[00:57] http://pandalabs.pandasecurity.com/tis-the-season-of-ddos-wikileaks-editio/ [00:59] visa is under a ddos [14:24] Did I read that post that many times (re planet ubuntu)? [14:25] Which one? [14:25] hmm... Which one is it, Pici [14:26] Pici: the one that is there 10 times [14:27] EVENTS ARE LIKE SIGNALS [14:27] Yeah, I saw it a few times on there earlier today. [15:19] anyone know of source for mp3 player selling for < $7 shipped ? Tired of googling the $30 ones. [17:51] I have an extra day of vacation! [17:51] * ChinnoDog just "discovered" it [17:52] let me guess, use it or lose it? [18:07] Thats right! [18:08] It is a floating holiday I took as paid time off because I was out of the country [18:08] Meaning, I still have a floating holiday! [19:02] So will you have a 'holiday' tomorrow, ChinnoDog ? [19:03] Not tomorrow. haha [19:03] But, sometime in December! [19:04] Although, I wouldn't mind taking tomorrow. lol [19:32] InHisName: < $7, seriously? [19:32] buy a good one and use it forever [19:33] Nope, its a gift for a child who smashes things a lot. Cheap is way better. Might last a week or two plus any bonus time. [19:33] Get one made of steel? [19:33] So, reward the child who breaks things with a new one each time the child breaks it. [19:34] Nope, I have a Sansa e260. Too sensitive for the destructo person. [19:34] I'm with andrew [19:34] or find some kiddie one that might take a smashing [19:34] or wrap it in something [19:34] The reward is "all done", "bye-bye" [19:42] InHisName: This guy seems to think the Sansa Fuze is indestructable. http://www0.epinions.com/review/SanDisk_Sansa_Fuze_4_GB_MP3_Player/content_531218468484 [19:42] Title: Indestructible little music player. - SanDisk Fuze (4 GB) Digital Media Player - Epinions.com (at www0.epinions.com) [19:43] Not that indestrucatble, it has a screen. One 6lb textbook landing on the screen make a big star cracks in center. [19:44] http://gizmodo.com/160502/monolith-semi+indestructible-mp3-player-gets-a-sizeable-upgrade [19:44] Title: Monolith Semi-Indestructible MP3 Player Gets a Sizeable Upgrade (at gizmodo.com) [19:44] $200 ??? far cry from < $7 [19:45] yes, but it claims to be indestructible [19:45] A little screen is actually not very easy to break [19:45] A big screen is considerably easier [19:45] 200 / 7 = It will pay for itself in less than 30 weeks [19:46] Rather give a $5 gift and then say "oh well" try take better care on next gift when ever that my happen. [19:46] How old is this subject? [19:47] Prefer the mp3 to be new if it has a LI-ON battery. [19:48] Yes, how old? [19:48] new [19:48] zero [19:48] No, the child. How old is the child? [19:48] The child is not new. Newborns don't need mp3 players.. yet. [19:48] 8 [19:48] and 6 [19:49] That seems plenty old enough to handle a small mp3 player. You could reward good care with periodic infusions of music. [19:49] As long as it lasts. [19:49] When done, no replacements. [19:49] The longer it lasts the higher the stakes if it is damaged [19:50] Steaks ? T-bone ? [19:50] :-p [19:50] So damaged electronics bump up stakes ? [19:51] Tent stakes [19:51] keeps them from blowing away [19:51] electronics with growing music collections become more valuable as time goes on because you don't want to lose music. [19:52] backups++ [19:52] shhh. The kid is 8! [19:52] More cell phones available for staking tents, than mp3 players. [19:52] Will 8 year old make a backup, even if they know how? [19:53] ChinnoDog: Might as well teach them life lessons early on [19:53] If said 8 year old makes backups I don't think you need to worry about them taking good care of the player. [19:53] Never mind, I found one. A little higher for $9.15 shipped. Disney mix stick 1gb. NO screen. New. [19:53] valid point [19:54] InHisName: warranty? [19:54] Probably one year. [19:54] But customer abuse is usually not included. [19:56] I consider if both the player AND the headphones lasting over 60 days, then BIG success. For less than $10 not too expen$ive of an experiment. [20:08] that reminds me [20:08] I'm upgrading Josh to a slightly less crap laptop. [20:08] I think it's a lattitude 7500 [20:09] Since he hasn't broken the compaq yet. [20:09] InHisName: fun how we expect them to break things, eh? ;) [20:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXIgNnB_oq4 [20:10] Title: YouTube - HARRY POTTER Like a g6 PARODY (Like It's Quidditch) (at www.youtube.com) [20:10] Actually I expect them to learn to acquire skills at keeping electronic devices from being destroyed. Lowest cost that works is best sacrificial practice items. [20:11] thats why I gave him the compaq [20:11] well, that and it's heavy enough it's more likley to break things than be broken. [20:12] oh [20:12] inspiron, not lattitude. [20:12] it's about 12x faster though ;) [20:13] and can run linux!