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JontheEchidnagrr, my audio is unmuting whenever a flash applet wants to output sound :/00:04
Riddellawsomeness, amarok compiled00:21
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* apachelogger is so looking forward to qt modularization00:34
apacheloggershadeslayer: did I mention that neon fails to build?00:37
yofelapachelogger: which neon, our neon?00:46
yofelwhich reminds me that I might as well disable the failing recipes..00:47
Riddellyofel: is neon going to be in a state to publicise it soon do you think?01:04
yofelRiddell: considering that launchpad is in no state to auto-build kdelibs kdebase and kdepim, I doubt that01:04
yofelbzr needs more memory to fetch the branches than the buildds actually have01:05
macohahaha01:05
macothats awesome01:05
yofelbug 676657 - the "FIX" is just great01:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 676657 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "recipe builds can use too much memory" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67665701:06
macodo the buildds have itty bitty ram, or is bzr that hungry?01:06
yofelmaco: bzr needing >500MiB is actually not that unusual01:06
macoO_O01:06
JontheEchidnatypical pythorn01:07
kubotu_trying to hack my pvr.....sort of , but typical linux probs with drivers and unstable videp capture apps01:07
Riddellhmm, kubotu_ is in line for a kicking again01:07
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1205017 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/FilterWidget.h Get rid of an unused KLineEdit pointer in the FilterWidget header01:07
yofelmaco: try to check out https://code.launchpad.net/~maxb/kdebase/trunk for example, have fun01:07
macoyofel: no thanks itd take me a week01:08
macomaybe if i was on a connection that stall every time i so much as *think* about youtube...01:08
kubotu_no, i was doing the work01:08
yofelI'm just drawing up a wiki page that shows the status of every recipe, I'm loosing track of them..01:09
JontheEchidnakubotu_: which is the best distro?01:09
kubotu_no still on the disks, things don't go right/something probably crashes. i think it is the invasion of konsole zombies01:09
jjessemaco sounds like my hotel connection01:09
JontheEchidnahaha01:09
Riddellright, that does it01:09
kubotu_Riddell: you hurt my feelings01:10
macojjesse: 3g dongle....and for some reason at&t and t-mo dont use the same darned frequencies01:10
Riddellbah!01:10
macoRiddell: are you failing at banning?01:10
kubotu_Riddell: die!01:10
macoRiddell: oh wait i know01:10
macouse /quote remove01:10
macoinsead of /kick01:10
macoscripts that auto-rejoin on /kick often fail if you /quote remove01:10
maco(really its not as bad as staling if i think of youtube..just.... takes an hour to buffer a youtube video)01:11
yofelkubotu_: be gone!01:11
kubotu_[muon] jmthomas * 1202840 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationDetailsView/ (ApplicationDetailsWidget.cpp ApplicationDetailsWidget.h) Layouting tweaks. It'd be cool to once I find the init script yet?01:11
macowhy is kubotu doing CIAbot's job?01:12
yofelapachelogger: ...01:12
Riddellhmm, now I want to kick ubottu for msg'ing me each time I kick kubotu01:14
macohhaha01:14
JontheEchidnamaco: that's not a real commit message. the second commit message sentence is gibberish that its markov chain put together01:15
tsimpsonRiddell: I can fix that for you (tell ubottu not to /msg you)01:55
yofelfor everyone that's interested: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus02:16
* yofel is off to bed02:16
jjesseDarkwingDuck i'm changing some statuses on some bugs and also made some comments for you to follow up on RE: kubuntu-docs02:49
DarkwingDuckjjesse: Okay.02:49
DarkwingDuckjjesse: you can subscribe me to any as well...02:49
jjessewill do02:50
valorieDarkwingDuck: you never told me about the "little project" you had in mind?03:09
jjesseDarkwingDuck what project is this?03:21
DarkwingDuckGimme a few.03:21
jjesseDarkwingDuck: looks like i cleaned up the currentl reported bugs03:26
jjessehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs03:28
DarkwingDuckYeah, My inbox jsut got flooded :P:P03:32
DarkwingDuckthanks jjesse 03:32
DarkwingDuckI'm running ER sysadmin stuff right now... dropped server03:32
DarkwingDuckWell, rather, it was shut off when a process did mass scanning03:33
valoriethat doesn't sound good.....03:33
