[00:04] <JontheEchidna> grr, my audio is unmuting whenever a flash applet wants to output sound :/
[00:21] <Riddell> awsomeness, amarok compiled
[00:34]  * apachelogger is so looking forward to qt modularization
[00:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did I mention that neon fails to build?
[00:46] <yofel> apachelogger: which neon, our neon?
[00:47] <yofel> which reminds me that I might as well disable the failing recipes..
[01:04] <Riddell> yofel: is neon going to be in a state to publicise it soon do you think?
[01:04] <yofel> Riddell: considering that launchpad is in no state to auto-build kdelibs kdebase and kdepim, I doubt that
[01:05] <yofel> bzr needs more memory to fetch the branches than the buildds actually have
[01:05] <maco> hahaha
[01:05] <maco> thats awesome
[01:06] <yofel> bug 676657 - the "FIX" is just great
[01:06] <maco> do the buildds have itty bitty ram, or is bzr that hungry?
[01:06] <yofel> maco: bzr needing >500MiB is actually not that unusual
[01:06] <maco> O_O
[01:07] <JontheEchidna> typical pythorn
[01:07] <kubotu_> trying to hack my pvr.....sort of , but typical linux probs with drivers and unstable videp capture apps
[01:07] <Riddell> hmm, kubotu_ is in line for a kicking again
[01:07] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205017 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/FilterWidget.h Get rid of an unused KLineEdit pointer in the FilterWidget header
[01:07] <yofel> maco: try to check out https://code.launchpad.net/~maxb/kdebase/trunk for example, have fun
[01:08] <maco> yofel: no thanks itd take me a week
[01:08] <maco> maybe if i was on a connection that stall every time i so much as *think* about youtube...
[01:08] <kubotu_> no, i was doing the work
[01:09] <yofel> I'm just drawing up a wiki page that shows the status of every recipe, I'm loosing track of them..
[01:09] <JontheEchidna> kubotu_: which is the best distro?
[01:09] <kubotu_> no still on the disks, things don't go right/something probably crashes. i think it is the invasion of konsole zombies
[01:09] <jjesse> maco sounds like my hotel connection
[01:09] <JontheEchidna> haha
[01:09] <Riddell> right, that does it
[01:10] <kubotu_> Riddell: you hurt my feelings
[01:10] <maco> jjesse: 3g dongle....and for some reason at&t and t-mo dont use the same darned frequencies
[01:10] <Riddell> bah!
[01:10] <maco> Riddell: are you failing at banning?
[01:10] <kubotu_> Riddell: die!
[01:10] <maco> Riddell: oh wait i know
[01:10] <maco> use /quote remove
[01:10] <maco> insead of /kick
[01:10] <maco> scripts that auto-rejoin on /kick often fail if you /quote remove
[01:11] <maco> (really its not as bad as staling if i think of youtube..just.... takes an hour to buffer a youtube video)
[01:11] <yofel> kubotu_: be gone!
[01:11] <kubotu_> [muon] jmthomas * 1202840 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationDetailsView/ (ApplicationDetailsWidget.cpp ApplicationDetailsWidget.h) Layouting tweaks. It'd be cool to once I find the init script yet?
[01:12] <maco> why is kubotu doing CIAbot's job?
[01:12] <yofel> apachelogger: ...
[01:14] <Riddell> hmm, now I want to kick ubottu for msg'ing me each time I kick kubotu
[01:14] <maco> hhaha
[01:15] <JontheEchidna> maco: that's not a real commit message. the second commit message sentence is gibberish that its markov chain put together
[01:55] <tsimpson> Riddell: I can fix that for you (tell ubottu not to /msg you)
[02:16] <yofel> for everyone that's interested: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus
[02:16]  * yofel is off to bed
[02:49] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck i'm changing some statuses on some bugs and also made some comments for you to follow up on RE: kubuntu-docs
[02:49] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: Okay.
[02:49] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: you can subscribe me to any as well...
[02:50] <jjesse> will do
[03:09] <valorie> DarkwingDuck: you never told me about the "little project" you had in mind?
[03:21] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck what project is this?
[03:21] <DarkwingDuck> Gimme a few.
[03:26] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck: looks like i cleaned up the currentl reported bugs
[03:28] <jjesse> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs
[03:32] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, My inbox jsut got flooded :P:P
[03:32] <DarkwingDuck> thanks jjesse 
[03:32] <DarkwingDuck> I'm running ER sysadmin stuff right now... dropped server
[03:33] <DarkwingDuck> Well, rather, it was shut off when a process did mass scanning
[03:33] <valorie> that doesn't sound good.....
[03:33] <valorie> I'm not in a hurry; whenever you have some time
[04:20] <ScottK> Riddell: No need to add python-all-dev on kdeedu.  doko did his own work around https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/2.6.6-6ubuntu3 so retrying the kdeedu we have a bit later should work.
