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| kenvandine | any archive admins around that can look at some packages in binNEW that are holding up builds? | 03:01 |
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| AbsintheSyringe | cjwatson, about recent talks about "slashdot" releasing false claims that ubuntu was moving to rolling releases, this is what I had in my mind when I supported this idea of being future for all linux platforms not just ubuntu http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/11/ubuntu-is-not-moving-to-rolling-release.html | 03:18 |
| AbsintheSyringe | google picked it up | 03:18 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 07:03 |
| axp2 | Hi didrocks | 07:04 |
| didrocks | hey axp2 | 07:04 |
| axp2 | Or good afternoon | 07:04 |
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| dholbach | good morning! | 07:45 |
| didrocks | hey dholbach! | 08:00 |
| dholbach | salut didrocks | 08:01 |
| cdbs | Hi dholbach ! | 08:01 |
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| dholbach | heya cdbs | 08:02 |
| dholbach | pitti, james_w: could it be that the workitems tracker is a bit broken right now? | 08:05 |
| dholbach | it tells me that we have all kinds of unknown milestones | 08:05 |
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| cdbs | Can someone please look at bug #688002 and its attached patch? Currently the hplip package is uninstallable and broken. This patch fixes it. Thanks! | 08:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 688002 in hplip (Ubuntu) "Natty broken dependency with python" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688002 | 08:17 |
| cdbs | s/uninstallable/non installable/ | 08:20 |
| cdbs | its a debdiff | 08:24 |
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| tumbleweed | tkamppeter: cdbs's fix isn't right | 08:42 |
| pitti | good morning | 08:44 |
| pitti | ScottK: kdegraphics> built now | 08:45 |
| micahg | pitti: could you please take a look at bug 685421 | 09:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 685421 in hedgewars (Ubuntu) "Packaging bug - Image file alteration causes issues" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685421 | 09:01 |
| pitti | micahg: ah, thanks; will respond in the bug report | 09:09 |
| micahg | pitti: thanks | 09:11 |
| pitti | micahg: I'll get to it today | 09:14 |
| pitti | dholbach: yes, over night I got tons of cron mail from it; I'll have a look later on | 09:14 |
| micahg | pitti: great, thanks, let me know if there need to be any rebuilds because of it, I'll be happy to help | 09:15 |
| dholbach | super | 09:15 |
| pitti | micahg: I'll care about hedgewars; if you see another one being affected, feel free to upload a rebuild once the fixed mangler is in natty | 09:15 |
| micahg | pitti: ok, I was just wondering if there's any way to tell if something would've been affected | 09:16 |
| pitti | micahg: not without actually trying to run the game, I think | 09:16 |
| micahg | I'll keep an eye out for bugs though | 09:16 |
| pitti | but I guess we should hear about the games people care about | 09:17 |
| ev | @pilot out | 09:29 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Natty GDM login broken, see bug 654578 | Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: | ||
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| pitti | ogra: I can't help it, but kiko's mugshot on https://launchpad.net/~kiko just looks like you | 09:55 |
| cdbs | @pilot in | 09:58 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Natty GDM login broken, see bug 654578 | Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: cdbs | ||
| cdbs | :) | 09:58 |
| dholbach | cdbs, woohoo! | 09:58 |
| * dholbach hugs cdbs | 09:58 | |
| dholbach | hey sabdfl | 09:58 |
| * cdbs hugs dholbach | 09:59 | |
| sabdfl | good morning, /hugs back :-) | 09:59 |
| * cdbs hugs sabdfl | 09:59 | |
| sabdfl | prescience | 09:59 |
| dholbach | cdbs, thanks for patch piloting | 09:59 |
| * dholbach hugs sabdfl too | 10:00 | |
| sabdfl | i love visiting here, /hugs dholbach | 10:00 |
| dholbach | :-) | 10:00 |
| cdbs | dholbach: yup, but there's barely anything in the sponsor queue for universe packages | 10:00 |
| cdbs | :) | 10:00 |
| dholbach | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring-stats/ looks GOOD if you ask me :) | 10:00 |
| cdbs | Its like the stock market during the recession :D | 10:01 |
| tumbleweed | cdbs: you can also help pilot things that you don't have upload rights for | 10:01 |
| cdbs | tumbleweed: which is what I am doing ATM | 10:01 |
| dholbach | the sponsoring queue is getting emptier, but we still have LOADS of patches sitting in launchpad | 10:01 |
| dholbach | and branches for that matter :) | 10:01 |
| cdbs | yup, UDD merges need attention | 10:02 |
| dholbach | I hope that harvest can help with that in the future: http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities | 10:02 |
| dholbach | and people will pick up opportunities when doing an upload anyway | 10:02 |
| * dholbach releases a new harvest | 10:05 | |
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| pitti | james_w: what was the rationale of this "extra-projects" branch? if there are blueprints which aren't against the ubuntu project for linaro, why not just track them in a separate linaro.cfg and output? | 10:11 |
