[05:14] <nuvolari> mornings everyone
[05:19] <nlsthzn> Morning
[05:27] <superfly> morning all
[05:32] <nlsthzn> superfly: sup?
[05:35] <marcog> yay, living people!
[05:35] <marcog> so weird being 10 hours behind...
[05:37] <nlsthzn> marcog: u live or visiting in US?
[05:38]  * marcog in california
[05:39] <marcog> just visiting
[05:44] <nlsthzn> marcog: nice, hope u enjoy your visit (bit cold in the US now I think)
[05:46] <marcog> california's not too cold (about 15)
[05:46] <marcog> but where i'm going next will be freezing
[05:46] <marcog> vail, colorado
[05:47]  * marcog hates recruitement agencies
[05:47] <marcog> just had another one contact me this week
[05:47] <marcog> them: i'm recruiting for amazon and nimbula. let me know if you're interested blah blah
[05:48] <superfly> heh
[05:48] <marcog> me: sorry, already in direct contact with them
[05:48] <superfly> haha
[05:48] <marcog> them: i have another great company. let me know if you're interested
[05:48] <marcog> me: i'm interviewing at facebook and google (in the middle of replying to his other questions)
[05:48] <marcog> them: good luck, bye
[05:49] <superfly> heh
[05:51] <marcog> but seriously, they've only ever provided hype and no results from my experienced dealing with 4 in the past year
[05:54] <nlsthzn> marcog: nice when they contact you (means you got da skillz)... in my case I contact them, and they just ignore me
[05:54] <marcog> nlsthzn: it's a combination of skills and online presence
[05:55]  * nlsthzn decides that marcog is the man.
[05:55] <marcog> lol
[05:56] <confluency> Having a CV online is like pheromones for recruiters.
[05:56] <confluency> Doesn't guarantee that they will actually read it properly. :P
[05:57] <marcog> confluency: or that they can understand it
[05:57] <confluency> I love it when I tell them I'm not interested and they ask me to give them my friends' email addresses.  Yeeeeeah, I'm going to do your job for you for free *and* help you spam my friends.
[05:58] <marcog> i've started getting enough recruiters contact me via linkedin about random crap i default ignore them all
[05:58] <marcog> i responded to the 1st and only 1
[05:58] <confluency> Recruiters are useful when you're looking for your first job, because even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. ;)
[05:58] <marcog> response was they were looking for some marketing person
[05:58] <marcog> wtf?
[05:58] <confluency> Yeah, I kept getting these bizarre offers for a tech support position from one agent.  That agent is now in my killfile.
[05:59] <nlsthzn> I have my CV on a few sites... still, they ignore it :D
[05:59] <marcog> someone needs to create a recruitment agency review site
[05:59] <nlsthzn> I guess this is more of an IT problem
[05:59] <marcog> where you can go look them up and say "oh they fail, ignore"
[05:59] <superfly> hehe
[05:59] <superfly> marcog: that would be all of them :-P
[05:59] <marcog> cause i can't believe they're all terrible
[06:00] <superfly> at least all the ones I've dealt with
[06:00] <marcog> same here
[06:00] <confluency> The problem is that IT recruitment is mostly done by people with no understanding of the field.  This works about as well as you would expect.
[06:00] <superfly> confluency: yeah, precisely
[06:00] <marcog> confluency: indeed
[06:00] <superfly> buzzword bingo
[06:00] <marcog> i spoke to a german recruiter when i interned at google
[06:01] <superfly> I saw one of those buzzword bingo sheets they use, it had "Windows Explorer" on there as a skill *facepalm*
[06:01] <marcog> he came from one of the top recruitment agencies in switzerland
[06:01] <marcog> he couldn't believe the experiences i had
[06:01] <marcog> apparently they are awesome up there
[06:01] <marcog> superfly: wat? you kidding right?
[06:01] <superfly> marcog: I wish I was
[06:03] <confluency> I was once contacted by a really fantastic agent.  I went to a face-to-face interview with her because I was so impressed.  The next time I need a job I'll look her up -- if I can find her in my gmail archive. :/
[06:08] <oomkoos> morning people
[06:10] <nlsthzn> hi oomkoos,
[06:11] <superfly> hi oomkoos
[06:11] <confluency> xpert.co.za !
[06:11] <nlsthzn> confluency: that didn't work
[06:11] <superfly> confluency: you mean, www.xpert.co.za
[06:12] <nlsthzn> that worked
[06:12] <confluency> Whatevar. :D
[06:12] <confluency> Unfortunately the awesome agent is now apparently a sales executive for Auto Atlantic, and for all I know everyone else there sucks.
[06:14] <nlsthzn> it happens... then again, I thought the agent that got me this job in UAE was awesome... only to get here and realize how much was total crap and lies just to get you to leave your job and re-allocate half way accross the world :/
[06:17] <oomkoos> anyone got some advice for installing an onboard network card in clearOS 5.2? The nic is an Atheros AR8132. After searching forums for hours I managed to get it to pick up as __temp251#### etc (after installing an al1c atheros driver) if i do ifconfig -a but it still doesnt work. 
[06:19] <superfly> oomkoos: clearOS ?
[06:20] <confluency> oomkoos: try madwifi?
[06:20] <oomkoos> its firewall software formerly known as clarkconnect
[06:22] <oomkoos> normally i dont have any issues with it but the new mobo's we bought have only 1 pci slot (lame...) and i need 2 nic's not get it working
[06:25] <confluency> oomkoos: http://madwifi-project.org/ -- I think they have the best support for Atheros cards.  I've found references to people installing madwifi drivers on ClearOS; apparently you need to do some manual configuration.  You probably know a lot more about that part than I do. ;)
[06:26] <oomkoos> thanx confluency i'll check it out
[11:58] <afrodeity> FREE ASSANGE
[12:02] <afrodeity> y
[12:03] <drubin> What?
[12:04] <Queery> also confused
[13:05] <Kilos> afternoon superfly nuvolari and all you other fellas
[13:05] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[13:05]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[13:07] <superfly> hi Kilos
[13:09] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[13:10] <Kilos> Maaz, gracias amigo
[13:10] <Maaz> ¡de nada compadre
[13:12] <Kilos> i'm not avoiding anyone just need to stretch data and freenode refreshes here every 14 secs
[13:12] <Kilos> but i will pop in every now and again
[13:12] <Kilos> have a good afternoon all of you
[17:01] <nuvimob> lo everyone
[17:02] <nlsthzn> hi ^_^
[20:57] <Kerbero> i still have that same issue with the wireshark deb on za.mirror as i had yesterday