[05:25] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: From http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60411517/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.85-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz I see:
[05:26] <ScottK> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:26] <ScottK>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libpolkit-qt-1-1_0.99.0-0ubuntu2_armel.deb
[05:26] <ScottK> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:26] <ScottK> apt-get failed.
[05:26] <ScottK> Help.
[05:40] <ScottK> Can't replicate it in a chroot.
[05:40]  * ScottK will just mash retry and see what happens.
[05:50] <ScottK> apachelogger and JontheEchidna: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/2157482886 - Might be useful to review the C++ bits and see how they relate to our style guide?
[08:28] <apachelogger> ScottK: about as different as it gets
[08:28] <apachelogger> from a quick look th eonly similarities are class naming and member vars
[09:01] <hrw> morning
[09:02] <hrw> anyone know how to disable ~/.xsession-errors in other way then "ln -sf /dev/null ~/.xsession-erros"? kde gave me 19GB file (on 60GB ssd)
[09:56] <ulysses> Riddell: I put the patch into debian/patches, added to debian/patches/series, run debuild -S, what's next? there's nothing useful for debdiff
[10:07] <allee> quick summary: upgrade 10.10 to 4.5.85: ssh-agent not started; plasma-panel bg dark, hardly readable http://imagebin.ca/view/Byi-zXV.html;  Application icons in panel don't work (in k-menu they work)
[10:17] <ulysses> allee: If you disable the Blur effect the panel background should be normal
[10:17]  * allee tries ...
[10:29] <allee> heh, not easy to find 'blur' in german.  No blur + no window transparency (otherwise black plasmoid text over black konsole bg is no good ;)
[10:29] <allee> ulysses: thx. So it's know upstream already. Good
[10:30] <allee> and thx
[10:30] <ulysses> I found it hard too, in translated
[10:31] <allee> ulysses: yeah.  Switching system setting lang to en does not help as the modules are still in desktop default (german here)
[10:32] <allee> mhmm, that a (upstream) bug too :(
[10:36] <markey> Riddell: apachelogger:
[10:36] <markey> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Possible-root-vulnerability-in-Exim-internet-mailer-1150631.html
[10:36] <markey> it might affect Ubuntu
[10:46] <Riddell> ulysses: you need to add a changelog entry with dch
[10:47] <Riddell> hrw: try running kdebugdialog and turning off everything
[10:48] <hrw> thx
[10:54] <ghostcube> hmmm anyone having probs with the maverick beta ppa?
[10:55] <markey> ghostcube: works great here
[10:55] <ghostcube> hmm, i couldnt get it upadted yesterday maybe its fixed now :) 
[10:55] <ghostcube> thx markey will check later
[11:07] <allee> Bugfix: fix bashism in startkde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541830/   Diff contains string 'kubuntu' so I assume at least one hunk is kubuntu specific
[11:07] <allee> I'll create a launchpad bug ...
[11:15] <allee> ^^ bug #688518
[11:17] <Riddell> allee: hmm, does that need a SRU?
[11:18] <allee> Riddell: lemme check is a 'standard' maverick has == too ...
[11:19] <Riddell> I expect so
[11:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: how do I connect to ScottK's arm machine?
[11:19] <ulysses> Riddell: I added a changelog entry
[11:21] <Riddell> ulysses: then run debuild -S to make the source package
[11:21] <Riddell> then run debdiff against an untouched version of the old source package
[11:25] <apachelogger> eh
[11:25] <apachelogger> oh
[11:25] <apachelogger> ah
[11:25] <apachelogger> ok
[11:25]  * apachelogger goes crazy
[11:25] <apachelogger> es2 seems to work in qt
[11:25] <apachelogger> but not in plasma-mobile/qgraphicsview :O
[11:31] <apachelogger> ohm
[11:31] <apachelogger> actually it seems limited to plasma-mobile or qml
[11:31] <apachelogger> the hello_es2 example seems to use a graphicsscene and that works...
[11:37] <ulysses> Riddell: I have qt4-x11_4.7.1-0ubuntu5_source.build and qt4-x11_4.7.1-0ubuntu5_source.changes, but no -0ubuntu4_ to compare
[11:50] <allee> Riddell:  bug is already in maverick kdebase-runtime-bin 4%3a4.5.1-0ubuntu8.  So 1.==:  passing forcing netbook mode (test is in 'or' branch) as arg1 to startkde does not work.  I assume more a developer /debug feature.   2.==:  as soon as/usr/share/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/share/autostart/plasma-mobile.desktop exits, KDEDIRS is always set to use mobile defaults.  With the fix KDEDIR is only set if startkde is called with mobile as arg1.
