[00:03] <jamalta> are there any updates on the python 2.7 rebuild?
[00:26] <rww> jamalta: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=python27 may be useful
[00:26] <rww> (though I believe it's not comprehensive)
[01:16] <cozziemoto> hey guys  ..are current updates safe /  ")
[01:17] <BUGabundo> I'm fine
[01:17] <BUGabundo> I think chromium was broken
[01:17] <BUGabundo> but I haven't restarted it
[01:18] <yofel> here updates stopped being broken today, so I think most rebuilds should be done
[01:21] <F3RR1S> cozziemoto... safe? well since this is not an official release probably not but they should begin to do more good than harm.
[01:23] <F3RR1S> cozziemoto, for example I installed and then updated/upgraded and my wifi did not work... a couple of days later, I upgraded again and it was fixed
[01:23] <F3RR1S> cozziemoto, though it is still not perfect.... I can't disconnect via gui
[01:24] <F3RR1S> but i am able to disconnect wifi via cli
[01:24] <IdleOne> cozziemoto: to sum up: update at your own risk
[01:24] <IdleOne> :)
[01:24] <F3RR1S> cozziemoto, IdleOne.... EXACTLY.
[01:25] <F3RR1S> cozziemoto,  you might limit the number of times you update because you are gettting daily builds... (at least that is the way I understand this)
[01:29] <PKKid> Hey, I was just curious what the general concensous was for how stable / unstable the alpha is?  Is it worth giving it a run in a VBox (for development)?
[01:30] <F3RR1S> PKKid, i am running it
[01:31] <PKKid> F3RR1S, Does it crash often?  Im worried with the new UI and Video frontends
[01:32] <F3RR1S> it is pretty stable but there are some headaches as well.... once those headaches were worked out I do not have too many issues
[01:32] <F3RR1S> I run gnome
[01:32] <PKKid> thats probably what I'll be running
[01:32] <PKKid> Wayland scares me (much like X did). ;)
[01:32] <F3RR1S> I had to get my refresh rates
[01:32] <PKKid> but now its *shudder* new and unknown
[01:33] <PKKid> Hmm, It almost sounds like I should wait..
[01:33] <F3RR1S> and i am still having issues with my brother wifi printer
[01:33] <PKKid> I always had issues with my Brother Printer
[01:33] <F3RR1S> I have not updated for a few days so there may be a fix for it
[01:34] <F3RR1S> my printer worked great but now there are issues
[01:34] <PKKid> I wont be printing, im running in a VM
[01:34] <PKKid> I'll try it.. wont hurt
[01:34] <F3RR1S> i expect for them to be fixed as we get closer to the official release
[01:35] <F3RR1S> i had an issue with the desktop
[01:35] <F3RR1S> it never actually worked on my system so that was a pain in the aces
[01:35] <PKKid> I made the mistake of updating to the VirtualBox 4 BETA..
[01:35] <PKKid> that sucked, I hosed my VM
[01:35] <F3RR1S> not that i cared too much because i am keeping my gnome
[01:35] <F3RR1S> sucks
[01:36] <F3RR1S> still it would have been nice to have tried the desktop
[01:36] <PKKid> It works in 4 BETA now, but the Beta crashes often.. I tried to roll back to 3, but that wont work either..
[01:36] <PKKid> I should have snapshot it
[01:37] <F3RR1S> and desktop nova doesn't work either
[01:37] <F3RR1S> which i liked... maybe i should go and update
[01:37] <PKKid> Not even sure what that is
[01:37] <PKKid> whats the package to install to get gnome back?
[01:37] <F3RR1S> it is a background switcher
[01:38] <PKKid> download is SOO slow.. :(
[01:38] <PKKid> ahh
[01:38] <F3RR1S> gdm, gnome-core, gnome-desktop and some others.... i searched in synaptec and installed it all from there
[01:38] <PKKid> I was hopinh to use Compiz
[01:38] <PKKid> I hear its built in, but I dont quite understand how that works because arn't most windows full screen in their new UI?
[01:39] <F3RR1S> gdm is not the desktop but the desktop manager
[01:39] <F3RR1S> i am not sure about that
[01:39] <F3RR1S> i really haven't used compiz too much.
