[00:11] <dmcglone> I'm back. Gnome is pissing me off
[00:14] <dmcglone> I've entered my e-mail address and password like 30 times now and ubuntu one will not work
[00:14] <dmcglone> I've rebooted at least 3 times and also logged out about 10 times
[00:16] <dmcglone> all I originally wanted to do was change my ubuntu one password so I don't have to enter my password when I login
[00:33] <dmcglone> anyone here record their desktop?
[00:35] <dmcglone> never mind I found screen cast
[01:09] <deejoe> dmcglone: I <3 recordmydesktop
[01:09] <thafreak> I <3 pida
[01:11] <thafreak> when you fire up pida (it's a minimalistic IDE), it says "Pida is starting, and it loves you"
[01:11] <thafreak> More software needs to tell me it loves me
[01:18] <dmcglone> deejoe: thats what It is. Now I need to figure out how to encode the file from .ogv to something youtube reconizes
[01:20] <dmcglone> it will play in totem, but not youtube
[01:24] <scooter2> Hello! Anyone have perl knowledge?
[01:34] <scooter2> Nevermind. Figured it out.
[01:37] <deejoe> that was easy
[01:38] <deejoe> dmcglone: yeah, I jfgi to find some recipe at some point, but I'll be dipped in carmel if I remember where I put it
[01:40] <dmcglone> I think I found something
[01:40] <dmcglone> mencoder -idx input.ogv -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -o output.avi
[01:42] <deejoe> looks reasonable
[01:43] <dmcglone> it seems to be working
[01:43] <deejoe> trying it first on something short, I hope :)
[01:44] <dmcglone> lol
[01:44] <dmcglone> :-/
[01:44] <deejoe> ohgnoes
[01:44] <dmcglone> it's done
[01:44] <dmcglone> wow that was fast
[01:44] <deejoe> and the verdict is?
[01:44] <dmcglone> 13 minute video I belive
[01:44] <dmcglone> let me look
[01:45] <dmcglone> hang on, have to install software for avi
[01:46] <dmcglone> bingo! it works great
[01:46] <dmcglone> now I'll show you the video I made
[01:46] <dmcglone> let me upload to youtube
[01:47] <canthus13> Whee. I just hauled home another old computer...
[01:47] <dmcglone> what you gonna use it for/
[01:48] <dmcglone> ?
[01:48] <canthus13> Parts, most likely.
[01:48] <dmcglone> I just pitched 2 olds ones
[01:48] <canthus13> There's no memory, no drives in it.
[01:48] <dmcglone> video is uploading at the moment
[01:48] <canthus13> it's an Athlon 1700+
[01:49] <dmcglone> nice, is the processor still there?
[01:49] <canthus13> Yup.
[01:49] <dmcglone> thats worth putting together
[01:49]  * canthus13 will throw some ram in it and see what happens.. Should be able to boot a live CD.
[01:49] <dmcglone> true
[01:53] <dmcglone> yo Unit193PPC!
[01:53] <dmcglone> well hello Cheri703, just noticed you are here now
[01:54] <dmcglone> Ok everyone, here's a video of my fight with Ubuntu One
[01:54] <dmcglone> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEA5EX73mKg
[01:58] <dmcglone> I think I just found my calling! I think I'll start making Ubuntu video tutorials
[01:58] <canthus13> so.. Ubuntu One is broken. what's new?
[01:59] <dmcglone> it has been working for a while now, and I decided to change my password like Cheri703 suggested last week so I wouldn't have to enter it after I logged in, so I went with a blank password as was suggested and now I can't connect at all
[02:00] <dmcglone> I'm referring to the stupid gnome keyring
[02:00] <canthus13> ah. I use dropbox. it works just fine for me.
[02:01] <dmcglone> it's idiotic to have to log in once to start gnome then once for other stuff
[02:01] <dmcglone> dropbox doesn't support contact sync :-/
[02:02] <dmcglone> I used dropbox for a couple days
[02:03] <canthus13> Ah. Contact sync doesn't matter to me. I just need someplace to stash files that I need everywhere.
[02:04] <dmcglone> my contacts are my most important thing
[02:05] <dmcglone> I hate to lost my contacts on my phone
[02:05] <dmcglone> loss that is
[02:05] <dmcglone> lose I mean
[02:05] <dmcglone> dang
[02:05] <canthus13> Heh.
[02:05] <deejoe> I now what you mean
[02:05] <deejoe> no
[02:05] <deejoe> know, I mean
[02:05] <deejoe> dang
[02:05] <deejoe> ;-)
[02:06] <dmcglone> I drop my phone a lot, so I always sync my contacts via bluetooth incase my phone breaks
[02:06] <dmcglone> lol deejoe
[02:07] <dmcglone> I also get reminders of my family's birthdays so I don't look like the birthday grinch
[02:08] <dmcglone> anybody here like to sing karaoke?
[02:09] <canthus13> Ew.
[02:10] <dmcglone> ok  well know anyone that does?
[02:10] <canthus13> Uh... no.
[02:10] <canthus13> Well, my wife sometimes... if she's been drinking.
[02:10] <dmcglone> because I make karaoke disks on my computer. I think I'll make that my first Ubuntu/linux tutorial
[02:11] <dmcglone> :-)
[02:11] <dmcglone> we sing karaoke here a lot
[02:11] <dmcglone> my kids love karaoke
[02:12] <thafreak> ugh, dealing with group project members makes me want a christmas ale...
[02:12] <thafreak> but last night I had some and fell asleep at the keyboard
[02:13] <dmcglone> you drank too much dang man! ;-)
[02:13] <dmcglone> is it a Habitual process to leave and enter a room?
[02:14] <dmcglone> oh I guess you all got join/part off
[02:15] <Unit193> dmcglone: You have to say that when he is here.... ;)
[02:15] <dmcglone> think I wouldn't?
[02:15] <thafreak> you can turn join/part off?
[02:15] <dmcglone> in some IRC clients you can
[02:15] <dmcglone> I just close my eyes.
[02:15] <thafreak> but sometimes, those are the only messages in here :)
[02:16] <dmcglone> true, we can be a bit on the quiet side
[02:17] <Unit193> I love it when people have IRC seizures....
[02:18] <dmcglone> hows that go?