valorieI'm not in a hurry; whenever you have some time03:33
ScottKRiddell: No need to add python-all-dev on kdeedu.  doko did his own work around https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/2.6.6-6ubuntu3 so retrying the kdeedu we have a bit later should work.04:20
ScottKJontheEchidna: From http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60411517/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.85-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz I see:05:25
ScottKErrors were encountered while processing:05:26
ScottK /var/cache/apt/archives/libpolkit-qt-1-1_0.99.0-0ubuntu2_armel.deb05:26
ScottKE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:26
ScottKapt-get failed.05:26
ScottKHelp.05:26
ScottKCan't replicate it in a chroot.05:40
* ScottK will just mash retry and see what happens.05:40
ScottKapachelogger and JontheEchidna: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/2157482886 - Might be useful to review the C++ bits and see how they relate to our style guide?05:50
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apacheloggerScottK: about as different as it gets08:28
apacheloggerfrom a quick look th eonly similarities are class naming and member vars08:28
hrwmorning09:01
hrwanyone know how to disable ~/.xsession-errors in other way then "ln -sf /dev/null ~/.xsession-erros"? kde gave me 19GB file (on 60GB ssd)09:02
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ulyssesRiddell: I put the patch into debian/patches, added to debian/patches/series, run debuild -S, what's next? there's nothing useful for debdiff09:56
alleequick summary: upgrade 10.10 to 4.5.85: ssh-agent not started; plasma-panel bg dark, hardly readable http://imagebin.ca/view/Byi-zXV.html;  Application icons in panel don't work (in k-menu they work)10:07
ulyssesallee: If you disable the Blur effect the panel background should be normal10:17
* allee tries ...10:17
alleeheh, not easy to find 'blur' in german.  No blur + no window transparency (otherwise black plasmoid text over black konsole bg is no good ;)10:29
alleeulysses: thx. So it's know upstream already. Good10:29
alleeand thx10:30
ulyssesI found it hard too, in translated10:30
alleeulysses: yeah.  Switching system setting lang to en does not help as the modules are still in desktop default (german here)10:31
alleemhmm, that a (upstream) bug too :(10:32
markeyRiddell: apachelogger:10:36
markeyhttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Possible-root-vulnerability-in-Exim-internet-mailer-1150631.html10:36
markeyit might affect Ubuntu10:36
Riddellulysses: you need to add a changelog entry with dch10:46
Riddellhrw: try running kdebugdialog and turning off everything10:47
hrwthx10:48
ghostcubehmmm anyone having probs with the maverick beta ppa?10:54
markeyghostcube: works great here10:55
ghostcubehmm, i couldnt get it upadted yesterday maybe its fixed now :) 10:55
ghostcubethx markey will check later10:55
alleeBugfix: fix bashism in startkde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541830/   Diff contains string 'kubuntu' so I assume at least one hunk is kubuntu specific11:07
alleeI'll create a launchpad bug ...11:07
allee^^ bug #68851811:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 688518 in Kubuntu PPA "bashism in startkde" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68851811:15
Riddellallee: hmm, does that need a SRU?11:17
alleeRiddell: lemme check is a 'standard' maverick has == too ...11:18
RiddellI expect so11:19
Riddellapachelogger: how do I connect to ScottK's arm machine?11:19
ulyssesRiddell: I added a changelog entry11:19
Riddellulysses: then run debuild -S to make the source package11:21
Riddellthen run debdiff against an untouched version of the old source package11:21
apacheloggereh11:25
apacheloggeroh11:25
apacheloggerah11:25
apacheloggerok11:25
* apachelogger goes crazy11:25
apacheloggeres2 seems to work in qt11:25
apacheloggerbut not in plasma-mobile/qgraphicsview :O11:25
apacheloggerohm11:31
apacheloggeractually it seems limited to plasma-mobile or qml11:31
apacheloggerthe hello_es2 example seems to use a graphicsscene and that works...11:31
ulyssesRiddell: I have qt4-x11_4.7.1-0ubuntu5_source.build and qt4-x11_4.7.1-0ubuntu5_source.changes, but no -0ubuntu4_ to compare11:37
