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Mohan_chmlhey Vantrax_home00:03
Vantrax_homehi mohi00:03
Mohan_chmlI will head back to sleep soon. Just woke up in the middle :P00:04
Mohan_chmlhow are you Vantrax_home ?00:04
Vantrax_homegood, been very busy lately00:04
Vantrax_homeand getting frustrated with the Asia-Oceania RMB lately too00:04
Mohan_chmlI know that by the timings you make to the meetings . but dont worry. you will get it managed by the next meeting ;)00:05
fatharrahmanyofel: hi00:37
yofelhey00:37
fatharrahmanyou will not believe how did I solve my bug00:37
fatharrahmanor fixed it00:38
UndiFineD:)00:38
fatharrahmanor something alike00:38
yofelwell, fire away ^^00:38
fatharrahmanI went to bed00:38
yofel. . .00:39
fatharrahmanyofel: am sorry this was a relog thought it fixed !00:41
fatharrahmanI was dreeming :)00:41
fatharrahmangd nifgt00:41
yofelheh, gn00:42
thewrathis bodhizazen still around?00:43
johnny77If I clean installed Ubuntu, then installed Xubuntu, is there a way to get a pure Xubuntu install?00:56
UndiFineDyes by removing all non ubuntu packages .. maybe the: System -> Administration -> Computer Janitor works .. if it is available in xubuntu01:02
UndiFineDjohnny77,01:02
johnny77UndiFineD: I do not want to get rid of Xubuntu, and have a pure gnome(Ubuntu). But rather get rid of gnome and have a pure xfce.01:06
UndiFineDyes that was my intention too01:07
pleia2johnny77: you can remove the ubuntu-desktop package, you'll end up with a huge list of packages that you can autoremove after that which are related01:07
UndiFineDoh you did this pleia2 ?01:08
pleia2it'll remove a lot (probably open office too) but you can just add back the default stuff you want01:08
pleia2UndiFineD: yeah, I've done it with kubuntu-desktop and things in the past01:08
johnny77UndiFineD: sorry, I misunderstood you. when you said remove all non ubuntu packages, it sounded like you where trying to get rid of Xubuntu.01:08
UndiFineD:)01:09
pleia2(xubuntu doesn't come with open office, it comes with abiword and gnumeric instead)01:09
UndiFineDfollow pleia201:09
UndiFineDshe did this01:09
firewall_03any of you guys use a netbook?01:09
johnny77me.01:09
firewall_03what you using? The netbook remix?01:10
fixer007me too01:10
pleia2I just use regular ubuntu01:10
fixer007not anymore01:10
firewall_03I really don't like it a whole lot, its alright01:10
pleia2I didn't care for it much either :\01:11
fixer007it is made fore a touchscreen01:11
firewall_03is Xubuntu pretty decent?01:11
firewall_03fixer007:  that explains a lot01:11
johnny77I really didn't like the new netbook remix that came with 10.10. I am now running Xubuntu and loving it.01:11
pleia2xubuntu is my favorite01:11
fixer007i don#t like it01:11
firewall_03why don't you like it?01:12
fixer007i like the easy stuff01:12
firewall_03like?01:12
fixer007dragging icones01:12
firewall_03what os has that?01:13
fixer007unbuntu, kubuntu01:13
firewall_03ah01:13
fixer007it works very good on a netbook01:14
firewall_03kubuntu?01:14
fixer007i only tryed ubuntu on the netbook01:14
johnny77Kubuntu was sluggish to say the least on my netbook.01:15
firewall_03is there an easy way to switch to ubuntu without doing a clean install?01:15
fixer007it need more power01:15
pleia2install the ubuntu-desktop package01:15
firewall_03sudo apt-get ?01:16
pleia2sure, or via the software center01:16
firewall_03ah01:16
firewall_03sweet01:16
firewall_03I thought I was going to have to do a clean install01:16
fixer007jou can first install the ubuntu desktop and then remove xbuntu-desktop01:17
fixer007if you like it01:18
firewall_03well I am still running netbook remix01:23
firewall_03I am going to install that now01:23
firewall_03I did a search in the software center and it didn't find it01:25
firewall_03well I am gonna try xubuntu instead01:30
fixer007can't find it ether01:35
firewall_03well sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop worked so01:35
fixer007maybee in synaptic01:35
firewall_03its runnin01:35
fixer007I have tryed xubuntu but jou need to know more about jour system01:37
firewall_03what do you mean?01:37
fixer007to get things done01:38