[02:19] <Unit193> when they go in and out a ton (quickly is better)
[02:21] <dmcglone> wouldn't they get kicked if they did that?
[02:21] <Unit193> I guess not....
[02:22] <dmcglone> I guess that was the AOL days... LOL
[02:25] <Unit193> dmcglone: Do you go to all the U-Hour?
[02:27] <dmcglone> no Unit193 It's hard for me to make it and I'm not too fond of the location
[02:27] <Unit193PPC> panera?
[02:28] <dmcglone> yeah, but it's on OSU campus. too hard to access
[02:28] <thafreak> What if we had *NINJAS*?
[02:28] <dmcglone> I'd be kickin someones but thats what! ;-)
[02:28] <Unit193PPC> then we wouldn't know it
[02:29] <canthus13> Mmm... ninjas. yum.
[02:29] <dmcglone> my spelling is crappy tonight
[02:33] <dmcglone> Unit193 why the name change so often?
[02:36] <Unit193PPC> PPC?
[02:36] <Unit193PPC> PPC = pocket pc
[02:36] <dmcglone> Ah I see
[02:42] <BiosElement> LOL
[02:42] <BiosElement> EU Cell carriers want to force google to pay them to serve data
[02:43] <BiosElement> In other news, I will soon be asking my electric company to compensate me for the use of my extension cables.
[02:43] <dmcglone> huh?
[02:43] <dmcglone> how is that possible?
[02:43] <BiosElement> http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/12/european-carriers-hope-to-extract-wireless-fees-from-apple-google.ars
[02:44] <dmcglone> Ok that threw me for a loop. I have no clue how your gonna accomplish that
[02:44] <BiosElement> I have no idea either. :)
[02:44] <BiosElement> But if EU carriers can do it, I'm sure I can figure something out ;)
[02:44] <dmcglone> gotcha
[02:45] <dmcglone> I guess I'll make the cable companies compensate me for the channels I don't watch
[02:45] <BiosElement> Be sure to charge them for the electric your TV uses too
[02:45] <BiosElement> I mean it's only fair ;)
[02:45] <dmcglone> yup
[02:46] <BiosElement> Funny thing is ISP's make plunty of money, cell companies even more
[02:46] <dmcglone> and I'm gonna charge the electric company for each receptacle I have in my house that enables them to provide me service and still charge me
[02:47] <BiosElement> Good idea!
[02:47] <BiosElement> You should probably see about charging them for the time it takes you to watch TV too, since they're wasting your otherwise productive time >.>
[02:47] <dmcglone> I'll even charge them for the bulbs and lamps and ceiling fixtures
[02:47] <BiosElement> I swear these idiots make the MPAA/RIAA look san...less insane anyway
[02:48] <dmcglone> haha
[02:48] <BiosElement> Yeah, I have no sympathy for record companies, but negative sympathy for Cell providers >.>
[02:49] <dmcglone> I'm gonna charge the plumbing company for each gallon of perfectly good water my toliet wastes when flushing
[02:49] <BiosElement> lol
[02:49] <BiosElement> Make them buy you a new toilet
[02:49] <dmcglone> yeah an energy efficient toliet
[02:49] <dmcglone> LMAO
[02:50] <BiosElement> BTW am I the only one who fails to see why the KKK is allowed to use paypal/visa/mastercard but wikileaks is not? >.<
[02:50] <BiosElement> I still find that amazing
[02:50] <dmcglone> because PayPal doesn't discriminate....haha
[02:51] <BiosElement> BTW paypal exec was dumb enough to go talk to the news
[02:51] <BiosElement> He said "State Dept. contacted us, said it was illegal. so we took it down."
[02:51] <BiosElement> Since when is the State Dept. a courtroom?
[02:51] <dmcglone> when was having money illegal?
[02:51] <BiosElement> Apparently always heh
[02:52] <dmcglone> and doesn't paypal operate in other countries?
[02:52] <canthus13> paypal is based in the US.
[02:52] <BiosElement> They're worldwide, based in the US
[02:52] <BiosElement> They're also a joke of a company so it doesn't suprise me
[02:52] <dmcglone> do they serve other countries?
[02:52] <thafreak> i *HATE* .Net and visual studio...
[02:53] <BiosElement> Yes
[02:53] <canthus13> they're still based in the US, therefore subject to US jurisdiction.
[02:53] <BiosElement> Only useful thing about paypal actually
[02:53] <thafreak> I think it's making people *dumber*
[02:53] <dmcglone> thafreak: we hate M$
[02:53] <thafreak> yes, but especially visual studio
[02:53] <BiosElement> canthus13, If they were a responsible company they'd require a court order. It'd take all of an hour IF they actually could get a judge to sign off on it
[02:54] <dmcglone> hell Microsoft never could get C and C++ right anyway
[02:54] <thafreak> I meet more "programmers" who think they can handle anything, and end up not actually knowing how to do anything that there isn't a button in visual studio for
[02:54] <BiosElement> lol
[02:54] <BiosElement> thafreak, True.
[02:54] <thafreak> but they insist on using it
[02:55] <dmcglone> they don't insist, they twist your arm and FORCE you to use it
[02:55] <thafreak> the ammount of time *I've* spent helping them figure out how to use their precious IDE, they could have learned python
[02:55] <BiosElement> On that topic, google's just as bad >.>
[02:55] <dmcglone> I hope your getting paid
[02:55] <thafreak> nope for a friggin class
[02:55] <BiosElement> I tried to patch a bug in a f/oss android app, spent 3 hours and still couldn't get it working
[02:55] <thafreak> my LAST class
[02:55] <dmcglone> BiosElement: do you use google?
[02:55] <BiosElement> dmcglone, Sure, all the time.
[02:56] <thafreak> I haven't seen a google tool make people dumber though
[02:56] <dmcglone> I was wondering if you had a beef with them after that last statement
[02:56] <thafreak> lazy maybe, but not dumber
[02:56] <dmcglone> what tools we referring to here?
[02:56] <BiosElement> dmcglone, Nah, just annoyed with their android dev system a bit
[02:56] <BiosElement> dmcglone, eclipse and their confusing as hell docs
[02:57] <thafreak> but atleast their IDE doesn't give you the illusion you're better than you are :)
[02:57] <dmcglone> Oh. I gotta say I don't use any google tools
[02:57] <thafreak> you have to *WORK* to be good with it :)
[02:57] <BiosElement> ahaha
[02:57] <thafreak> not click click, look I'm a programmer...
