[00:03] * crack05 is away (Gone) === crack05 is now known as CRACK05 === apachelogger is now known as urllogger === urllogger is now known as apachelogger === richard is now known as Guest31388 === Guest31388 is now known as eeproms === eeproms is now known as linux_galore [01:00] hey [01:00] guys, how do i get my bottom "panel" to look like the bottom "panel" on mac os X [01:05] that's called a dock, there's lots to choose from [01:07] ok [01:07] where do i choose different ones? [01:07] like where do i change the one i have? [01:08] you can search in the package manager for them [01:08] the one you have is a panel - it is different to a dock [01:08] ok [01:08] so just search for the word dock? [01:09] yep but choose one that is for kde or any window manager - not a gnome one [01:10] ok [01:12] you can also use the search term kde dock in www.google.com/linux to see what others recommend [01:12] andrewh192: ^^ [01:23] klo mau nginstal wine i2 gmn? [01:23] laptob quw kok g' bsa? [01:23] !en [01:23] The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [01:36] Hi all [01:39] Hello? anyone here? [01:39] SteelWing: this is a support channel ;-) just ask your question, don't feel shy. [01:39] Sorry, third support channel I've beent to without a response. Was beginning to think my client got bugged. [01:40] I'm trying to install irssi on Kubuntu, I'm new to KDE but have done it before on Ubuntu. It's claiming that when I use ./configure no such file or directory exists. I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't seem to understand ./configure. [01:41] SteelWing: can't you just install it from a package? [01:41] SteelWing: like, apt-get install irssi? [01:41] Last I checked the package was out of date. [01:41] SteelWing: possible... but do you need the latest version? i run it on debian lenny on a server, that's probably even more outdate. [01:42] Well I'd feel more comfortable if I could get this SVN version to cooperate. [01:42] Worked fine in gnome I can't figure out why its not recognizing ./configure [01:42] SteelWing: svn version, ok... so does it come with a configure script (hint: probably not) [01:42] Did before. [01:42] Hell, even INSTALL says to use it. [01:42] SteelWing: svn versions usually don't have the configure script, src tarballs do however [01:43] SteelWing: is there a file called "configure" or is there not? ;-) [01:43] configure.in [01:43] SteelWing: yep [01:43] SteelWing: wrong one ;-) [01:43] SteelWing: you have to create configure yourself [01:44] D'oh. [01:44] SteelWing: that's done by some magic stuff ... autoconf and all. i've not used that in years. [01:44] or do ./autogen.sh [01:44] Alright I'll grab a nightly developer tarball. [01:44] moetunes: good hint. [01:44] SteelWing: if it has that, try that [01:45] SteelWing: or try autoreconf (might need some options, i dimly remember) [01:47] Yeah, nightly tarball did it. [01:47] Thanks, I'll be going now. [01:47] SteelWing: you're welcome [01:49] Maybe not. I look back to my left to find the ./config script complaining I need glib 2.6 or higher. I just installed kubuntu today and I'm almost certain glib is a stock package. [01:50] SteelWing: are you still building this? [01:50] Attempting to. Usually it would be ./configure make make install [01:50] SteelWing: but? [01:50] But it won't get past ./configure [01:51] complains I need glib 2.6 or higher. But I should have that already. [01:51] SteelWing: glib is a gnome package [01:51] Oh. [01:51] SteelWing: no. [01:51] SteelWing: build it without gnome support [01:51] Crap. Glib *smacks head* GnomeLibrary. [01:51] SteelWing: it should offer that in configure --help [01:51] glib is _not_ gnome [01:52] SteelWing: or install glib devel packages (you probably already do have glib itself) [01:52] is the build-essential package installed? [01:53] tsimpson: Sorry! Got it, Glib != Gnome Lib. Duely noted [01:53] moetunes: if it wasn't i'd guess configure would instantly abort crying for a compiler... ;-) [01:53] it was created for gnome, but was separated from gnome long ago [01:53] glib2.0-dev is the package you need to compile anything that needs glib [01:54] tsimpson: i'm expecting irssi to be buildable without dependencies on