=== apachelogger is now known as urllogger === urllogger is now known as apachelogger === gord|afk is now known as gord [01:04] hi [01:04] can someone help me configure my netbook [01:04] it seems that the drivers have screwed up [01:04] in pm :) [01:04] please please [01:06] Generally the plan would be to debug in the public channel, so more people can help. [01:07] what public channel ? [01:08] ubuntu-x referred to here , no ? [01:08] anyways ill just post the case [01:08] Yes, in this channel. [01:08] hope someone can throw me a bone [01:09] first, ive installed ubuntu 9.10 and everything works like a charm [01:09] i needed to upgrade for reasons that irrelevant reasons [01:09] Ok. [01:09] once i upgraded to 10.4 the problems started [01:10] every couple of minutes the screen corrupts [01:10] wierd lines [01:10] pictures not clear [01:10] font scrambled [01:10] yada yada [01:10] ive added launchpad to my repository [01:11] tried installing radeonhd [01:11] oh sorry [01:11] btw [01:11] So, what graphics chip do you have, and what drivers are you using (if there is an option) [01:11] 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] [01:11] that i would call is an excellent question :) [01:12] now, how to i know what drivers are being loaded [01:12] i read the xorg.log.0 [01:12] [ 15.782] (II) LoadModule: "radeon" [01:12] [ 15.783] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so [01:12] [ 15.783] (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [01:12] [ 15.783] compiled for 1.9.0, module version = 6.13.2 [01:12] [ 15.783] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [01:12] [ 15.783] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0 [01:12] [ 15.783] (II) LoadModule: "vesa" [01:12] [ 15.784] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so [01:13] [ 15.784] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [01:13] [ 15.784] compiled for 1.8.99.905, module version = 2.3.0 [01:13] [ 15.784] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [01:13] [ 15.784] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0 [01:13] sorry [01:13] shlomi: You want to use a pastebin for that. [01:13] hmm [01:13] genious u are :) [01:13] sec [01:13] ive never used it before [01:14] In fact, could you pastebin your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log and dmesg? [01:14] http://pastebin.com/sW5A7HRH [01:14] sec ill add dmesg [01:17] heres the dmesg [01:17] http://pastebin.com/5KwsAy3K [01:18] i think line 677 in the dmesg is the beginning of the drm init [01:19] Yeah. Those logs seem to be pretty inoffensive. Could you describe the problem a bit more? [01:19] $ glxinfo | grep vendor [01:19] server glx vendor string: SGI [01:19] client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI [01:19] OpenGL vendor string: DRI R300 Project [01:20] it's actually really hard [01:20] im in fear it will screw up [01:21] first, i cant connect my second monitor [01:21] by far it screws up, big time [01:21] hang on, what driver is it loading ? [01:21] It's loading the radeon driver; that's correct. [01:23] how does it know to load that one [01:23] where is the settings [01:23] *are [01:23] let's say i wanna load the radeonhd [01:23] maybe that will solve the whole issue [01:25] Unlikely; that driver's been dead for a year and doesn't do 3D. [01:26] It loads radeon because that's the default for the PCIID of your GPU. [01:26] You could specify a different driver in xorg.conf if you wanted. [01:27] would u recommend that [01:27] so that driver i have now is the latest [01:27] ? [01:27] Yes. [01:27] You've got the driver that should work, and you're unlikely to find a better driver. [01:27] btw, i tried turning on the visual effects [01:27] how can i upload a pic [01:27] (to where ?) [01:27] imageshack? [01:28] thanks [01:28] sec [01:29] http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6489/screenshotdkp.png [01:29] once i turned the visual effects off the horror stopped :) [01:29] so what r we looking at ? [01:30] how do we fix this ? [01:30] Wow, that's really messed up :) [01:30] thanks, i take great pride in my creations [01:30] what about mesa [01:30] or lets put it this way [01:31] what is the difference between 9.10 and 10.4 [01:31] (although im now with 10.10) [01:31] If you get that *without* having desktop effects enabled, it's not to do with mesa. [01:31] If that only occurs when desktop effects are enabled, it may well be mesa. [01:33] when desktop effects are off i still get it [01:33] it just fixes itself alot quicker [01:33] u know, ive got to play around with it abit [01:33] click here, click there [01:33] and it kinda comes back [01:34] I wonder if it has to do with power management. [01:34] interesting [01:34] how by ? [01:35] btw, ive posted here [01:35] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1614520 [01:35] why would Temüjin say: If you're running the r300g driver