[00:24] <seidos> hey all, any ideas on where to look to find foods that grow in san francisco's climate?  i did a google search, and haven't found anything that resembles a list
[00:26] <jtatum> anything mold based
[00:26] <jtatum> moss
[00:26] <jtatum> insects
[00:27] <akk> heh
[00:27] <akk> seidos: There's a gardening book by Sunset that lists climate zones and plants that grow in each one -- big book, overkill, but if you want long lists of plants that'll do it.
[00:28] <akk> seidos: Or get the Chronicle and read its weekly (or is it more often than that? I only see Sunday's) garden section.
[00:29] <seidos> ah, thanks for humoring me.  i shouldn't fill the channel with my off-topic jibberish
[00:29] <pleia2> hahaha mold based
[00:29] <pleia2> it's not that bad!
[00:30] <pleia2> (but I'm from the northeast, san francisco for all it's fog is still the *least* soggy place I've ever lived)
[00:31] <akk> Really, seidos, I think you should just plant a bunch of stuff and see what grows. Books and lists won't necessarily correspond to your actual garden anyway.
[00:32] <akk> Go to local nurseries, buy whatever they're selling that looks like fun, some of it will grow, some won't, varies from year to year anyway.
[00:32] <seidos> there's a local garden here, i'll see what they grow.  i don't want to reinvent the wheel
[00:32] <seidos> i think it's called argonne or something
[00:34] <seidos> i was going to go to a local nursery, but i wont some seeds on iheartubuntu's site >_<
[00:34] <seidos> *won
[00:35] <seidos> which is strange, because i never win anything
[00:35] <akk> Having some free seeds doesn't prevent you from going to nurseries and seeing what they're selling.
[00:39] <seidos> i kind of would feel like mooching if i went to the store without an intent to buy :/
[01:43] <pleia2> ok, heading down to the SF Ubuntu Hour :)
[04:55] <pleia2> woo, we got to meet seidos :)
[05:40] <jdeslip> A fun time!
[05:42] <pleia2> yeah :)
[05:45] <crashsystems> who is going to be at tomorrow's san jose meeting?
[08:52] <nUboon2Age> crashsystems: me for sure. :-)
[08:55] <nUboon2Age> tonight: The Ubuntu Hour in San Jose:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/585/detail/ , outofjungle, mcgrof_, seidos, jledbetter, jtatum, jiboumans, jamalta, crashsystems1, aaditya, akk
[14:36] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects edited
[14:52] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects edited
[15:13] <nUboon2Ageou> seidos: i regret i couldn't make it to pleia2's Ubuntu Hour/Debian Dinner thingy -- too exhausted from my moving.  But are you able to make it down to San Jose (possibly via Caltrain) to The Ubuntu Hour: San Jose tonight?
[15:14] <seidos> nUboon2Ageou, i can try :)
[15:15] <nUboon2Age> seidos: its walking distance (a bit of a hike but very doable) from Caltrain
[15:16] <nUboon2Age> seidos: i'd probably advise walking up Santa Clara st (since its better lit) to 3rd, then going south on 3rd
[15:19] <nUboon2Age> seidos: sorry, i should have said "walking up San Carlos st."
[15:20] <seidos> nUboon2Age, i looked on google maps, they say it's a 2 hour 18 minute trip O_o
[15:20] <nUboon2Age> nein, mein freund. seidos.  can you give me a link to that?
[15:21] <seidos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/541493/
[15:21] <seidos> nUboon2Age, ^
[15:22] <seidos> maybe i shouldn't care, but i'd like the event to be longer than the bus/train ride if possible :/
[15:23] <nUboon2Age> i messed that up again, i was right the first time.  W Santa Clara st.
[15:24] <nUboon2Age> seidos: it looks like the issue is where you're situated in SF.  Far from Caltrain. But that could be overcomeable potentially.
[15:25] <seidos> nUboon2Age, i have no idea.  i've just been using google maps to get around so far.
[15:26] <seidos> haven't had any problems yet, actually.  do you know the san francisco area nUboon2Age?
[15:26] <nUboon2Age> once on Caltrain its about 1 hour ride, then the walk over from the San Jose train station
[15:26] <seidos> hmmm, canonical is hiring a "support technical analyst" in montreal
[15:27] <seidos> ah, so getting to caltrain takes an hour
[15:27] <nUboon2Age> an interesting/odd location
[15:27] <seidos> i don't mind taking a 2 hour ride for a day thing or something
[15:27] <seidos> it's the only place i have.
[15:27] <seidos> the only other option is to sleep in my car
[15:27] <seidos> but if i was doing that, i'm not sure i would be living in the city
[15:28] <seidos> well, "have" is a pretty strong word
[15:28] <seidos> i don't know, have you ever taken a 2 hour ride to an ubuntu hour, nUboon2Age ?