glib. [01:54] tsimpson: gnome or not. [01:54] tsimpson: so how does this help? [01:55] why do you think irssi should not use glib? [01:56] tsimpson: i keep my opinions about glib to myself [01:56] tsimpson: but you're right, it seems to depend on it even for console only builds [01:56] yeah, glib has nothing to do with GUI [01:56] Yeah well it worked now it wants ncurese-devel which apt can't find. [01:57] it's mostly used for support of threading and signal/slot style code [01:57] err. Crap I didn't mean for that to sound as rude as it did. [01:57] SteelWing: don't worry about it ;-) [01:57] SteelWing: libncurses5-dev [01:57] SteelWing: well, you need the curses devel package [01:58] Obviously but the package name it gave me must of been out of date or simply wrong. tsimpson has the correct package name. [01:58] SteelWing: configure cannot give you package names [01:59] SteelWing: it looks for headers and libs [01:59] it's not a package name, it's just telling you it wants the devel part of ncurses (you have to figure out the package name manually) [01:59] Ah, that explains it. Then I mistook the header for the package name. [01:59] Well its compliling now. [01:59] lib(whatever)-dev is usually a good start [02:00] SteelWing: or apt-cache search and look for the dev package [02:00] I'll make note of that. [02:00] Okay, its successfully installed. [02:01] Thanks again for all your help. [02:52] en 10 min Empieza ataque a moneybookers [02:52] canal en vivo de seguimiento de ataque: http://twitcam.livestream.com/2ych2 [02:52] Ataque de Anonymous [03:05] KDE 4.4.5, where's the desktop background setting? [03:23] hey [03:24] was wondering how i setup dcc send [03:32] andrewh192: generally, that has to do with setting up your modem/WAP etc. to allow it [03:38] how do i accept a file someone is sending me via dcc in quassel? [03:40] andrewh192- step 1: install xchat. step 2: in Settings > Preferences > Network > File Transfers, select either 'yes' or 'browse each time' for auto-accept [03:40] ;) [03:43] ok [03:44] ok [03:44] thanx [03:53] hello, i use kubuntu hardy heron and i know that there is no officially supported package for eigen2 (libeigen2 is the package name). I found a site on launchpad that offers a package. Can i use that for kubuntu, too? [04:11] valorie: i have another question for ya.. [04:11] valorie: i recently downloaded/installed cairo-dock and was wondering how i go aboout acctually installing it [04:11] its on my computer, but i am not sure how to "activate" it [04:30] i have a usb sd card reader that mounts cards as read only. searching internets produce no results. I'm using lucid. any ideas how to get a r/w mount when I plug the device in? [04:36] rackIT: is there a lock notch in your card? [04:49] phoenix_firebrd: yes - it's unlocked [04:59] hi. im using kubuntu 10.10 with vmware workstation (latest version). ive got vmwaretools installed and everything works ok except that my screen resolution always resets to 800x600 when i reboot. and it seems that when i change it (in kutuntu) it doesnt do it properly because it looks like everything just get scaled (bigger windows, bigger fonts...). anyone can help me? === mik is now known as Micha- [05:13] help [05:15] I need help configuring sound output as I get no sound on fresh install of Kubuntu 10.10 64 bit.. [05:15] !ask | Micha [05:15] Micha: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:15] oops [05:15] sorry [05:15] have you tried alsamixer in the console? [05:16] no(?) [05:16] it's a sort of semi-gui interface you run in Konsole [05:16] what steps do I take? [05:16] I had some trouble in 10.04 with sound also [05:17] some channels kept muting, and that was the way I solved it [05:17] It works fine in 10.10 32 bit. [05:17] open up a Konsole and say type or paste: alsamixer [05:17] (Ubuntu) [05:17] Ok [05:18] oops, paste or type: alsamixer [05:19] where is Konsole located? [05:19] use your Kmenu: search [05:19] konsole [05:20] got it [05:20] I use it so often I have it in my taskbar, but I guess some people don't like the cli [05:20] so now just type or paste: alsamixer [05:21] ok. ran the command, now i got a graph [05:21] look at the bottom of each -- are any of them MM ? [05:21] that means