[02:57] <dmcglone> click click look /me is a programmer
[02:58] <dmcglone> darn!
[02:58] <dmcglone> why doesn't that work in the middle of a sentence
[02:58] <thafreak> haha, actually, try ubuntu "quickly" some time...almost click clic, look i'm a programmer :)
[02:58] <canthus13> I know what I'm gonna do with that machine. I'm gonna throw Damn Vulnerable Linux on it.
[02:58] <dmcglone> stupid IRC programmers had to make my life complicated
[02:58] <dmcglone> ;-)
[02:58] <canthus13> Then I'm gonna beat up on it.
[02:59] <thafreak> canthus13: what machine?
[02:59] <canthus13> ...but I need a mouse first.
[02:59] <canthus13> thafreak: An old XP 1700+ with no hard drive.
[02:59] <dmcglone> canthus13: call billy the exterminator he'll get you a mouse
[02:59] <dmcglone> ;-)
[02:59] <thafreak> haha, I have some of those :)
[02:59] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:00] <thafreak> XP 1700 ish's not mice
[03:00] <canthus13> thafreak: I rescued it from being tossed out.
[03:01]  * canthus13 needs to go burn a copy of DVL to a DVD and boot it up.
[03:01] <thafreak> I think I might toss mine out
[03:01]  * dmcglone has already tossed 2 out
[03:01] <thafreak> I think the ata controller is bad on the mb... :/
[03:01] <canthus13> thafreak: toss the motherboard, strip it for parts.
[03:02] <thafreak> ha! What am I going to do with an XP 1800+ cpu? No one makes MB's for it anymore!
[03:02] <thafreak> And the ram is ECC...which most older boards didn't take
[03:02] <canthus13> thafreak: I keeps the stuff around for repairs.
[03:02] <thafreak> maybe...I need to reduce the number of machines running 24/7 in my basement
[03:03] <dmcglone> you should still be able to find a board for the 1800
[03:03] <thafreak> actually, I may have 2 :)
[03:03] <canthus13> thafreak: nforce2 motherboards should work just fine for that processor.
[03:03] <thafreak> have 2 other machines that won't power on, but ps tests good...
[03:03]  * canthus13 has 2 of 'em right now... a 1700+ and a 2000+
[03:04] <dmcglone> I'm pretty sure the bus's on a newer mother board could handle the 1800
[03:04] <thafreak> I may have a duron 1100 too :) beat that
[03:04] <canthus13> the bus, maybe.. but not the socket.
[03:04]  * canthus13 has a Duron 600 around somewhere.
[03:04] <thafreak> damn
[03:04] <canthus13> And a P3 500 Slot 1
[03:05] <thafreak> P2 450 slot 1
[03:05] <canthus13> Nice. :)
[03:05] <thafreak> or 350 maybe
[03:05] <dmcglone> shouldn't the sockets all be the same anyhow?
[03:05] <canthus13> no
[03:05] <dmcglone> from one manufacturer to another?
[03:05] <thafreak> socket 7 for the duron and xp's yeah
[03:06] <canthus13> Socket 7 procs won't fit in AM2/AM2+/AM3 sockets...
[03:06] <dmcglone> them are AMD
[03:06] <BiosElement> I should be paid just to start discussion in here
[03:06] <dmcglone> but Socket 7's are long gone anyhow aren't they?
[03:06] <canthus13> newer processors typically add more pins, so won't run on motherboards that don't support the pinouts.
[03:07] <dmcglone> right, but isn't the 1800 pretty fairly new
[03:07] <canthus13> dmcglone: No. it's a Socket 7 proc.
[03:07] <dmcglone> ah ok
[03:07] <canthus13> AMD XP 1800+
[03:07] <dmcglone> that explains it
[03:08] <thafreak> even the newer barton based 2500 and 2800 were still socket 7 I think
[03:08] <canthus13> What was funny is that the Slot 1 and Slot A processor slots were identical, just reversed from each other.
[03:08] <dmcglone> I should charge the DSL company for keeping them in business by keeping their bits and bytes moving
[03:08] <thafreak> I've got atlest 2 of those too :)
[03:09] <dmcglone> canthus13: thats how they screw ya
[03:09] <dmcglone> they flip out on you and it cost money
[03:09] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:09] <canthus13> dmcglone: Nah. Slot A was AMD, slot 1 was Intel.
[03:10] <dmcglone> but interchangeable nontheless
[03:10] <canthus13> nope.
[03:10] <dmcglone> if they were the same
[03:10] <dmcglone> the sockets that is
[03:10] <canthus13> the pinouts were different. they just used the same physical slot component, just oriented differently.
[03:11] <dmcglone> but if they matched up the pinouts and fixed the orientation they would be interchangeable right?
[03:11] <canthus13> Nah.  the Athlon and Pentium II/IIIs used completely different pinouts and pin functions.
[03:11] <canthus13> you couldn't match the pinouts.
[03:11]  * dmcglone is gonna charge my wife for being her husband
[03:12] <dmcglone> ;-)
[03:13] <dmcglone> Ok I'm gonna move to the bedroom. I'll be  back
[03:19] <dmcglone> back
[03:19] <Unit193PPC> welcome back dmcglone
[03:20] <dmcglone> There was just a story about Assange on the news
[03:21] <dmcglone> I didn't catch it all though
[03:21] <dmcglone> brb
[03:24] <thafreak> hate it when the batteries go out on the wireless keyboard mid typing
[03:24] <thafreak> I keep thinking my text editor is misbehaving
[03:31] <dmcglone> +1 thafreak
[03:31] <dmcglone> I always blame it on the OS freezing
[03:32] <dmcglone> which reminds me, my desktop running 10.10 has been locking up a lot
[03:32] <dmcglone> twice today
[03:33] <dmcglone> I suspect it has something to do with network config
[03:34] <dmcglone> Network Manager actually
[03:35] <dmcglone> and i just noticed a second ago, that my shares aren't showing on my laptop. I bet anything the desktop has frozen
[03:36] <dmcglone> sure enough:
[03:36] <dmcglone> david@lappy:~$ sudo mount www
[03:36] <dmcglone> [sudo] password for david:
[03:36] <dmcglone> mount: No route to host
[03:36] <thafreak> what kind of shares? Just curious...
