| mhall119 | is the xubuntu iso currently >700MB also? | 12:14 |
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| charlie-tca | Good morning | 12:39 |
| mhall119 | morning charlie-tca | 13:17 |
| mhall119 | is the xubuntu iso currently >700MB also? | 13:18 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 13:18 |
| mhall119 | any idea what's causing that? Or is this typical for alpha1 isos? | 13:18 |
| charlie-tca | Alternate is about the right size, but the desktop is oversize | 13:18 |
| charlie-tca | typical about this time | 13:18 |
| mhall119 | ok | 13:18 |
| charlie-tca | caused by stuff from Ubuntu | 13:18 |
| mhall119 | I got the latest daily downloaded last night, so I'm going to try my xdg-launcher on it | 13:19 |
| charlie-tca | did it install? | 13:19 |
| mhall119 | I haven't tried it yet | 13:19 |
| charlie-tca | I can't log in today. GDM is broken | 13:19 |
| mhall119 | I'll let you know when I do | 13:20 |
| mhall119 | :( | 13:20 |
| mhall119 | not a good thing to have broken | 13:20 |
| mhall119 | can you at least ctrl+alt+f1, login as yourself, then startx? | 13:20 |
| charlie-tca | true, but only if you plan to use Nagtty | 13:20 |
| mhall119 | or xtartxfce4 | 13:20 |
| charlie-tca | startx will work with sudo, but starts the xfce session instead of xubuntu | 13:20 |
| mhall119 | start...blah | 13:20 |
| charlie-tca | I dropped down to maverick | 13:21 |
| mhall119 | oh right, I think you just need to change the XDG_CONFIG_HOME and XDG_DATA_DIRS env variables to make it use the Xubuntu defaults | 13:21 |
| charlie-tca | I keep the latest release and the development release up to date until beta or rc | 13:21 |
| charlie-tca | If the development release breaks too bad for me, I just drop back to the stable release | 13:25 |
| charlie-tca | <pitti> sudo rm -r /etc/X11/Xsession.d/52libcanberra-gtk3-module_add-to-gtk-modules/ | 15:07 |
| charlie-tca | <pitti> that's actually the proper fix :-) | 15:07 |
| charlie-tca | heh, and that makes gdm work again | 15:08 |
| charlie-tca | whew! back in natty again | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: did you get the screenshots above? | 15:27 |
| scott-work | hi, i'm scott lavender, the lead for ubuntu studio, i am presuming that xubuntu will be using gnome2 as the default session, can someone help me determine how i can do this for the ubuntu studio images? | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: how do create the session for Xubuntu ? ^ ^ | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | scott-work: actually, we use xfce, but it means a different session | 15:29 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: DOH! | 15:31 |
| scott-work | lol | 15:31 |
| scott-work | i actually knew that, but am multi-tasking coupled with i'm a dough head sometimes :P | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit or cody-somerville will know how to do what you want, though. | 15:36 |
| micahg_netbook | charlie-tca: good morning | 16:00 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning, micahg_netbook | 16:01 |
| charlie-tca | How are things looking today? | 16:01 |
| micahg_netbook | charlie-tca: ok, I have some weird things with xubuntu on my netbook with ubuntu-desktop installed | 16:01 |
| micahg_netbook | not sure what would happen w/out ubuntu-desktop | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | It's a meta-package, it is safe to remove it | 16:02 |
| micahg_netbook | charlie-tca: I meant w/out the GNOME components ;) | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | hm, that can be problematic | 16:03 |
| micahg_netbook | as in a pure xubuntu install | 16:03 |
| charlie-tca | Did you choose the xubuntu-session at GDM? | 16:03 |
| micahg_netbook | yes | 16:03 |
| charlie-tca | what kind of weird things? | 16:03 |
| micahg_netbook | well, multiple don't show this message when connecting to wireless networks | 16:04 |
| micahg_netbook | applications menu is squished like it should be the XFCE icon | 16:04 |
| * micahg_netbook needs to file some bugs | 16:04 | |
| charlie-tca | do you have both xfce-notifyd and gnome notifications installed? | 16:04 |
| * micahg_netbook checks | 16:04 | |
| charlie-tca | applications menu might have replaced gnome's menu | 16:05 |
| micahg_netbook | charlie-tca: neither actually | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | That's different | 16:05 |
| micahg_netbook | notifications seem to work, this is maverick BTW | 16:06 |
| charlie-tca | still got to use something to display those notices | 16:07 |
| charlie-tca | With gnome changes, it gets harder and harder to get things to work right when adding ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu or Xubuntu-desktop to ubuntu | 16:08 |
| charlie-tca | notify-osd should be generating those | 16:09 |
| micahg_netbook | charlie-tca: yep | 16:09 |
| charlie-tca | Hard to do anything with the multiples, though | 16:09 |
| mhall119 | /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service should tell you what program is providing the notifications service | 17:33 |
| mhall119 | woot, xdg-launcher mostly works in Xubuntu | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 18:03 |
| mhall119 | it runs anyway, but still not using the menu data I want it to be using | 18:04 |
| mhall119 | still, it's progress | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | agreed | 18:08 |
| ochosi | hey charlie-tca | 18:17 |
| ochosi | yes, got the screenshots | 18:17 |
| ochosi | to be honest i don't see any problems there... :/ | 18:17 |
| ochosi | the text is not black though, the color is 3C3C3C, if you like we can test black there | 18:22 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: bbl | 18:28 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: Please, let's test black text if we can | 18:28 |
| charlie-tca | I am looking at accessibility as much as everything else. I want to be able to say we got it right for everyone | 18:29 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu Community Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 30 minutes, agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Mettings | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | Well the agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 18:32 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu Community Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now | 19:00 |