MUTE [05:22] six are MM [05:22] woah [05:22] :P [05:22] ok, let me see if I remember how to change them [05:22] ? [05:22] Tx [05:22] you use arrow keys to navigate [05:23] up and down arrows should work either [05:24] Hmm. I think it reads my speakers as headphones [05:24] that's odd [05:25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsamixer for more info [05:29] Thank you valorie, I'll tinker with this [05:51] hi. im using kubuntu 10.10 with vmware workstation (latest version). ive got vmwaretools installed and everything works ok except that my screen resolution always resets to 800x600 when i reboot. and it seems that when i change it (in kutuntu) it doesnt do it properly because it looks like everything just get scaled (bigger windows, bigger fonts...). anyone can help me? === Freejack is now known as Freejack` [06:05] rx: I guess you looked at the VMware forums already? [06:29] hello people. [06:32] hey guys. [06:33] Hi [06:34] how are you? [06:36] upgrading to maverick. [06:38] I installed kubuntu 10 lts 64bit, it was working perfect a few days before but today while loging in to the system i got the error as kdestartupconfig4 not found error code is 3 check your installation(something like this) and now I am not able to login .. [06:40] cyberbob: have you done a system update recently? [06:40] moetunes: lastday i just updated my vlc app.nothing else. . [06:41] cyberbob: check the /etc/startkde file for errors [06:42] moetunes: actually i am not too good in linux desktop computing. Recently started using kubuntu on my Desktop after getting my new Desktop maching [06:43] moetunes: file not found . . [06:43] cyberbob: Welcome to Linux and KDE :0 [06:43] :) [06:43] :) [06:44] cyberbob: you can check it from the live cd or from the recovery boot option - from the live cd you could paste it [06:44] kstartupconfig4 ? [06:45] dasKreech: command executed without showing any msg smells cool [06:45] I've seen a similar error and it turned out to be from the startkde file being rewritten wrong during an update [06:45] where is it running from? [06:46] moetunes: I somehow doubt there would be a KDE config file in /etc that's used on boot [06:46] or login [06:46] dasKreech: Ijust used kstartupconfig4 on my console [06:47] cyberbob: Yes but apparently kde doesn't have that same luxury :) [06:47] try to see where it's running from [06:47] moetunes: dasKreech even I am not able to use GUI for web browsing. .as you know elinks sucks in this regard. . .. [06:47] cyberbob: use w3m it's not that bad :) [06:48] /usr/bin/kstartupconfig4 [06:49] and startkde isn't right that's why the error of it not being found [06:49] moetunes: how can i overcome that [06:49] moetunes: Right but where is your startkde file? [06:50] sudo nano /etc/startkde [06:50] moetunes: serious? [06:50] sudo nano /etc/startkdesorry - /usr/bin/startkde [06:50] I'm multitasking here =) [06:51] cyberbob: sudo nano $(which startkde) [06:51] !pastebinit [06:51] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [06:51] dasKreech: /usr/bin/startkde [06:52] cyberbob: That's what I thought but you can type the whole thing including the $( ) [06:52] sudo nano $(which startkde) [06:53] anybody else having issues with kub hibernating? [06:53] the commands in the $( ) are run first then whatever they bring back is then put into nano [06:53] bobby: Likely [06:54] dasKreech /usr/bin/nano /usr/bin/startkde <------------output of the command [06:54] cyberbob: ha ha what did you type? [06:55] i am a lilbit confused dasKreech should i copy /usr/bin/startkde to /etc/startkde ? [06:55] no [06:55] cyberbob: No I just want to see what you typed to get that output [06:56] press up and copy it to here [06:56] it's really annoying. it just goes crazy. hibernate and then at start network manager doesn't work. [06:56] you can press up to get the last command you typed in [06:56] !hibernate [06:56] you have to find and kill the state info [06:57] cyberbob: I'll help you in a little i'm just interested in what the command was that you put in [06:59] dasKreech: it opened up a file [06:59] A bash script [06:59] cyberbob: Right [06:59] moetunes: What is your suggestion now? [07:00] this error happens because two lines are made