[15:29] <nUboon2Age> no, i meant Montreal is an interesting/odd location for Canonical to put a "support tecnical analyst"
[15:29] <nUboon2Age> seidos: yes i have
[15:29] <nUboon2Age> seidos: in order for me to get to the east bay it takes that long by public transit.
[15:30] <seidos> O_o.  what do you do that whole time?
[15:30] <seidos> nUboon2Age, what's at the east bay?
[15:30] <nUboon2Age> so when i went to rockridge jam, Solano Stroll, or just to meet w/ markdude
[15:31] <crashsystems1> Hello world
[15:31] <nUboon2Age> i listen to podcasts and read mostly seidos
[15:31] <nUboon2Age> crashsystems1: howdy
[15:32]  * crashsystems1 needs coffee
[15:32] <seidos> nUboon2Age, those events are usually more than an hour, aren't they?
[15:32]  * seidos needs food
[15:32]  * seidos needs to pay his taxes
[15:32] <seidos> ^_^
[15:33]  * crashsystems1 also needs a breakfast burrito
[15:33] <nUboon2Age> tonight: The Ubuntu Hour in San Jose:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/585/detail/ , seidos, crashsystems1, aaditya, Yasumoto
[15:33] <crashsystems1> I'll be there
[15:34] <nUboon2Age> seidos: yes, and if you made it down we'd make sure to spend some time w/ you.
[15:35] <seidos> nUboon2Age, i'll try.  i have a meeting at 2pm.  i don't know, maybe i can bring a friend.
[15:35] <nUboon2Age> officially one hour, but last time in SJ some of us actually went probably till 11.
[15:35] <nUboon2Age> seidos: ^^
[15:36] <seidos> i would do it if it was earlier.  i don't really like getting to bed at 1am.
[15:36] <seidos> in fact, i've been going to sleep at 9 or 10pm lately O_o
[15:36] <seidos> or, if you don't mind me crashing on your couch, or sleeping on the floor, nUboon2Age.  but i don't have my sleeping bag with me :|
[17:28] <nUboon2Age> (seidos_ and i chatted and determined that next week's The Ubuntu Hour- mountain View will probably work better for him)
[17:29] <nUboon2Age> tonight: The Ubuntu Hour in San Jose:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/585/detail/ , outofjungle, mcgrof_, seidos, jledbetter, jtatum, jiboumans, jamalta, crashsystems1, aaditya, akk
[17:30] <jledbetter> Heh
[17:30] <pleia2> I also dent/tweeted about it on the cali account about a half hour ago
[17:30] <akk> I can't make it, but I should be able to make MV next week.
[17:30] <nUboon2Age> like you'll be commuting today jledbetter?  better climb on that plane quick like. :-)
[17:30] <jledbetter> Indeed.
[17:31] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: yeah!
[17:31] <akk> b
[17:32] <pleia2> unfortunately I can't make it down to mt view next week, in spite of years past (december being quiet while people prepare for holidays) I've found my schedule next week to be completely full
[17:57] <nUboon2Age> akk: i'll look forward to seeing y'all next week
[17:58] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: hope to see you next month, sorry i didn't make it last night.  i was too exhausted from moving.  next month probably.
[17:58] <pleia2> nUboon2Age: I understand, you missed out though - 9 people at this one, biggest one for SF :)
[18:01] <akk> btw, nUboon2Age, the email announcement says "Thursday: December 19" for MV -- I assume you mean the 16th?
[18:20] <seidos> "scott james remnant: events are like signals" is in my feed reader a dozen times or so O_o.  not sure why that's happening.
[18:29] <yantrashilpi> seidos: I checked the guy's blog site... it's the same there as well. Looks like his posting mechanism screwed up or he/she was just impatiently whacking enter about 7 times.
[18:32] <seidos> yantrashilpi, ahhh
[18:39] <nUboon2Age> akk: thanks for the heads up on the incorrect date.  i'll have to fix it later.
[18:39] <nUboon2Age> seidos: sjr is sending you signals. :-)
[18:39] <akk> nUboon2Age: Not critical this week, but next week you'll want to be sure the date is right.
[18:39] <nUboon2Age> yantrashilpi: can you make it tonight?
[18:39] <nUboon2Age> akk: yup
[18:40] <yantrashilpi> would love to but don't think I can.
[18:40] <yantrashilpi> I have an office thing to finish up
[18:41] <yantrashilpi> It'll be too late before I make it out there.
[18:41] <nUboon2Age> akk: the problem in order to create an event announcement there are numerous separate web and e-mail locations that need to be updated every time. :-/  its quite a chore.  it'd be cool to create an extension of gwibber that'd update them all.