[11:51] <allee> So IMHO only extended (devel) feature are not working.  Not worth a SRU on it's own.  Better wait until something important is found and let bashism fix slip in then
[11:52] <allee> But the mobile and netbook users/devs have a different POV what is important
[11:52]  * apachelogger does not follow
[11:52] <Riddell> ulysses: so download it :)
[11:53] <ulysses> Riddell: I uploaded the source.changes to PPA, it is built already:(
[12:01] <apachelogger> this opengl business is the suck
[12:04] <Riddell> ulysses: which PPA?
[12:05] <ulysses> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~ulysses/+archive/testing?field.series_filter=natty
[12:05] <Riddell> ulysses: lovely thanks
[12:06] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you get access sorted out?
[12:08] <Riddell> ScottK: yes thanks.  aren't you away?
[12:09] <ScottK> Riddell: I am.  Mostly.
[12:09] <Riddell> you just can't stay away from us :)
[12:10] <ScottK> BTW, I have the fix for amarok on arm.
[12:11] <Riddell> you do?  didn't I upload that?
[12:11] <ScottK> Did you?
[12:11] <ScottK> I thought you were doing koffice?
[12:12] <Riddell> I am
[12:12] <ScottK> You did.
[12:12] <Riddell> I uploaded the arm fix for amarok last night, but something else went wrong https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.3.90-0ubuntu2
[12:12] <ScottK> It failed for a different reason.  I just retried it.
[12:13] <ScottK> (kde4libs was uninstallable on arm when you uploaded)
[12:24] <Riddell> ulysses: qt uploaded, thanks for the patch
[12:26]  * apachelogger thinks plasma-mobile is at fault
[12:26] <apachelogger> <3 time waste
[12:27] <apachelogger> animatedtiles with qglwidget as viewport works
[12:27] <apachelogger> native qglwidget works
[12:27] <apachelogger> qmlviewer with qglwidget as viewport works
[12:27] <apachelogger> only plasma-mobile goes all smartass and fails
[12:27] <apachelogger> ...
[12:27] <apachelogger> go figure
[12:33] <apachelogger> maybe one needs to recompile it
[12:33]  * apachelogger would find that odd though
[12:37] <Riddell> allee: kdebase-workspace uploaded with bashism removed, thanks
[12:38] <ulysses> Riddell: yww
[13:00] <markey> apachelogger: file dialog in VLC still takes about 1 minute to open
[13:00] <markey> something is really borked there...
[13:01] <apachelogger> supposedly you shoudl talk to the KDE about it
[13:01] <Riddell> the kde file dialogue takes a long time to open in 4.6, something to do with the hal replacements
[13:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: fixed in beta2 for me
[13:02] <apachelogger> at least in native kde apps
[13:03] <Riddell> it still spins up the CD driver here
[13:03] <Riddell> not that the kde file dialogue has ever been fast though
[13:49] <skamster> hello all
[13:50] <Riddell> hi skamster 
[13:50] <skamster> i like to do a fetch item (akonadi) with pykde.. but this always terminates my application.. :(
[13:51] <skamster> i don't know where the failure is.. tokoe from the akonadi-channel meaned, this could be a binding-problem
[13:51] <skamster> http://pastebin.com/2y4uZCTc
[13:59] <Riddell> skamster: you have a general Exception catch there which is generally a dangerous thing to do in python
[13:59] <Riddell> since it'll catch any error, including the ones you weren't expecting
[13:59] <Riddell> stripping down your code to the bits that matter
[13:59] <skamster> ah, sorry, i forgott to tell that.. there is no exception, no error-message, nothing
[13:59] <Riddell> I get http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/KpwKnXHN
[14:00] <skamster> that's just for testing
[14:00] <Riddell> which gives me
[14:00] <Riddell>     self.itemfetch.setFetchScope(akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchScope.fullPayload())
[14:00] <Riddell> TypeError: ItemFetchScope.fullPayload(): first argument of unbound method must have type 'ItemFetchScope'
[14:01] <skamster> Riddell: strange thing.. i just came till self.itemfetch = akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchJob(self.co.root())
[14:01] <skamster> there it does terminate
[14:02] <skamster> print "3" isn't executed on my pc
[14:03] <Riddell> skamster: the other obvious error I see if you're using a QApplication but then are using KDE classes
[14:03] <Riddell> that will cause breakage
[14:03] <Riddell> you need to use a KApplication
[14:04] <skamster> ah, ok :)
[14:05] <Riddell> you can use e.g. this as a template https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Python/PyKDE_WebKit_Tutorial/webkit4.py
[14:11] <\sh> apachelogger: I need your professional experience regarding Ruby ;)
[14:12] <\sh> ah forget it..I think I found the solution to my problem
[14:13] <skamster> Riddell: many thanks.. could i use the qmainwindow anyway? or have it to be a qwidget?