into one [07:00] look for a word made up of two words [07:00] hmm :-/ [07:00] I think it is the second or third line from memory [07:00] dasKreech: it opened up a BASH script file in front of me [07:01] cyberbob: really shouldn't be on IRC id you are logged in as root [07:01] cyberbob: correct [07:01] but i feel comfortable with vi/vim so opened it withthat. . [07:01] cyberbob: \o/ [07:02] moetunes: which two lines ? [07:03] I can't see from here - common sense should point it out [07:03] or paste it [07:04] moetunes: can I presume that it contains the line kstartupconfig4 ? [07:05] no idea - either that or set the path, I can't remember [07:05] and I'm not at a kde box to check atm [07:13] sorry got DC [07:14] :-) [07:14] nnow I got another erro while loggin in , I added another user but that user when tries to login session hangs @ splash screen [07:15] what hapens if you run startkde? [07:15] $DISPLAY is not set or can not connect to X server [07:15] cyberbob: can you check the file .xsessions-errors in that users home directory [07:18] dasKreech: tail -f /hom/user/.xsessions-errors shows errors klauncher (4224)/kio (klauncher): slavepool:no communication with the slave [07:19] fetched layout groups from X server etc. . [07:20] hmm [07:20] seems like you have quite some KDE configuration issues [07:21] export DISPLAY=:0.0 [07:21] run that then try run startkde again [07:22] same error like previous one [07:23] guys any grub2 experts ? [07:24] there's an ubuntu install on a usb still but the installer installed grub2 on teh same disk. which means if the usb stick is not plugged in the grub boots in rescue mode. [07:24] 'coz the grub.cfg stuff is not on teh main disk. [07:25] is there a way I can force it to use the windows boot loader and have that one chainload grub2 if the disk is plugged in? [07:25] dasKreech: it is going to below up my mind, as I have a bundle of assignments with em and they are lingering on. . . .:P [07:26] bobby: you'll have to reinstall the windows bootloader on the hdd and install grub to the usb and set the bios to boot the usb first [07:27] cyberbob: ah you want a quick fix? hmm [07:27] cyberbob: You made a new user and they can't login you say? [07:28] yup their session hangs @ splash screen @ harddrive while loading system components [07:29] moetunes: so how do I reinstall the windows bootloader? [07:29] bobby: you'll have to ask in ##windows I have no idea === Freejack is now known as Freejack` [07:29] I don't use windows [07:30] moetunes: cool, thanks. [07:30] np :) [07:30] bobby: unfortunately that happens [07:30] moetunes: one more question. can I install the entire grub2 to the hdd so that whether the usb is in or not, the grub and the menu work fine? [07:30] happened to me, and I blogged about my solution [07:30] valorie: it's part of learning. [07:31] but I don't use windows either [07:31] valorie: if you have a solution to it, that would be cool. [07:31] bobby: no because the config will be on the usb [07:31] sec, and I'll get the link -- be sure to read the comments for other methods [07:31] moetunes: yeah, that's what I thought. I'm thinking now whether I want to create a partition on the hdd and put boot and grub there. and leave the rest of the / on the usb. [07:31] valorie: cool. [07:32] http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2010/10/grub2-and-chroots-dammit.html [07:32] it was easy enough for ME to do it, so it isn't that hard [07:32] sure angered me, as you can see by the title [07:32] lol [07:33] well, there linux granny.... [07:33] thankx. [07:33] :-) === eugen is now known as Guest71268 === wire is now known as Guest99267 [07:35] lot of reading there.... [07:35] that's the linux story. [07:36] kwin(4158) KWin::Workspace::setupCompositing: KWin has detected that your OpenGL library is unsafe to use, falling back to XRender. [07:36] what does that mean ? [07:36] kwin is the KDE windowing system [07:37] openGL is one way of rendering, but that wasn't working in your system [07:37] so it's using xRender [07:37] which is older (and faster) I believe [07:37] KDE FTW!!!! [07:37] lol [07:38] bobby, I'm rather verbose with stuff like that, so beginners can follow along [07:38] except that it worked