[03:37] <thafreak> you sharing linux to linux? Or mixed OS env?
[03:37] <dmcglone> my Documents is fat32 and my www is ext3
[03:37] <dmcglone> it's linux 2 linux, but windows is able to share the Documents too
[03:38] <dmcglone> but I never boot to windows
[03:39] <thafreak> but are you sharing them with nfs, cifs, something else?
[03:39] <dmcglone> cifs
[03:39] <dmcglone> I'm using samba actually
[03:39] <thafreak> ah ok...you using the built in stuff that is part of the gui, or did you manually configure samba?
[03:40] <dmcglone> I manually set up the shares
[03:40] <dmcglone> I just went down there and my hunch was correct, the desktop was locked up
[03:40] <dmcglone> had to do a hard reset
[03:41]  * thafreak is always thinking about re-organizing his file shares
[03:41] <dmcglone> how do you do it?
[03:41] <thafreak> currently have a mix of glusterfs shares and nfs
[03:41] <thafreak> it's a mess
[03:41] <thafreak> 3 diff machines
[03:42] <thafreak> 2 are part of a gluster storage cluster...the third actually has a VM doing nfs sharing...lol
[03:42] <dmcglone> I keep my Documents folder on my 2nd hard drive and I delete the one that is installed with Ubuntu and I symlink to the one on the other drive
[03:43] <thafreak> I don't really use the folders that get pre-created...I don't create many "documents" either though...
[03:43] <dmcglone> then I save all my stuff in there and it's always accessible
[03:43] <dmcglone> I don't create many docs either, but I save all my stuff there
[03:43] <thafreak> i do something similar, but I use unison, and sync all my machines to a central location (that's actually offsite too)
[03:44] <dmcglone> My mom lives here with me and she has 2 winblows machines so I make sure my stuff is accessible on hers just in case
[03:44] <thafreak> but I have stuff I don't sync, that's really just used on individual machines...i dunno, I'm kind of a data slob...very unorganized
[03:45] <thafreak> ah, that's always important!
[03:45] <dmcglone> yup
[03:45] <dmcglone> and we have 2 printers both of them networked so we will always be able to print
[03:46] <dmcglone> I'm usually out of ink, so I just print to her printer.. LOL
[03:46] <thafreak> get a laser man
[03:47] <dmcglone> wish I could afford one
[03:47] <thafreak> I don't print much, but I bought one like almost 3 years ago, and I still haven't replaced the toner that came with it
[03:47] <dmcglone> wow
[03:47] <thafreak> afford one? The cost less than replacement ink
[03:48] <thafreak> brother lasers, even networked ones are pretty cheap
[03:48] <dmcglone> toner isn't cheap is it?
[03:48] <Unit193PPC> how long does the ink last?
[03:48] <dmcglone> for me?
[03:48] <thafreak> I think you can get an all in one with copying , network scanning, etc for around $250...probably under $200 now
[03:48] <Unit193PPC> we pprint a ton...
[03:48] <thafreak> dunno, never had to buy toner :)
[03:48] <dmcglone> it last me a while. the reason I'm usually out is because I'm a cheapskate.. LOL
[03:49] <thafreak> I think it's in the 10's of thousands of pages before you have to replace any toner
[03:49] <dmcglone> I believe it
[03:49] <thafreak> if you print alot, toner is cheaper per page
[03:49] <thafreak> well if you don't mind printing in grey scale
[03:50] <dmcglone> my friend owns a plumbing company and they have one, but trust me the toner isn't cheap
[03:50] <thafreak> oh I'm sure it isn't, but you get like 50K pages compared to a few hundred on an ink cartride
[03:50] <thafreak> and ink is RIDICULOUS expensive
[03:50] <dmcglone> thats true
[03:51] <dmcglone> actually the ink for my HP 6500 is pretty darn cheap
[03:51] <thafreak> sure you only pay $20-$40 to replace ink, and maybe toner is like $100, but it will also last you like a year or two
[03:51] <Unit193PPC> we get it for $8
[03:51] <thafreak> per color? :)
[03:52] <thafreak> my cannon was cheap like that, but it was per color...so it was still like $24
[03:52] <Unit193PPC> crtrge
[03:52] <thafreak> well that's not too bad
[03:52] <Unit193PPC> refill
[03:52] <dmcglone> where at Unit193PPC
[03:53] <thafreak> I just know i *hate* printers, but especially inkjets...they never seem to work when I want them to
[03:53] <Unit193PPC> crtrge world
[03:53] <dmcglone> thafreak: my printer also uses 3 seperate ones for color
[03:53] <dmcglone> snack time :-)
[03:53] <Cheri703> I hate my hp printer
[03:54] <Cheri703> I want to get a laser, ideally a color laser, but $$$
[03:54] <Unit193PPC> Cheri703 do you get refills?
[03:55] <thafreak> color laser? why?
[03:55] <Cheri703> for the hp? I get reman'd cartridges
[03:55] <Cheri703> because I want color prints that are better quality than inkjet
[03:55] <thafreak> they're a waste...cost too much, take forever to print...blah...it's not like they print good pictures or anything
[03:55] <Cheri703> not for photos
[03:55] <Cheri703> for other things
[03:55] <thafreak> what's wrong with grey scale :)
[03:55] <Cheri703> and it depends on what color laser's you're using, some are REALLY good quality
[03:56] <Cheri703> if I'm printing brochures/business cards/flyers/whatever for my fledgling business, I'd rather print them at home than take them somewhere to be printed. I KNOW how much they're paying for prints, and paying 10+ times that is not so happy for me
[03:57] <thafreak> bah, brocures...
[03:57] <thafreak> :_
[03:57] <thafreak> :)
[03:57]  * Cheri703 definitely appreciates a good monochrome, but other people like shiny colors
[03:57] <thafreak> I hate brocures...they just end up in the trash after I get the company's URL from them...
[03:57]  * Cheri703 does black and white film photography
[03:57] <thafreak> if the company has no url, they go in the trash for good measure...
[03:58] <Cheri703> a lot of my target market is old people >.<
[03:58] <dmcglone> why Cheri703?
[03:58] <Cheri703> why what?