| pitti | james_w: otherwise we'll have to either ignore one set of milestones, or merge them, which is also confusing (and would break the auto-reset, etc.) | 10:11 |
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| Riddell | cdbs: aren't I ment to be the patch pilot today? | 10:39 |
| dholbach | Riddell, there can be more than one :) | 10:39 |
| cdbs | Riddell: I think many people can patch pilot at once | 10:39 |
| Riddell | @pilot in | 10:40 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Natty GDM login broken, see bug 654578 | Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: cdbs, Riddel | ||
| dholbach | woohoo! | 10:40 |
| * dholbach hugs Riddell | 10:40 | |
| * cdbs hugs Riddell | 10:40 | |
| cdbs | though this channel topic just hit its maximum char limit | 10:40 |
| cdbs | Riddel is written, not Riddell | 10:41 |
| cdbs | I think it would be good to remove the Natty GDM login broken thing | 10:41 |
| seb128 | you can drop the natty gdm login issue | 10:41 |
| === dholbach changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: cdbs, Riddell | ||
| cdbs | tkamppeter: Thanks for those uploads :) | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | hallyn_: I switched to quilt for later versions of grub2, but if you're looking at lucid then yes it's cdbs-edit-patch | 11:00 |
| cjwatson | kenvandine: it helps if you give specific package names when asking that sort of thing | 11:01 |
| cjwatson | no idea what to prioritise here | 11:01 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, what did kenvandine ask to do? | 11:03 |
| cjwatson | 03:01 <kenvandine> any archive admins around that can look at some packages in binNEW that are holding up builds? | 11:08 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, ok, pîtti sorted it since | 11:08 |
| seb128 | it was libdbusmenu I think | 11:08 |
| cjwatson | ok | 11:09 |
| ogra | pitti, you mean like http://www.grawert.net/230405_030.jpg ? | 11:11 |
| ogra | (sorry, missed to scale it down) | 11:11 |
| pitti | ogra: 'zactly :) | 11:13 |
| ogra | *g* | 11:14 |
| cdbs | g2g, did some patch-piloting on -motu | 11:17 |
| cdbs | and elsewhere | 11:18 |
| cdbs | @pilot out | 11:18 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: Riddell | ||
| Q-FUNK | is anybody taking care of doing a rebuild upload for eog and gedit? they seem to be the last two bits of gnome that use python2.6 here. | 11:34 |
| Q-FUNK | I can only upload to main for one package, so I cannot act upon these myself. | 11:34 |
| Laney | seb128: ^^^ | 11:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 11:38 |
| kenvandine | cjwatson, doko_ did it fo me last night | 11:52 |
| kenvandine | s/fo/for | 11:52 |
| mbiebl | superm1: hi | 11:54 |
| mbiebl | superm1: you wrote the upstart job for mysql? | 11:54 |
| mbiebl | looks like there is a race condition on shutdown | 11:58 |
| mbiebl | mysql.conf has stop on runlevel [016] | 11:58 |
| mbiebl | I have /var/lib/mysql on a separate partition | 11:59 |
| mbiebl | and the rc.conf job is basically run at the same time on shutdown as the mysql.conf job | 12:01 |
| mbiebl | as shutting down mysql takes quite a bit of time here, the umount scripts try to unmount /var/lib/mysql before mysqld is down | 12:01 |
| mbiebl | that leads to a correupted fs on every boot | 12:01 |
| mbiebl | superm1: want a bug report for that? | 12:02 |
| mbiebl | seems other jobs have the very same problem (dbus, rsyslog) but probably nobody noticed because stopping those jobs should be rather quick | 12:04 |
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| mbiebl | So I'd say it is a general problem of using "stop on runlevel [016]" because it is not race-free | 12:14 |
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| sladen | rickspencer3: | 12:54 |
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| didrocks | jdstrand: hey, can you binary new unity-common please? | 13:09 |
| doko | james_w: how do I make sure that I get the unmodified upstream tarball for merge requests? e.g. #685180 | 13:10 |
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| jdstrand | didrocks: hey, sure | 13:17 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: thanks :) | 13:17 |
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| jdstrand | didrocks: done | 13:24 |
| jdstrand | didrocks: fyi, only i386 was needed, the other three were already accepted | 13:24 |
| pitti | jdstrand: (it's presumably an arch-all package, and thus only gets built on i386) | 13:25 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: it's arch:all, hence only i386 :) | 13:25 |
| jdstrand | oh duh | 13:25 |
| jdstrand | that is precisely it | 13:25 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:25 |
| * pitti ^5s didrocks | 13:25 | |
| * didrocks ^5s pitti back | 13:26 | |
| pitti | jdstrand: thanks | 13:26 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: thanks a bunch ;) you will make a lot of user happy with intellihide available now :) | 13:26 |
| jdstrand | nice! | 13:26 |
| fbond | c | 13:28 |
| pitti | didrocks: no more fiddling in ccsm to get rid of it? indeed! | 13:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: it's not the default yet, will be next week normally. You still have to enable autohide :) | 13:30 |
| didrocks | (autohide is now "intellihide" even if the name of the option is the same) | 13:31 |