alleeRiddell:  bug is already in maverick kdebase-runtime-bin 4%3a4.5.1-0ubuntu8.  So 1.==:  passing forcing netbook mode (test is in 'or' branch) as arg1 to startkde does not work.  I assume more a developer /debug feature.   2.==:  as soon as/usr/share/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/share/autostart/plasma-mobile.desktop exits, KDEDIRS is always set to use mobile defaults.  With the fix KDEDIR is only set if startkde is called with mobile as arg1.11:50
alleeSo IMHO only extended (devel) feature are not working.  Not worth a SRU on it's own.  Better wait until something important is found and let bashism fix slip in then11:51
alleeBut the mobile and netbook users/devs have a different POV what is important11:52
* apachelogger does not follow11:52
Riddellulysses: so download it :)11:52
ulyssesRiddell: I uploaded the source.changes to PPA, it is built already:(11:53
apacheloggerthis opengl business is the suck12:01
Riddellulysses: which PPA?12:04
ulyssesRiddell: https://launchpad.net/~ulysses/+archive/testing?field.series_filter=natty12:05
Riddellulysses: lovely thanks12:05
ScottKRiddell: Did you get access sorted out?12:06
RiddellScottK: yes thanks.  aren't you away?12:08
ScottKRiddell: I am.  Mostly.12:09
Riddellyou just can't stay away from us :)12:09
ScottKBTW, I have the fix for amarok on arm.12:10
Riddellyou do?  didn't I upload that?12:11
ScottKDid you?12:11
ScottKI thought you were doing koffice?12:11
RiddellI am12:12
ScottKYou did.12:12
RiddellI uploaded the arm fix for amarok last night, but something else went wrong https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.3.90-0ubuntu212:12
ScottKIt failed for a different reason.  I just retried it.12:12
ScottK(kde4libs was uninstallable on arm when you uploaded)12:13
Riddellulysses: qt uploaded, thanks for the patch12:24
* apachelogger thinks plasma-mobile is at fault12:26
apachelogger<3 time waste12:26
apacheloggeranimatedtiles with qglwidget as viewport works12:27
apacheloggernative qglwidget works12:27
apacheloggerqmlviewer with qglwidget as viewport works12:27
apacheloggeronly plasma-mobile goes all smartass and fails12:27
apachelogger...12:27
apacheloggergo figure12:27
apacheloggermaybe one needs to recompile it12:33
* apachelogger would find that odd though12:33
Riddellallee: kdebase-workspace uploaded with bashism removed, thanks12:37
ulyssesRiddell: yww12:38
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markeyapachelogger: file dialog in VLC still takes about 1 minute to open13:00
markeysomething is really borked there...13:00
apacheloggersupposedly you shoudl talk to the KDE about it13:01
Riddellthe kde file dialogue takes a long time to open in 4.6, something to do with the hal replacements13:01
apacheloggerRiddell: fixed in beta2 for me13:02
apacheloggerat least in native kde apps13:02
Riddellit still spins up the CD driver here13:03
Riddellnot that the kde file dialogue has ever been fast though13:03
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skamsterhello all13:49
Riddellhi skamster 13:50
skamsteri like to do a fetch item (akonadi) with pykde.. but this always terminates my application.. :(13:50
skamsteri don't know where the failure is.. tokoe from the akonadi-channel meaned, this could be a binding-problem13:51
skamsterhttp://pastebin.com/2y4uZCTc13:51
Riddellskamster: you have a general Exception catch there which is generally a dangerous thing to do in python13:59
Riddellsince it'll catch any error, including the ones you weren't expecting13:59
Riddellstripping down your code to the bits that matter13:59
skamsterah, sorry, i forgott to tell that.. there is no exception, no error-message, nothing13:59
RiddellI get http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/KpwKnXHN13:59
skamsterthat's just for testing14:00
Riddellwhich gives me14:00
Riddell    self.itemfetch.setFetchScope(akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchScope.fullPayload())14:00
RiddellTypeError: ItemFetchScope.fullPayload(): first argument of unbound method must have type 'ItemFetchScope'14:00
skamsterRiddell: strange thing.. i just came till self.itemfetch = akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchJob(self.co.root())14:01
skamsterthere it does terminate14:01
skamsterprint "3" isn't executed on my pc14:02
Riddellskamster: the other obvious error I see if you're using a QApplication but then are using KDE classes14:03
Riddellthat will cause breakage14:03
Riddellyou need to use a KApplication14:03
skamsterah, ok :)14:04