[03:59] <dmcglone> do you target older aged people
[03:59] <Cheri703> because they don't know how to use their computers
[03:59] <Cheri703> and for some reason little old people LOVE me
[03:59] <dmcglone> ok I see
[04:00] <Cheri703> not really sure why, but since I was younger, they think I'm wonderful when I help explain things to them. might as well make use of it :)
[04:00] <dmcglone> I thought you were speaking of your black and white film photography
[04:00] <thafreak> I throw old people in the trash too...no URL
[04:00] <Cheri703> no, that's a hobby
[04:00] <thafreak> ok, that was horrible
[04:00] <dmcglone> I thought I was missing some connection between that and old folks
[04:00] <dmcglone> lol
[04:01] <Cheri703> I have everything I need to set up a darkroom except for a space and chemicals
[04:01] <Cheri703> :(
[04:01]  * Cheri703 wants to have a darkroom
[04:01] <Unit193PPC> thafreak but a bit funny
[04:01] <dmcglone> Cheri703: turn out the lights
[04:01] <dmcglone> ;-)
[04:01] <Cheri703> not quite
[04:02] <dmcglone> so what my cousin did, paint the windows black
[04:02] <dmcglone> do
[04:02] <Cheri703> rental house with a total of 5 rooms, counting the bathroom, probalby not :)
[04:02] <Cheri703> *probably
[04:03] <dmcglone> my last statement lacked the sarcasm I intended
[04:03] <canthus13> Whee. brasero won't install in Knoppix.  K3b will, though.
[04:03] <dmcglone> my cousin is "weird" to put it nicely
[04:03] <dmcglone> brasero sucks anyway
[04:04] <dmcglone> I don't know how many CD-R's I've lost with brasero
[04:04] <thafreak> haha, I haven't had any problems with brasero
[04:04] <canthus13> I don't mind it for most stuff.   Problem I'm having is that all burns fail on this machine.. Not sure if it's the drive or something with my install.
[04:04] <thafreak> course I use wodim almost as frequently
[04:04] <BiosElement> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101207/00504912153/associated-press-chairman-signs-up-righthaven-begins-suing-bloggers.shtml
[04:05] <BiosElement> Associated Press is a joke, but we already know that. >.>
[04:05]  * canthus13 is booting knoppix off of his mp3 player so he can test it.. unfortunately, knoppix doesn't come stuck with a CD burning program, and attempting to install brasero ends in unmet dependencies.
[04:05] <thafreak> uh oh...burns failing are usualy a bad drive....course for me, it was abad sata controller I think
[04:05] <canthus13> Wasn't AP the one that was going after people for quotes as short as 3 words?
[04:06] <dmcglone> sounds like the problem I have with my laptop
[04:07] <canthus13> I need to figure it out quick. warranty on this laptop runs out in a couple of weeks.
[04:08] <dmcglone> canthus13: can you burn with k3b?
[04:09] <dmcglone> and hopefully your not using Memorex CD's
[04:11] <dmcglone> haha check this out: http://www.amazon.com/Continuos-printers-cartridge-pigment-Officejet/dp/B0033ZVPJY
[04:11] <dmcglone> looks like a blood bank
[04:12] <Cheri703> I would think that'd run into the expiration date issue that hp ink has
[04:12] <canthus13> Bah. It appears to be the drive.
[04:13] <canthus13> Well, time to reboot.
[04:13] <dmcglone> how can you tell?
[04:15] <Cheri703> I'm annoyed. I can't find a dang xp driver for this wireless card :(
[04:16] <Unit193> What card?
[04:16] <dmcglone> whats the model # on the card?
[04:16] <Cheri703> broadcom bcm 94312hmg
[04:18] <dmcglone> http://www.user-guides.co.uk/download/download/downloaddriver/download-driver-broadcom-94312hmg-xp.html
[04:18] <Cheri703> that has a crapload of unrelated links
[04:18] <thafreak> you trust those sites?
[04:19] <Cheri703> I'm #19 in dell chat queue...
[04:19] <thafreak> broadcom's site doesn't have a download?
[04:19] <Cheri703> I couldn't even find wireless support on there
[04:19] <Cheri703> woo 15 >.<
[04:19] <thafreak> oh, it's a dell? dell doesn't have an appropriate download?
[04:19] <Cheri703> they only have vista and win7
[04:19] <thafreak> lame
[04:19] <Cheri703> the laptop in question never actually shipped with xp :/
[04:20] <Cheri703> so I'm going to ask their support person if they have a driver hidden away under a different model
[04:21] <dmcglone> dang, I thought I seen the driver
[04:22] <dmcglone> ah that wasn't a link
[04:22] <dmcglone> my bad
[04:22] <Cheri703> np
[04:25] <Unit193> Cheri703: http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/pr46/pr147/broadcom_bcm94312hm.html
[04:25] <BiosElement> Yay for zdnet being anti-linux troll  central
[04:25] <BiosElement> Apparently Mark not being CEO and Matt starting another company means linux is dead
[04:25] <Cheri703> yeah, Unit193 I saw that, but no actual driver links that I could find  :/
[04:25] <BiosElement> Who knew two people were so key to the linux world ;)
[04:26] <Unit193> I'm as bad as dmcglone :(
[04:27] <dmcglone> well thanks
[04:27] <dmcglone> lol
[04:27] <Unit193> ;)
[04:27] <Cheri703> np
[04:27] <Cheri703> :)
[04:27] <Cheri703> I appreciate your efforts!
[04:27] <Cheri703> number 4 in dell queue
[04:28] <dmcglone> Cheri703: can you see if there are any other numbers on the card
[04:28] <Cheri703> did you know that the word queue is the only word in the english language (that's more than 1 letter long) that is pronounced the same with the full word, without the last two letters, or with only the first letter
[04:28] <Cheri703> also bookkeeper is the only word with 3 consecutive double letters :)
[04:28] <canthus13> hmm... bob has a DVD burner.  Now i just need to figure out how to burn a DVD iso from the command line./
[04:28] <Cheri703> I already closed it back up
[04:28] <Cheri703> that's the model number though
[04:29] <dmcglone> sometimes there are other numbers you can google that will give you clues to drivers that will work with that card
[04:30] <thafreak> canthus13: try wodim
[04:30] <dmcglone> or it might just use a 57xx series driver
[04:30] <Unit193> Like a service tag
[04:30] <Cheri703> service tag takes me to the win7/vista
[04:30] <Cheri703> I'm in dell support chat now, so we'll see
[04:31] <dmcglone> backwards compatibility my ass.. LOL
[04:32] <dmcglone> the only thing Gates was thinking of when he said that was his partner! haha
[04:33]  * canthus13 isn't gonna even bother with getting dell to replace the drive. they're not gonna ship him a drive and he's not gonna be without his laptop for two plus weeks.
