[00:00] along with several other dozens peeps [00:01] you have peeps? [00:02] I don't know what people see in chrome os (Android yes but using a browser all the time no thanks don't like having to use an ajax xterm clone (thats bound to be buggy) [00:03] all software has bugs [00:04] Yeah but at least the people writing xterm know what they are doing [00:05] bjsnider: Tex is pretty bug free [00:05] google's hackers a pretty good at what they do [00:05] i'm confident they know what they are doing [00:07] I am not time will tell - Rather just have android and native apps (intel's android looks interesting) [00:08] I think MS is doing as well as anyone for browsers these days (neither mozilla or google want to make it easy for people to stop being tracked) [00:09] i'm sure there's some extension for that [00:09] ...like trackmenot [00:09] which has been around for many years [00:09] There is but I want it to be the default [00:10] And built in to the browser [00:10] (firefox had this code working and the CEO got it reverted) === gord|afk is now known as gord [01:15] who is the "proxy" user and why does he show up on the login screen? === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [01:45] The following NEW packages will be installed: libgirepository-1.0-1{a} The following packages will be REMOVED: libgirepository1.0-1{a} [01:45] interesting.. [01:46] not really [01:46] heh [01:46] "Renamed libgirepository1.0-1 to libgirepository-1.0-1 to match Debian and use their kindly provided provides/replaces/conflicts." ~ debian/changelog [03:56] I forgot the name of the program to report bug, what is the name? [03:56] ubuntu-bug ;) [03:57] or did you mean apport? [03:58] apport, that's the name, thanks [03:58] np [03:58] doesn't have apport ar natty? [03:58] doesn't have apport at natty? [05:19] Sometimes I make things way to complicated.... [05:20] for example, I went through the whole "edit fstab, smb.conf files" when all I really needed to do was click "Places> "Connect to Server" and enter the IP address... and the share works flawlessly... [06:14] I decided to try Natty, like I have with all the previous releases, but this one is different--it didn't just have some broken apps/libs, the entire UI no longer functions (wirelss config, run command, etc.) [06:14] Is there a clean way for me to switch back to gnome-panel without downgrading, or do I just need a script that kills unity and starts gnome-panel? === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [06:36] heh.. so xfce4-power-manager has been updated but xfce4-power-manager-data hasn't been === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [08:18] good day all [08:21] so hey, hi, i can't log in to ui sessions, currently i'm in ctrl+alt+f1 session, after upgrade [08:30] !bugs [08:30] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [08:30] !bug [08:45] anyone had an issue gdm bouncing back to login screen after black flashing? [08:49] juk [08:49] juk, you mean you put in your password and it comes back up? [08:50] coz_: yes [08:50] coz_: after flashing [08:50] juk, I believe that was fixed....did you do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [08:51] coz_: i'm in +1 already [08:52] coz_: no i didn't [08:53] coz_: well update and upgrade did it been like month since dist upgrade [08:54] coz_: i'll get back you [08:54] ok [09:05] ok [09:05] coz_: sup [09:05] juk, had to restart [09:05] juk, seems there are a few issues with nvidia-settings [09:08] nvidia such a pain in the ars, never would buy nvidia card if i knew that [09:10] juk, well i still prefer them... just apparenlty the new nvidia-settings is a bit querky [09:15] coz_: well, guess gotta check out old nvidia settings, see you === zniavre__ is now known as zniavre === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs === bilalakhtar_ is now known as cdbs [10:55] nvidia module rebuild didn't help, getting kicked back to login screen [10:56] help anyone [10:57] i think it isn't nvidia module issue at all [11:03] anyone else gets kicked off to pink login screen after logging in [12:09] hi, will it be possible to put the window buttons on the right in 11.04 UnityDesktop? [12:09] mmdadawow: should be [12:09] and change the orange into blue? [12:13] that may be hardwired [12:13] or themed [12:14] id like to be able to have my window buttons on the right tbh [12:20] mmdadawow: I'm fairly sure you can change it via gconf [12:20] hopefully unityDesktop allows it [12:22] yeh it doesn't seem to have changed that [12:22] and it wont give any issues when they're in the upper panel? [12:23] penguin42: are you on Natty by any chance? [12:23] yes [12:24] would you mind trying to put them on the right and screenshot it for a maximized app? [12:24] I actually do have them on the right - but I changed them ages ago [12:24] ? [12:25] This machine is an upgrade from Maverick and I had them on the right in Maverick after Maverick changed them [12:26] so ur saying u cant put them on the right anymore? [12:26] no, read what I've said - I'm