Riddellyou can use e.g. this as a template https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Python/PyKDE_WebKit_Tutorial/webkit4.py14:05
\shapachelogger: I need your professional experience regarding Ruby ;)14:11
\shah forget it..I think I found the solution to my problem14:12
skamsterRiddell: many thanks.. could i use the qmainwindow anyway? or have it to be a qwidget?14:13
Riddellskamster: qmainwindow is fine, using qt classes the a KApplications is fine.  using KDE classes with a Qt application is not14:13
skamsterok, thanks :)14:14
skamstermh, on the init-part of the gui came this message: QWidget: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice14:20
skamster:s14:20
skamsterRiddell: do you know a way to create a simple qwidget in qtdesigner? or a tutorial? would be very usefull..14:27
skamsterwith qtdesigner and pyuic4 i always got this method: def setupUi(self, Form):14:36
skamsteron this line, my programm crashed since i like to do it with kapplication..14:36
skamsteri've never used the form-argument in my qt-app14:37
skamstergot someone a idea what i could give as a argument? 14:37
AndIrc___hello everybody14:42
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rbelemhey guys14:47
rbelemmy son is about to born14:48
rbelemRiddell, sabdfl, ScottK, apachelogger, ^^^14:50
rbelem\o/14:50
alleerbelem: congrats!  14:50
sabdflrbelem: congrats!14:50
rbelemi'm at hospital right now14:51
rbelemmy wife is waiting for her doctor14:51
rbelemagateau, ^14:52
rbelempersia, ^14:52
alleerbelem: ah, so things start to get interesting :)14:52
alleeMy best wishes for the next hours14:53
rbelemallee, :D14:53
alleerbelem: 1st baby?14:53
rbelemyup :D14:53
rbelemthank you allee :D14:53
alleecool!14:53
JontheEchidnarbelem: gratz!14:54
Riddellrbelem: ooh!14:55
* rbelem wants to hug everybody14:55
* allee feels the hug and hugs back 14:58
Riddellskamster: qtdesigner files act the same with a QApplication or a KApplication14:58
Riddellrbelem: can I suggest kubunto or kubunta for a name?14:58
Riddellactually that might not be good, ku means something rude in Portugese I seen to remember14:59
rbelemehehhe14:59
rbelemRiddell, his name will be Daniel. My wife decided. i had no choice :)15:00
rbelemmy battery is too low15:01
rbelemi need a power source15:01
rbelemoh! the doctor just arrived :D15:02
rbelem\o/15:02
Riddellwhat news what news?!15:02
rbelem:D15:03
Riddellwhat news what news?!15:03
skamsterRiddell: http://pastebin.com/887TDbDt15:05
skamsteri try it this way..15:05
skamsterAttributeError: 'standalone' object has no attribute 'setObjectName'15:05
Riddellskamster: standalone needs to be a QWidget15:08
Riddelltry replacing object with QWidget15:08
skamsterRuntimeError: underlying C/C++ object has been deleted15:12
skamsterthis came on form.setobjectname()15:12
rbelemthe surgery is starting15:15
Riddellrbelem: shouldn't you be holding her hand or something?15:19
Riddellskamster: trying setting standalone to be a KMainWindow15:19
skamsteri've got the same message :s15:21
skamsterah, now i've got it..15:25
skamstermany thanks :)15:25
skamsterKMainWindow.__init__(self, parent)15:25
skamsterthis line was missing15:26
Riddellskamster: ah hah15:34
skamster..and now also the akonadi-exceptions appeared :D15:35
Riddellskamster: if it's the same error "TypeError: ItemFetchScope.fullPayload(): first argument of unbound method must have type 'ItemFetchScope'15:40
Riddellthen you need to add the necessary argument to fullPayload()15:40
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1205252 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (7 files in 5 dirs) Move sleep suppression and canExit handling fully into MuonMainWindow for less code duplication between MuonMainWindow derivatives15:44
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1205254 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 3 dirs) ... and since we reimplement MuonMainWindow::workerEvent(), we'll need to call it in our reimplementations if we want suspend suppression15:49
skamsterRiddell: the akonadi-part works for now, except the signal15:52
skamsterself.connect(self.itemfetch, SIGNAL("result()"), self.itemFetched)15:52
skamsterif i make a SIGNAL("result(result)"15:52
skamsterthen i became that: TypeError: type 'result' is not supported as a slot argument type15:53
skamsterelse, the method is never used..15:53
Riddellskamster: where are the API docs for itemfetch's class?15:54