firewall_03I am pretty familiar with it, I just never done it like that before is all01:38
fixer007it is good to try01:39
fixer007you don't have to spend a lot01:39
firewall_03back01:43
firewall_03still looks the same01:43
fixer007you have to chance the desktop before jou loggedin01:45
firewall_03ah ok01:45
firewall_03I like this a lot better01:47
fixer007i missed mine desktop with the remix01:49
firewall_03oh you liked the remix?01:49
fixer007no i tryed it01:50
fixer007sometimes i try the other desktop for a time but ubuntu become my favorite01:51
fixer007it suprise me that everything is working out of the box01:52
firewall_03why's that01:54
fixer007you can combine it with a lot of other apps and it stays stabel01:57
firewall_03ya01:57
fixer007no digging aroud in manuals01:58
firewall_03right01:58
fixer007how is your xbuntu working02:01
firewall_03awesome02:07
firewall_03I am going to try and install conky02:11
firewall_03so far conky is workin good02:26
firewall_03so how is everyone doing tonight?02:29
MrAnthropeGreat!02:38
MrAnthropeI have DDO running, I'm happy.02:38
firewall_03ddo?02:49
firewall_03whats that?02:59
thewrathhey all04:18
hajourhai thewrath04:18
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firewall_03hey04:38
zkriesseHello firewall_0304:41
freebirdI'm not sure if this is the right place to ask questions or not04:55
Mohan_chml!ask | freebird04:55
ubot2freebird: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)04:55
freebirdi have beat my head against the desk for several days trying to setup openssh to 127.0.0.1:8080 everytime i try it says  it can't due to port 22 or i get that annoying warning message04:58
thewrathyou sure you have openssh-server installed freebird ?04:59
freebirdi did and i have removed it and reinstalled it serval times using the apt-get remove05:00
freebirdi have edited the sshd.conf and the ssh.conf done everything i could think of to get a freash install after editing those files05:02
thewrathtry the other iP05:02
thewrathoh wait05:02
thewrath808005:02
thewrathhmm not sure the top of my head05:02
morphaeus08for whatever reason whenever i click Places > [any of the shortcuts], VLC opens the folder.. how do i get it to open the shortcuts as a folder05:02
freebirdyeah 8080 actually anyport will work if it will allow me to surf the web with it  with the d function05:03
freebirdmorphaeus08 i had this issue last week you need to open from termanal05:05
morphaeus08ok05:06
freebirdi forget the command you need to type give me a min see if i can find it again05:06
morphaeus08thanks, i really appreciate it05:06
freebirdmorpheaus can you get where you can see any folders you can rightclick05:11
morphaeus08ya05:12
freebirdok try this05:13
morphaeus08just fixed it105:13
morphaeus08! awesome05:13
ubot2Factoid 'awesome' not found05:13
freebirdOnce in the home folder..05:13
freebirdRight click any of the other folders, ie, downloads, pictures, music, etc..05:13
freebird( Or you could right click on the home folder to do the same thing)05:13
freebirdthen choose "open with another application"05:13
freebird17471605:13
freebirdwhen the list of applications comes up to choose from..05:13
freebirdchoose "open folder".05:13
freebirdand make sure you check off the little box, that says.. "remember for this type of file"05:13
freebird17471705:13
freebirdAfter that, when you open any "places".. it should open as it normally does.05:13
freebirdsweet05:13
freebird!cool05:14
ubot2Factoid 'cool' not found05:14
freebirdwould you happen to know about openssh05:14
morphaeus08thanks for the help, you got me thinking in the right direction... no idea why i didnt get that before. should've been obvious to me05:14
morphaeus08a little, not a lot05:14
freebirdlol np05:14
freebirdi'm new to linux myself so i have had alot of issues  and had to figure them out this is the first time i have been to irc05:15
morphaeus08i've been using ~3 years, what do you think of it so far?05:16
freebirddidn't know ubuntu had one til tonight05:16
freebirdi love it :P frusterating but the flexiblity is awsome05:17
morphaeus08freenode has an ubuntu channel(s)05:17
freebirdfreenode?05:17
morphaeus08its an IRC server05:17