[18:41] <yantrashilpi> I'll have to miss it again :(
[18:41] <akk> It sure would be nice to have an integrated system of announcing events.
[18:42] <nUboon2Age> yantrashilpi: we'll likely be there for a while.  how late is late for you?  also how about next week?
[18:42] <yantrashilpi> I think next week looks much better
[18:42] <akk> Then maybe we could also not have to get 11 copies of every announcement, too (like the TV thing or the latest LUG meeting).
[18:42] <yantrashilpi> I think around 7:30-8
[18:42] <yantrashilpi> so will check with y'all on chat around that time
[18:43] <yantrashilpi> nUboon2Age: I got quadruple booked today eevning.
[18:43] <yantrashilpi> why doe sthat happen? there is nothing for about 4 days and suddenly 4 events on 1
[18:45] <seidos> "nothing gets done without the last minute"
[19:17] <outofjungle> nUboon2Age: I cannot make it today. I have a schedule conflict :(
[19:55] <Telendrith> Any here use xchat?
[21:10] <yantrashilpi> Telendrith: I used to use xchat until the trial expired on the windows machine :)
[21:28] <MarkDude> Anyone able to make it to  a TV show next Monday in SF for a show that shows Linux in schools? >>> http://zareason.posterous.com/35683059
[21:38] <MarkDude> akk can you make it to this next monday? http://zareason.posterous.com/35683059
[21:41] <akk> No, sorry
[21:44] <MarkDude> np. Worth a shot
[21:44] <MarkDude> :)
[22:08] <jtatum> nUboon2Age: should i reserve the board room at pizza my heart for after the hour? :)
[22:42] <yantrashilpi> does anybody know if chrome is default in 11.04?
[22:43] <pleia2> no, chrome is not in the repos, and chromium is still in universe
[22:45] <pleia2> I know there was talk of making chromium default in some of the derivatives but I don't think that every happened either
[22:46] <pleia2> s/every/ever
[22:57] <yantrashilpi> ahh ok
[22:58] <yantrashilpi> hopefully the FF guys will get their act together and release 4.0 before 11.04. It really does kickass on maverick right now.
[22:58] <pleia2> that would be nice :)
[23:10] <dragon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm-Vnx58UYo
[23:26] <MarkDude> http://thrillpeddlers.com/pearls-over-shanghai/
[23:26] <MarkDude> So a friend is having a Bday party and invited a few of us to go to this^^^^
[23:27] <MarkDude> Is it just me or is gender-bending *code* for drag queens? and kings?
[23:28] <nUboon2Age> jtatum: yeah that's a nice idea.
[23:28] <akk> I think gender-bending is broader than just that.
[23:29] <nUboon2Age> androgyny/gender bending is much broader than simply drag queens/kings MarkDude
[23:29] <MarkDude> nUboon2Age, I get that.
[23:30]  * MarkDude just missed it in context  with the cockettes
[23:30]  * MarkDude has a few friends that are *non- identified* Im not talking lifestyle here
[23:31] <MarkDude> Just in context of what I'll see when I go.
[23:32]  * MarkDude is not really into theater, but it looks like it may be intersting. 
[23:32]  * MarkDude is just hoping it is more than dudes that look like Flo from the insurance commercials :)
[23:33] <MarkDude> Um, seems like this would a perfect question to ask in offtopic- sorry if I offended anyone
[23:34]  * MarkDude was just hoping someone had seen the show- I could care less how weird it is- just that it is intersting
[23:38] <nUboon2Age> MarkDude: there's a guy on the radio (that i think at some point we should approach to do an Ubuntu demo) who's an authority on "All Things Gay" and that whole sector.  His name is Karel and in the Bay Area you can hear him from 3-6pm on Green 960.  Very interesting fellow.
[23:39] <MarkDude> Dude Karel rocks!
[23:39] <MarkDude> Hes hella funny
[23:41] <nUboon2Age> i really enjoy much (not quite all but much) of what Karel has to say MarkDude
[23:44] <jtatum> nUboon2Age: booked in my name @ 8pm
[23:54] <MarkDude> nUboon2Age, me too.
[23:55] <nUboon2Age> okay i'm going to take off now (to eventually end up down at Phillz).  this machine will be left on, but i won't be here to see it (except by checking the log).
[23:55] <MarkDude> later
[23:55] <nUboon2Age> MarkDude: yeah his PoV is very close to the Green Party (and very much in contrast with most of the Dems)
[23:55] <nUboon2Age> MarkDude: luego amigo
[23:57] <nUboon2Age> tonight: The Ubuntu Hour in San Jose:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/585/detail/ , outofjungle, mcgrof_, seidos, jledbetter, jtatum, jiboumans, jamalta, crashsystems1, aaditya, akk, dragon, Telendrith