skamsterhttp://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.ItemFetchJob.html#itemsReceived15:55
skamsteri tried both signals..15:55
skamsteritemsReceived and result.. result is to find in the exampe15:55
skamster*example15:55
skamsterthe result is the same on both signals15:56
Riddellso try   SIGNAL("itemsReceived([Akonadi.Item])")15:57
skamsterTypeError: type '[Akonadi.Item]' is not supported as a slot argument type15:57
Riddelltry  SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List &items)")15:58
skamsterTypeError: type 'Akonadi::Item::List&items' is not supported as a slot argument type15:59
tsimpsonyou dont use variable names, only types15:59
skamstermh, but isn't the slot the third argument anyway?15:59
tsimpsonjust take out the "items" part16:00
Riddelltsimpson:   SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List)")  ?16:00
skamster        self.connect(self.itemfetch,  SIGNAL("itemsReceived(Akonadi::Item::List)"), self.itemFetched)16:01
skamsterthis "works"16:01
tsimpsonSIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List&)")16:01
skamsterthe method isn't used, but it don't crash..16:01
tsimpsonthe const and & get stripped by Qt internally anyway16:01
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skamstertsimpson: thanks :) this part work's now.. i just receive nothing.. :(16:07
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1205259 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)16:11
CIA-24Add the option of whether or not to pass the --dont-reload flag to16:11
CIA-24software-properties-kde so that muon-installer can choose not to, since it16:11
skamsterself.itemfetch = akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchJob(akonadi.Akonadi.Collection().root())16:11
skamsterself.itemfetch.fetchScope().fetchFullPayload()16:11
skamsterself.itemfetch.doStart()16:11
skamsterthis and the connector is the akonadi-code..16:11
skamsterif someone know what's wrong with that, i like to know it :)16:12
skamsteri've try to do it like in the example16:12
tsimpsonall I can see that's different is that you're instantiating an Akonadi.Collection and calling root(), but root() is static16:14
tsimpsonthat shouldn't effect anything though16:14
skamstermmh, but i do also a fetchfullpayload and a doStart.. this is the example.. http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.ItemFetchJob.html16:17
skamsterwhat should i do to get it work?16:17
skamsterroot() is ok in a first step to get all items16:17
CIA-24[muon] jmthomas * 1205261 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Qt strips "const &" from signal/slot connections, so don't put them there in the first place for a very minor optimization16:18
ulyssesRiddell: I just upgraded, the patch solved the problem16:26
Riddellulysses: awooga16:26
ulyssesqt 4.7.2 will contain the fix so we don't need the patch than16:27
tsimpsonskamster: when I run it, the job has an error (so obviously itemsReceived is never emitted), try connecting to SIGNAL("result(KJob*)") and check for error16:40
ulyssesJontheEchidna: Dragon Player wants to install some video codecs, but QApt Batch is waiting for authorization for a while, but nothing happens16:41
JontheEchidnaulysses: could be related to the polkit updates. there has been some breakage. I was right about to step away for lunch, though16:42
JontheEchidnabbiab16:42
skamstermh, with that i don't became a error but a empty array..16:53
tsimpsonthen I guess there is no data...16:55
ScottKJontheEchidna: Any ideas on http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60430957/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.85-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - It's failed for three retries now.16:56
ScottKI'm going to try installing all the build deps now and see if there's some conflict that's not in the buildlog16:58
tsimpsonboth libpolkit-qt-1-0 and libpolkit-qt-1-1 are being installed17:00
tsimpsonthat seems to be the problem there17:01
ScottKAh.17:03
ScottKThanks.17:03
ScottKSo something needs a rebuild.  I should be able to sort that.17:04
skamsterself.connect(self.collectfetch,  SIGNAL("collectionsReceived(Akonadi.Collection.List&)"), self.collectionFetched)17:06
skamsterhttp://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.CollectionFetchJob.html17:06
skamstertsimpson: do you see a problem there? it's the same message like before.. (Akonadi.Collection.List& seems to be wrong)17:07