| charlie-tca | cody-somerville: ^ ^ ^ | 19:01 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: the main work is already "roughly" done in pkg-xfce's svn repo | 19:13 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: ok, idk how to grab packages from there | 19:13 |
| mr_pouit | it probably needs a bit of polishing (e.g. delete autogenerated autotools files), but you don't need to coordinate with debian for that | 19:13 |
| mr_pouit | and I can push your changes if really needed | 19:14 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: you can grab the full repo with 'svn co svn://anonymous@svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-xfce/' | 19:14 |
| mr_pouit | (more on http://pkg-xfce.alioth.debian.org/) | 19:15 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: ok, so I do that, then test and upload? then update the wiki by moving to uploaded w/the ver #? | 19:16 |
| mr_pouit | for panel plugins, the version is not really useful, you can simply put it with the upload date, below the table yeah :) | 19:16 |
| micahg | ok | 19:19 |
| micahg | will try to do at least a couple this weekend | 19:19 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: why is xfce4 using 3.0 (native) instead of 3.0 (quilt)? | 19:45 |
| mr_pouit | it's a native metapackage, so 3.0 (quilt) isn't very useful | 19:45 |
| micahg | oh, hmm, I guess I misunderstood what it was :-/ | 19:46 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: it's a metapackage to install the mandatory packages for a basic xfce4 desktop | 19:46 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: right, that makes sense now | 19:46 |
| mr_pouit | (but we have xubuntu-desktop in ubuntu, so it's only useful when you want a very minimal install) | 19:47 |
| micahg | or if people don't want the xubuntu branding | 19:50 |
| mr_pouit | yep | 19:50 |
| mr_pouit | dinner time, bbl | 19:52 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: are we asking testing for thunderbird, or did you say to disregard that part/ | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | ? | 21:41 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: well, it'll probably be pushed to Lucid today or tomorrow, so idk if it's worth putting out a call for testing, you can mention it as an update if you like that TB in Lucid is being upgraded to 3.1.7 | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 21:43 |
| charlie-tca | thanks | 21:43 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: I'll make sure to coordinate with you for the next major update | 21:43 |
| charlie-tca | Works for me. | 21:44 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: may i ask you a few things about the screenshot again? | 22:45 |
| charlie-tca | sure | 22:45 |
| ochosi | the "gray text in liferea" screenshot, where's readability the worst for you? | 22:45 |
| charlie-tca | The text area below the titles | 22:46 |
| ochosi | i mean the tree on the left showing your subscriptions should be fine, right? | 22:46 |
| ochosi | below what titles? | 22:46 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, that is okay, I don't have to see it often | 22:46 |
| charlie-tca | The main body of text | 22:46 |
| ochosi | you mean the "radioweather writes..." stuff? | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 22:47 |
| ochosi | i see | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | that appears to be a grey text, and it blurs after a little bit | 22:47 |
| ochosi | hm, well, it isn't black as stated earlier | 22:48 |
| ochosi | would you mind quickly testing the black? | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca | Happy to try it | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca | What happens is too many grays begin to blend together | 22:49 |
| ochosi | if you could edit your /usr/share/themes/greybird/gtk-2.0/gtkrc line 7 and make the "text_color:#000000" | 22:49 |
| ochosi | since it's only this one value involved it's easiest if you just try it | 22:49 |
| ochosi | then you have to reload the theme, meaning switching back and forth | 22:50 |
| charlie-tca | That changed the feeds to black | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | and the titles above the text box | 22:53 |
| ochosi | yeah, it should in fact change all the text to black | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe it did | 22:53 |
| ochosi | unless liferea doesn't adhere to the gtk-standards | 22:53 |
| ochosi | could you just post another comparable screenshot? | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | My eyes are clouding again, makes it harder to see, but I like that | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | Does it help if I say I can read it easier? | 22:56 |
| ochosi | hehe, sure | 22:56 |
| charlie-tca | https://imagebin.org/127182 | 22:56 |
| ochosi | i mean it's just more contrasty | 22:56 |
| charlie-tca | Sometimes that matters on the monitor | 22:57 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: TB 3.1.7 was just published to -security | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | thanks, micahg | 22:57 |
| ochosi | hm, something doesn't work with the link you just posted... (404) | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | http://imagebin.org/127182 | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I have to go to a piano recital now. I will be back later. Thanks for trying, though | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | That second link worked, right? | 22:58 |
| ochosi | yep, i'll try it for a while myself and then push the change to the mercurial repository | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 22:59 |
| ochosi | no problem | 22:59 |
| ochosi | happy we're talking about stuff like this early enough | 22:59 |
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