[04:34] <canthus13> 40 bucks for a new one.
[04:34] <dmcglone> is it a laptop?
[04:34] <canthus13> Yep.
[04:34] <dmcglone> where did you find the drive?
[04:34] <canthus13> Oh. my dad is selling an XPS gaming laptop (3 years old) for 800 bucks.. Nice system.
[04:34] <canthus13> dmcglone: 38 and change with free shipping seems to be the going rate for them on ebay.
[04:35] <dmcglone> internal?
[04:35] <canthus13> yup.
[04:37] <dmcglone> cool just found mine for 41 bucks
[04:37] <Cheri703> "Cheri, we would not be able to get the drivers for Window XP as they are not available on the Dell site, How ever you can contact our Dell solution station at 1-888-236-3355 which is a paid support and they would be able to help you with the drivers for the computer."
[04:37] <dmcglone> I thought I was gonna have to get it from the manufacturer
[04:37] <Cheri703> RAWR!
[04:37] <Cheri703> wow I hate dell even more right now
[04:37] <dmcglone> is this for your laptop Cheri703?
[04:38] <Cheri703> boss' son's laptop that I'm setting up for a coworker
[04:38] <Cheri703> it's stupid
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[04:38] <canthus13> install linux, tell them it's windows 9.
told ya so</cough>
Dell sucks, HP RULES,<cough>
[04:39] <Cheri703> have to have ie 6 or 7
[04:39] <canthus13> HP blows.
[04:39] <Cheri703> for xerox software
[04:39] <Cheri703> it's ridiculous
[04:39] <canthus13> HP support is waaaay worse than Dell.
[04:40] <Cheri703> I have suggested toshibas many times, but boss' husband: "I only buy american!"  ...he's an idiot
[04:40] <dmcglone> who needs support, come on people we are freakin computer geeks here!!
[04:40] <canthus13> I had a 'supervisor' tell me 'Tough. you're not getting your laptop fixed.' when trying to get a defective motherboard replaced.
[04:40] <Cheri703> :(
[04:40] <canthus13> dmcglone: I'm not paying 200 bucks for a new motherboard because the original one failed due to poor manufacturing processes.
[04:41] <dmcglone> was it under warranty?
[04:41] <canthus13> Oh.. and said supervisor hung up on me when I asked for his supervisor.
[04:41] <canthus13> dmcglone: It was under an extended warranty because of the faulty motherboard and a class action suit.
[04:41] <dmcglone> thats not HP thats commerce in the US of A LMAO
[04:42] <Cheri703> canthus13: that's one thing I don't tolerate from call center folks, hanging up on me when I ask for escalation. I've worked in call centers, I know how it works, that is NEVER ok...
[04:42] <canthus13> HP basically took the 200 million that nvidia gave them to repair or replace the motherboards and ran with it.
[04:42] <dmcglone> then they were required to fix it no matter what he said
[04:42] <canthus13> Cheri703: The front line grunt was very polite and nice, escalated just like he was supposed to.
[04:43] <dmcglone> wait, now why would nvidia give HP 200 million to fix HP's problem?
[04:43] <Cheri703> I'm ...firm with customer support people on the phone...AT&T tried to not honor multiple rebate/offers that were supposed to apply when I signed up for internet in columbus, I spent an hour on the phone with them, showing them their own offer fine print, finally got them to honor all of them because nowhere did it say you couldn't combine
[04:43] <canthus13> dmcglone: It turned out to be faulty solder on some of the nforce chipsets.
[04:44] <canthus13> Cheri703: I tend to do bare minimum for people who think they need to be 'firm' with me because I'm customer support.
[04:44] <dmcglone> sounds like nvidia's fault ;-)
[04:44] <Cheri703> well, I'm talking about the ones who are trying to avoid giving me something I'm due. if they're helping me with a problem, then I'm good with them
[04:44] <canthus13> dmcglone: And nvidia owned up to it, covered the costs to repair the problems.  HP did as much as possible to avoid repairing machines.
[04:45] <Cheri703> it's when they say "oh, I'm going to charge you $200 more for something because I don't think it should apply" when their info clearly states that it should, that's when I'm firm
[04:45] <canthus13> Cheri703: I save the extra charges for people who are being jerks. :) (Like the $5 charge for adding on services..)
[04:46] <canthus13> but I also don't deal with the billing/sales side of things much. I do tech support.
[04:46] <Cheri703> canthus13: I don't start out pissed, but I get there if they're not doing their job. and unlike many people, I understand where that line might be...I've been told to jump off a building and various other less fun things when I was in a call center
[04:46] <canthus13> Cheri703: I'm the same way...
[04:47] <Unit193> It's close... ;) http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=1626659&si=516477144edda594fa924b2b15b6b64f
[04:47] <dmcglone> I just bitch em out just because then hang up the phone
[04:47] <dmcglone> just kiddin
[04:47] <canthus13> the other ones that really bug me are the 'techs' that call in. I had some idiot demanding I turn of DHCP because his static IP wasn't working. :P
[04:47] <canthus13> dmcglone: We can see your caller ID. even if you block it.  (ANI is nice...)
[04:47] <Cheri703> nice canthus13
[04:48] <Cheri703> Unit193: I'm looking :)
[04:48] <dmcglone> you can't see my caller id
[04:48] <dmcglone> LOL
[04:48] <dmcglone> I call from someone elses house
[04:48] <dmcglone> haha
[04:48] <canthus13> dmcglone: Oh? Wanna bet? ANI ignores the little flag that says 'don't look at me!'
[04:48] <canthus13> Meh.
[04:48] <dmcglone> hah
[04:49] <canthus13> The neat thing aboug CID is that it sends all the data all the time.  there's just a little flag that tells whether or not to show the information.
[04:49] <Unit193> canthus13: Not in my tests....