| pitti | didrocks: a day, a week, doesn't matter; I'm just happy to see the feature | 13:31 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:31 |
| didrocks | I recommend particularly the new effect on minimize now, with the launcher visible | 13:31 |
| pitti | didrocks: in classic gnome my screen "overhead" is just the top panel right now; with that, we're getting back to that state | 13:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: exactly | 13:32 |
| udienz | hello ubuntu-devel | 13:36 |
| udienz | i have merge proposed | 13:36 |
| udienz | https://code.launchpad.net/~udienz/ubuntu-docs/natty-ubuntu-docs.fix677998/+merge/42857 | 13:37 |
| udienz | fixing #42857 | 13:37 |
| udienz | bug 42857 | 13:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 42857 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Cannot rename files on an FTP connection" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42857 | 13:37 |
| udienz | and here https://code.launchpad.net/~udienz/ubuntu/natty/aspell-en/aspell-en.fix687483/+merge/43124 | 13:39 |
| udienz | my pleasure if you want to reviewing it | 13:39 |
| Daviey | doko: I don't suppose you have thoughts on bug #688522? It's pretty urgent, that one :/ | 13:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 688522 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "[FTBFS] Eucalyptus doesn't build on maverick, with -security pocket enabled " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688522 | 13:41 |
| Daviey | doko: I wondered if we need something similar to http://icedtea.classpath.org/hg/release/icedtea6-1.8/file/eab926d1eb04/patches/openjdk/6650759-missing_inference.patch | 13:41 |
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| G__81 | is there a separate channel for unity where in i could submit patches etc to unity ? | 13:53 |
| beuno | G__81, try #ayatana | 13:54 |
| G__81 | ok | 13:54 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: why did you merge the patch in bug 686607? I already followed up to the merge review asking for it to be sent upstream instead, and wanted to wait for a response there. | 13:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 686607 in openssh (Ubuntu) "ssh client should mention ssh-keygen on mismatched keys" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686607 | 13:58 |
| cjwatson | not happy about that, really | 13:58 |
| cjwatson | it's a low-priority bug, we don't need to rush on it | 13:59 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: oh sorry, I saw that it had been submitted upstream and thought that would satisfy your request | 14:01 |
| cjwatson | as I said in the merge request, I'm generally trying to reduce the number of distribution-specific patches we carry. openssh upstream often doesn't accept patches anything like verbatim | 14:02 |
| cjwatson | and if they don't accept it I have the choice between carrying the patch forever, or regressing, either of which is worse than not applying the patch to start with | 14:03 |
| cjwatson | doko: taking bug 687488 | 14:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 687488 in lilypond (Ubuntu Natty) "lilypond fails to build from source in natty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687488 | 14:06 |
| james_w | pitti, because linaro has blueprints spread over multiple projects, and we would like to track them together | 14:08 |
| pitti | james_w: I updated the merge proposal with some details | 14:08 |
| james_w | thanks | 14:08 |
| james_w | pitti, which merge proposal? I don't see your comments on either of mine | 14:10 |
| james_w | oh, found it | 14:12 |
| pitti | james_w: | 14:12 |
| pitti | https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/launchpad-work-items-tracker/multi-project/+merge/43221 | 14:12 |
| doko | cjwatson: thanks | 14:15 |
| james_w | doko, if you do a "bzr builddeb -S" in that branch, you can compare the checksum in the .dsc with the upstream one | 14:20 |
| doko | lamont, cjwatson: we need an update of the chroots. every build still has python2.6-minimal installed, which lets builds fail ... | 14:23 |
| doko | james_w: thanks | 14:23 |
| lamont | doko: awesome | 14:24 |
| lamont | doko: so I assume you'd like that "now"? | 14:24 |
| doko | :-) well, it's just failing builds | 14:24 |
| doko | lamont: does python2.6-minimal need the priority changed for that (still required)? | 14:25 |
| lamont | I'll tell you in a few min | 14:27 |
| lamont | doko: shure looks like debootstrap grabs required and base..., and it defintitely grabbed python2.6-minimal | 14:29 |
| lamont | so... fix that and poke me when it's clear? | 14:29 |
| doko | ok | 14:29 |
| cjwatson | also python2.6 -> standard | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | and python2.7-minimal -> required, python2.7 -> important | 14:30 |
| * lamont wanders off for a few | 14:30 | |
| doko | standard? not optional? | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/priority-mismatches.txt | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | except that much of that should be ignored due to the temporary python2.6-dev dependency | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | I assume something in standard still wants python2.6. it'll drop out once the rebuilds complete, probably | 14:31 |
| lamont | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 14:34 |
| lamont | python2.6-minimal | 14:34 |
| lamont | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 14:34 |
