[00:04] grr, my audio is unmuting whenever a flash applet wants to output sound :/ [00:21] awsomeness, amarok compiled === apachelogger is now known as urllogger === urllogger is now known as apachelogger [00:34] * apachelogger is so looking forward to qt modularization [00:37] shadeslayer: did I mention that neon fails to build? [00:46] apachelogger: which neon, our neon? [00:47] which reminds me that I might as well disable the failing recipes.. [01:04] yofel: is neon going to be in a state to publicise it soon do you think? [01:04] Riddell: considering that launchpad is in no state to auto-build kdelibs kdebase and kdepim, I doubt that [01:05] bzr needs more memory to fetch the branches than the buildds actually have [01:05] hahaha [01:05] thats awesome [01:06] bug 676657 - the "FIX" is just great [01:06] Launchpad bug 676657 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "recipe builds can use too much memory" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676657 [01:06] do the buildds have itty bitty ram, or is bzr that hungry? [01:06] maco: bzr needing >500MiB is actually not that unusual [01:06] O_O [01:07] typical pythorn [01:07] trying to hack my pvr.....sort of , but typical linux probs with drivers and unstable videp capture apps [01:07] hmm, kubotu_ is in line for a kicking again [01:07] [muon] jmthomas * 1205017 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/FilterWidget.h Get rid of an unused KLineEdit pointer in the FilterWidget header [01:07] maco: try to check out https://code.launchpad.net/~maxb/kdebase/trunk for example, have fun [01:08] yofel: no thanks itd take me a week [01:08] maybe if i was on a connection that stall every time i so much as *think* about youtube... [01:08] no, i was doing the work [01:09] I'm just drawing up a wiki page that shows the status of every recipe, I'm loosing track of them.. [01:09] kubotu_: which is the best distro? [01:09] no still on the disks, things don't go right/something probably crashes. i think it is the invasion of konsole zombies [01:09] maco sounds like my hotel connection [01:09] haha [01:09] right, that does it [01:10] Riddell: you hurt my feelings [01:10] jjesse: 3g dongle....and for some reason at&t and t-mo dont use the same darned frequencies [01:10] bah! [01:10] Riddell: are you failing at banning? [01:10] Riddell: die! [01:10] Riddell: oh wait i know [01:10] use /quote remove [01:10] insead of /kick [01:10] scripts that auto-rejoin on /kick often fail if you /quote remove [01:11] (really its not as bad as staling if i think of youtube..just.... takes an hour to buffer a youtube video) [01:11] kubotu_: be gone! [01:11] [muon] jmthomas * 1202840 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationDetailsView/ (ApplicationDetailsWidget.cpp ApplicationDetailsWidget.h) Layouting tweaks. It'd be cool to once I find the init script yet? [01:12] why is kubotu doing CIAbot's job? [01:12] apachelogger: ... [01:14] hmm, now I want to kick ubottu for msg'ing me each time I kick kubotu [01:14] hhaha [01:15] maco: that's not a real commit message. the second commit message sentence is gibberish that its markov chain put together [01:55] Riddell: I can fix that for you (tell ubottu not to /msg you) [02:16] for everyone that's interested: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus [02:16] * yofel is off to bed [02:49] DarkwingDuck i'm changing some statuses on some bugs and also made some comments for you to follow up on RE: kubuntu-docs [02:49] jjesse: Okay. [02:49] jjesse: you can subscribe me to any as well... [02:50] will do [03:09] DarkwingDuck: you never told me about the "little project" you had in mind? [03:21] DarkwingDuck what project is this? [03:21] Gimme a few. [03:26] DarkwingDuck: looks like i cleaned up the currentl reported bugs [03:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs [03:32] Yeah, My inbox jsut got flooded :P:P [03:32] thanks jjesse [03:32] I'm running ER sysadmin stuff right now... dropped server [03:33] Well, rather, it was shut off when a process did mass scanning [03:33] that doesn't sound good..... [03:33] I'm not in a hurry; whenever you have some time [04:20] Riddell: No need to add python-all-dev on kdeedu. doko did his own work around https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/2.6.6-6ubuntu3 so retrying the kdeedu we have a bit later should work. [05:25] JontheEchidna: From http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60411517/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.85-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz I see: [05:26] Errors were encountered while processing: [05:26] /var/cache/apt/archives/libpolkit-qt-1-1_0.99.0-0ubuntu2_armel.deb [05:26] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [05:26] apt-get failed. [05:26] Help. [05:40] Can't replicate it in a chroot. [05:40] * ScottK will just mash retry and see what happens. [05:50] apachelogger and JontheEchidna: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/2157482886 - Might be useful to review the C++ bits and see how they relate to our style guide? === vorian is now known as Elk === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [08:28] ScottK: about as different as it gets [08:28] from a quick look th eonly similarities are class naming and member vars [09:01] morning [09:02] anyone know how to disable ~/.xsession-errors in other way then "ln -sf /dev/null ~/.xsession-erros"? kde gave me 19GB file (on 60GB ssd) === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth [09:56] Riddell: I put the patch into debian/patches, added to debian/patches/series, run debuild -S, what's next? there's nothing useful for debdiff [10:07] quick summary: upgrade 10.10 to 4.5.85: ssh-agent not started; plasma-panel bg dark, hardly readable http://imagebin.ca/view/Byi-zXV.html; Application icons in panel don't work (in k-menu they work) [10:17] allee: If you disable the Blur effect the panel background should be normal [10:17] * allee tries ... [10:29] heh, not easy to find 'blur' in german. No blur + no window transparency (otherwise black plasmoid text over black konsole bg is no good ;) [10:29] ulysses: thx. So it's know upstream already. Good [10:30] and thx [10:30] I found it hard too, in translated [10:31] ulysses: yeah. Switching system setting lang to en does not help as the modules are still in desktop default (german here) [10:32] mhmm, that a (upstream) bug too :( [10:36] Riddell: apachelogger: [10:36] http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Possible-root-vulnerability-in-Exim-internet-mailer-1150631.html [10:36] it might affect Ubuntu [10:46] ulysses: you need to add a changelog entry with dch [10:47] hrw: try running kdebugdialog and turning off everything [10:48] thx [10:54] hmmm anyone having probs with the maverick beta ppa? [10:55] ghostcube: works great here [10:55] hmm, i couldnt get it upadted yesterday maybe its fixed now :) [10:55] thx markey will check later [11:07] Bugfix: fix bashism in startkde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541830/ Diff contains string 'kubuntu' so I assume at least one hunk is kubuntu specific [11:07] I'll create a launchpad bug ... [11:15] ^^ bug #688518 [11:15] Launchpad bug 688518 in Kubuntu PPA "bashism in startkde" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688518 [11:17] allee: hmm, does that need a SRU? [11:18] Riddell: lemme check is a 'standard' maverick has == too ... [11:19] I expect so [11:19] apachelogger: how do I connect to ScottK's arm machine? [11:19] Riddell: I added a changelog entry [11:21] ulysses: then run debuild -S to make the source package [11:21] then run debdiff against an untouched version of the old source package [11:25] eh [11:25] oh [11:25] ah [11:25] ok [11:25] * apachelogger goes crazy [11:25] es2 seems to work in qt [11:25] but not in plasma-mobile/qgraphicsview :O [11:31] ohm [11:31] actually it seems limited to plasma-mobile or qml [11:31] the hello_es2 example seems to use a graphicsscene and that works... [11:37] Riddell: I have qt4-x11_4.7.1-0ubuntu5_source.build and qt4-x11_4.7.1-0ubuntu5_source.changes, but no -0ubuntu4_ to compare [11:50] Riddell: bug is already in maverick kdebase-runtime-bin 4%3a4.5.1-0ubuntu8. So 1.==: passing forcing netbook mode (test is in 'or' branch) as arg1 to startkde does not work. I assume more a developer /debug feature. 2.==: as soon as/usr/share/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/share/autostart/plasma-mobile.desktop exits, KDEDIRS is always set to use mobile defaults. With the fix KDEDIR is only set if startkde is called with mobile as arg1. [11:51] So IMHO only extended (devel) feature are not working. Not worth a SRU on it's own. Better wait until something important is found and let bashism fix slip in then [11:52] But the mobile and netbook users/devs have a different POV what is important [11:52] * apachelogger does not follow [11:52] ulysses: so download it :) [11:53] Riddell: I uploaded the source.changes to PPA, it is built already:( [12:01] this opengl business is the suck [12:04] ulysses: which PPA? [12:05] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~ulysses/+archive/testing?field.series_filter=natty [12:05] ulysses: lovely thanks [12:06] Riddell: Did you get access sorted out? [12:08] ScottK: yes thanks. aren't you away? [12:09] Riddell: I