before with opengl mmm [07:38] since I'm a bit of a beginning [07:38] beginner [07:38] and does not work on xrender [07:38] :( [07:39] cyberbob: What was the lastthing you remember doing before things broke? [07:39] valorie: I'm very much new user to grub2. grub legacy, I had used enough to navigate around it w/o getting upset. [07:40] i think it the latest SC that broke the thing === Freejack is now known as Freejack` === gestor is now known as bicho === GabrielYYZ_ is now known as GabrielYYZ === sysop is now known as Guest43157 [08:16] reboot [08:30] someone that can help me with java [08:37] Printerproblems ? [08:44] dasKreech: yup i did that [08:44] some people say reintall vmware tools (that didnt help) [08:44] some people say reinstall the xorg vmware video driver (that didnt help) [08:47] btw the problem was: [08:47] im using kubuntu 10.10 with vmware workstation (latest version). ive got vmwaretools installed and everything works ok except that my screen resolution always resets to 800x600 when i reboot. and it seems that when i change it (in kutuntu) it doesnt do it properly because it looks like everything just get scaled (bigger windows, bigger fonts...). anyone can help me? [09:11] is there a way to make KDE remembers windows position? [09:12] they always open upper left on the screen [09:12] and that bugs me alot :\ [09:34] anyone have a samsung NF310? i can't get the brightness keys to work right. [09:42] is it possible to change the panel height and/or add panels in maverick? [09:42] I don't seem to have an option for it.. [09:46] first (possibly only) question, i installed ubuntu a while ago, and just installed the kdm, and am running that (from a login). The sound it horrendous in quality. Should I pursue help here or in #ubuntu ? [09:59] Spaztic_One: are you running ubuntu, or kubuntu? [09:59] and sound.... in what app? [09:59] naught, you can have as many panels as you like [10:00] but there is also the option of "shelves" [10:00] which are a gadget too, and can contain more shelves [10:00] I haven't tried that, but just read about it [10:02] all sound. It was installed as ubuntu, but I ran sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and at login I selected kde. [10:04] so, valorie, i'm not sure which my computer technically is right now. [10:08] most people have success with that method of installation, although I didn't [10:08] ended up doing a clean install of Kub. [10:09] anyway, your sound quality relies on your equipment, of course, but also the backend to phonon, if you are using phonon for your sound apps [10:09] some use it, some don't [10:09] systemsettings > multimedia > phonon [10:10] you can check which backend, and also test your sound there [10:10] to see if that's it [10:11] Can someone help me with my font smoothing? I'm realllly confused, and only things I can find about it online are very old posts I don't think apply anymore [10:11] backend for phonon is xine, whatever that is. I think I had been using Pulseaudio without a hitch before... [10:13] When I have a fresh install of Kubuntu the fonts look AMAZING. Its like OSX perfect, nice and thick fonts but perfectly smooth, I couldn't believe it, but if I so much as open the Application Appearance settings to do anything else, the next time I restart the computer the fonts are still kinda smooth, but not in firefox or any applications anymore [10:13] I haven't changed any settings, and after that, I've tried changing the settings to everything under the sun. [10:14] I dunno what the hell is going on [10:14] hmmm... [10:14] you might try another, Spaztic_One [10:15] xine works for me, but gstreamer or vlc give better results for some people [10:15] How would I do that? [10:15] they are all available as packages for installation [10:15] kpackagekit is easiest, if you don't know the exact package name [10:16] search for phonon-gstreamer or phonon-vlc [10:16] and install kubuntu-restricted-extras while you're at it [10:16] since that will give you all the needed codecs for playing mp3 and such [10:18] how do I get to the panel settings? right clicking the panel only gives me "add widgets" and "lock panel"... [10:19] so, what is phonon? and do you know the difference