[14:13] <Riddell> skamster: qmainwindow is fine, using qt classes the a KApplications is fine.  using KDE classes with a Qt application is not
[14:14] <skamster> ok, thanks :)
[14:20] <skamster> mh, on the init-part of the gui came this message: QWidget: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice
[14:20] <skamster> :s
[14:27] <skamster> Riddell: do you know a way to create a simple qwidget in qtdesigner? or a tutorial? would be very usefull..
[14:36] <skamster> with qtdesigner and pyuic4 i always got this method: def setupUi(self, Form):
[14:36] <skamster> on this line, my programm crashed since i like to do it with kapplication..
[14:37] <skamster> i've never used the form-argument in my qt-app
[14:37] <skamster> got someone a idea what i could give as a argument? 
[14:42] <AndIrc___> hello everybody
[14:47] <rbelem> hey guys
[14:48] <rbelem> my son is about to born
[14:50] <rbelem> Riddell, sabdfl, ScottK, apachelogger, ^^^
[14:50] <rbelem> \o/
[14:50] <allee> rbelem: congrats!  
[14:50] <sabdfl> rbelem: congrats!
[14:51] <rbelem> i'm at hospital right now
[14:51] <rbelem> my wife is waiting for her doctor
[14:52] <rbelem> agateau, ^
[14:52] <rbelem> persia, ^
[14:52] <allee> rbelem: ah, so things start to get interesting :)
[14:53] <allee> My best wishes for the next hours
[14:53] <rbelem> allee, :D
[14:53] <allee> rbelem: 1st baby?
[14:53] <rbelem> yup :D
[14:53] <rbelem> thank you allee :D
[14:53] <allee> cool!
[14:54] <JontheEchidna> rbelem: gratz!
[14:55] <Riddell> rbelem: ooh!
[14:55]  * rbelem wants to hug everybody
[14:58]  * allee feels the hug and hugs back 
[14:58] <Riddell> skamster: qtdesigner files act the same with a QApplication or a KApplication
[14:58] <Riddell> rbelem: can I suggest kubunto or kubunta for a name?
[14:59] <Riddell> actually that might not be good, ku means something rude in Portugese I seen to remember
[14:59] <rbelem> ehehhe
[15:00] <rbelem> Riddell, his name will be Daniel. My wife decided. i had no choice :)
[15:01] <rbelem> my battery is too low
[15:01] <rbelem> i need a power source
[15:02] <rbelem> oh! the doctor just arrived :D
[15:02] <rbelem> \o/
[15:02] <Riddell> what news what news?!
[15:03] <rbelem> :D
[15:03] <Riddell> what news what news?!
[15:05] <skamster> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/887TDbDt
[15:05] <skamster> i try it this way..
[15:05] <skamster> AttributeError: 'standalone' object has no attribute 'setObjectName'
[15:08] <Riddell> skamster: standalone needs to be a QWidget
[15:08] <Riddell> try replacing object with QWidget
[15:12] <skamster> RuntimeError: underlying C/C++ object has been deleted
[15:12] <skamster> this came on form.setobjectname()
[15:15] <rbelem> the surgery is starting
[15:19] <Riddell> rbelem: shouldn't you be holding her hand or something?
[15:19] <Riddell> skamster: trying setting standalone to be a KMainWindow
[15:21] <skamster> i've got the same message :s
[15:25] <skamster> ah, now i've got it..
[15:25] <skamster> many thanks :)
[15:25] <skamster> KMainWindow.__init__(self, parent)
[15:26] <skamster> this line was missing
[15:34] <Riddell> skamster: ah hah
[15:35] <skamster> ..and now also the akonadi-exceptions appeared :D
[15:40] <Riddell> skamster: if it's the same error "TypeError: ItemFetchScope.fullPayload(): first argument of unbound method must have type 'ItemFetchScope'
[15:40] <Riddell> then you need to add the necessary argument to fullPayload()
[15:44] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205252 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (7 files in 5 dirs) Move sleep suppression and canExit handling fully into MuonMainWindow for less code duplication between MuonMainWindow derivatives
[15:49] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205254 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 3 dirs) ... and since we reimplement MuonMainWindow::workerEvent(), we'll need to call it in our reimplementations if we want suspend suppression
[15:52] <skamster> Riddell: the akonadi-part works for now, except the signal
[15:52] <skamster> self.connect(self.itemfetch, SIGNAL("result()"), self.itemFetched)
[15:52] <skamster> if i make a SIGNAL("result(result)"
[15:53] <skamster> then i became that: TypeError: type 'result' is not supported as a slot argument type
[15:53] <skamster> else, the method is never used..
[15:54] <Riddell> skamster: where are the API docs for itemfetch's class?
[15:55] <skamster> http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.ItemFetchJob.html#itemsReceived
[15:55] <skamster> i tried both signals..