am. Mostly. [12:09] you just can't stay away from us :) [12:10] BTW, I have the fix for amarok on arm. [12:11] you do? didn't I upload that? [12:11] Did you? [12:11] I thought you were doing koffice? [12:12] I am [12:12] You did. [12:12] I uploaded the arm fix for amarok last night, but something else went wrong https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.3.90-0ubuntu2 [12:12] It failed for a different reason. I just retried it. [12:13] (kde4libs was uninstallable on arm when you uploaded) [12:24] ulysses: qt uploaded, thanks for the patch [12:26] * apachelogger thinks plasma-mobile is at fault [12:26] <3 time waste [12:27] animatedtiles with qglwidget as viewport works [12:27] native qglwidget works [12:27] qmlviewer with qglwidget as viewport works [12:27] only plasma-mobile goes all smartass and fails [12:27] ... [12:27] go figure [12:33] maybe one needs to recompile it [12:33] * apachelogger would find that odd though [12:37] allee: kdebase-workspace uploaded with bashism removed, thanks [12:38] Riddell: yww === emma is now known as em [13:00] apachelogger: file dialog in VLC still takes about 1 minute to open [13:00] something is really borked there... [13:01] supposedly you shoudl talk to the KDE about it [13:01] the kde file dialogue takes a long time to open in 4.6, something to do with the hal replacements [13:02] Riddell: fixed in beta2 for me [13:02] at least in native kde apps [13:03] it still spins up the CD driver here [13:03] not that the kde file dialogue has ever been fast though === yofel_ is now known as yofel === droidslayer is now known as Guest47447 === Guest47447 is now known as droidslayer_ [13:49] hello all [13:50] hi skamster [13:50] i like to do a fetch item (akonadi) with pykde.. but this always terminates my application.. :( [13:51] i don't know where the failure is.. tokoe from the akonadi-channel meaned, this could be a binding-problem [13:51] http://pastebin.com/2y4uZCTc [13:59] skamster: you have a general Exception catch there which is generally a dangerous thing to do in python [13:59] since it'll catch any error, including the ones you weren't expecting [13:59] stripping down your code to the bits that matter [13:59] ah, sorry, i forgott to tell that.. there is no exception, no error-message, nothing [13:59] I get http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/KpwKnXHN [14:00] that's just for testing [14:00] which gives me [14:00] self.itemfetch.setFetchScope(akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchScope.fullPayload()) [14:00] TypeError: ItemFetchScope.fullPayload(): first argument of unbound method must have type 'ItemFetchScope' [14:01] Riddell: strange thing.. i just came till self.itemfetch = akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchJob(self.co.root()) [14:01] there it does terminate [14:02] print "3" isn't executed on my pc [14:03] skamster: the other obvious error I see if you're using a QApplication but then are using KDE classes [14:03] that will cause breakage [14:03] you need to use a KApplication [14:04] ah, ok :) [14:05] you can use e.g. this as a template https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Python/PyKDE_WebKit_Tutorial/webkit4.py [14:11] <\sh> apachelogger: I need your professional experience regarding Ruby ;) [14:12] <\sh> ah forget it..I think I found the solution to my problem [14:13] Riddell: many thanks.. could i use the qmainwindow anyway? or have it to be a qwidget? [14:13] skamster: qmainwindow is fine, using qt classes the a KApplications is fine. using KDE classes with a Qt application is not [14:14] ok, thanks :) [14:20] mh, on the init-part of the gui came this message: QWidget: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice [14:20] :s [14:27] Riddell: do you know a way to create a simple qwidget in qtdesigner? or a tutorial? would be very usefull.. [14:36] with qtdesigner and pyuic4 i always got this method: def setupUi(self, Form): [14:36] on this line, my programm crashed since i like to do it with kapplication.. [14:37] i've never used the form-argument in my qt-app [14:37] got someone a idea what i could give as a argument? [14:42] hello everybody === AndIrc___ is now known as rbelem [14:47] hey guys [14:48] my son is about to born [14:50] Riddell, sabdfl, ScottK, apachelogger, ^^^ [14:50] \o/ [14:50] rbelem: congrats! [14:50] rbelem: congrats! [14:51] i'm at hospital right now [14:51] my wife is waiting for her doctor [14:52] agateau, ^ [14:52] persia, ^ [14:52] rbelem: ah, so things start to get interesting :) [14:53] My best wishes for the next hours [14:53] allee, :D [14:53] rbelem: 1st baby? [14:53] yup :D [14:53] thank you allee :D [14:53] cool! [14:54] rbelem: gratz! [14:55] rbelem: ooh! [14:55] * rbelem wants to hug everybody [14:58] * allee feels the hug and hugs back [14:58] skamster: qtdesigner files act the same with a QApplication or a KApplication [14:58] rbelem: can I suggest kubunto or kubunta for a name? [14:59] actually that might not be good, ku means something rude in Portugese I seen to remember [14:59] ehehhe [15:00] Riddell, his name will be Daniel. My wife decided. i had no choice :) [15:01] my battery is too low [15:01] i need a power source [15:02] oh! the doctor just arrived :D [15:02] \o/ [15:02] what news what news?! [15:03] :D [15:03] what news what news?! [15:05] Riddell: http://pastebin.com/887TDbDt [15:05] i try it this way.. [15:05] AttributeError: 'standalone' object has no attribute 'setObjectName' [15:08] skamster: standalone needs to be a QWidget [15:08] try replacing object with QWidget [15:12] RuntimeError: underlying C/C++ object has been deleted [15:12] this came on form.setobjectname() [15:15] the surgery is starting [15:19] rbelem: shouldn't you be holding her hand or something? [15:19] skamster: trying setting standalone to be a KMainWindow [15:21] i've got the same message :s [15:25] ah, now i've got it.. [15:25] many thanks :) [15:25] KMainWindow.__init__(self, parent) [15:26] this line was missing [15:34] skamster: ah hah [15:35] ..and now also the akonadi-exceptions appeared :D [15:40] skamster: if it's the same error "TypeError: ItemFetchScope.fullPayload(): first argument of unbound method must have type 'ItemFetchScope' [15:40] then you need to add the necessary argument to fullPayload() [15:44] [muon] jmthomas * 1205252 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (7 files in 5 dirs) Move sleep suppression and canExit handling fully into MuonMainWindow for less code duplication between MuonMainWindow derivatives [15:49] [muon] jmthomas * 1205254 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 3 dirs) ... and since we reimplement MuonMainWindow::workerEvent(), we'll need to call it in our reimplementations if we want suspend suppression [15:52] Riddell: the akonadi-part works for now, except the signal [15:52] self.connect(self.itemfetch, SIGNAL("result()"), self.itemFetched) [15:52] if i make a SIGNAL("result(result)" [15:53] then i became that: TypeError: type 'result' is not supported as a slot argument type [15:53] else, the method is never used.. [15:54] skamster: where are the API docs for itemfetch's class? [15:55] http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.ItemFetchJob.html#itemsReceived [15:55] i tried both signals.. [15:55] itemsReceived and result.. result is to find in the exampe [15:55] *example [15:56] the result is the same on both signals [15:57] so try SIGNAL("itemsReceived([Akonadi.Item])") [15:57] TypeError: type '[Akonadi.Item]' is not supported as a slot argument type [15:58] try SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List &items)") [15:59] TypeError: type 'Akonadi::Item::List&items' is not supported as a slot argument type [15:59] you dont use variable names, only types [15:59] mh, but isn't the slot the third argument anyway? [16:00] just take out the "items" part [16:00] tsimpson: SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List)") ? [16:01] self.connect(self.itemfetch, SIGNAL("itemsReceived(Akonadi::Item::List)"), self.itemFetched) [16:01] this "works" [16:01] SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List&)") [16:01] the method isn't used, but it don't crash.. [16:01] the const and & get stripped by Qt internally anyway === dbarth__ is now known as dbarth [16:07] tsimpson: thanks :) this part work's now.. i just receive nothing.. :( [16:11] [muon] jmthomas * 1205259 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) [16:11] Add the option of whether or not to pass the --dont-reload flag to [16:11] software-properties-kde so that muon-installer can choose not to, since it [16:11] self.itemfetch = akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchJob(akonadi.Akonadi.Collection().root()) [16:11] self.itemfetch.fetchScope().fetchFullPayload() [16:11] self.itemfetch.doStart() [16:11] this and the connector is the akonadi-code.. [16:12] if someone know what's wrong with that, i like to know it :) [16:12] i've try to do it like in the example [16:14] all I can see that's different is that you're instantiating an Akonadi.Collection and calling root(), but root() is static [16:14] that shouldn't effect anything though [16:17] mmh, but i do also a fetchfullpayload and a doStart.. this is the example.. http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.ItemFetchJob.html [16:17] what should i