[03:45]  * ShawnR is glad he uses ubuntu for his normal stuff, centos is a PITA
[03:57] <itnet7> lol ShawnR !
[04:00] <itnet7> bbl
[05:12] <ratnick> hi anyone know why efax-gtk won't run on Ubuntu 10.04LTS (I have a debug log on file, but it's geek)
[05:15] <ratnick> thanks anyway
[06:07] <dantalizing> zoopster: is your cloud presentation online somewhere?
[06:20] <crashsystems> quote of the day "Ubuntu has a server?!"
[11:36] <zoopster> dantalizing: yes...do you need a specific one?
[11:47] <cjohnston> http://www.wftv.com/news/26071484/detail.html
[11:49] <cjohnston> Bad day here in Florida
[12:08] <dantalizing> zoopster: no, no specific one
[12:09] <dantalizing> zoopster: latest
[14:58] <Lupine> ok, this is a simple one...but bothering me as to why I can't figure it out :(
[14:58] <Lupine> why does the following command:  find /home/dbtest/ -path '*.cache' -prune -o -type f
[14:58] <Lupine> continue to report back: /home/dbtest/.cache
[14:59] <tiemonster> why not?
[14:59] <Lupine> I'm trying to use find command to find all "files only" from a directory, but ignore ("prune") a specific sub-directory
[15:00] <Lupine> and I thought that, prune was supposed to take care of that for me
[15:02] <Lupine> annoyingly enough, it continue to report back the very directory I'm telling it to ignore.  even though I'm specifying "-type f"
[15:50] <Lupine> welp, finally found the proper method: find /home/dbtest/ ! -wholename '*.cache*' -type f
[15:51] <tiemonster> cool
[16:23] <itnet7> tiemonster: did you see the e-mail about discounted LPI certifications?
[16:23] <itnet7> Good Morning btw!
[16:26] <klutz> good morning all.
[16:27] <klutz> Anyone want to help me understand how my  router is slower than several DNS servers and how to switch?
[16:27] <Slizzurd`> DammitJim: I am using J_r0dd's preclair.
[16:27] <itnet7> Hey there klutz
[16:27] <itnet7> klutz: I'm not sure I understand what your asking, I can try and help you after lunch
[16:28] <Slizzurd> Slower?
[16:28] <klutz> Here is the results...   http://pastebin.com/wEP3ucvJ
[16:29] <klutz> 10-8 and standing by...
[16:30] <DammitJim> sweet! thanks, Slizzurd 
[16:31] <Slizzurd> DammitJim: Do you have the same phone?
[16:34] <tiemonster> itnet7: yes, but can't study that fast
[16:37] <tiemonster> klutz: yeah - you can change your DNS settings in your router and get an imperceivable increase in performance
[16:37] <DammitJim> I have an N1
[16:37] <DammitJim> I want to get the NS
[16:38] <tiemonster> better than NT
[16:39] <mhall119> or the NO
[16:39] <tiemonster> klutz: nscd can also give you boost if you're worried about DNS performance
[16:39] <klutz> tiemonster>  DNS is default right now... 
[16:39] <tiemonster> are you having resolution performance issues?
[16:43] <klutz> http://imagebin.org/127112
[16:44] <klutz> I tried aprogram today and I am trying to understand the results.
[16:53] <tiemonster> well I don't understand it, but opendns has pretty clear instructions on changing your DNS
[16:54] <klutz> opendns.org?
[16:55] <tiemonster> http://www.opendns.com/
[16:55] <mhall119> use google's dns servers isntead
[16:55] <klutz> ifconfig does not show the DNS that I am using... Is there a command for that?
[16:56] <mhall119> /etc/resolv.conf has your dns servers
[16:56] <klutz> Cat that location?
[16:58] <klutz> nameserver 192.168.1.1  this is my router...
[16:59] <tiemonster> what the?
[16:59] <tiemonster> why?
[16:59] <mhall119> okay, so your router has the list of actual DNS servers
[16:59] <mhall119> tiemonster: many home routers do this
[16:59] <tiemonster> klutz: yeah - you'll have to change it at the router if you want custom DNS
[16:59] <mhall119> you can change it on your box
[16:59] <mhall119> then it'll just bypass the router all togther for DNS
[17:00] <mhall119> http://pastebin.com/8VjiZd0Z is my /etc/resolv.conf
[17:02] <klutz> you can change it on your box...   You mean Router?   I have several comuters in the house...
[17:03] <mhall119> you can change it on the router, and it'll affect every box in your internal network, or on the individual boxes themselves
[17:04]  * klutz thinks I am in over my  head...
[17:05] <Slizzurd> DammitJim: As do I but I can't justify that much money on a little ol phone
[17:05] <DammitJim> i know
[17:06] <tiemonster> klutz: not that bad
[17:06] <Slizzurd> DammitJim: I would consider it for my girlfriend to replace her iphone since she has unlimited data and then I could really do soemthing with it.
[17:07] <DammitJim> so, on AT&T?
