, that was his first sentence. okay, will take care of it from the next time onwards [10:48] jussi: could you look at the logs from #ubuntu-us-dc the last couple days and tell me if you also find this new visitor a bit odd? [10:50] maco: link? [10:50] (Im on limited time [10:50] ) [10:51] he is [10:51] also probably in early teens [10:51] http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2010/12/09/%23ubuntu-us-dc.html [10:52] has been joining and just asks for people to talk on skype every time, today with a "so what are you wearing?" which really O_o [10:53] perhaps you need to really spell it out for him, although the channel is quite low traffic to serve as a training place for irc etiquette [10:54] can locobots do the ubottu factoids? [10:54] like, can i call !guidelines in there? [10:54] maco: yup [10:55] maco: loco bots are synced every 24 hours [10:55] ok [10:55] I mean, their factoid DB is synced [10:55] maco: Which loco team are you in? [10:55] dc [10:55] and soon to be pa [10:56] :o [10:56] Us teams :) [10:57] yes [11:04] maco: Call their bluff. [11:55] oh lord [11:57] actually, now that I think of it [11:59] he was banevading. [12:12] is chouchou cheating on a test or what is he asking? [12:15] something like that it seems [12:15] ubuntu tweak... is that yeat another automatix clone? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1641474 :( [12:16] jussi: you're out of touch, my friend [12:16] ubuntu tweak was the helper app that was discussed before I had my hiatus and popey had talked to the developer [12:16] Myrtti: no, just confused, I never remember all the different ones [12:16] the semilegitimate one [12:17] oh. so it doesnt have --force-yes ? [12:17] keeps messing things up though, AFAIR [12:18] I'd be more worried about Perfectbuntu 5 [12:18] well that's the name I haven't heard of [12:18] s/the/a/ possibly [12:19] I heard about it yesterday [12:19] or day before [12:20] "Is Ubuntu simple enough for newbies? Honestly, I think it is, but with the disclaimer that having a managed solution using Ubuntu is always going to be “easier”. That being said, take one solution picking up where Automatix and EasyUbuntu left off. This solution is a bash script called Perfectbuntu." [12:24] sudo apt-get -y -m install ubuntu-desktop [12:24] :-| [12:25] another one.... [12:26] # Install gksudo (which is required to run Perfectbuntu 5.0+ on KDE) [12:26] echo -n "gksudo was not found, trying to install gksudo." >> $LOGFILE [12:26] kdesudo --comment "$GKMSG" "apt-get --force-yes -y -f -m install gksu" [12:27] BRILLIANT [12:29] aaand why they cannot use kdesudo then? (: [12:30] not to mention, installing gksu, not gksudo [12:30] apt-get --force-yes -y -f -m -q install "w64codecs" [12:31] "merry christmas" [12:35] popey: wth, that website has Ubuntu UK podcast logo on the bottom [12:36] "Perfectbuntu is mainly programmed by Robbie Ferguson of Category5 Technology TV." [12:56] Ugh. Has that person never heard of doing functions in bash? [12:57] Besides the fact that its bound to break your system, its a great example of what not to do programmatically. DRY please. [14:29] slow today. [15:07] Grumpici [15:08] Morning :/ [15:08] * IdleOne sips coffee and deletes emails [15:13] perfectubuntu? do we need another factoid? [15:13] "just say no" [15:14] topyli: you seen my repo? [15:15] LjL: i took alook with a browser when whe last talked about it [15:16] topyli: ah but that was just a test, and it didn't work from F-Droid. now it's public, and has 150 programs compiled. http://ljl.byethost24.com/fdroid [15:16] great! [15:17] topyli: you will need to upgrade F-Droid to the latest version to use it, though (but it also has a web interface) [15:17] topyli: the bug where it crashed after installing apps was also fixed [15:18] meh, i'm really haunted by this GoPro camera [15:19] since i visited their website, to give it as a present to a friend, now every single ad i see on the web is about it [15:19] :) [15:19] wait [15:19] this is not #Ubuntu-offtopic is it? [15:19] * LjL blushes [15:19] nope :) [15:30] In ubottu, IdleOne said: googleearth is Google Earth is available, for free (only as in price). Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >> or search for googleearth-package using the Software Center or Synaptic package manager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth . See !repos for enabling Multiverse repository. [15:30] !googleearth [15:30] Google Earth is available, for free (only as in price). Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >> or search for googleearth-package using the Software Center or Synaptic package manager. See !repos for enabling Multiverse repository. [15:31] just added the link to wiki, wiki has been edited. [15:31] oh if there's a wiki, i'd make it more prominent, like this [15:31] google-earth package is available in all supported version in multiverse [15:31] errr googleearth-package [15:32] !no googleearth is Google Earth is available as the package "googleearth-package" in !Multiverse. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth [15:32] In #ubuntu-ops, LjL said: !no googleearth is Google Earth is available as the package "googleearth-package" in !Multiverse. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth [15:32] LjL: looks good to me [15:33] left the old medibuntu stuff there for posterity [15:33] on the wiki [15:33] myself i'm not too happy with Multiverse adding such entirely closed source packages :\ [15:34] LjL: our is not to judge lest ye be judged ourselves. [15:34] ours* [15:34] I like that things work. I am not so concerned for open/closed source [15:35] now, all we need is someone to add it to the bot. [15:36] !no googleearth is Google Earth is available as the package "googleearth-package" in !Multiverse. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth [15:36] I'll remember that Pici [15:36] Thank you [15:36] no [15:36] problem [15:38] is it just me or when someone asks how to edit source list, you want to know what/why? [15:38] Its not just you. [15:39] So when people just give the answer without knowing what the user is going to do :/ [15:50] Let's just keep pointing people to download debs instead of making it easy for them with a recommended and supported way [15:51] errr I need more coffee === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [17:01] how do I put a ban in after they ran off? [17:01] sup bitches, can I ask teh questionz on herz? [17:01] * some1 (625506b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.85.6.181) has left #xubuntu ("I do have a bigger one") [17:02] /mode +b *!*@98.85.6.181 [17:02] Thanks [17:03] but they seem to be the same user using proxies. probably won't stop them from getting back in. [17:03] I see. Well, worth trying, I hope [17:03] yup [17:09] I don't think you even need to set the bans, looks like they got bored and left, they haven't returned [17:09] up to you [17:09] :) [17:10] Hoping they stay away. But we seeing more of this for some reason [17:46] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () [17:47] false alarm [17:47] I jumped to quick === gord is now known as gord|afk [20:22] yay in spanish too [20:47] should we change the link in !samba from https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html to https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html? [20:47] I've left all the serverguide links point to the LTS. [20:47] how much they differ? [20:49] Tm_T: I don't think they differ at all [20:49] but ok leave at LTS [20:49] probably better anyway [20:49] better especially if they shouldn't differ that much [20:50] yeah I didn't check but I doubt there was that much change in server from 10.04 to 10.10 === Martinp24 is now known as Martinp23