[04:49] <dmcglone> yeah
[04:50] <dmcglone> Ok well it's time for me to turn in.
[04:50] <dmcglone> y'all know my drill by now
[04:50] <dmcglone> lol
[04:51] <dmcglone> anyway, g'night guys I'm outta here
[04:51] <canthus13> Also, the FCC requires that all CID info be transmitted to 800 numbers, regardless of whether or not it's blocked.
[04:52] <Cheri703> wow I hate dell
[04:52] <Cheri703> I found it (I think) on their site -_-
[04:53] <Cheri703> in a different place, but still
[04:53]  * Cheri703 hearts zareason
[04:53] <Unit193> They have high prices....
[04:53] <canthus13> Ooo.. trapcall. :)
[04:54] <Cheri703> Unit193: some stuff, but overall it's good.
[04:55] <canthus13> bah. Bob's DVD burner isn't connected. :(
[04:55] <Unit193> Cheri703: Did you ever get my PM?
[04:56] <Cheri703> yeah, I saw it when I got up, is friday no good for you then?
[04:56] <Unit193> This?
[04:56] <Cheri703> yeah, that's when we'd originally discussed
[04:57] <Cheri703> tuesday and thursday next week are out for me
[04:57] <Cheri703> monday might work
[04:59] <Unit193> As long as you can stand my sister, friday will work
[04:59] <Cheri703> ok?
[05:03] <Unit193> Then that is good?
[05:03] <Unit193> canthus13: you going to use trapcall?
[05:03] <Cheri703> rawr at dell and their drivers
[05:03] <canthus13> Unit193: I don't need it, really.  But it's nice to know it's there.
[05:03]  * canthus13 has ANI at work.
[05:05] <Cheri703> can you guys look at these two links and see if there is any difference other than supported operating system? http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R214945&SystemID=inspiron1546&servicetag=B6P4ZJ1&os=WLH&osl=en&deviceid=16118&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=1&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=0&libid=5&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&source=-1&fileid=304534  http://support.us.dell.com/support
[05:05] <Cheri703> /downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R205222&formatcnt=0&libid=0&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&source=-1&fileid=289030
[05:05] <Cheri703> bah, hang on
[05:05] <Cheri703> http://support.us.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R205222&formatcnt=0&libid=0&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&source=-1&fileid=289030
[05:05] <Cheri703> and
[05:05] <Cheri703> http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R214945&SystemID=inspiron1546&servicetag=B6P4ZJ1&os=WLH&osl=en&deviceid=16118&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=1&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=0&libid=5&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&source=-1&fileid=304534
[05:06] <Cheri703> when I try to install the xp one, it says "no supported hardware"
[05:06] <Cheri703> >.<
[05:08] <Cheri703> aha!
[05:08] <Cheri703> might have it
[05:08] <Cheri703> we'll see
[05:09] <Cheri703> ha! I beat dell!
[05:09] <canthus13> It's a broadcom 4312 chipset for both.
[05:09] <canthus13> actually, seems to be the same dell model, too... 1397.
[05:10]  * canthus13 has that chipset in his laptop.
[05:10] <Cheri703> yeah
[05:10] <Cheri703> I went in and manually pointed device manager at the driver files (vs using their installer) and it's working now
[05:10] <Cheri703> :D
[05:15] <canthus13> hmm...
[05:15] <Unit193> Just went outside and did the run/stop and slide  :D
[05:15]  * canthus13 is attempting to write the DVD via command line on a machine in his basement.  Looks good so far. :)
[05:16]  * canthus13 just can't forget to remove the ISO from the machine when he's done.  that machine only has a 6gb hard drive...
[05:19] <thafreak> 6gb hard drive...but has a dvd burner? :)
[05:19] <canthus13> thafreak: Yeah.
[05:19] <thafreak> only canthus13
[05:19] <thafreak> :-P
[05:19] <canthus13> thafreak: I just threw the drive in there so my kid can play with it.  He's running a sauerbraten server.
[05:19] <thafreak> a who what now?
[05:20] <canthus13> thafreak: sauerbraten. It's an FPS... All linux.
[05:20] <canthus13> well, there may be a version for windows out there, but it's primarily linux.
[05:20] <canthus13> It has this neat little cooperative mode where you can actively edit the map as you play.
[05:20] <thafreak> yeah google beat you to the answer ;)
[05:20] <thafreak> interesting
[05:21] <thafreak> I like me some FPS
[05:21] <canthus13> now, I'm gonna toss the DVL DVD in that 1700+ (That has no hard drive. :) and see what I can do to it.
[05:24] <thafreak> hax0r into it man
[05:24] <canthus13> That's what DVL is for. :)
[05:25] <canthus13> It's like having windows with a bash prompt.
[05:26] <thafreak> haha, I know, you sent me the link a while back
[05:26] <thafreak> I was trying to sound leet....er, 1337
[05:27] <canthus13> Heh.
[05:27] <thafreak> /[^02-9][^124-9]{2}[0-689]/
[05:28] <Cheri703> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/miscellaneous/6972/
[05:28]  * Cheri703 wants a few of the "geek" patches
[05:29] <Cheri703> they have a geek work shirt, but it's a men's shirt, I want to make my own
[05:29] <thafreak> night folks...
[05:29] <Cheri703> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/golfshirts/6616/
[05:29] <Cheri703> night thafreak
[05:29]  * Cheri703 thought of the patches with the 1337 reference
[05:31] <Unit193> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/xkcd/dabb/
[05:31] <Cheri703> yeah, I was checking that one out as well :)
[05:31] <Unit193> ^ C-Mas list :)
[05:33] <Unit193> The place that had my SSH server had lost internet (I fixed it tonight)
[05:33] <Cheri703> ah, that'll do it
[05:35] <Unit193> And I was combining wordlists too (VNC to dual core) lost it :(
[08:16] <BiosElement> Awesome...
[08:16] <BiosElement> was reading an article about Wikileaks and a town that wants to declare the dude who leaked some of the stuff a hero...