| lamont | cjwatson: ^^ | 14:34 |
| cjwatson | ack | 14:34 |
| chrisccoulson | does anyone have any idea why this link fails: http://paste.ubuntu.com/541643/ | 14:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i've tried pretty much everything i can think of now, and still can't get it to work :/ | 14:34 |
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| cr3 | cjwatson: to follow up on yesterday, might you have a bug number for the mac_address feature request to d-i? | 15:07 |
| jcastro | mdz: do you have a method of updating the brainstorm ideas to point people to the answers? | 15:07 |
| jcastro | and also resolving the ideas when they've been reviewed? | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | cr3: bug 56679 | 15:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 56679 in netcfg (Ubuntu Natty) "provide a method to use a specified MAC-address as the installation device" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56679 | 15:09 |
| mdz | jcastro: I don't; is that something you could help coordinate? | 15:09 |
| jcastro | I can do them all now. | 15:10 |
| mdz | jcastro: awesome, thanks | 15:10 |
| jcastro | mdz: I just update the status and add a link in the developer response area so I can just take that recurring WI | 15:11 |
| mdz | jcastro: cool, I'll mention that to the TB for future editions | 15:17 |
| ogra | pitti, i'm getting WI tracker spam like " [WARNING] milestone "natty-alpha-2" is unknown/invalid" same for ubuntu-11.04-beta and ubuntu-11.04 milestoned specs ... any idea why ? | 15:23 |
| pitti | ogra: please ignore, I fixed this this moring | 15:23 |
| ogra | ah, thanks | 15:23 |
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| pitti | erm, bzr, where are thou? "ImportError: No module named bzrlib" | 15:31 |
| pitti | doesn't work with python2.6 either | 15:31 |
| pitti | but the package ships it for both versions, hmm | 15:32 |
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| jdstrand | I've got a bit of an emergency security update I need to work on and my archive admin duties will be likely postponed (I typically focus on NEW). if anyone really needs something deNEWed today, feel free to ping me | 15:36 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| cjwatson | doko: what's happening with bug 605042? last comment from you was moving it to maverick-updates | 15:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 605042 in eglibc (Ubuntu Natty) "[armel] java fails to start with eglibc-2.12-0ubuntu4" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605042 | 15:47 |
| === sconklin is now known as sconklin-afk | ||
| cjwatson | mvo: what more is needed to close bug 671016? just getting the new page written? | 15:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 671016 in update-manager (Ubuntu Natty) "EOL needs to be handled more elegantly" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671016 | 15:48 |
| doko | cjwatson: I think this is still blocked on the kernel side. I don't know what I can do more than backing out this upstream change | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | bjf: could you please look at bug 605042? see above | 15:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 605042 in eglibc (Ubuntu Natty) "[armel] java fails to start with eglibc-2.12-0ubuntu4" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605042 | 15:51 |
| mvo | cjwatson: yes, the page is missing, a bit more testing and then it should be done. | 15:57 |
| bjf | cjwatson, afraid i've not done arm for a couple cycles now and have no HW | 15:58 |
| dvanstone | how do I add a disk that was solo to current boot options | 15:59 |
| cjwatson | bjf: who should be responsible for that bug? it's assigned to canonical-kernel-team but nobody has taken responsibility | 15:59 |
| cjwatson | bjf: and it's blocking something that the foundations team is being asked about every release meeting | 15:59 |
| bjf | cjwatson, well, we lost our ARM devs to linaro, i'll send some email and see if I can get it on someones radar (will cc you) | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | given that this is the hardware that runs our buildds on the LTS release, we have to be able to support those kernels somehow | 16:01 |
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| cjwatson | lamont: are the chroots updated now? | 16:06 |
| lamont | cjwatson: was in a meeting. kicking things now | 16:07 |
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| lamont | cjwatson: debootstrap --variant=buildd still gives python2.6-minimal in the resulting chroot | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | doko changed that I believe, maybe it hasn't finished publishing yet | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | that would be odd though | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | I've given it a kick | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | should be available in <1.5 hours | 16:15 |
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| doko | was just published with the last publisher run. amd64, i386, powerpc, but not yet armel | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | /home/lp_archive/ubuntu/indices/override.natty.main:python2.6-minimal required python | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | disagrees | 16:16 |