saying I've already got them on the right [12:26] oh ok (sorry, my English) [12:27] would you mind screenshotting then? [12:28] no need, they're on the right [12:29] i mean so i can see how it looks like when the app is maximized? [12:29] do the menus take the blank space and get the buttons next to them? that'd be inconsistent [12:30] or do they appear just next to the indicators? [12:31] my natty installation isn't that stable, so I'd wait until it is things probably will still change [12:35] ok [12:35] hopefully they won't lock it or make it be stupid if i change them to the right === emma is now known as em === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:35] hey guys ...current update...as of now...want to remove ubuntu -desktop and unity O) [13:41] for some that can mean progress :P [14:15] hello i want now is available e17 ecomorph for ubuntu natty sources ?? [14:18] current e17 is [14:18] !info e17 [14:18] e17 (source: e17): The Enlightenment DR17 Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16.999.49898-1 (natty), package size 2419 kB, installed size 7920 kB [14:18] !info ecomorph [14:18] Package ecomorph does not exist in natty [14:19] buu i wat this [14:19] what's that? [14:19] enlightenment witch compiz [14:19] sounds scary [14:19] e17 i have now [14:20] The reason I upgraded to Natty was somebody in #systemtap telling me that maybe the new Ubuntu release will have support for CONFIG_UTRACE. Well, it does not. [14:21] I'm wondering if it's planned to introduce it. [14:21] what's utrace? [14:22] ecomorph is used in elive and opengeu [14:23] yofel: http://lwn.net/Articles/224772/ [14:23] i.e.: Something to make SystemTap a bit more useful. [14:24] someone know something about ubuntu natty and ecomorph ?? [14:24] jMCg: you could ask in #ubuntu-kernel if they know if it'll be there for natty if someone's online there [14:25] yofel: ACK. [14:47] latest kernels are panicking on me, tips? [14:48] boot to older kernel [14:49] IdleOne: I'm now on 2.6.35-23-generic [14:50] how do I report the problem? [14:50] !bug [14:50] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [14:58] !linus [14:58] !linux [14:58] Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux [15:08] hi using kubuntu11.04 kde beta 2. dolphin detects every drive twice and only one of that 2 is working [15:09] ping [15:10] phoenixfirebrd, probably not going to get much support for Kubuntu here, sadly. :( [15:10] Sir_Konrad: oh [15:10] I don't use it, so I don't know.. [15:10] phoenixfirebrd: there is a #kubuntu+1 also [15:10] Sir_Konrad: ok [15:10] IdleOne, it's invite only. [15:10] oh [15:11] well, stick around and someone might answer [15:11] I'm moving over to Unity right now. :P [15:11] Sir_Konrad: are you sure that there is kubuntu+1, last time i tried i ended up here [15:11] Cannot join #kubuntu+1 (Channel is invite only). [15:11] Exactly. I'm sure *someone* in here is also in #kubuntu+1 [15:11] Sir_Konrad: how is unity in usablity ? [15:11] phoenixfirebrd, it's quite good actually! I was surprised, since I was a bit skeptical. [15:12] I don't think the #kubuntu+1 channel is official [15:12] I think #kubuntu+1 forwards to here, doesn't it? This is the official support channel for all official +1 builds [15:13] ya [15:13] charlie-tca, I would think so, but I keep getting an invite-only message... [15:13] perhaps i should try in kde+1 ? [15:14] Might just have to wait for someone who knows, instead of sending a person all over looking for answers in wrong channels. [15:14] Sir_Konrad: you get that message because you are already here [15:15] Hmm... ok. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. :-\ [15:17] actually, I believed I caused it [15:20] phoenixfirebrd: I think that's because one drive comes from hal and one from udisks, try to remove hal, k3b should be the only thing that still needs it [15:20] yofel: ok [15:28] Ok guys, talk later. Gotta get to school. [15:28] phoenixfirebrd: for what it's worth I had the same problem, you can safely hide one of the duplicates, the other will stay. Didn't file a bugreport/try to fix it. [15:30] yofel: worked for me [15:30] yofel: thank you [15:30] rork: i am using this just for testing [15:31] rork: i wont be using k3b, so no problem [15:47] Got a problem - Downloaded the Desktop ISO which is 716Mb size - My Windows burning app won't burn it onto a cd as it is too big but wont burn it on a DVD either for some reason if I put a DVD in instead of a CD is this a known problem? [15:48] that the disk is oversized: yes, latter is probably an issue with the burning app [15:48] it actually says so on the download page http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [15:49] ah ok - thanks :) Like I said will try and burn it with k3b later then... [15:51] yofel: how to report kernel panics? [15:52] good question, check if there's something in /var/crash, if not, file a usual kernel bug or ask someone else in -bugs or -kernel for help [15:53] OK, thanks [16:07] yofel: tried "sudo ubuntu-bug linux" per people