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sagacihey #lubuntu, I've tried installing lubuntu onto my laptop and it doesn't seem to want to recognise my windows ntfs partition for grub, any ideas? i've tried sudo update-grub but it only sees the linux partitions04:47
sagacifdisk -l shows that it's still there04:47
phillwsagaci: one moment ...04:50
sagacino hurry04:51
phillwsagaci: which version of lubuntu are you using?04:52
sagaci10.1004:52
sagacii've installed ubuntu kubuntu 10.10 on this laptop, the only thing i've done differently was download updates when it was installing (i usually don't do that)04:53
phillwsagaci: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162334604:55
phillwsamba is not part of the default in 10.10 (it is in 11.04)04:55
sagacithanks for the help phill... i'll try that, reboot etc.04:59
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sagacihi again, I tried those instructions that phill gave me but sudo update-grub isn't seeing my ntfs partitions :(06:44
phillwsagaci: that's most odd :(06:46
sagacihttp://pastebin.com/mLNHuBV906:48
phillwsagaci: I've got to confess, that I am stumped on it. some of the people who have more experience than me should be on in the next few hours, if you can be patient. Else use the mailing list via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved06:48
sagacii know but thanks for your time. Unfortunately I think it's one of these things that would be easier to reinstall lubuntu or ubuntu and see what happens06:51
phillwsagaci: I think the system is fine, it's just getting it to see your windows partition. I'd advise a little patience until one of the guys comes on who is more familiar with such issues.06:54
phillwyou can manually update grub to see areas that auto-probe is not seeing, but gvfs-backport should have enabled that for you.06:55
sagaciso how can I manually do that, or should I man update-grub06:56
phillwsagaci: is the area ntfs?07:04
sagaciwhat area07:05
sagaciphillw, PHILL07:10
phillwsagaci: have a read of http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows he's one of the forum moderators, and his tutorials are the dog's testicles :P07:11
sagacios-prober wasn't installed by default07:11
sagacii fixed it07:11
sagaciit usually is in ubuntu :/07:11
phillwit is on the cd, but does not get installed - hopefully fixed in the 10.10.1 release.07:12
sagacieither that or the live install didn't find ntfs partition (which there were) and uninstalled the packaged at the end07:12
sagaciwell either way it didn't work on the install07:12
sagaciwell my laptop will be on lubuntu for a while07:13
phillwsagaci: my apologies, I thought that thread i posted you covered it. the full notes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat/07:13
phillwsagaci: now promise not to tell szczur about this :P07:17
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sagacithanks for all of your help07:41
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gilirhi here :)15:01
gilirif people want to work on bugs today, just ping me if you need help :)15:01
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flomar34bonjour,15:23
flomar34not sure it's a real bug15:23
flomar34with natty, there is no wallpapers by default15:23
flomar34tested on virtualbox with today's update15:24
Yorvykflomar34, known problem15:28
flomar34ok, thanks :)15:33
gilirflomar34, it should be fixed if you install and update Alpha 1 :)15:35
flomar34I've installed alpha1 the day after it's out and updated today but wallpaper is black(there is nothing in the preferences)15:43
flomar34I can't find too the launcher for file roller (i don't know if it's needed)15:44
gilirflomar34, do you have something in your home, and .config/pcmanfm/lubuntu/pcmanfm.conf ?15:49
gilirand there is no launcher for file-roller, it should be launched only by the files manager15:49
flomar34in config/pcmanfm/lubuntu/pcmanfm.conf15:51
flomar34wallpaper=15:51
flomar34wallpaper_mode=015:52
gilirflomar34, you probably reset your wallpaper setting when you saw it was black :)15:53
flomar34ok, i do understand15:53
gilirflomar34, just set the wallpaper to /usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png15:53
bioterror[desktop]15:54
bioterrorwallpaper_mode=015:54
bioterrorwallpaper=/usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png15:54
bioterrorshows black15:54
gilirbioterror, using natty up-to-date ?15:54
bioterror17packages to upgrade15:54
bioterrorupgrading now15:54
bioterrorgilir, someone broke the icon packages from lubuntu?15:54