| doko | cjwatson: does the overwrites file need patching? | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | I ran change-override.py | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | did you try to upload to fix that? | 16:17 |
| doko | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60435630/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.python2.6_2.6.6-6ubuntu4_BUILDING.txt.gz says optional: | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | uploading to change Priority has zero effect | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | Priority and Section are set in overrides | 16:18 |
| doko | no, didn't change anything there | 16:18 |
| lamont | bzr branch lp:~lamont/launchpad-buildd/chroot-scripts; sudo chroot-scripts/make-chroot.sh -d natty --lp <-- should you care to duplicate | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | ok, well I've fixed it in the archive now | 16:20 |
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| lamont | cjwatson: I assume we need a publisher run? | 16:20 |
| smoser | i thought htat i had seen a way to transparently cat a file that was compressed or uncompressed. | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | lamont: yes | 16:22 |
| smoser | ie, something like an option to zcat or something. | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | zcat will cat uncompressed files | 16:22 |
| smoser | $ zcat foo | 16:22 |
| smoser | gzip: foo: not in gzip format | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | hm, my mistake | 16:23 |
| smoser | ah. --force will do it | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | zcat -f, yes | 16:23 |
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| tgardner | is there a known way to work around the python2.7-minimal install problem? | 16:41 |
| cjwatson | tgardner: what's the error message? | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | installed fine for me | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | bug 687524 I suppose | 16:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 687524 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "package python2.7-minimal 2.7.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687524 | 16:49 |
| tgardner | cjwatson, I got caught by the archive being unbuildable earlier this week (I missed the memo). Now I consistently get: | 16:49 |
| tgardner | dpkg: error processing python2.7-minimal (--configure): | 16:49 |
| tgardner | subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3 | 16:49 |
| tgardner | No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure. | 16:49 |
| tgardner | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python2.7: | 16:49 |
| tgardner | python2.7 depends on python2.7-minimal (= 2.7.1-1); however: | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | (and bug 687658) | 16:49 |
| tgardner | Package python2.7-minimal is not configured yet. | 16:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 687658 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "package python2.7-minimal 2.7.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687658 | 16:49 |
| tgardner | dpkg: error processing python2.7 (--configure): | 16:49 |
| tgardner | dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 16:50 |
| cjwatson | the operative line from the bug reports is actually "E: pycompile:240: Requested versions are not installed", which is before the output you showed | 16:50 |
| cjwatson | but anyway | 16:50 |
| cjwatson | doko: ^- could you have a look at that please? | 16:50 |
| tgardner | cjwatson, yep 'E: pycompile:240: Requested versions are not installed' | 16:51 |
| doko | looking ... | 16:51 |
| cjwatson | in general anything from "dpkg: error processing ..." onwards is just like "make: error 1" - follow-on errors | 16:51 |
| tgardner | cjwatson, ack | 16:51 |
| doko | tgardner: which versions of python and python-minimal are installed? | 16:52 |
| tgardner | python-minimal 2.6.6-2ubuntu1 | 16:53 |
| tgardner | python2.6 2.6.6-6ubuntu3 | 16:53 |
| tgardner | python2.6-minimal 2.6.6-6ubuntu3 | 16:54 |
| doko | tgardner: could you unpack python and python-minimal (2.7.1-*) and try again? | 16:55 |
| tgardner | doko, what do you mean 'unpack' ? apt-get install ? | 16:55 |
| doko | aptitude download python python-minimal, then dpkg --unpack these | 16:56 |
| doko | then dpkg --configure --pending | 16:57 |
| doko | looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=605356 | 16:57 |
| lamont | cjwatson: guesses on eta to publisher being done? | 16:58 |
| doko | I should fix that in maverick-proposed | 16:58 |
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| cjwatson | lamont: 16:15 <cjwatson> should be available in <1.5 hours | 17:00 |
| cjwatson | lamont: it'll be the publisher run that's about to start | 17:01 |
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| doko | tgardner: did that work? | 17:03 |
| tgardner | doko, no, but I might just be caught in some intermediate state. I can just reinstall this server... | 17:05 |
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| cjwatson | soren: do you have an example case for bug 687584 to hand? | 17:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 687584 in apport (Ubuntu) "dh_apport installs source package hook in every package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687584 | 17:15 |