[01:39] <PKKid> ohh well, thanks for the input.. going to play with it now. :)
[01:40] <F3RR1S> enjoy
[01:40] <PKKid> thx
[01:40] <shcherbak> ok, folks, after logout/login unity/classical applets are gone. Seems to be not to much hussle for me. Next task - remove Unity-shell of Natty. Funny that system is very fast (even with compiz).
[01:50] <rww> PKKid: Wayland is a long-term goal, not something that'll be in 11.04.
[01:51] <PKKid> rww: Ohh, I was thinking this was all changing now.  Good to know, thanks
[07:12] <py1hon> Anyone else suddenly unable to link anything? Looks like something fubar with binutils, maybe
[07:25] <adminewb1> I need help with ubuntu user switching trouble, on GNOME desktop & login, starting ever since lucid 10.04 or maybe a little before -- even LiveCD sessions exhibit same trouble on this system. That is, it consistently locks up in switching back to the same active user, immediately after password is entered. Lockup meaning the keyboard / mouse completely seizes: NumLock has no effect, no Ctrl-Alt-Fx for text vterminal access, etc. Music play
[07:29] <adminewb1> another incidental question: why are there official logs for here, but not the plain #ubuntu channel?
[07:30] <rww> adminewb1: Because Canonical's glorious logbot died again.
[07:30] <adminewb1> oh dear, well that explains it
[07:30] <rww> and it has a fun tendency to only pick up random channels when it rights itself.
[07:30] <rww> you'll notice that ubuntulog is in here and not in there/
[11:04] <nit-wit> anybody have their unity disappear from the login choice after using the regular desktop, me about a week or so of regular Ubuntu desktop
[12:29] <penguin42> heck, the left panel is working for me for the 1st time
[12:40] <coz_> howdy doody
[12:42] <penguin42> hi
[12:54] <coz_> penguin42, hey guy
[13:03] <BUGabundo> anyone here uses android or develops for android, would be willing to package the SDK to a PPA or Universe?
[13:03] <BUGabundo> erk. let me ask that in the proper place too
[13:29] <nperry> BUGabundo: I could give the packaging a go :/
[13:30] <BUGabundo> nice
[13:31] <coz_> mm last updates  do not allow the launcher to autohide unless window is maximized
[13:32] <nperry> coz_: Disable autohide and reenable... Worked for me :)
[13:32] <coz_> nperry,   yeah tried that all morning with no luck :(
[13:32] <nperry> But I lost all the applets in top bar
[13:33] <coz_> nperry,   you could either mouse over where they should be to see if they are still there or   run    gnome-wm --replace
[13:35] <nperry> They are there in gnome-wm :)
[14:20] <pumba_> hello
[14:20] <pumba_> is any expert available?
[14:20] <pumba_> to help me a second step by step with a thing?
[14:21] <rork> !ask | pumba
[14:21] <pumba_> rork...
[14:21] <pumba_> do i have to put also that !  ?
[14:22] <pumba_> ubottu, the problem is that there's not an exact and solely answer...
[14:22] <pumba_> it needs more explanation :(
[14:22] <pumba_> its not something you just reply with a... single solution...
[14:22] <pumba_> i dont know if u can understand me... :/
[14:22] <rork> yes, but nobody has an idea what your problem is...
[14:23] <rork> so nobody knows wether he's the expert
[14:23] <pumba_> the problem is that I just installed ubuntu 10.10 over a laptop, and the wireless is not recognized
[14:23] <pumba_> so doing a search over the net, i have found a program for the solution (driver)
[14:23] <pumba_> but i dont know what to do with this file...
[14:23] <rork> for ubuntu 10.10 #ubuntu is the support channel
[14:23] <pumba_> I just need help to install it...
[14:24] <pumba_> there are almost 2000 people there...
[14:24] <pumba_> they dont even notice me :(
[14:27] <rork> if you asked for help like here that doesn't surprise me, ask the question, tell which hardware you use, where you found the driver and if someone can talk you trough installing
[14:28] <pumba_> the site is this : http://hostap.epitest.fi/
[14:28] <pumba_> in few words i have to install this "Host AP"
[14:29] <pumba_> can someone help me and tell me how?