at #ubuntu-kernel but get "The problem cannot be reported: This is not a genuine Ubuntu package" [16:07] are you running a mainline kernel? [16:07] guess I have a "pirated" copy of natty here :( [16:07] or is you apt-cache broken? [16:08] alex_mayorga: or simply pastebin the output of: $ apt-cache policy linux-image-$(uname -r) [16:09] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541924/ [16:10] had to resort to this version as 2.6.37.8 and 2.6.37.7 both panic [16:11] alex_mayorga: you'll have to update I fear, you're running 23.40 while latest maverick-updates is 23.41 [16:11] (or break apports sanity check, but that's not really genuine ubuntu then either :P) [16:12] how [16:12] alex_mayorga: just install updates I think? [16:12] how do I update the maverick kernel if my sources are now all natty? [16:12] or is that impossible [16:12] oh.. [16:13] let me think (of something different than changing sources back) [16:13] if I try System>Update I get the partial thing [16:13] alex_mayorga: where do they panic btw? or does it simply hang [16:13] according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick-updates/linux my version is legit [16:14] alex_mayorga: that's not the problem, you don't have maverick-updates in the sources -> invalid [16:14] apport doesn't do an online check but uses your apt cache [16:14] yofel: at boot in one it sais something about scheduling while atomic on gdm [16:20] and on .8 it doesn't even get to gdm [16:21] can you drop to a tty with -7 or is it frozen? [16:21] yofel: how do I get back here? [16:21] ah well, either add maverick-updates to your sources and update the kernel and then report [16:22] back here from where? [16:22] yofel: didn't quite get the tty with -7 [16:23] second (unofficial) option: open /usr/share/pyshared/apport/packaging_impl.py, go to line 150 (last line of is_distro_package()) and change False into True, that'll break apports genuine check [16:23] alex_mayorga: can you change to a tty with ctrl+alt+f2 with 37-7 ? [16:24] yofel: yup I can [16:25] ctrl+alt+f2 gets me to a terminal ctrl+alt+f7 gets me back here [16:25] daily build stopped at 12/06? [16:25] alex_mayorga: I meant, can you do that with the natty kernel that get's to gdm? [16:25] I'll have to reboot to try that [16:26] but I don't think so I get flashing keyboard LEDs and unresponsive keyboard so I don't think that would work [16:27] how can I get the complete line to add maverick-updates to my sources? [16:27] kukuNut: yes, until the python merges finish, I believe [16:27] sec [16:27] alex_mayorga: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates main restricted multiverse universe [16:27] kukuNut: actually, the desktop build stopped, the alternate seems to be updated for today [16:27] charlie-tca: ok thnks [16:28] yofel: System> Administration > Software Sources, right? [16:29] yes [16:32] that didn't add anything [16:34] then add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list by hand, haven't used software-properties in ages [16:37] alex_mayorga: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the maverick-updates line [16:38] kukuNut, yofel: let me try editing that one by hand [16:38] should I comment out everything else [16:39] no [16:40] having problem with bluedevil . not able to browse my mobile [16:40] i am using kubuntu 11.04, kde 4.6 beta 2 [16:40] alex_mayorga: or in admin->synaptics->settings->softwaresources- update tab - enable whatever you want [16:41] kukuNut: he's trying to add maverick sources to natty, the gui won't help there much [16:41] yofel: ohh.. sorry. [16:41] but what for? [16:42] kukuNut: trying to update the maverick kernel so apport will let him report that the natty kernels panick [16:43] yofel: there is an 'add' button where you can add whatever..cut and paste [16:43] alex_mayorga: ^ that didn't work? [16:46] yofel: adding deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates main restricted multiverse universe [16:46] should I just replace natty for maverick on /etc/apt/sources.list ? [16:46] yofel: I just did and it works [16:47] well, you could, then update, reboot, report bug, and change back [16:47] alex_mayorga: are you crazy? [16:48] kukuNut: a little I guess, I'm using alpha software after all, right? :D [16:48] yofel: I should take just the kernel right? [16:48] all it should update is the kernel, everything else is already higher for lucid [16:48] s/lucid/natty/ [16:49] alex_mayorga: just get the mainline kernel for maverick and install [16:49] kukuNut: that won't help with reporting the bug [16:49] get it from packages.ubuntu.com [16:50] since apport is too stupid for such cases [16:50] well, I have to go for a while, bbl [16:51] yofel: thanks for the help [16:56] anyone using kubuntu? [16:57] problem with qapt [16:58] phoenixfirebrd: don't know qapt [16:58] phoenixfirebrd: I use apt-get [16:59] when i started amarok, it asked for optional installation of restricted codecs, i proceeded to install by clicking ok, then qapt popped up and is displaying a message