| lamont | cjwatson: afk for a few hours, and then I'll get the chroots updated, will advise :( | 17:29 |
| cjwatson | ok, thanks | 17:32 |
| pitti | slangasek: ah, thanks for the clarification in bug 395281 | 17:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 395281 in consolekit (Ubuntu) "pam_ck_connector.so is called for non-login sessions" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395281 | 17:35 |
| pitti | sconklin: should I reject the linux-lts-backport-maverick upload sitting in the lucid-proposed queue? this was already copied from the PPA | 17:42 |
| pitti | sconklin: in fact, it's older (23.40, where 23.41 is in -proposed); rejecting, FYI | 17:43 |
| bdmurray | barry: is bug 688655 python2.7 related? | 17:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 688655 in redland-bindings (Ubuntu) "ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/Redland.so: undefined symbol: raptor_version_decimal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688655 | 17:44 |
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| barry | bdmurray: it could be some dependent package is broken or different in 2.7. doesn't strike me as immediately caused by 2.7, but i'll add the tag and take a look | 17:50 |
| doko | janimo: ping | 17:51 |
| janimo | doko: pong | 17:52 |
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| smoser | ok. so i'm writing a utility that stuffs a MBR in front of a partition image. failing 'splice' from the kernel, i basically have to write the MBR, then append the data from the source to the destination. | 18:09 |
| smoser | it appears dd with 'conv=sparse' never happened http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-coreutils@gnu.org/msg11804.html | 18:09 |
| smoser | can anyone think of a way that i can keep the destination file sparse using utilities in ubuntu (ideally main) | 18:10 |
| smoser | basically i need something to open a file for append and copy sparsely from another. | 18:10 |
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| slangasek | pitti: n/p - not sure what the explanation is for the currently reported behavior, though | 18:16 |
| sladen | smoser: suggestions are that cp /dev/fd/0 /dev/fd/1 or something | 18:19 |
| sladen | smoser: but I do really wish that they would accept the desire for conv=sparse | 18:20 |
| ebroder | sladen: You'd need some way to talk cp into opening /dev/fd/1 with O_APPEND | 18:20 |
| sladen | ebroder: I ended up writing a tool | 18:21 |
| sladen | ebroder: turned into this http://blog.alex.org.uk/2010/12/02/copying-sparse-files/ | 18:22 |
| smoser | sladen, i didn't realize you were involved in that. | 18:24 |
| smoser | i had talked to alex and he pointed me at it. | 18:24 |
| sladen | smoser: perhaps we should get that into the distribution now it's been released separately | 18:27 |
| sladen | smoser: it should already be packaged ;-) | 18:27 |
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| smoser | sladen, right. thats definitely an option. | 18:27 |
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| alexbligh | smoser: ok I was quietly betting you'd get no replies on alternatives, but did not anticipated sladen would point you back at the same thing :-) | 18:47 |
| smoser | entrapment! | 18:47 |
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| cjwatson | smoser: is conv=notrunc not sufficient? I wouldn't have thought that would have changed anything after the endpoint of the write? | 19:00 |
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| smoser | cjwatson, conv=notrunc works, but if it reads 1G worth of zeros , it will (i assumed) write 1G worth of zeros | 19:04 |
| smoser | rather than seeking. | 19:04 |
| cjwatson | oh, I read your problem the wrong way round | 19:07 |
| cjwatson | thought you were overwriting data at the start, not inserting | 19:07 |
| cjwatson | is inserting really the right way to go about it? perhaps reframe your design | 19:08 |
| cjwatson | after all the distance between the boot sector and the partition will not always be the same, probably | 19:08 |
| smoser | cjwatson, i'm probably messing this up badly. but http://paste.ubuntu.com/541997/ is what i have. | 19:09 |
| ScottK | cjwatson: Would you please rescore the gtkglextmm build (only affects powerpc) - I think that's the blocker on getting python-visual built. | 19:09 |
| smoser | i've got process in place that builds partition images, i want to be able to produce disk images from those, and have those disk images boot in a full virt env | 19:10 |
| ScottK | (which in turn blocks boosts1.40 removal) | 19:10 |
| ebroder | smoser: Does this need to work as not-root? If it can be root-only, will cp work if the destination is a block device? You could use kpartx to create a device-mapper object for the partition, and cp --sparse=always onto that | 19:12 |
| smoser | i just really dont want to be root. | 19:13 |
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| ebroder | smoser: btw, you know about blockdev(8) for probing for things like the size of block devices? | 19:14 |
| smoser | ebroder, i'd seen it, but didn't worry to much at this point about block devicesa | 19:15 |
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| cdbs | IS python-webkit working properly with python 2.7 ? | 19:31 |
| barry | cdbs: working, or building? | 19:32 |
| cdbs | barry: working | 19:32 |