bioterroron natty15:55
gilirnot broken, update to 2.6 :)15:55
gilirah yes, it's broken,15:55
gilirbioterror, just set the theme to elementary, waiting for the fix15:56
gilirthe fix was commited, we just need to wait it appears in the repository : lubuntu-artwork 0.1215:57
bioterroroky15:57
bioterrorkay15:57
bioterrornot going to upgrade this laptop ;)15:57
bioterrorthis one has working icons :D15:58
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gilirthe new elementary icon theme is quite nice ;)16:01
bioterrortrying to think bugs16:02
bioterroroh yes16:02
bioterrorwith pcmanfm16:02
bioterrorit doesnt show all drives which I've got mounted on fstab16:02
bioterrorI've got 2 SATA, 1 PATA and two USB drives on my desktop16:03
gilirbioterror, you have gvfs and gvfs-backends installed ?16:06
flomar34If you go "menu://applications/DesktopSettings" there is no icon for monitor settings16:13
flomar34with 10.10 or 11.0416:13
gilirflomar34, right, do you want to report the bug ?16:15
gilirflomar34, you need to run "ubuntu-bug lxinput" and following the instructions16:16
flomar34but, there is no icon= in the .desktop file.  Could it be only this problem?16:21
gilirflomar34, it is the problem :)16:22
gilirbut it's useful to report bugs, so we don't froget to fix them16:23
giliryou can also provide a possible solution in the bug report16:23
bioterrorgilir, I just remembered that hmmm lubuntu-default widget is huge if you compare to clearlooks. it affects the "menu"'s.16:23
YorvykIs here an icon for lxrandr?16:24
bioterrorit's from the customize look and feel16:24
* bioterror luvs hunt a bug day16:24
gilirYorvyk, ho, you're right, it's lxrandr, not lxinput16:24
gilirbioterror, it doesn't seems so big in my testing system, could you provide screenshots about this ?16:25
Yorvykgilir, I spent 10 mins looking for 'Monitor Settings' before I realised16:26
Yorvykflomar34,  you need 'ubuntu-bug lxrandr' to report the bug16:28
Yorvykflomar34, not 'lxinput'16:29
Yorvykgilir, I’ve had a look at Bug #677715 which to me isn’t a bug and have responded as such.16:30
ubot5Launchpad bug 677715 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Input before the terminal is initialized" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67771516:30
gilirYorvyk, yes, it's not really a bug, and if it is, all terminals have the same problem16:33
Yorvykgilir, It doesn’t effect the command that’s typed in.  So I think it should be marked invalid and tell them to wait for the prompt if they don’t like the look of it.16:36
gilirYorvyk, yes16:37
YorvykOK I mark it invalid16:38
Yorvykwith a comment16:38
flomar34Yorvyk: Ok done, thanks16:40
Yorvykflomar34, what number is the bug report?16:41
flomar34https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxrandr/+bug/68861916:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 688619 in lxrandr (Ubuntu) "No icon for lxrandr apllication" [Undecided,New]16:45
Yorvykflomar34,  Thank you.16:46
gilirthank flomar34 :)16:47
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* gilir gives a cookie for flomar34, with the first bug reported of the day :)16:48
* gilir gives also a cookie for Yorvyk, for the first bug closed of the day :)16:49
YorvykTa16:49
YorvykNom Nom16:49
YorvykSo Bug #68861, we need an icon16:53
ubot5Launchpad bug 68861 in clock-setup (Ubuntu) "show the current time when asking about system clock being in utc" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6886116:53
YorvykSo Bug #688619, we need an icon16:53
ubot5Launchpad bug 688619 in lxrandr (Ubuntu) "No icon for lxrandr apllication" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68861916:53
gilira generic one would be nice, as it will change with icon theme16:54
YorvykLxterminal.png would do.  As used in the LCC16:56
gilirYorvyk, but it should be relative to "screen" or "settings", not a terminal16:58
gilirsomething like Icon=preferences-desktop-display should be nice16:59
flomar34may be this is just me, if i go in the preferences , time and date, i can't unlock it17:04
gilirflomar34, when you click on the yellow stuff, it's do nothing ?17:08
flomar34no, just nothing17:09
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gilirflomar34, could you launch time-admin in a terminal and post the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ?17:12
flomar34http://paste.ubuntu.com/541955/17:16
flomar34Using 2 computers so it's a bit long17:16
gilirflomar34, yes, I have this too, could you report a bug with ubuntu-bug gnome-system-tools ?17:21