[15:55] <skamster> itemsReceived and result.. result is to find in the exampe
[15:55] <skamster> *example
[15:56] <skamster> the result is the same on both signals
[15:57] <Riddell> so try   SIGNAL("itemsReceived([Akonadi.Item])")
[15:57] <skamster> TypeError: type '[Akonadi.Item]' is not supported as a slot argument type
[15:58] <Riddell> try  SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List &items)")
[15:59] <skamster> TypeError: type 'Akonadi::Item::List&items' is not supported as a slot argument type
[15:59] <tsimpson> you dont use variable names, only types
[15:59] <skamster> mh, but isn't the slot the third argument anyway?
[16:00] <tsimpson> just take out the "items" part
[16:00] <Riddell> tsimpson:   SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List)")  ?
[16:01] <skamster>         self.connect(self.itemfetch,  SIGNAL("itemsReceived(Akonadi::Item::List)"), self.itemFetched)
[16:01] <skamster> this "works"
[16:01] <tsimpson> SIGNAL("itemsReceived (const Akonadi::Item::List&)")
[16:01] <skamster> the method isn't used, but it don't crash..
[16:01] <tsimpson> the const and & get stripped by Qt internally anyway
[16:07] <skamster> tsimpson: thanks :) this part work's now.. i just receive nothing.. :(
[16:11] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205259 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[16:11] <CIA-24> Add the option of whether or not to pass the --dont-reload flag to
[16:11] <CIA-24> software-properties-kde so that muon-installer can choose not to, since it
[16:11] <skamster> self.itemfetch = akonadi.Akonadi.ItemFetchJob(akonadi.Akonadi.Collection().root())
[16:11] <skamster> self.itemfetch.fetchScope().fetchFullPayload()
[16:11] <skamster> self.itemfetch.doStart()
[16:11] <skamster> this and the connector is the akonadi-code..
[16:12] <skamster> if someone know what's wrong with that, i like to know it :)
[16:12] <skamster> i've try to do it like in the example
[16:14] <tsimpson> all I can see that's different is that you're instantiating an Akonadi.Collection and calling root(), but root() is static
[16:14] <tsimpson> that shouldn't effect anything though
[16:17] <skamster> mmh, but i do also a fetchfullpayload and a doStart.. this is the example.. http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.ItemFetchJob.html
[16:17] <skamster> what should i do to get it work?
[16:17] <skamster> root() is ok in a first step to get all items
[16:18] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1205261 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Qt strips "const &" from signal/slot connections, so don't put them there in the first place for a very minor optimization
[16:26] <ulysses> Riddell: I just upgraded, the patch solved the problem
[16:26] <Riddell> ulysses: awooga
[16:27] <ulysses> qt 4.7.2 will contain the fix so we don't need the patch than
[16:40] <tsimpson> skamster: when I run it, the job has an error (so obviously itemsReceived is never emitted), try connecting to SIGNAL("result(KJob*)") and check for error
[16:41] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: Dragon Player wants to install some video codecs, but QApt Batch is waiting for authorization for a while, but nothing happens
[16:42] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: could be related to the polkit updates. there has been some breakage. I was right about to step away for lunch, though
[16:42] <JontheEchidna> bbiab
[16:53] <skamster> mh, with that i don't became a error but a empty array..
[16:55] <tsimpson> then I guess there is no data...
[16:56] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Any ideas on http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60430957/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.85-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - It's failed for three retries now.
[16:58] <ScottK> I'm going to try installing all the build deps now and see if there's some conflict that's not in the buildlog
[17:00] <tsimpson> both libpolkit-qt-1-0 and libpolkit-qt-1-1 are being installed
[17:01] <tsimpson> that seems to be the problem there
[17:03] <ScottK> Ah.
[17:03] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:04] <ScottK> So something needs a rebuild.  I should be able to sort that.
[17:06] <skamster> self.connect(self.collectfetch,  SIGNAL("collectionsReceived(Akonadi.Collection.List&)"), self.collectionFetched)
[17:06] <skamster> http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.5-api/akonadi/Akonadi.CollectionFetchJob.html
[17:07] <skamster> tsimpson: do you see a problem there? it's the same message like before.. (Akonadi.Collection.List& seems to be wrong)
[17:07] <tsimpson> you need to use C++/Qt type names, rather than python ones
[17:08] <tsimpson> ie: Akonadi::Collection::List
[17:09] <skamster> yes, i saw it right now :)
[17:09] <skamster> thanks and sorry.. i think i know now how to handle..
[17:11] <ScottK> vim being installable on armel is a huge help.
[17:13] <billstei> Anyone using KDevelop 4.1.x via the Kubuntu Backports and Kubuntu Beta Backports ppa's ?