[14:34] <nperry> pumba_: As you don't seem to be listening to rork, You need to ask in #ubuntu
[14:35] <nperry> We are running the devlopment cycle, as much as we could help you - we won't be sining of the same sheet!
[14:47] <pumba_> :((
[14:47] <pumba_> i understand nperry :((
[14:51]  * penguin42 wonders about upgrading his main machine to +1
[14:52] <nperry> The more the better, just need to make sure you know what your doing and how to report bugs in launchpad :)
[14:52] <penguin42> oh yeh, I mean <---- this machine has been running it for a few weeks
[14:53] <nperry> Ah, I see, my bad  :)
[14:53] <nperry> I'm upset that i've not hit any show-stopping bugs.
[14:53] <penguin42> you're not trying hard enough!
[15:19] <fenerlitk> hello
[15:19] <fenerlitk> anyone here ?
[15:20] <fenerlitk> does anyone know how to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[15:20] <fenerlitk> ???
[15:21] <holstein> fenerlitk: is this for testing purposes?
[15:22] <fenerlitk> holstein: no
[15:23] <holstein> i would suggest waiting
[15:23] <fenerlitk> Hmmm
[15:23] <holstein> til the upgrade path is clean
[15:23] <fenerlitk> well
[15:23] <fenerlitk> im having problems with 1010
[15:23] <fenerlitk> it's asking me to login to a command line
[15:23] <fenerlitk> when i boot
[15:23] <fenerlitk> and sometimes it doesn't
[15:24] <charlie-tca> I would read the topic anyway. Upgrades are broken right now
[15:24] <fenerlitk> when I shut down some purple screen appears
[15:24] <fenerlitk> writting some errors before it shuts
[15:24] <holstein> yeah, unless your into finding bugs and reporting, i would suggest trouble shooting your 10.10 install
[15:24] <holstein> that being said http://zeeis.me/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/
[15:25] <holstein> BUT again, not a good idea
[15:25] <fenerlitk> i wont upgrade
[15:25] <charlie-tca> If 10.10 is broken, upgrading WILL break 11.04
[15:25] <holstein> fenerlitk: you can PM me if you want
[15:25] <fenerlitk> but i don't know how to fix my 10.10
[15:25] <fenerlitk> ok
[15:25] <holstein> and ill give you some suggestions
[15:55] <filosofixit> I did an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 on my netbook and I am now unable to login. The screen dumps back to the GDM-loginscreen. Any ideas?
[15:59] <charlie-tca> from the topic - Python 2.7 rebuilds are happening now, please wait with updates/upgrades until the rebuilds are done.
[15:59] <penguin42> filosofixit: If you select the classic desktop does it work?
[16:00] <charlie-tca> You can try switching to a tty and updating with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, there was a fix for that.
[16:00] <filosofixit> penguin42 : nope... all choices end up back at the loginscreen
[16:01] <filosofixit> but it appears that I am logged in when I dump back at the login screen (a green ticker on my username)
[16:03] <filosofixit> maybe I should do a clean install....
[16:19] <IdleOne> libubuntuone1.0-cil is still broken ?
[17:29] <Volkodav> Anybody has an idea how long the python rebuild may take ? I never rebooted since I removed a lot of stuff bedore saw the warning lol
[17:37] <Vanishing> anyone here use ejabberd?
[17:37] <Vanishing> upgrade yesterday added a ejabberd to my gdm user list..
[17:38] <charlie-tca> Like a new user?
[17:39] <Vanishing> well
[17:39] <Vanishing> i had ejabberd user before
[17:39] <Vanishing> but then it didn't show up in gdm login window
[17:39] <Vanishing> this time it did
[17:39] <Vanishing> alone with yaws
[17:39] <charlie-tca> Hm, maybe it is just looking for all users now?
[17:39] <Vanishing> lols
[17:40] <Vanishing> that would be a bit...out of this world..
[17:40] <charlie-tca> What about giving it a UID outside the normal users id?
[17:40] <Vanishing> below 1000?
[17:40] <charlie-tca> yes, but I am just guessing at it...
[17:40] <Vanishing> but how?