tsimpsonyou need to use C++/Qt type names, rather than python ones17:07
tsimpsonie: Akonadi::Collection::List17:08
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skamsteryes, i saw it right now :)17:09
skamsterthanks and sorry.. i think i know now how to handle..17:09
ScottKvim being installable on armel is a huge help.17:11
billsteiAnyone using KDevelop 4.1.x via the Kubuntu Backports and Kubuntu Beta Backports ppa's ?17:13
ulysseswhy the hell I have Synaptic and not KPackageKit? o.O17:14
billsteiRiddell: FWIW - Kate 4.5.85 is not compatible with KDevelop 4.1.1 (which refuses to run), but I just tested KDevelop 4.1.60 which runs okay.17:26
ScottKWe need newer kdevplatform and kdevelop17:27
skamsterehm, could someone tell me, how i came from a collection to its content?17:28
skamsteras i understand, collections are like folders, right?17:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: ScottK so this is a snapshot of my book, read what it says just before the image : http://imagebin.ca/view/Z9Czi1c.html : :P17:30
tsimpsonskamster: looks like it can be a directory, or a server. so I guess you should inspect the url()17:30
shadeslayerRiddell: you too ^^17:30
ScottKshadeslayer: It's not completely wrong at least.17:31
skamsterah, ehm, no, i've got a collection with the right content (as .name() said)17:31
skamsteri just need to access the items17:31
shadeslayerwell .... it says that the developer is Linux Treads ... how is not wrong? :P17:31
shadeslayercompletely wrong i mean 17:32
ScottKHe was a student when he started it.17:32
shadeslayeroh .. your referring to the part where it says Unix Like?17:32
shadeslayerah ok17:32
JontheEchidnaScottK: 0ubuntu3 should fix that17:32
shadeslayerstill got the name wrong17:32
ScottKAnd it can be reasonably described as Unix alike....17:32
ScottKJontheEchidna: Thanks.17:32
shadeslayer*nod*17:33
shadeslayeranyways .. back to studying .... :(17:33
tsimpsonskamster: why can't you do that from the URL? (if it's a file:// url)17:33
skamstermmh, is this a clean way? of course i could parse again the file, but aren't there objects for that in akonadi?17:35
tsimpsonI can't see anything in Collection that would provide any "real" access17:35
CIA-24[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101210173611-yy5bnwhl1u1babtj * debian/changelog Rebuild for new polkit-qt-1 ABI break17:36
ScottKagateau: re default sizes blog post, it might be nice to have one talking about netbooks and don't assume too much screen real estate is available (recalling your kopete fix).17:48
skamsterehm, is it possible to use KABC::Addressee in pykde?18:03
skamsteri searched in google but found nothing except c++- and pykde3-examples18:03
apacheloggerRiddell: you did not run the hooks I suppose?18:19
apacheloggerarm box is at load 5.9018:19
ScottKIt seems to sustain throughput pretty well up to ~4.18:20
apacheloggeryeah, that is me :P18:21
* apachelogger applies magic everywhere he goes18:22
apacheloggermaking things more responsive18:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: silly 18:23
ScottKapachelogger: I noticed it wasn't the Make manual he was spending his time with either.18:27
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apacheloggerScottK: one would imagine that he had better things to do than giggle about crappy books18:27
apacheloggerapparently not...18:27
* apachelogger kills the arm box18:27
* apachelogger blames that all on Riddell18:28
* ScottK is starting to suspect he's actively working to remain at minion level indefinitely.18:28
ScottKIt might just be the folly of youth though.18:29
ScottKnixternal: Can haz powerpc?18:42
_Groo_hi/2 all18:45
_Groo_could anyone test kstars in 4.6 beta 2?18:46
_Groo_with my current nvidia, the window is borked, it doesnt render correctly18:46
yofelconfirmed, I get garbage18:48
_Groo_yofel: :P k im not crazy then :D18:49
yofel_Groo_: http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/kstars.png18:49
_Groo_yofel: yeah almost exactly18:49
_Groo_yofel: i cleaned the configs, etc, its not local.. its rendering problem18:49
yofelnope, I never used it before18:49
ScottK_Groo_ and yofel: Do you have compositing enabled?18:54
yofelyes18:54
ScottKHow does it look without composting?18:54
ScottKMeh.18:54
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ScottKSpelling is so hard.18:54
yofeldifferently... borked18:54