[17:14] <ulysses> why the hell I have Synaptic and not KPackageKit? o.O
[17:26] <billstei> Riddell: FWIW - Kate 4.5.85 is not compatible with KDevelop 4.1.1 (which refuses to run), but I just tested KDevelop 4.1.60 which runs okay.
[17:27] <ScottK> We need newer kdevplatform and kdevelop
[17:28] <skamster> ehm, could someone tell me, how i came from a collection to its content?
[17:28] <skamster> as i understand, collections are like folders, right?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ScottK so this is a snapshot of my book, read what it says just before the image : http://imagebin.ca/view/Z9Czi1c.html : :P
[17:30] <tsimpson> skamster: looks like it can be a directory, or a server. so I guess you should inspect the url()
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you too ^^
[17:31] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It's not completely wrong at least.
[17:31] <skamster> ah, ehm, no, i've got a collection with the right content (as .name() said)
[17:31] <skamster> i just need to access the items
[17:31] <shadeslayer> well .... it says that the developer is Linux Treads ... how is not wrong? :P
[17:32] <shadeslayer> completely wrong i mean 
[17:32] <ScottK> He was a student when he started it.
[17:32] <shadeslayer> oh .. your referring to the part where it says Unix Like?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: 0ubuntu3 should fix that
[17:32] <shadeslayer> still got the name wrong
[17:32] <ScottK> And it can be reasonably described as Unix alike....
[17:32] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Thanks.
[17:33] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[17:33] <shadeslayer> anyways .. back to studying .... :(
[17:33] <tsimpson> skamster: why can't you do that from the URL? (if it's a file:// url)
[17:35] <skamster> mmh, is this a clean way? of course i could parse again the file, but aren't there objects for that in akonadi?
[17:35] <tsimpson> I can't see anything in Collection that would provide any "real" access
[17:36] <CIA-24> [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101210173611-yy5bnwhl1u1babtj * debian/changelog Rebuild for new polkit-qt-1 ABI break
[17:48] <ScottK> agateau: re default sizes blog post, it might be nice to have one talking about netbooks and don't assume too much screen real estate is available (recalling your kopete fix).
[18:03] <skamster> ehm, is it possible to use KABC::Addressee in pykde?
[18:03] <skamster> i searched in google but found nothing except c++- and pykde3-examples
[18:19] <apachelogger> Riddell: you did not run the hooks I suppose?
[18:19] <apachelogger> arm box is at load 5.90
[18:20] <ScottK> It seems to sustain throughput pretty well up to ~4.
[18:21] <apachelogger> yeah, that is me :P
[18:22]  * apachelogger applies magic everywhere he goes
[18:22] <apachelogger> making things more responsive
[18:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: silly 
[18:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: I noticed it wasn't the Make manual he was spending his time with either.
[18:27] <apachelogger> ScottK: one would imagine that he had better things to do than giggle about crappy books
[18:27] <apachelogger> apparently not...
[18:27]  * apachelogger kills the arm box
[18:28]  * apachelogger blames that all on Riddell
[18:28]  * ScottK is starting to suspect he's actively working to remain at minion level indefinitely.
[18:29] <ScottK> It might just be the folly of youth though.
[18:42] <ScottK> nixternal: Can haz powerpc?
[18:45] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:46] <_Groo_> could anyone test kstars in 4.6 beta 2?
[18:46] <_Groo_> with my current nvidia, the window is borked, it doesnt render correctly
[18:48] <yofel> confirmed, I get garbage
[18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: :P k im not crazy then :D
[18:49] <yofel> _Groo_: http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/kstars.png
[18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah almost exactly
[18:49] <_Groo_> yofel: i cleaned the configs, etc, its not local.. its rendering problem
[18:49] <yofel> nope, I never used it before
[18:54] <ScottK> _Groo_ and yofel: Do you have compositing enabled?
[18:54] <yofel> yes
[18:54] <ScottK> How does it look without composting?
[18:54] <ScottK> Meh.
[18:54] <ScottK> Spelling is so hard.
[18:54] <yofel> differently... borked
[18:56] <ScottK> Then I'd file a bug on kdeedu at b.k.o with screen shots of both.
[19:27] <_Groo_> could anyone confirm that phonon xine is broken in beta2?
[19:29] <_Groo_> im upgrading to latest ubuntu audio team pulseaudio build so i can see if vlc phonon stops crashing with latest stable pulse
[19:29] <_Groo_> for now, only gstreamer works.. yack...
[19:34] <_Groo_> yofel: ping
[19:35] <apachelogger> Tm_T: did kopete ever consider using libpurple?
[19:35] <yofel> _Groo_: how do I check?