from xorg-edgers PPA, report the bug to them. [01:35] what's that got to do [01:35] ? [01:38] RAOF ? [01:39] That's saying that if you're using the packages from xorg-edgers (which are snapshots of upstream development) then filing a bug upstream is a good idea. [01:39] but im not right ? [01:40] even though ive added the repositories and updated the packages [01:40] You are using those packages. [01:40] hmm [01:40] how do u know ? [01:40] so frustrating [01:40] shlomi: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.37-8-generic [01:41] Because you've got xserver-xorg-video-ati version 6.13.2, which isn't in Maverick (but is in xorg-edgers) [01:41] ah ok , that means i have to be sharp on the versions [01:41] ill keep that in mind [01:41] E: Unable to locate package linux-image-2.6.37-8-generic [01:42] E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-2.6.37-8-generic' [01:42] RS690M is a one of the rarest radeon GPU's and I remember there being problems with the lucid kernel that might not have been fixed [01:42] * Sarvatt forgot what the maverick backports kernel was called [01:43] but on karmic (9.10) everything worked like a bell [01:43] pitty i don't have logs from then.. [01:44] if you can boot there's obviously been some progress, that GPU was completely non functional with the stock lucid release [01:44] k [01:44] but on karmic it worked [01:44] so someone did something %100 right in the past [01:44] latitude XT was the only laptop shipping with one of those I think [01:44] (they pulled it from the market when AMD bought ATI) [01:44] * Sarvatt nods [01:44] we switched to KMS in lucid [01:44] im using a Gateway LT31 netbook [01:45] *respect [01:45] odd, must have codenames mixed up then, whoops! [01:45] ?? [01:46] between 9.10 and 10.4 someone played with the drivers [01:46] and ruined my life [01:46] :) [01:46] does linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick exist? [01:47] :| [01:47] I would say disable KMS but can't do that with xorg-edgers :( [01:48] oh boy [01:49] So, given this hint you could try the kernel team PPA backport kernels. [01:49] i don't understand [01:49] I thought they were in lucid-backports now [01:49] what are u talking about [01:49] sorry guys [01:49] upgrading your kernel to fix the bug [01:50] ah [01:50] shlomi: You should be able to install the ‘linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick’ kernel; this is in lucid-updates. [01:50] when u say lucid-updates u mean the repository [01:50] ? [01:50] Yes. [01:50] but im maverik [01:50] … [01:50] so ide have to define then, correct [01:50] Sorry, forgot :) [01:50] ? [01:51] are u suggesting that because it worked on 9.10 [01:51] we should downgrade the kernel ? [01:51] scrap that.. [01:51] No, that won't work. [01:52] I'm thinking https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [01:53] Specifically, I'd try installing the kernel packages from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.37-rc5-natty/ [01:53] Which is the most recent upstream release, and may have fixes. [01:53] so installing an experimental kernel it is ? [01:54] It's not a bad plan to experiment with :) [01:54] which hopefully somehow is related to misfunctioning of the GPU [01:54] okay [01:54] how do i do thatt ? [01:54] sorry :) [01:54] * Sarvatt gives up, read "I just installed lucid" in the bug report [01:55] * Sarvatt reboots for the 10th time, dang you plymouth! [01:55] so how do i install the kernel ? [01:55] download it and do dpkg [01:55] just like that ? [01:56] Yup. [01:56] In fact, you can probably just double-click on the package after you've downloaded it to install. [01:57] respect [01:57] btw how do i do those cool status updates that Servatt does ? [01:57] * RAOF wonders whether you mean like this? [01:57] i do [01:58] just to make sure [01:58] “/me wonders whether you mean like this?” [01:58] i need not the image [01:58] You need the image; you probably don't need the headers. [01:58] * shlomi now knows the truth - 42 [01:59] RAOF: download the image and install it ? no need for the headers right ? [01:59] i wanted it to be in red [02:00] Yup, that's right. [02:00] how do u do the red line ? [02:01] That's highlighting. Generally, your client will highlight lines containing your nick. Eg: shlomi [02:02] shlomi [02:02] nope didn't highlight it [02:02] oh well [02:02] ill let you know how it goes [02:03] thanks for all the help [02:03] i really appreciate it ! [02:03] No problem. [02:07] okay so its installed [02:07] now i reboot and what should i expect ? [02:07] Well, ideally you shouldn't notice anything except for that corruption not happening. [02:08] :) [02:08] cheers [02:08] see you on the flipside [02:08] If you need to boot the old kernel for some reason, you can hold down shift during boot. [02:08] To get the grub menu to come up. [02:08] kk [02:08] That'll let you select previous kernels. [02:08] thanks