ScottKThen I'd file a bug on kdeedu at b.k.o with screen shots of both.18:56
_Groo_could anyone confirm that phonon xine is broken in beta2?19:27
_Groo_im upgrading to latest ubuntu audio team pulseaudio build so i can see if vlc phonon stops crashing with latest stable pulse19:29
_Groo_for now, only gstreamer works.. yack...19:29
_Groo_yofel: ping19:34
apacheloggerTm_T: did kopete ever consider using libpurple?19:35
yofel_Groo_: how do I check?19:35
apachelogger_Groo_: we do not care about xine19:35
apacheloggergstreamer is default19:35
apacheloggergstreamer must be obeyed19:35
apacheloggerthat is until someone cares to package the new phonon vlc19:35
apacheloggerfor which I have been asking since its release19:35
apacheloggeryet there is no package19:35
_Groo_yofel: you install phonon-xine and switch to it.. i made it work.. but he is behaving strangely19:36
apachelogger<--- one unhappy upstream riight there19:36
apachelogger_Groo_: phonon xine is unmaintained19:36
apacheloggerand will be retired upstream soonish19:36
_Groo_apachelogger: there isnt? for natty you mena?19:36
yofelhm, I have xine as preferred backend here, but using pulseaudio19:36
_Groo_apachelogger: well vlc is STILL crashing on exit :P so i cant use it ¬¬19:36
apacheloggeryeah19:36
apacheloggerfix it19:36
apacheloggertold ya19:36
_Groo_yofel: yeah me too xine + pulseaudio19:36
* yofel switches to gstreamer19:37
_Groo_apachelogger: i got the latest code from pulseaudio! with the patches you mentioned! stil crashes!!!19:37
_Groo_apachelogger: tolda ya :D19:37
apacheloggertold ya to talk to coling19:37
* apachelogger does not give a rats ass about how pulse is incapable to do proper threading19:37
_Groo_apachelogger: couldnt find coling :P19:38
_Groo_apachelogger: and you are part of the team!19:38
_Groo_and btw19:38
_Groo_isnt pulse the default for natty? in kubuntu?19:38
yofelit is19:38
apacheloggerpart of what team?19:38
_Groo_and vlc isnt going to be the default phonon in kubuntu in natty?19:39
yofel_Groo_: default for maverick too actually19:39
apacheloggerno19:39
apacheloggernever19:39
apacheloggerever19:39
_Groo_apachelogger: phonon-vlc19:39
apacheloggernot gonna happen19:39
apachelogger_Groo_: so?19:39
apacheloggerthe bug is not in vlc19:39
apacheloggernot in phonon-vlc19:39
apacheloggernot in phonon19:39
apachelogger== I am not part of the  team that creates crap software19:39
_Groo_apachelogger: who do you think they gonna believe easier? me or you?19:39
_Groo_apachelogger: its like the damn digikam guy, digikam is still crashing in beta 2, i added the dump to the bug, and he just ignores me and says its fixed.. but hes saying its fixed since 4.6 alpha!19:40
apacheloggerwell19:40
apacheloggershould I believe you then?19:41
apacheloggerI mean19:41
apacheloggercoling says the patches I pointed you at fixed the issue19:41
apacheloggeryet you say they dont19:41
apachelogger...19:41
apacheloggerwhom do I believe :P19:41
apacheloggera not official minion or a pulsehaxx0r :P19:41
_Groo_apachelogger: exactly19:41
apachelogger../../../include/QtOpenGL/../../src/opengl/qgl.h:69: fatal error: GLES2/gl2.h: No such file or19:41
apacheloggerso19:41
apacheloggershould I ever meet someone from TI19:41
apacheloggerI will probably have to punch him real hard for doing proprietary drivers19:42
apacheloggerlike19:42
apacheloggersrsly19:42
_Groo_ehehehe19:42
Quintasan\o20:00
apacheloggeroh this is so full of shit20:05
Tm_Tapachelogger: libpurple? yes, at the time all agreed we didn't want to rewrite our protocol stuff, if my failing memory serves right20:16
ulyssesnice, Dragon Player give me a crash window after I close it20:16
_Groo_ulysses: using vlc backend?20:18
_Groo_ulysses: with pulse audio?20:18
ulysses_Groo_: nope, with phonon-backend-xine, and without pulseaudio I think (I upgraded Lucid -> Maverick ->Natty)20:20
_Groo_ulysses: could you try vlc with pulse in natty? and see if it crashes too?20:21
ulysses_Groo_: with phonon-backend-vlc Dragon player don't even show the video itself, only its sound20:24
_Groo_ulysses: yeah it used to with same code in 4.5... dont know whats broken20:25
_Groo_ulysses: does it crash on exit?20:25
ulysses_Groo_: yes:(20:25
_Groo_can you paste the pulseaudio version in antty you are using?20:25
_Groo_0.9.2 final?20:26
ulysses0.9.22-0ubuntu320:26
_Groo_same as mine20:27
_Groo_bug apachelogger ;)20:27
_Groo_ulysses: btw can you do me a favor? do you have digikam installed?20:28