between it and whatever ubuntu uses? Cause I know I have gstreamer stuff installed for gnome, and the vlc media player installed (don't know that it is what you're talking about though) [10:20] shoot [10:20] just noticed hat its 5 20 in the morning... I'm going to get some rest and tackle this later [10:28] where's my cashew? does it not exist in kubuntu maverick? [10:31] yes, to the right-bottom and right-top of your screen [10:31] so can someone help me with my font problem, or heard of it happening before, or what? [10:31] SReid: you've repeated yourself a few times here [10:31] I suggest asking on the forums [10:32] eh, I asked my question once, valorie [10:32] and after a long wait [10:32] since you haven't found anyone here [10:32] asked again [10:32] really? [10:32] yup [10:32] then someone else IS asking [10:32] but.... nobody answering, sadly [10:32] I asked if someone can help with a font problem, then i gave details...then waited, then asked again 10 minutes later [10:33] sucks [10:33] learn to count [10:33] repeated myself a few times [10:33] ffs [10:33] right, if you only did it a few times [10:33] then someone else is also asking [10:33] I wasn't complaining [10:34] if noone knows the answer, what can we do? [10:34] make one up [10:34] :) [10:34] lol [10:34] there is no "man fonts" that I know of [10:34] i'm just pissed off at Kubunt [10:34] u [10:35] it gives me amazing fonts then takes them away, would have been better not havin it in first place [10:35] :( [10:36] Can't find any screenshots of Kubuntu with the fonts looking like mine did either...i'm beginning to think i dreamt it [10:36] gr33ts! [10:36] mine look great! [10:36] can i see a screenshot to see if its the way mine was? [10:37] sure, what would you like me to take a screenie of? [10:37] firefox and like Dolphin open or something like that [10:37] i got a little window behaviour issue: every time i work with gimp and focus the main window the toolbox and the layerwindow go to background. how can i help that? [10:38] i want to keep both above the main window [10:39] buggs_bugger: click the little gimp icon top left > Advanced > Keep above others [10:39] http://imagebin.ca/view/04GwhYt3.html [10:40] I made dolphin little, because I just have a laptop -- not an enormous screen [10:41] firefox is messin me about, will open in a sec valorie [10:41] hi everyone. I was wondering how I might change the default open application associated with .out files...it doesn't show up in the filetypes settings [10:42] SReid, doesnt change behaviour. both dialogue-windows go background as soon as i activate the main window [10:42] buggs_bugger: you mean if you had main gimp window maximised and you did that option for the toolbox and layers one etc they don't stay on top? after you click it check again to make sure it has a tick beside it? it works for me I use GIMP like that a lot :S [10:43] double checked it, doesnt work :( [10:44] i'm looking at what you want right now :S I dunno! thats weird... [10:44] check the main gimp windows option to make sure it doesn't have the keep above others thing selected, that might cause an issue [10:44] SReid, the problem is, once i untoggle the toolboxes with TAB and toggle them on again, they lose the "above all" setting [10:46] untoggle them...what dya mean exactly by that? sry if stupid question [10:46] i want to try and repeat what your doing [10:46] SReid, sorry, bad term. toggle off [10:47] SReid, gimp gives you the option to blend out the toolbox and any other floating window such as layers, channels ect. once i do that and then bring them back, they lose their above all property [10:47] i've just done an 11 hour nightshift, and I know the word toggle, but i don't know what your doing lol [10:48] ahhh right [10:48] hmm [10:48] dunno how to solve that then [10:48] SReid, might i suggest to go to bed then? ^ ^ [10:49] im in europe, gmt + 1 so here its noon ^ ^ [10:49] and valorie, your fonts look nicer than mine, what font do you use? but your firefox fonts look like mine do, they were way more awesome before. I'm tempted to reinstall my computer again just to take a screenshot of the way it looked. [10:49] lol [10:49] well, I just use the standard fonts [10:49]