for the tip [02:08] never new thstt [02:12] RAOF ? [02:12] u are a true hacker [02:12] Ya? [02:12] thank you [02:12] amazing [02:12] it never looked better [02:12] There's still the opportunity for it to break :) [02:12] the other screen works [02:13] how come ? [02:13] Didn't the corruption happen sporadically? [02:13] Or was that corruption _always_ there? [02:14] it always lurked somewhere therr [02:14] Oh, well then. It's probably fixed then :) [02:14] but when i connected a secondary monitor it flipped [02:15] now im watching a movie on the other screen [02:15] pretty solid proof [02:15] Yeah. Hurray for people fixing things :) [02:15] ☺ [02:16] thanks [02:16] in the changelog they mentioned a few things [02:16] about radeon stuff [02:17] i guess somewhere along the line it was fixed [02:18] wierd that it broke somewhere along the line [02:21] okay [02:21] u were right [02:21] its not entirely gone [02:21] btw [02:21] i saw a kernel for maverik [02:22] u recomend i install the natty [02:24] RAOF [02:25] should i try install v2.6.37-rc2-maverick [02:25] kernel ? [02:25] That's a somewhat older kernel (rc2 rather than rc5), and the natty vs maverick naming isn't really relevant. [02:27] ah ok [02:27] i thought it's actually a different branch [02:29] No. It's the same (slightly older) code, but with the configuration file from maverick rather than natty. The configuration doesn't change much over time, and generally for the better. [02:33] okay [02:33] i guess ill have to live with this [02:34] do u recommend i update the kernel everyone in a while ? [02:36] Eh; maybe. [02:37] is there anyway i can help debug the problem [02:37] If you're comfortable doing some debugging I'd suggest filing a bug upstream; then the kernel developers can ask questions, propose patches, etc and it's more likely that the problem will be fixed. [02:37] thanks [02:38] where do i fill it out ? [02:40] bugs.freedesktop.org, under the ‘DRI’ project, component DRM/Radeon [02:40] If you need help testing patches, pop back up in here and we can provide testing kernels. [02:40] thanks [02:54] damn it really screwed up now [02:54] umph [02:54] at least the second screen woeks [02:54] cheers === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:14] Sarvatt: hi, i tried the x-x-v-ati from edgers and it doesnt fix the issue, (it seemed fine for 2days though).. there are still X freezes.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/541908/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/541909/ but this time the bt's look different.. o.0 [15:14] it happens with smooth-scrolling enabled in FF4 [15:14] * vish tries with smooth-scrolling disabled.. [15:17] the first one was where i tried to ^C and then do a backtrace, which dint work.. so i had to detach and then attach again to bt.. might be the reason for the difference. [16:47] i'm new to ppa installs, i'm following the webupd8 tutorial http://j.mp/eIuog4 are there any other packages besides (nvidia-current nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-settings) that i should be installing to get 260.19.26 ? [16:49] i'm just confused because i also see nvidia-graphics-drivers and the xserver-xorg updates [16:54] if this is just dev and not help let me know if there is a better place to ask [16:56] you should be using jockey to get it [17:02] i'm in ubuntu, it looks like jockey-gtk is the 'additional drivers' app, but i don't see any options but 'remove' [17:02] maybe because i already ran the apt-get install [17:04] opent he hardware drivers manager [17:04] i'm there, it's the same thing as running jockey-gtk from the terminal [17:05] does it say nvidia-current is installed and it's the .26 version? [17:06] it says 'nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version current) [recommended]' and doesn't say the version number [17:06] the nvidia x server settings still says 260.19.06 but i haven't restarted yet [17:06] does it indicate the driver is installed? [17:06] yes, 'activated' [17:06] ok, you should be fine [17:07] ok, i'll restart and see if nvidia-settings has the new version number [17:08] yup, it's updated [17:08] so in the future i can just go to jockey-gtk and it will check the ppa? [17:09] no, it will be updated through update-manager like every other package [17:09] the first install and switching between drivers is what jockey is for [17:10] aha, i see... that makes more sense [17:10] and now in update-manager i see the packages i didn't install (xserver-xorg-* etc) [17:10] awesome, thanks for the help bjsnider :) [17:11] i'm making an interactive piece for a bunch of screens and the nvidia drivers are kind of important to have up to date http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5129/5248093665_890d121d55_z.jpg === Bernardo is now known as Bernardo|Away === Bernardo|Away is now known as Bernardo === Bernardo is now known as Bernardo|Away