[08:16] <BiosElement> I'm reading it and finding it ironic how unbalanced it is...as I'm thinking this I scroll up and oh hey look "Fox News, Fair & Balanced"... >.>
[13:47] <canthus13> bah.  Titan had to be upgraded as he suddenly forgot how to see both NICs overnight.  Appears to be a motherboard issue as transplanting the drive to another machine got him back online. :(
[13:47] <canthus13> That's two motherboards in a week. :(
[15:25] <thafreak> canthus13, the motherboard killer
[16:30] <thafreak> Wow, you see the new atom processor, 1.8ghz now with ddr3 support
[16:30] <thafreak> http://www.logicsupply.com/products/d525mw?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=d525mwlink&utm_campaign=nw1210
[16:31] <thafreak> ha, 4GB of memory cost more than the motherboard and cpu together...
[16:31] <deejoe> I don't see any TDP there
[16:32] <thafreak> TDP?
[16:33] <deejoe> thermal dissipated power
[16:33] <deejoe> 13W
[16:33] <deejoe> http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=49490
[16:33] <deejoe> but no VT
[16:34] <thafreak> ah
[16:35] <thafreak> do you really want vt on an atom? :)
[17:43] <canthus13> No vermont?
[17:45] <canthus13> But ooo... I want one.
[19:04] <BiosElement> Awesome to see BBC claiming LOIC is spyware lol
[19:04] <BiosElement> >.>
[19:05] <BiosElement> Wasn't that anon tool actually open-source?
[19:05] <BiosElement> Oh hey look yes it is
[19:06] <BiosElement> BBC fail
[19:06] <dmcglone> I never heard of LOIC
[19:07] <BiosElement> Low Orbit Ion Cannon
[19:07] <BiosElement> Network stress testing tool
[19:07] <BiosElement> Or for the 4chan kiddies, a DDoS weapon of war. >.>
[19:08] <BiosElement> BBC has a really ignorant quote related to it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11957367
[19:08] <BiosElement> Sophos researchers clearly don't know more then the boilerplate 'omg it's insecure if microsoft didn't write it...since they never do wrong.' tagline
[19:12] <dmcglone> you mean So Ho's
[19:12] <dmcglone> haha
[19:14] <BiosElement> Heh
[19:28] <dmcglone> Oh boy, I can't close firefox
[19:29] <dmcglone> had to use file->close X button wasn't working for some reason
[19:37] <BiosElement> >.>
[19:44] <Unit193> CTRL+Alt+Esc :)
[19:45] <dmcglone> http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/12/09/wikileaks.cyber.attacks/index.html
[19:54] <dmcglone1> stupid internet just drops out
[20:12] <BiosElement> Ok this this is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xLyoc9DxU
[20:29] <BiosElement> oh what the hell
[20:29] <BiosElement> Anon: "So @EFF doesn't condone cyber-vigilantism?? Wanna be next, wise guy? #AnonOps #BradAss87 #WikiLeaks"
[20:30] <BiosElement> Nice goin Anon, way to bite the hand that feeds ya
[20:34] <BiosElement> Anon tries to play the PR game but if they go after EFF there's no way they'll keep any support. >.<
[20:40] <canthus13> Is it surprising? It's Anon.  Kinda like herding mentally challenged, epileptic cats.
[20:41] <BiosElement> It is a tad suprising
[20:41] <BiosElement> Usually they're a tad more focused on the actual 'bad guys'
[20:42] <BiosElement> If they chase after EFF they're not only wasting time but they'll lose support in the process. I don't really support them but they 'do' cause people to think twice which can be a good thing at times.
[20:43] <BiosElement> Kinda good cop/bad cop only now the bad cop is yelling at the good cop >.>
[20:44] <canthus13> Nah. More like Good cop, robin hood styled psychopath.
[20:44] <BiosElement> hahaha
[20:44] <BiosElement> Accurate statement
[20:48] <canthus13> They do great stuff like busting animal abusers, then drive teenage girls to suicide.
[20:53] <BiosElement> Never heard about the second one, know about the first.
[20:59] <dmcglone> lost connection again
[20:59] <Unit193> Welcome Back dmcglone
[21:00] <dmcglone> I'm trying to fix my darn printer
[21:01] <Unit193> Did you try kicking it?
[21:02] <dmcglone> haha
[21:02] <dmcglone> I'm about to
[21:02] <Unit193> That's how I feel with the computer sometimes....
[21:02] <BiosElement> Awesome
[21:03] <BiosElement> Anon now rants about wikipedia removing their linkfarm of wikileaks mirrors >.<
[21:03] <BiosElement> Ya know, the policy that's been there for years? Yeah that was invented to censor wikileaks. :)
[21:05] <BiosElement> Apparently this is the first "Cyber War"
[21:05] <BiosElement> Who knew... >.>
[21:06] <deejoe> "'PC LOAD LETTER'! What's that?!"
[21:12] <BiosElement> Oh hey look 4chan brat arrested, ah well such a shame
[21:25] <dmcglone> anybody wanna teach me some hacking techniques :-D
[21:26] <BiosElement> I'm too busy cringing at a DDoS being called a hack >.>
[21:27] <dmcglone> are you going over to the dark side BiosElement? ;-)
[21:27] <BiosElement> lol, no. :P I don't see the point.
[21:28] <dmcglone> you can be famous like Assange! ;-)
[21:28] <BiosElement> lol, no thanks. :P
[21:29] <BiosElement> I respect the man, just like I respect RMS, but I'd never wanna be them.
[21:29] <deejoe> bah
[21:30] <deejoe> where are the arrests for the DoS against Wikileaks?
[21:31] <canthus13> deejoe: They'll happen if an ISP complains loudly enough.  they just don't make the news.
[21:33] <BiosElement> deejoe, Like germany or something
[21:34] <BiosElement> Just  a sccript kiddy tho
[21:47] <BiosElement> Yep
[21:47] <BiosElement> As expected, Anon's EFF threat is going far and wide annoying people >.>
[22:39] <dmcglone> guys, what will happen if I clean my print heads with a lint free cloth?
[22:40] <dmcglone> and a dab of water
[22:48] <canthus13> dmcglone: Use qtips and alcohol.
[22:48] <canthus13> (Not beer, silly. rubbing alcohol)
[22:48] <canthus13> water might corrode the heads.
[23:04] <dmcglone> lol
[23:04] <dmcglone> I can't seem to fix this printer
[23:07] <dmcglone> as soon as I go to print, it says "ink system failure please turn printer off then on
[23:08] <dmcglone> and it will not print
[23:09] <dmcglone> fixya.com is a crappy website!!