[17:40] <Vanishing> i checked /etc/group and /etc/passwd
[17:41] <Vanishing> they are well under
[17:41] <charlie-tca> oh
[17:41] <charlie-tca> well, then... I have no idea
[17:41] <Vanishing> hmm
[17:41] <Vanishing> thanks anyways
[17:41] <charlie-tca> Maybe someone else will jump in, or at least answer in a bit
[17:42] <Vanishing> the other 196 ppl are busy..xD
[17:44] <Vanishing> charlie-tca: http://www.danielgibbs.net/journal/how-to-remove-user-names-from-ubuntu-9-10-gdm-login-screen
[17:44] <rigved> or they have no clue on how to help you!
[17:45] <Vanishing> charlie-tca: seems the only way is to disable user list?...T.T
[17:45] <Vanishing> rigved: or that..XD
[17:51] <Vanishing> charlie-tca: testing this method..http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9439011#post9439011
[17:51] <Vanishing> charlie-tca: ty again...brb
[17:53] <Vanishing> charlie-tca: worked
[17:55] <charlie-tca> Great! Although I think I did not help with it, anymore then the rest in here.
[18:13] <detrate> hi, I've tried installing ubuntu 11.04 by upgrading from 10.10 twice on my laptop
[18:13] <detrate> it failed both times
[18:13] <detrate> something about python 2.7-minimal failing to install
[18:13] <detrate> this is in a wubi environment, if it matters
[18:14] <detrate> I was tempted to upgrade because of the poor performance I was getting in 10.10 netbook version
[18:15] <detrate> I have a dell studio, i7 with ATi video that runes like a slug in 10.10 with the ATi drivers installed
[18:15] <detrate> the window decorations are littered with fragmented colors
[18:16] <nit-wit> detrate, how did it run with generic drivers
[18:16] <detrate> much better but the window decorations still have fragmented colors, however they are different
[18:16] <detrate> I'd show you a screenshot but the boot stalls at the wubi virtual drive lookup porition
[18:17] <nit-wit> detrate, did load a actual ati diver did you try onr opg the ppa
[18:17] <detrate> I can reinstall and take more screenshots if this is helpful
[18:17] <detrate> the ati drive from jockey-gtk
[18:17] <detrate> diver*
[18:17] <detrate> driver* >_<
[18:18] <detrate> is there any way to recover my system from this python issue?
[18:18] <detrate> or do I have to reinstall?
[18:19] <nit-wit> detrate, for a downgrade yes
[18:19] <detrate> well, I'd like to run 11.04 if possible
[18:19] <detrate> All I did was update-manager -d
[18:20] <detrate> and it failed on the python package
[18:20] <detrate> this is a touchscreen laptop, so I'm really interested in getting the most out of unity with it if possible
[18:20] <detrate> but so far... my thinkpad is kicking the crap out of the dell studio
[18:21] <nit-wit> detrate, try this ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[18:21] <detrate> okay, so those are the most up-to-date drivers?
[18:21] <detrate> but I probably have to reinstall maverick first, eh?
[18:25] <nit-wit> detrate, I think you may not undersatnd the world of open source
[18:26] <detrate> well, that is quite the assumption
[18:26] <nit-wit> detrate, little or know support for any drivers most are reverse engineered
[18:26] <detrate> I understand that
[18:27] <nit-wit> detrate, you want help or abuse I can abuse you if you like.;)
[18:27] <detrate> I'm just trying to figure out what the best fit for this laptop would be
[18:28] <nit-wit> detrate, You might try a thread at the UF that lsts the graphics card bigger base of people to see the information
[18:29] <detrate> well, I'm over the ATi issue, I realize that nvidia does much better in this regard
[18:29] <detrate> I just want to know about the python issue at this point
[18:30] <detrate> should I just hold off on upgrading to 11.04 beta? or do I need to take additional steps to get the beta installed properly?
[18:30] <detrate> the only reason I'm using wubi by the way, is because this is on a windows 7 laptop that they didn't give me a reinstallation CD for
[18:31] <detrate> but like I said, it's a touchscreen and I'd be very intersted in getting more involved with linux + touch
[18:32] <detrate> okey dokey
[18:32] <detrate> well that's cool, I'll see what's happening in the Arch world
[22:21] <coz_> hey all