| cdbs | I don't know about its build status | 19:32 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: hi... i just did two preseeded installations of natty; one on ext3 and the other on ext4 | 19:32 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: the ext3 one took <6 minutes, the ext4 one took 12 minutes | 19:33 |
| cdbs | Since I am getting ImportError: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'WebView' | 19:33 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: what ever happened with that dpkg issue? | 19:33 |
| cdbs | barry: ^ | 19:33 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: did we get that fixed? or decided not to? | 19:33 |
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| barry | cdbs: it's possible. i haven't looked at it yet. can you file a bug and tag it with python27? | 19:34 |
| barry | i can at least look | 19:34 |
| cdbs | barry: okay then | 19:34 |
| barry | cdbs: thanks | 19:35 |
| cjwatson | ScottK: done | 19:35 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: it's in progress. dpkg has a --force-unsafe-io option now, and there are other changes in progress. I'll adjust the installer before natty to use that | 19:36 |
| cjwatson | (or something similar) | 19:36 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: Debian is thoroughly on top of the issue at this point. | 19:36 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay thanks; i'll set my preseeds to use ext3 for speed for now, and test ext4 once you get a fix committed | 19:37 |
| ScottK | Thanks for the rescore on gtkglextmm. | 19:38 |
| cdbs | barry: will file tomorror, thanks! | 19:39 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=605009 in particular - finally got some proper attention from tytso, including a specific suggestion to use sync_file_range which will be implemented in the next dpkg release | 19:41 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: so I'm holding off doing anything with --force-unsafe-io in the installer until I see whether that makes a difference | 19:41 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay, thanks; i'm now subscribe to that debian report | 19:42 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i'll monitor it there; please poke my if and when you specifically want my testing feedback | 19:42 |
| cjwatson | ok | 19:49 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: no need to tell me when it gets closed though, I'll get e-mailed | 19:49 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: ack | 19:49 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: somewhat related to that ... | 19:50 |
| kirkland | <kirkland> cjwatson: so i have a preseed with "d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true" | 19:50 |
| kirkland | <kirkland> cjwatson: but I'm being held at that question anyway | 19:50 |
| kirkland | <kirkland> cjwatson: any hints? | 19:50 |
| kirkland | <kirkland> cjwatson: full preseed at http://pastebin.com/ME2CDpnx | 19:50 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: I can help if and only if I see a DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer syslog | 19:52 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay, i'll get you one | 19:53 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: the only thing odd i see is that the root disk where the installation is taking place is registered as sdb (instead of sda) in the installer | 19:54 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: post install, it's sda in runtime | 19:54 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: and the installation proceeds just fine as sdb | 19:54 |
| cjwatson | anything that that breaks is a bug in its own right | 19:54 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay | 19:54 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i can't find anything else odd going on there | 19:54 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i'm working around this for now with: | 19:55 |
| kirkland | - preseed_file.write("d-i partman-auto/method string lvm\n") | 19:55 |
| kirkland | + preseed_file.write("d-i partman-auto/method string regular\n") | 19:55 |
| cjwatson | it's not worth speculating. it's about a hundred times quicker to look at a debug log | 19:55 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay, i'll send another install through with that cmdline option | 19:55 |
| jono | hey all | 20:01 |
| jono | I have a USB keyring running natty, but persistence is not working, can anyone recommend how I fix it | 20:02 |
| jono | ? | 20:02 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: well darn; not reproducing it today :-/ happened several times yesterday | 20:09 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i'll keep the cmdline debug parameter on there though, and grab the syslog if it shows up again | 20:09 |
| d-kessel | barry: considering python 2.7/natty - what do you guess when it will be safe to upgrade packages? | 20:10 |
| barry | d-kessel: you can upgrade packages now. which one in particular are you thinking about? | 20:26 |
| d-kessel | thanks. well all ~170 update manager tells me to | 20:29 |
| d-kessel | barry: thanks. well all ~170 update manager tells me to | 20:33 |
| barry | d-kessel: i've been updating my vms today and it seems okay to me | 20:36 |
| micahg | hi robbiew, do you have time for a PM? | 20:37 |
| robbiew | micahg: sure | 20:37 |