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flomar34https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/68865117:29
ubot5Ubuntu bug 688651 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Can't unlock time-admin in Natty Lubuntu" [Undecided,New]17:29
gilirflomar34, thanks,17:30
gilirflomar34, you can also add more informations, like if it's work on a normal Ubuntu Natty Alpha 1 iso17:35
gilirI'm sure bug triagers of Ubuntu bugs will ask this :)17:35
flomar34ok, if it's needed, i will test with ubuntu natty17:47
Yorvykflomar34, Save you time, it doesn’t work with Ubuntu Natty17:49
Yorvykeither17:50
flomar34Yorvyk: thanks for the information17:52
flomar34There is no client mail in "peferred appication", it's what it is expected?17:57
Yorvykflomar34, it is set if you click on the arrows on the right17:58
bioterrorgilir, well, clearlooks just has better dimensions or how I can put that in words17:58
bioterrorit's not too big, too small, it's perfect if you compare to what lubuntu-default is17:59
flomar34Yorvyk: yes, but as chromium was set , i was wondered just why sylpheed wasn't set as mail client default18:00
Yorvykflomar34, I suppose it is a bug, as it should display with out having to click it.18:03
YorvykDinner is served, see you all later :)18:04
gilirflomar34, yes, already reported : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/57534018:07
ubot5Ubuntu bug 575340 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Add chromium-browser and sylpheed to prefered application" [Low,Confirmed]18:07
gilirbioterror, it's difficult to understand with works :)18:07
gilirYorvyk, could you add the information on the bug report about time-admin ?18:08
bioterrorgilir, you can open lxterminal, then you can open Customize look and feel18:09
bioterrorand apply Clearlooks & Lubuntu-default18:09
bioterrorand you see how much lubuntu-default takes space from window space with just making that "menu section" bigger18:09
bioterrorwell, that's not a big thing, just stupid cosmetics which just annoys me18:11
gilirbioterror, well, I can see the difference, but not seems so big :)18:12
gilirbioterror, you can report a bug with ubuntu-bug lubuntu-artwork, I'm sure Raphael will answer you :)18:13
bioterroryou think so18:13
bioterrortaking reboot with my laptop18:23
bioterrorlet's see what's broken18:23
flomar34That seems to be very stable for the first alpha18:24
flomar34for a simple user like me of course :)18:24
gilirgood to hear :)18:24
bioterrorelementarys volume icon looks... stupid ;)18:26
gilirha ? didn't see that18:27
bioterrorand now I dont get that slider bar :D18:28
gilirI think you see more strange things than me :)18:28
bioterrorurxvt was changed18:28
bioterrorI had to say expoter TERM=xterm18:29
bioterrorexport18:29
bioterrorCannot find terminfo entry for 'rxvt-256color'.18:29
bioterrorannoying :D18:29
bioterrorsad157@dopethrone:~$ nano .profile18:29
bioterrorError opening terminal: rxvt-256color.18:29
bioterror:)18:30
bioterroradded that to /etc/bashrc.bashrc18:31
gilirbioterror, working for me18:33
gilirwithout the export18:33
Yorvykgilir, been looking at Bug #670561 which I can reproduce but, it appears to be cured in Natty even though they use the same version of lxterminal19:10
ikahello :)19:10
ubot5Launchpad bug 670561 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "some keys in lxterminal work wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67056119:10
ika.19:10
Yorvyko/19:10
gilirYorvyk, you can reproduce on 10.10, and you can also confirmed that it's fixed in 11.04 ?19:12
Yorvykgilir, yes19:14
gilirYorvyk, I think you can set it as Fix Released, describing this, and add that people can re-open it if it's not fixed for them19:16
YorvykOK19:16
Yorvykgilir, what is the fix though, if both have the same version of lxterminal19:17
gilirYorvyk, probably something other than lxterminal, deeper in the stack19:18
YorvykOK19:19
gilirsometimes, you should not try to understand why bugs are solved :p19:19
Yorvyk:)19:20
pip_dare I attempt a release upgrade to natty, or leave it a few more days, python & all that?19:48
YorvykWhy not, what can possibly go wrong :D19:53
pip_haha, well I forced it the other day & lubuntu wouldnt boot19:54
Yorvykgilir, are there any bugs you’d like to be looked at?19:54
pip_I should have taken heed of the warning :)19:54
Yorvykpip_, Intel graphics?19:57
pip_yeah,on board19:59
pip_I'm on a laptop20:01