[19:35] <apachelogger> _Groo_: we do not care about xine
[19:35] <apachelogger> gstreamer is default
[19:35] <apachelogger> gstreamer must be obeyed
[19:35] <apachelogger> that is until someone cares to package the new phonon vlc
[19:35] <apachelogger> for which I have been asking since its release
[19:35] <apachelogger> yet there is no package
[19:36] <_Groo_> yofel: you install phonon-xine and switch to it.. i made it work.. but he is behaving strangely
[19:36] <apachelogger> <--- one unhappy upstream riight there
[19:36] <apachelogger> _Groo_: phonon xine is unmaintained
[19:36] <apachelogger> and will be retired upstream soonish
[19:36] <_Groo_> apachelogger: there isnt? for natty you mena?
[19:36] <yofel> hm, I have xine as preferred backend here, but using pulseaudio
[19:36] <_Groo_> apachelogger: well vlc is STILL crashing on exit :P so i cant use it ¬¬
[19:36] <apachelogger> yeah
[19:36] <apachelogger> fix it
[19:36] <apachelogger> told ya
[19:36] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah me too xine + pulseaudio
[19:37]  * yofel switches to gstreamer
[19:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i got the latest code from pulseaudio! with the patches you mentioned! stil crashes!!!
[19:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: tolda ya :D
[19:37] <apachelogger> told ya to talk to coling
[19:37]  * apachelogger does not give a rats ass about how pulse is incapable to do proper threading
[19:38] <_Groo_> apachelogger: couldnt find coling :P
[19:38] <_Groo_> apachelogger: and you are part of the team!
[19:38] <_Groo_> and btw
[19:38] <_Groo_> isnt pulse the default for natty? in kubuntu?
[19:38] <yofel> it is
[19:38] <apachelogger> part of what team?
[19:39] <_Groo_> and vlc isnt going to be the default phonon in kubuntu in natty?
[19:39] <yofel> _Groo_: default for maverick too actually
[19:39] <apachelogger> no
[19:39] <apachelogger> never
[19:39] <apachelogger> ever
[19:39] <_Groo_> apachelogger: phonon-vlc
[19:39] <apachelogger> not gonna happen
[19:39] <apachelogger> _Groo_: so?
[19:39] <apachelogger> the bug is not in vlc
[19:39] <apachelogger> not in phonon-vlc
[19:39] <apachelogger> not in phonon
[19:39] <apachelogger> == I am not part of the  team that creates crap software
[19:39] <_Groo_> apachelogger: who do you think they gonna believe easier? me or you?
[19:40] <_Groo_> apachelogger: its like the damn digikam guy, digikam is still crashing in beta 2, i added the dump to the bug, and he just ignores me and says its fixed.. but hes saying its fixed since 4.6 alpha!
[19:40] <apachelogger> well
[19:41] <apachelogger> should I believe you then?
[19:41] <apachelogger> I mean
[19:41] <apachelogger> coling says the patches I pointed you at fixed the issue
[19:41] <apachelogger> yet you say they dont
[19:41] <apachelogger> ...
[19:41] <apachelogger> whom do I believe :P
[19:41] <apachelogger> a not official minion or a pulsehaxx0r :P
[19:41] <_Groo_> apachelogger: exactly
[19:41] <apachelogger> ../../../include/QtOpenGL/../../src/opengl/qgl.h:69: fatal error: GLES2/gl2.h: No such file or
[19:41] <apachelogger> so
[19:41] <apachelogger> should I ever meet someone from TI
[19:42] <apachelogger> I will probably have to punch him real hard for doing proprietary drivers
[19:42] <apachelogger> like
[19:42] <apachelogger> srsly
[19:42] <_Groo_> ehehehe
[20:00] <Quintasan> \o
[20:05] <apachelogger> oh this is so full of shit
[20:16] <Tm_T> apachelogger: libpurple? yes, at the time all agreed we didn't want to rewrite our protocol stuff, if my failing memory serves right
[20:16] <ulysses> nice, Dragon Player give me a crash window after I close it
[20:18] <_Groo_> ulysses: using vlc backend?
[20:18] <_Groo_> ulysses: with pulse audio?
[20:20] <ulysses> _Groo_: nope, with phonon-backend-xine, and without pulseaudio I think (I upgraded Lucid -> Maverick ->Natty)
[20:21] <_Groo_> ulysses: could you try vlc with pulse in natty? and see if it crashes too?
[20:24] <ulysses> _Groo_: with phonon-backend-vlc Dragon player don't even show the video itself, only its sound
[20:25] <_Groo_> ulysses: yeah it used to with same code in 4.5... dont know whats broken
[20:25] <_Groo_> ulysses: does it crash on exit?
[20:25] <ulysses> _Groo_: yes:(
[20:25] <_Groo_> can you paste the pulseaudio version in antty you are using?
[20:26] <_Groo_> 0.9.2 final?