Title:qapt batch installer,Message: waiting for authorization [17:00] kukuNut: i think it is a bug in qapt [17:00] kukuNut: are you using kubuntu? [17:01] phoenixfirebrd: I saw that the first time Amarok started and didn't see any problem [17:01] kukuNut: did you install the restricted codecs when it asked for it? [17:02] yes [17:03] kukuNut: may be the problem was because i answered the request after a long time. [17:05] phoenixfirebrd: could be but amarok ususally bugs me about the flash so I just say don't bother anymore [17:06] kukuNut: ok [17:07] phoenixfirebrd: you can install them manually with apt-get though - I believe those are ffmpeg xine..just take note of what they are [17:07] kukuNut: xine? [17:08] kukuNut: did you mean gstreamer? [17:08] phoenixfirebrd: libxine-ffmpeg [17:09] kukuNut: does 11.04 use xine as backend? [17:09] phoenixfirebrd: phonon as backend but xine is for mp3 i think [17:10] kukuNut: ok [17:34] hi guys [17:34] is the Wubi bug fixed on Natty alpha yet? === Mohan_chml is now known as Mohan_chml_stabl === Mohan_chml_stabl is now known as Mohi_stable [17:50] wow.. there's a lot of breaking going on in natty, huh [17:52] what do you mean? [17:52] at least for my systems, there's a lot of broken apps right now - especially wireless tools [17:53] alpha release is alpha :\ [17:53] well, it's an alpha... [17:53] are we already to alpha.. wow [17:54] 8 days into it, heh [17:55] aight- time to go do some heavy lifting (apparently a ruptured disk doesn't have me in enough pain already-i need to add to it) === Mohi_stable is now known as Mohan_chml [18:05] * charlie-tca thinks a lot of breakage in alpha is good! keeps it from being breakage in beta [18:21] blank network and bluetooth panel anyone? [19:52] Hmm, lost all the applets in unity.. [19:52] Still got them in classic session :/ [20:13] http://forums.flingbits.com/topic/115-i-have-no-login-screen/ Anybody have any idea on this? [20:15] Hello. I have 11.04 server 64bit, clean LAMP with ssh install. Primarily in use for a CCTV box. init freezes during shutdown every time right after stopping MTA. This a known bug or so? [20:15] Is there an upstart log someplace? [21:17] anybody http://forums.flingbits.com/topic/115-i-have-no-login-screen [21:18] zanus, on 11.04? [21:21] from that link you posted it says you "messed" with plymouth...undo the mess [21:21] also 10.10 support in #ubuntu === Dink_ is now known as Dink [22:27] hmm, is unity broken? I get an empty desktop when I launch it through the gdm [22:28] kklimonda: Is it still installed? AN update earlier today removed unity and ubuntu-desktop [22:29] yeaj, it is [22:33] it's certainly very flaky for me when it was installed [22:35] penguin42, I think that has been resolved [22:37] broken notification panels anyone? [22:37] alex_mayorga, did you recently do an dist-upgrade? [22:37] kklimonda: I have the same issue [22:37] coz_: not really, should I? [22:38] alex_mayorga, generally with a prerelease a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would be warranted at least once a week [22:38] but [22:38] alex_mayorga, to day may be an exception [22:38] alex_mayorga, as mentioned....earlier today it would have removed unity [22:39] unity doesn't work for me anyway [22:39] alex_mayorga, right now a dist-upgrade wants to remove libpolkit-qt [22:39] alex_mayorga, it doesnt work? [22:39] no, if I launch it I get no panels [22:40] alex_mayorga, ah ok then install gmrun and assign a keyboard shortcut to that in compiz I use alt+F3 [22:40] alex_mayorga, then run gnome-wm --replace [22:41] my problem is that video acceleration doesn't work for my card [22:41] alex_mayorga, in unity there is only one panel at the top and the side shortcut panel ....right? [22:41] alex_mayorga, ah ok ,,,which video card is this? [22:42] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 230M] (rev a2) [22:42] alex_mayorga, and the nvidia-current driver doesnt work for that? [22:42] heya [22:42] good news, my work contract was renewed !! WOOT [22:42] haven't tried it lately [22:42] BUGabundo: good for you [22:43] thanks [22:43] ok I have to break here....be back later [22:43] BUGabundo, cool news guy congratulations [22:43] *** [22:47] BUGabundo: congrats [22:47] thanks [22:53] today's update: The following packages will be REMOVED: [22:53] ubuntu-desktop unity [22:53] huh? [22:56] aahahahahaahah [22:56] The following packages will be REMOVED: [22:56] libpolkit-qt-1-0{u} [22:56] I don't have that [22:56] dooglus: you're not the only one with that [23:00] yofel: any idea why it happens? [23:00] nope [23:00] yofel: not that unity was working for me anyway... [23:00] temporary dependency conflict I guess [23:01] I doubt those packages will ever get reinstalled though, unless I specificially ask for it [23:01] and if I hadn't noticed they were being removed, I wouldn't know to reinstall them [23:02] also, http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/new-us-cybersecurity-bill-could-threaten-free-software [23:11] dooglus: They're back anyway now