Yorvykpip_, there was a problem a few days back that effected Intel graphics.  The two machines I’m running Natty on at the moment are Intel based and after the first failed I left the other, just upgrading now.  I’ll let you know the results.20:05
pip_Yorvyk: so I'm guessing Intel graphics=baaaaad.....20:05
pip_sorry I hadn't read what you wrote there20:06
pip_I'd appreciate that Yorvyk :)20:06
bioterrorhmmmm gilir, my look and feel crashes when I try to change to elementary20:06
Yorvykpip_, Intel a fiddling with the drivers and there are problems with some of the older chipsets but, it’s getting better.20:07
pip_yeah, I think this is pretty ancient, well I KNOW it is.....20:08
bioterrorOBJECT (object)' failed20:09
bioterrorSegmentation fault20:09
bioterrorawesum!20:09
gilirYorvyk, no, just take what you want :)20:19
bioterrorhow can I trace why my lxappearance segfaults when I try to change icon theme?20:19
gilirbioterror, backtrace ! :)20:20
gilirbioterror, is apport pop-up when the crash occurs ?20:21
bioterrornope20:21
gilirbioterror, ok, so you need to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs#Manual Backtrace20:21
gilirdon't forget to install lxappearance-dbg20:22
bioterrorProgram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.20:23
bioterror0x00007ffff60d8448 in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.620:23
gilirbioterror, install also libc6-dbg20:23
gilirand you need to pastebin the whole backtrace, not only the last line :)20:24
bioterrorgilir, http://ricecows.org/gdb-lxappearance.txt20:24
gilirbioterror, you need to redo it after you install more dbg packages20:25
gilirwhen you see a "No symbol table info available.", it means there is a missing dbg20:25
bioterror libc6-dbg : Depends: libc6 (= 2.12.1-0ubuntu9) but 2.12.1-0ubuntu10 is to be installed20:25
gilirargh :/20:26
bioterrorand as you noticed, this is happening with AMD6420:26
gilirbioterror, try also to install libglib2.0-0-dbg libgtk2.0-0-dbg20:27
bioterrormy laptop with i686 has no problems20:27
bioterrorgilir, http://ricecows.org/gdb-lxappearance2.txt20:29
gilirbioterror, better :)20:30
bioterroris it any help?20:30
gilirbioterror, yes, do you see the difference between the 2 backtraces ?20:31
bioterrormy desktop is really ugly atm :D20:31
bioterrornope, I'm not a backtracer ;)20:31
bioterrorahhh20:31
bioterrorsecond one has a lot more information20:31
giliryes :)20:32
bioterrorcan you see what crashes it?20:32
gilirwell, it seems to be a bug directly in gtk20:33
bioterrorokay20:33
* phillw passes round coffee, beer, wine, cake and biscuits... As I'm not a programmer, all of this is way over my head - but it does seem to be going well :)20:33
gilirbioterror, when you will be able to install libc6-dbg, please redo the backtrace and open a bug against lxappearance, attaching the backtrace to the report, I'll add details for the devs20:36
whatthefunkhello?20:37
bioterrorgilir, you gotta remind me20:38
whatthefunkcan anybody tell me how to install drivers on lubuntu 10.10?20:39
bioterrorwhat drivers20:40
bioterrordrivers are usually in kernel and you can load modules to kernel20:40
whatthefunkdriver for an intel 815 series graphics card20:40
whatthefunkive just installed lubuntu and am having serious resolution problems20:41
bioterrorxserver-xorg-video-intel - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver20:43
bioterrorsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel20:43
YorvykWhich is installed by default20:44
bioterroryes, should be20:44
whatthefunkyeah, seems that was already installed20:46
whatthefunkso...20:46
whatthefunkim stumped again on my resolution problem20:46
bioterroryou need to reconfigure your X20:46
bioterrorand change the screen resolution from /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:46
whatthefunkive tried that a hunred times with no success20:46
whatthefunkyep, tried that20:46
bioterrorwell20:46
bioterrorgive us your xorg.conf20:46
bioterror!pastebin whatthefunk20:47
ubot5Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:47
bioterror!pastebin | whatthefunk20:47
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whatthefunkhow do you get xorg.conf?  (im very new to linux...)20:47
bioterrorctrl+alt+f1 (you will go to TTY)20:48
bioterrorlogin with your username and password20:48
bioterrorsudo service lxdm stop20:48
bioterrorsudo Xorg -configure20:48
bioterrorsudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:48
bioterrorsudo service lxdm start20:49
bioterrorctrl+alt+f720:49
bioterrorbut I'm off to talk with out guests20:49
bioterrorsince they drove 300km to meet us20:49
whatthefunksounds resonable20:50