[17:07] <DammitJim> unlocked power
[17:07] <Slizzurd> Yeah
[17:07] <Slizzurd> ?
[17:07] <klutz> Tech Republic put out this article today...  http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/networking/?p=3580&tag=nl.e101
[17:07] <klutz> I was trying to see if I could make it happen.
[17:08] <tiemonster> sure. log into the router.
[17:09] <tiemonster> what kind of router is it?
  I am not sure as to where to put these numbers into the router...  I know I will hear about it if I break what is not broken..
[17:10] <tiemonster> you won't
[17:10] <klutz> N14 net gear...  Give me a minute and I can get you a screen shot and pist it to imagebin.
[17:10] <klutz> oops post... Fatfingers...
[17:11] <tiemonster> first, find me the model number - http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10727/session/L3NpZC9wblFJZTVoaw%3D%3D
[17:13] <Slizzurd> DammitJim: I don't see why everyone bashes AT&T. They were great in the mountains of Alabama and still great here in  flat Florida
[17:14] <DammitJim> nothing against them
[17:15] <klutz> http://imagebin.org/127117
[17:16] <klutz> WGR614v7
[17:18] <tiemonster> do you have any way to do screen sharing?
[17:18] <ShawnR> Slizzurd: AT&T used to be great, before bellsouth bought them out, now verizon is king in FL
[17:19] <tiemonster> klutz: do you have any way to do screen sharing?
[17:19] <klutz> I can install team viewer...
[17:19] <klutz> just take a minute...
[17:20] <tiemonster> or you could give me shell access to your computer, and I could change it for you! :-)
[17:20] <ShawnR> klutz: you just need to say manual DNS, and type in the numbers you wanna use...
[17:20] <ShawnR> what special deal are you trying to do?
[17:20] <tiemonster> oh duh - it was right in front of my fave
[17:20] <tiemonster> *face
[17:20] <klutz> Go faster.
[17:21] <tiemonster> click "use these DNS servers"
[17:21] <tiemonster> then put in 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[17:21] <tiemonster> save, and you're all good
[17:21] <ShawnR> ^^
[17:21] <ShawnR> that's why i was wondering what was so hard about this :P
[17:21] <ShawnR> although, level 3 DNS was faster for me than google
[17:22] <ShawnR> you might wanna run the dns benchmark and then use those results
[17:22] <tiemonster> we're talking ms here
[17:22] <ShawnR> right
[17:22] <ShawnR> single digit ms
[17:22] <tiemonster> Google is fine. He justs wants to play with custom DNS in general.
[17:23] <ShawnR> yeah
[17:23] <klutz> ok....     yes...   Go faster...
[17:23] <ShawnR> :P
[17:23] <klutz> i use Mint...
[17:23] <tiemonster> I noticed
[17:23] <tiemonster> tried not to say anything
[17:23] <tiemonster> ;-P
[17:23] <tiemonster> klutz: did you make the change?
[17:25] <klutz> Changing settings as we type...
[17:25] <klutz> Why not use these numbers?
[17:26] <klutz> ttp://imagebin.org/127112
[17:26] <klutz> http://imagebin.org/127112
[17:26] <ShawnR> ooh, those are some really bad results... lol
[17:27] <ShawnR> 227ms to 8.8.4.4? ouch
[17:29] <klutz> I just found this program today... I do not know if I want to trust its results yet.
[17:29] <klutz> ok changed... Do Ineed to reboot?
[17:30] <tiemonster> no - just restart networking
[17:30] <tiemonster> sudo service networking restart
[17:30] <tiemonster> or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:30] <tiemonster> that will refresh your IP and change your local DNS settings
[17:31] <ShawnR> klutz: steve gibson (of gibson research) is a trusted man, and the program DNS benchmark is truthworthy
[17:31] <klutz> I tried that one also... Runs fine in Wine...
[17:31] <tiemonster> I would trust the min over the avg
[17:31] <tiemonster> the max for all is 3500
[17:32] <klutz> I have tried both programs from the following Tech Republic article...
[17:32] <klutz> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/networking/?p=3580&tag=nl.e101
[17:33] <ShawnR> yeah, dns benchmark is the only one you need to run
[17:35] <klutz> It was much faster in getting the results...   The other program took about 5 minutes to get results...
[17:36] <klutz> dns benchmark shows my router as being fastest.  192.168.1.1...was at the top.
[17:41] <klutz> http://imagebin.org/127120
[17:43] <mhall119> klutz: it may be pulling from cache
[17:46] <klutz> Cache is one of the things GRCs program tests.
[17:47] <mhall119> local cache I would assume
[17:47] <mhall119> I'm not sure how it would know if your router is caching
[17:49] <klutz> Maybe from Firefox?
[17:50] <klutz> Firefox cache?
[17:53] <klutz> http://imagebin.org/127122
[17:54] <klutz> seems a little faster...
[18:01]  * klutz is going in search of the perfect file...
[20:14] <klutz> hello all
[23:56] <klutz> hello all