[20:26] <ulysses> 0.9.22-0ubuntu3
[20:27] <_Groo_> same as mine
[20:27] <_Groo_> bug apachelogger ;)
[20:28] <_Groo_> ulysses: btw can you do me a favor? do you have digikam installed?
[20:31] <ulysses> _Groo_: not yet
[20:32] <_Groo_> ulysses: after you install it, see if it crashes when you go to menu -> settings
[20:32] <ulysses> _Groo_: I'll do
[20:33] <_Groo_> ulysses: if it does, open a bug in bugs.kde.org, digikam ppl dont believe me :P
[20:33] <ulysses> )
[20:33] <ulysses> :)
[20:33]  * _Groo_ thinks neither apachelogger 
[20:34] <_Groo_> [17:41] <apachelogger> whom do I believe :P [17:41] <apachelogger> a not official minion or a pulsehaxx0r :P
[20:35]  * _Groo_ is so unapreciated :P
[20:35] <ulysses> evillogger
[20:36] <apachelogger> ...
[20:36] <apachelogger> whats the backtrace
[20:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: of digikam?
[20:37] <apachelogger> yes
[20:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: let me get the bug
[20:37] <_Groo_> bug 254283
[20:37] <_Groo_> huu not launch
[20:37] <_Groo_> kde
[20:37] <ulysses> _Groo_: it doesn't crash for me
[20:37] <_Groo_> stupid bot
[20:37] <_Groo_> ulysses: 32 or 64 bits?
[20:37] <ulysses> _Groo_: 32 bit
[20:38] <_Groo_> ulysses: its a 64 bits but aparently
[20:38] <_Groo_> bug*
[20:38] <_Groo_> kde bug 254283
[20:38] <_Groo_> better :D
[20:38] <_Groo_> apachelogger: last entries, from me, have updated traces for 4.5 and 4.6
[20:40] <apachelogger> what is your kipi version?
[20:41] <apachelogger> erhm
[20:41] <apachelogger> libkipi
[20:41] <apachelogger> also are kipi-plugins installed?
[20:42] <_Groo_> apachelogger: libkipi8                                                             4:4.5.85-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 and yes
[20:43] <_Groo_> apachelogger: huuu wait, kipi-plugins is still linked to libkipi7
[20:43] <_Groo_> gonna rebuild with 8 and see what happens
[20:50] <_Groo_> building
[21:06] <apachelogger> great
[21:06] <apachelogger> now it is filling up the memory
[21:06]  * apachelogger kills Riddell's build
[21:06] <apachelogger> if I got in
[21:12] <_Groo_> apachelogger: with recompiled digikam + kipi it worked :)
[21:12] <_Groo_> finally :D
[21:12] <apachelogger> we all know what to do then...
[21:13]  * Tm_T hides
[21:13] <allee-k> _Groo_: sound like a binary incompatible change in 4.6, doesn't it?
[21:14] <CIA-24> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1205319 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.h API documentation updates, including making note of which functions are asynchronous and have signals to report events/data.
[21:17] <_Groo_> going home, seeya guys later
[21:30] <apachelogger> allee-k: apparenlty it did not
[21:30] <apachelogger> allee-k: well, actually it really does not ;)
[21:31] <apachelogger> it just happens that one version of the lib is fixed and the old one is not and we currently use the old one ^^
[21:40] <Messanger>  world leaders setting you all up right now to get microchipped by RFID microchips with identity/healthcare/credit information into their new world order why they are folding the economy , their solution to the problem they are causing is the RFID microchip  http://www.scribd.com/doc/44997148/The-Mark-of-the-Beast    Romans 10:13 all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
[21:43] <allee-k> apachelogger: ah, so double-broken bin compat to be  binary compatible again.  Good :)
[21:44] <apachelogger> I do not follow
[21:45] <apachelogger> kipi7 & kipi8 are not abi compatbile
[21:45] <apachelogger> thus the difference in version?
[21:47] <apachelogger> jussi: we has gotten the spam it seems
[21:55] <yofel> apachelogger: btw, about my icecc issue before: it seems that to icecc it seems that a running boinc client is a valid reason NOT to use a system (even if it's niced) - so my fault
[22:01] <allee-k> apachelogger: ups. then you're right of course.
[22:39] <valorie> any news from rbelem?
[22:52] <nixternal> ScottK: firing the ppc up, did you shut it down?
[22:54] <nixternal> ScottK: it is fired up for you
[22:55]  * nixternal heads out for the evening
[23:44] <apachelogger> guess what
[23:45] <apachelogger> I am in a fun mood
[23:45] <apachelogger> again
[23:45] <apachelogger> nixternal, ScottK: you surely could do some mad WoL thing
[23:50] <valorie> it's friday night, apachelogger!
[23:50] <valorie> time for fun!
[23:55] <apachelogger> yus yus
[23:55] <apachelogger> also I have a bit of a PITA from the opengles stuff on the n900