whatthefunkall that just closed up...did somthing happen?20:52
whatthefunk...20:54
gilirYorvyk, if you set a bug "In progress", you need to affect the one which is actualy fixing the bug :)20:56
flomar34whatthefunk: i have a intel i815 graphic chipset20:57
gilirYorvyk, in the case of the lxrandr icon, just set it as Confirmed, I'll probably  set it as Triage later20:57
flomar34here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/542030/20:57
flomar34i need this to have a 1024x768 resolution20:57
Yorvykgilir, OK20:59
flomar34good bye every body21:32
pip_anyone any ideas about what I may need to do to get sound?21:49
mark76Find the pulse audio settings app21:49
pip_as in find & install or find & mess with?21:50
mark76Find and install probably21:51
mark76It wouldn't surprise me if it's not installed by default21:51
pip_h'mmmmm21:52
Yorvykgilir, Bug #686526 confirmed21:54
ubot5Launchpad bug 686526 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "pcmanfm incorrectly escapes spaces in "Extract Here" with file-roller" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68652621:54
Yorvykpip_, I’ve upgraded my natty machine and it is all OK and the one that messed up is now OK22:01
kosaidpohello guys22:02
kosaidpoany idea how ican make all usb ports fo my modem woks cus in wvdial.conf only one its decalred so yeah http://pastebin.com/Y4ZeYv5X22:02
gilirYorvyk, thanks, so next step is to report it upstream, since we have the last version in Natty22:02
gilirYorvyk, do you want to do it ?22:02
pip_excellent, thanks Yorvyk I'll try it tomorrow.  I'm having some issues with this box at the moment22:04
pip_Also, I seem to have the password problem I recall you mentioning22:04
pip_This box is a mini iso install BTW22:05
gilirYorvyk, hum, maybe it's already fixed upstream, I'll add some information to the bug report22:06
phillwgilir: Yorvyk, kosaidpo has been trying for a few days, and bioterror has been helping. but we cannot seem to get a resolution to the issue. I'm fairly sure it is a bug, as it was working before.22:09
gilirphillw, with chance, it will be fixed in 0.9.9 :)22:11
kosaidpophillw: sory but in what bug22:11
phillwkosaidpo: the fact your usb ports are not working22:12
kosaidpogilir: any idea how to make all my usb port work when i plug my modem cus now i have to plug in in certain one only22:12
kosaidpophillw: no there22:12
kosaidpohttp://pastebin.com/Y4ZeYv5X in the file if ichoose one only and plug in it the modem it works while me iwanna handel em all at once22:13
gilirkosaidpo, no idea22:13
phillwkosaidpo: I *think* the bug is related to once a usb port has been assigned to modem, it will only work on that one?22:13
phillwI've seen similar when I was running Windows, if I changed the usb port for my usb 3G device it had to totally re-install itself.22:14
kosaidpophillw , gilir i mean cus its declared in its config file check this any idea how ican make all usb ports fo my modem cus in its .conf only one its decalred so yeah http://pastebin.com/Y4ZeYv5X22:14
kosaidpophillw: yeh isaw that too well lame windows what do you expect ?22:14
kosaidpoguys with cmmd i wanna kill the pid in th end ps -u root |grep wvdial22:19
kosaidposhud i add kill $0 ??22:20
kosaidpoor what ?22:20
kosaidpohow can i get the etuned value ?22:20
kosaidposo ican kill22:20
kosaidpowow so quit22:27
YorvykThe moment anybody mentions 3G Modems I think most people go quiet.22:31
kosaidpoYorvyk: haha why ?? does have a calmin effect?22:31
kosaidpo how can i kill the returned value by this cmmd ps -u root |grep wvdial22:32
kosaidpoi tried kill $0 didint work22:32
Yorvykkosaidpo, they frazzle peoples brains when they refuse to work22:34
kosaidpoYorvyk: how can i kill the returned value by this cmmd ps -u root |grep wvdial | kill $0 doesnt wok22:35
Yorvykgilir, what did you want me to do?22:47
gilirYorvyk, nothing now, maybe I'll make a patch to fix this later22:48
Yorvykgilir,  OK,  I was having connection problems and bits of the conversation seem to be missing.22:49
kosaidpohow can i kill the returned value by this cmmd ps -u root |grep wvdial22:53
kosaidpoi add kill $0 it deoesnt work22:53
Yorvykkosaidpo,  $0 won’t work because that’s the name of the script23:04
Yorvykecho $0 will return /bin/bash after you run the commands23:05
kosaidpoYorvyk: its only a cmmd not a script then $1?23:05
kosaidpowud work ?23:05
YorvykNo, I’ve tried that23:06
kosaidposo icant kill it in the same cmmd ?23:06
Yorvykkosaidpo,  have a look at pkill23:09

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