| d-kessel | barry: thx, I'll see what it does to my "real" netbook installation | 20:39 |
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| ebroder | jono: Honestly, if you have a spare USB key, running usb-creator on one key, then using that to do an actual install onto another key is going to be a truer testing environment. It will also get testing for things like the text-free boot changes | 20:42 |
| ebroder | I think I saw some discussion about expanding testdrive to install onto a USB key, which would remove the need for the spare | 20:42 |
| ebroder | jono: In the mean time, can you start by pastebining the syslinux/syslinux.cfg file on the USB drive? | 20:46 |
| jono | ebroder, I just talked with ev about this | 20:46 |
| jono | I am not entirely sure what the issue is | 20:46 |
| jono | and I have just wiped the stick to install it another way | 20:46 |
| ebroder | jono: Ah, ok | 20:47 |
| jono | ev would you mind filing a bug for this? | 20:47 |
| jono | as you have the outputs I pasted | 20:47 |
| ev | jono: those all just show that it isn't a problem in usb-creator | 20:47 |
| jono | gotcha | 20:47 |
| ev | what we need is something with the issue to post a bug against casper with their /var/log/casper.log attached | 20:47 |
| ev | preferably with debug set on the kernel command line | 20:48 |
| d-kessel | barry: upgrading failed, it is running dpkg --configure -a now | 20:54 |
| barry | d-kessel: dang | 20:55 |
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| Keybuk | The next time Lennart sarcastically suggests it only took him a year to write systemd, I'm going to reply that it only took me *two hours* to add socket activation to Upstart | 21:12 |
| ebroder | Oooh, looks like fun | 21:13 |
| Keybuk | https://code.launchpad.net/~scott/upstart/bridges | 21:14 |
| Keybuk | adds an upstart-socket-bridge binary | 21:14 |
| ebroder | Keybuk: Yeah, I was skimming that and the session-support branches | 21:15 |
| Keybuk | if you stick "start on socket PROTO=inet PORT=1234" in your job, the bridge makes a listening socket on port 1234 for you, and when it gets a connection, sends the event with the socket | 21:15 |
| ebroder | Keybuk: Uh, don't you need to deal with SOCK_DGRAM vs. SOCK_STREAM? | 21:19 |
| Keybuk | ebroder: sure, at some point :p | 21:19 |
| Keybuk | that'd be just adding an int type to the Socket structure | 21:19 |
| Keybuk | defaulting to SOCK_STREAM | 21:20 |
| Keybuk | then adding | 21:20 |
| ebroder | socket(2) talks about AF_INET being a "domain", not a protocol | 21:20 |
| Keybuk | SOCK=STreaM | 21:20 |
| Keybuk | SOCK=DGRAM | 21:20 |
| Keybuk | etc. | 21:20 |
| Keybuk | yeah, I think I picked up "proto" from inetd | 21:20 |
| ebroder | Sure, I agree it's easy, I'm just nitpicking your terminology before anybody commits to it | 21:20 |
| Keybuk | noted, shall check I'm using the right thing there | 21:20 |
| ebroder | Keybuk: What's the plan for dealing with "start on socket PROTO=unix PATH=/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket" having an implicit dependency on /var/run being mounted? Do you force the developer to make that explicit by adding an " and local-filesystems" or whatever? | 21:23 |
| Keybuk | hmm | 21:23 |
| Keybuk | that'd need to be a depedency on the socket bridge for now | 21:23 |
| Keybuk | I think the best thing is just to have the socket bridge started on virtual-filesystems | 21:23 |
| Keybuk | so /var/run is always available for it | 21:23 |
| Keybuk | 0.10 handles this stuff rather better | 21:24 |
| Keybuk | but we wanted to have it in 0.6 for fun | 21:24 |
| ebroder | I'm not familiar with the changes for 0.10. I'm guessing it rolls mountall into upstart and gives upstart stronger filesystem awareness? | 21:25 |
| Keybuk | nah | 21:25 |
| Keybuk | but it does actually roll the socket listening into upstart itself | 21:25 |
| Keybuk | where this is using a bridge | 21:25 |
| ebroder | How does that help? | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | because then upstart knows when it should be listening on the socket and when it shouldn't | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | e.g. | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | while apache | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | listen inet 80 | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | exec ... | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | says to only listen while apache is running | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | and to only exec on connection | 21:26 |
| ebroder | Oh, interesting | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | it's the whole "while" thing that helps | 21:26 |
| * ebroder nods | 21:27 | |
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| kirkland | jjohansen: hey, would you mind joining #ecryptfs on OFTC? | 22:06 |
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| lamont | cjwatson: doko: building tarballs now | 22:13 |
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| lamont | cjwatson / doko: new python2.6-minimal-free tarballs uploaded | 22:40 |
| lamont | have a nice day | 22:40 |
| doko | lamont: available for builds *now* ? | 22:41 |
| doko | lamont: yes, and hurray! seeing now different build failures ;p | 22:49 |
| lamont | doko: uploaded == what LP will serve to the buildds the next time they ask | 22:50 |
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