| kaushal | have Dell Laptop A860 Core2 Duo wishing to install Ubuntu 10.10 with 4 Gigs RAM | 01:05 |
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| kaushal | is it better to go for 32 Bit or 64 Bit | 01:05 |
| head_victim | In my experience if you have a computer that is 64bit capable there is not reason not to go with 64bit but there will be others who disagree. | 01:07 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:07 |
| kaushal | So video card Memory is shared in RAM | 01:08 |
| head_victim | That has nothing to do with 32/64 bit it's got to do with what specific hardware you have | 01:09 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:10 |
| kaushal | so is there a way to know how much RAM a Video Card uses ? | 01:12 |
| kaushal | is it cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep RAM | 01:12 |
| head_victim | Not sure, I've only ever had video cards with their own ram, not system shared | 01:12 |
| kaushal | so i did ran that command | 01:13 |
| kaushal | is it cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i RAM | 01:13 |
| kaushal | is it returned 256MB | 01:14 |
| head_victim | Sorry mate, I wouldn't know where to start. It's possible though as that sounds about normal. The laptop specifications should list how much it uses though | 01:14 |
| kaushal | head_victim: sure | 01:15 |
| kaushal | head_victim: Thanks | 01:15 |
| kaushal | so ideally I should go for 64 Bit | 01:15 |
| head_victim | I would use it but for some reason http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download always suggests the 32bit as recommended. I personally haven't had an issue with 64bit in a couple of years. | 01:16 |
| head_victim | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit | 01:17 |
| head_victim | I guess the decision is split depending on what website you're looking at. | 01:17 |
| kaushal | head_victim: At the moment I am running 32 Bit 10.10 | 01:22 |
| kaushal | is it better to use pae kernel or better to use 64 Bit OS ? | 01:23 |
| dns53 | what are you running? do you have more than 4gb of ram and do you have a program that will need more than 4gb of memory? | 01:24 |
| kaushal | nope | 01:24 |
| kaushal | I have just 4 GB RAM | 01:25 |
| dns53 | personally i'd run a 64 bit os, but flash is not quite as stable | 01:25 |
| kaushal | but the 32 Bit OS reports 3.4 GB and out of 3.4 GB 256mb is shared by Video Card | 01:25 |
| kaushal | flash ? | 01:26 |
| dns53 | yes, that is why you need a pae kernel (this is a hack to allow a 32 bit os to address more than 3 gb of memory) or a native 64 bit kernel | 01:27 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:27 |
| kaushal | dns53: i didnot understand about flash ? | 01:27 |
| dns53 | adobe flash has a 64 bit port, it works but it is not the best port | 01:27 |
| kaushal | oh ok | 01:27 |
| dns53 | it's fine for me, but results may vary | 01:28 |
| kaushal | dns53: so i would reinstall 10.10 with 64 Bit OS | 01:29 |
| kaushal | head_victim: Thanks | 01:29 |
| kaushal | dns53: Thanks | 01:29 |
| kaushal | apologies for bugging | 01:29 |
| dns53 | nothing wrong with asking | 01:30 |
| head_victim | No worries at all | 01:33 |
| kaushal | Also I have found something interesting also | 01:44 |
| kaushal | so HT means Hyperthreading | 01:45 |
| kaushal | http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Understanding_proc_cpuinfo.html | 01:45 |
| kaushal | so HT is enabled in the BIOS ? | 01:45 |
| kaushal | and I have HT as flag in cpuinfo | 01:46 |
| kaushal | so to use HT i need to use SMP kernel ? | 01:46 |
| kaushal | please help me understand | 01:46 |
| dns53 | so hyperthreading can be disabled in the bios as it could potentially cause problems | 01:48 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:49 |
| dns53 | there is no smtp kernel any more, you do not need a different kernel to use smtp anymore, you did need one 1998-2002 ish | 01:50 |
| kaushal | oh ok | 01:50 |
| head_victim | dns53: ever seen an issue with HT though? | 01:50 |
| kaushal | dns53: you said potential problems | 01:51 |
| dns53 | head_victim never, but bios manufacturers put flags like that in case there are problems | 01:51 |
| kaushal | not sure i understand that | 01:51 |
| head_victim | dns53: ah ok, just curious because again I'd heard it was possible but another of those things I'd never seen in real life. | 01:51 |
| dns53 | so it is not a problem but it was new so they have the option to dissable things incase | 01:51 |
| head_victim | Yep, sounds fair. | 01:52 |
| dns53 | head_victim i've had occasional problems with the virtualisation extensions so it can be useful to have | 01:52 |
| head_victim | dns53: ah ok, I guess it would make sense to be able to switch "features" on and off, especially from a "stable" point of view. | 01:53 |
| dns53 | kaushal back to your question, hyper threading is more like 1 1/2 cpu's, so you can do a little more than you would if you just had the single core | 01:54 |
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| kaushal | dns53: sorry i got disconnected | 01:55 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:56 |
| dns53 | a computer does processing a small chunk at a time, so you would read a file for a fraction of a second, draw something on screen for a fraction, read something off a network etc | 01:56 |
| dns53 | so hyper threading allows the cpu to do one thing and part of another thing in the time slice | 01:56 |
| kaushal | ok | 01:57 |
| kaushal | so if i enable HT in my BIOS | 01:58 |
| kaushal | if I am having Core 2 Duo | 01:58 |
| kaushal | so it would lead to issues ? | 01:58 |
| kaushal | as far as yes | 01:58 |
| dns53 | i have not heard of any problems, you get more performance | 01:58 |
| kaushal | dns53: but you said potential problems | 01:59 |
| dns53 | there are none but hardware manufacturers put things in because it is almost impossible to fix later | 02:00 |
| kaushal | ok | 02:01 |
| kaushal | Also as per http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Understanding_proc_cpuinfo.html | 02:01 |
| kaushal | it specifies about Intel | 02:01 |
| kaushal | How do i understand if its AMD | 02:01 |
| dns53 | it will have it will say: vendor_id: AuthenticAMD | 02:03 |
| dns53 | my server's cpu info: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/542134/ | 02:03 |
| kaushal | yes | 02:04 |
| kaushal | but how to make out ifs single core or dual core | 02:05 |
| dns53 | you look and see how many cores it describes, amd does not have hyper threading | 02:06 |
| kaushal | it says 2 cores | 02:07 |
| kaushal | so its a single physical processor ? | 02:07 |
| dns53 | it probably has 1 | 02:07 |
| dns53 | 1 chip itself, 2 cores | 02:08 |
| kaushal | ok | 02:08 |
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| head_victim | Is it just me or has FF been a bit crashy of late? | 05:31 |
| head_victim | My bad, it's flash that's buggy, not FF. | 05:50 |
| kaushal | hi | 08:22 |
| kaushal | can someone please guide me to install Flash on firefox 64 Bit | 08:22 |
| kaushal | I am on 10.10 64 Bit OS | 08:22 |
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