do to get it work? [16:17] root() is ok in a first step to get all items [16:18] [muon] jmthomas * 1205261 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Qt strips "const &" from signal/slot connections, so don't put them there in the first place for a very minor optimization [16:26] Riddell: I just upgraded, the patch solved the problem [16:26] ulysses: awooga [16:27] qt 4.7.2 will contain the fix so we don't need the patch than [16:40] skamster: when I run it, the job has an error (so obviously itemsReceived is never emitted), try connecting to SIGNAL("result(KJob*)") and check for error [16:41] JontheEchidna: Dragon Player wants to install some video codecs, but QApt Batch is waiting for authorization for a while, but nothing happens [16:42] ulysses: could be related to the polkit updates. there has been some breakage. I was right about to step away for lunch, though [16:42] bbiab [16:53] mh, with that i don't became a error but a empty array.. [16:55] then I guess there is no data... [16:56] JontheEchidna: Any ideas on http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60430957/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.85-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - It's failed for three retries now. [16:58] I'm going to try installing all the build deps now and see if there's some conflict that's not in the buildlog [17:00] both libpolkit-qt-1-0 and libpolkit-qt-1-1 are being installed [17:01] that seems to be the problem there [17:03] Ah. [17:03] Thanks. [17:04] So something needs a rebuild. I should be able to sort that. [17:06] self.connect(self.collectfetch, SIGNAL("collectionsReceived(Akonadi.Collection.List&)"), self.collectionFetched) [17:06] http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.CollectionFetchJob.html [17:07] tsimpson: do you see a problem there? it's the same message like before.. (Akonadi.Collection.List& seems to be wrong) [17:07] you need to use C++/Qt type names, rather than python ones [17:08] ie: Akonadi::Collection::List === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [17:09] yes, i saw it right now :) [17:09] thanks and sorry.. i think i know now how to handle.. [17:11] vim being installable on armel is a huge help. [17:13] Anyone using KDevelop 4.1.x via the Kubuntu Backports and Kubuntu Beta Backports ppa's ? [17:14] why the hell I have Synaptic and not KPackageKit? o.O [17:26] Riddell: FWIW - Kate 4.5.85 is not compatible with KDevelop 4.1.1 (which refuses to run), but I just tested KDevelop 4.1.60 which runs okay. [17:27] We need newer kdevplatform and kdevelop [17:28] ehm, could someone tell me, how i came from a collection to its content? [17:28] as i understand, collections are like folders, right? [17:30] apachelogger: ScottK so this is a snapshot of my book, read what it says just before the image : http://imagebin.ca/view/Z9Czi1c.html : :P [17:30] skamster: looks like it can be a directory, or a server. so I guess you should inspect the url() [17:30] Riddell: you too ^^ [17:31] shadeslayer: It's not completely wrong at least. [17:31] ah, ehm, no, i've got a collection with the right content (as .name() said) [17:31] i just need to access the items [17:31] well .... it says that the developer is Linux Treads ... how is not wrong? :P [17:32] completely wrong i mean [17:32] He was a student when he started it. [17:32] oh .. your referring to the part where it says Unix Like? [17:32] ah ok [17:32] ScottK: 0ubuntu3 should fix that [17:32] still got the name wrong [17:32] And it can be reasonably described as Unix alike.... [17:32] JontheEchidna: Thanks. [17:33] *nod* [17:33] anyways .. back to studying .... :( [17:33] skamster: why can't you do that from the URL? (if it's a file:// url) [17:35] mmh, is this a clean way? of course i could parse again the file, but aren't there objects for that in akonadi? [17:35] I can't see anything in Collection that would provide any "real" access [17:36] [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101210173611-yy5bnwhl1u1babtj * debian/changelog Rebuild for new polkit-qt-1 ABI break [17:48] agateau: re default sizes blog post, it might be nice to have one talking about netbooks and don't assume too much screen real estate is available (recalling your kopete fix). [18:03] ehm, is it possible to use KABC::Addressee in pykde? [18:03] i searched in google but found nothing except c++- and pykde3-examples [18:19] Riddell: you did not run the hooks I suppose? [18:19] arm box is at load 5.90 [18:20] It seems to sustain throughput pretty well up to ~4. [18:21] yeah, that is me :P [18:22] * apachelogger applies magic everywhere he goes [18:22] making things more responsive [18:23] shadeslayer: silly [18:27] apachelogger: I noticed it wasn't the Make manual he was spending his time with either. === cmagina is now known as cmagina-meeting [18:27] ScottK: one would imagine that he had better things to do than giggle about crappy books [18:27] apparently not... [18:27] * apachelogger kills the arm box [18:28] * apachelogger blames that all on Riddell [18:28] * ScottK is starting to suspect he's actively working to remain at minion level indefinitely. [18:29] It might just be the folly of youth though. [18:42] nixternal: Can haz powerpc? [18:45] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [18:46] <_Groo_> could anyone test kstars in 4.6 beta 2? [18:46] <_Groo_> with my current nvidia, the window is borked, it doesnt render correctly [18:48] confirmed, I get garbage [18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: :P k im not crazy then :D [18:49] _Groo_: http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/kstars.png [18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah almost exactly [18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: i cleaned the configs, etc, its not local.. its rendering problem [18:49] nope, I never used it before [18:54] _Groo_ and yofel: Do you have compositing enabled? [18:54] yes [18:54] How does it look without composting? [18:54] Meh. === dbarth__ is now known as davidbarth [18:54] Spelling is so hard. [18:54] differently... borked [18:56] Then I'd file a bug on kdeedu at b.k.o with screen shots of both. [19:27] <_Groo_> could anyone confirm that phonon xine is broken in beta2? [19:29] <_Groo_> im upgrading to latest ubuntu audio team pulseaudio build so i can see if vlc phonon stops crashing with latest stable pulse [19:29] <_Groo_> for now, only gstreamer works.. yack... [19:34] <_Groo_> yofel: ping [19:35] Tm_T: did kopete ever consider using libpurple? [19:35] _Groo_: how do I check? [19:35] _Groo_: we do not care about xine [19:35] gstreamer is default [19:35] gstreamer must be obeyed [19:35] that is until someone cares to package the new phonon vlc [19:35] for which I have been asking since its release [19:35] yet there is no package [19:36] <_Groo_> yofel: you install phonon-xine and switch to it.. i made it work.. but he is behaving strangely [19:36] <--- one unhappy upstream riight there [19:36] _Groo_: phonon xine is unmaintained [19:36] and will be retired upstream soonish [19:36] <_Groo_> apachelogger: there isnt? for natty you mena? [19:36] hm, I have xine as preferred backend here, but using pulseaudio [19:36] <_Groo_> apachelogger: well vlc is STILL crashing on exit :P so i cant use it ¬¬ [19:36] yeah [19:36] fix it [19:36] told ya [19:36] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah me too xine + pulseaudio [19:37] * yofel switches to gstreamer [19:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i got the latest code from pulseaudio! with the patches you mentioned! stil crashes!!! [19:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: tolda ya :D [19:37] told ya to talk to coling [19:37] * apachelogger does not give a rats ass about how pulse is incapable to do proper threading [19:38] <_Groo_> apachelogger: couldnt find coling :P [19:38] <_Groo_> apachelogger: and you are part of the team! [19:38] <_Groo_> and btw [19:38] <_Groo_> isnt pulse the default for natty? in kubuntu? [19:38] it is [19:38] part of what team? [19:39] <_Groo_> and vlc isnt going to be the default phonon in kubuntu in natty? [19:39] _Groo_: default for maverick too actually [19:39] no [19:39] never [19:39] ever [19:39] <_Groo_> apachelogger: phonon-vlc [19:39] not gonna happen [19:39] _Groo_: so? [19:39] the bug is not in vlc [19:39] not in phonon-vlc [19:39] not in phonon [19:39] == I am not part of the team that creates crap software [19:39] <_Groo_> apachelogger: who do you think they gonna believe easier? me or you? [19:40] <_Groo_> apachelogger: its like the damn digikam guy, digikam is still crashing in beta 2, i added the dump to the bug, and he just ignores me and says its fixed.. but hes saying its fixed since 4.6 alpha! [19:40] well [19:41] should I believe you then? [19:41] I mean [19:41] coling says the patches I pointed you at fixed the issue [19:41] yet you say they dont [19:41] ... [19:41] whom do I believe :P [19:41] a not official minion or a pulsehaxx0r :P [19:41] <_Groo_> apachelogger: exactly [19:41] ../../../include/QtOpenGL/../../src/opengl/qgl.h:69: fatal error: GLES2/gl2.h: No such file or [19:41] so [19:41] should I ever meet someone from TI [19:42] I will probably have to punch him real hard for doing proprietary drivers [19:42] like [19:42] srsly [19:42] <_Groo_> ehehehe [20:00]