=== stevee_ is now known as stevee === stevee is now known as Stevee [20:32] what's the precise connection between upstart and init.d/rc's? if i have an upstart conf in /etc/init/ with "start on runlevel [2345]" do i still need to create a symlink to /lib/init/upstart-job and run update-rc.d on that? [20:32] i notice a bunch of services have presence in both directories, which is confusing [22:27] hello [22:28] for some reason, service mongrel2 status says "mongrel2 start/killed, process 12548 [22:28] " but there is no process 12548 ... doing a service mongrel2 stop does not work either ... how can I "unstuck" upstart? [23:56] rgl: sounds like its forking. 'expect fork' stanza or something along thosel ines in the config [23:56] also check the log to make sure its not just respawning really fast then stopping [23:57] Don’t add an ‘expect’ stanza unless you’re *absolutely* certain of the forking behavior of the main process. Otherwise you’ll confuse Upstart. A future release will have a better implementation of following forks. [23:58] ashb, I have respawn like in other upstart files (eg. the cron one). [23:58] i was just guessing - my upstart knowledge is teeny [23:58] oh w8... respawn does not seem the same as fork! [23:59] err [23:59] yeah respawn says restart if it crashes/stops(?) [23:59] on the previous version ... I was using expect fork too. but it does not work either.