ulysses_Groo_: not yet20:31
_Groo_ulysses: after you install it, see if it crashes when you go to menu -> settings20:32
ulysses_Groo_: I'll do20:32
_Groo_ulysses: if it does, open a bug in bugs.kde.org, digikam ppl dont believe me :P20:33
ulysses)20:33
ulysses:)20:33
* _Groo_ thinks neither apachelogger 20:33
_Groo_[17:41] <apachelogger> whom do I believe :P [17:41] <apachelogger> a not official minion or a pulsehaxx0r :P20:34
* _Groo_ is so unapreciated :P20:35
ulyssesevillogger20:35
apachelogger...20:36
apacheloggerwhats the backtrace20:36
_Groo_apachelogger: of digikam?20:37
apacheloggeryes20:37
_Groo_apachelogger: let me get the bug20:37
_Groo_bug 25428320:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 254283 in movabletype-opensource (Ubuntu) "Please sync movabletype-opensource 4.2~rc4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25428320:37
_Groo_huu not launch20:37
_Groo_kde20:37
ulysses_Groo_: it doesn't crash for me20:37
_Groo_stupid bot20:37
_Groo_ulysses: 32 or 64 bits?20:37
ulysses_Groo_: 32 bit20:37
_Groo_ulysses: its a 64 bits but aparently20:38
_Groo_bug*20:38
_Groo_kde bug 25428320:38
ubottuKDE bug 254283 in libkipi "digikam 1 4 0 (and 1 5 0) crash as soon as i click settings / configure digikam" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25428320:38
_Groo_better :D20:38
_Groo_apachelogger: last entries, from me, have updated traces for 4.5 and 4.620:38
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apacheloggerwhat is your kipi version?20:40
apacheloggererhm20:41
apacheloggerlibkipi20:41
apacheloggeralso are kipi-plugins installed?20:41
_Groo_apachelogger: libkipi8                                                             4:4.5.85-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 and yes20:42
_Groo_apachelogger: huuu wait, kipi-plugins is still linked to libkipi720:43
_Groo_gonna rebuild with 8 and see what happens20:43
_Groo_building20:50
apacheloggergreat21:06
apacheloggernow it is filling up the memory21:06
* apachelogger kills Riddell's build21:06
apacheloggerif I got in21:06
_Groo_apachelogger: with recompiled digikam + kipi it worked :)21:12
_Groo_finally :D21:12
apacheloggerwe all know what to do then...21:12
* Tm_T hides21:13
allee-k_Groo_: sound like a binary incompatible change in 4.6, doesn't it?21:13
CIA-24[libqapt] jmthomas * 1205319 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.h API documentation updates, including making note of which functions are asynchronous and have signals to report events/data.21:14
_Groo_going home, seeya guys later21:17
apacheloggerallee-k: apparenlty it did not21:30
apacheloggerallee-k: well, actually it really does not ;)21:30
apacheloggerit just happens that one version of the lib is fixed and the old one is not and we currently use the old one ^^21:31
Messanger world leaders setting you all up right now to get microchipped by RFID microchips with identity/healthcare/credit information into their new world order why they are folding the economy , their solution to the problem they are causing is the RFID microchip  http://www.scribd.com/doc/44997148/The-Mark-of-the-Beast    Romans 10:13 all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.21:40
allee-kapachelogger: ah, so double-broken bin compat to be  binary compatible again.  Good :)21:43
apacheloggerI do not follow21:44
apacheloggerkipi7 & kipi8 are not abi compatbile21:45
apacheloggerthus the difference in version?21:45
apacheloggerjussi: we has gotten the spam it seems21:47
yofelapachelogger: btw, about my icecc issue before: it seems that to icecc it seems that a running boinc client is a valid reason NOT to use a system (even if it's niced) - so my fault21:55
allee-kapachelogger: ups. then you're right of course.22:01
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valorieany news from rbelem?22:39
nixternalScottK: firing the ppc up, did you shut it down?22:52
nixternalScottK: it is fired up for you22:54
* nixternal heads out for the evening22:55
apacheloggerguess what23:44
apacheloggerI am in a fun mood23:45
apacheloggeragain23:45
apacheloggernixternal, ScottK: you surely could do some mad WoL thing23:45
valorieit's friday night, apachelogger!23:50
valorietime for fun!23:50
apacheloggeryus yus23:55
apacheloggeralso I have a bit of a PITA from the opengles stuff on the n90023:55

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