morphaeus08irc.freenode.net if i'm not mistaken05:17
morphaeus08alot of different OSS projects have channels there05:18
freebirdok cool05:18
freebirdso what brought you to ubuntu 3 yr ago05:18
morphaeus08curiousity... i getting serious about programming and was learning about open source. so i decided to get a live cd and play around with it. ended up redoing my computer and dual booting ubuntu and winxp... i switched exclusively to ubuntu back in june05:19
freebirdwhat got my attention was i'm a computer tech by trade and windows i know it inside and out and wanted a challenge and ubuntu was the answer and i have been trying to learn to program for several yrs and in windows  i wasn't easy to find answers for most of the code didn't want to work with me as i read it was linux code not w3205:21
morphaeus08what language(s)?05:22
freebirdpython mainly05:22
morphaeus08i like python, i prefer java for the structure/syntax but thats just preference. python is really good for scripting on ubuntu though, top notch integration05:23
freebirdi have figured some out but yet to make a working app yet  always get errors then i get stuck and beat my head against the wall for a week or so then decide to delete it and start freash05:24
morphaeus08what kind of programs have you tried building05:25
freebirdfirewalls with encryption to 127.0.0.1 for all traffic05:26
freebirdi'm probaly trying to make something way past my expertize05:26
morphaeus08sounds complex... are you utilizing objects05:26
freebirdwhat do you mean looking at previous attempts of coding it05:27
freebirdno i delete them then start over05:27
fran1I need help with meerkat my wireless is not showing up and keeps reading wireless disconnected05:27
morphaeus08@freebird, read up on OOP (object oriented programming), i bet it'd make your firewall program easier to understand/manage.05:28
freebirddo you see the wireless icon by the clock click it and see if it sees your router05:28
morphaeus08@fran1 could you describe the problem a little more05:29
freebirdok i will do ty05:29
fran1i installed 10.10 and now wireless is not detecting my network but the card is blinking05:30
freebirdfran1 are you on a laptop?05:30
fran1yes05:30
morphaeus08did you upgrade to 10.10 from a previous version or is it a fresh install?05:31
fran1fresh install05:31
freebirdmake sure your wireless is turned on  there is a switch that could have gotten turned off by accident i have done this before05:31
morphaeus08what kind of card do you have05:32
fran1it's a netgear 802.1105:32
morphaeus08does that card have proprietary drivers?05:32
morphaeus08if so i'd click System > Administration > Additional Drivers to see if they can be installed. otherwise, netgear should have a CD, we have a USB card that we needed to install drivers with05:33
freebirdmaybe this could help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v305:34
fran1card does have drivers05:35
freebirddo you have a wifi icon near your clock at the top of your screen05:37
morphaeus08bye guys05:37
freebirdlol and he left05:38
freebirdlater bro05:38
freebirdbye guys05:38
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shahanHello everyone.08:03
shahanI installed KDE on My gnome Maverick08:04
shahanI installed the KDE through https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/config-desktop/C/other-desktops.html#other-desktop-kde08:04
shahanthis link08:04
shahannow I want to remove it ...08:04
shahansudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop08:05
shahanwill it work?08:05
shahanwill it be safe?08:05
ssj6akshatshahan, I would prefer sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop08:07
ssj6akshatthere might be some config files that KDE apps might use08:07
shahanhmm08:08
shahanwats the difference between these two command08:08
shahan?08:08
nit-witshahan, if you want to remove the whole thing correctly  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index08:09
JoeMaverickSettor you could use this guide and leave "&& sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" from the command ---->> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome08:09
JoeMaverickSettshahan: ^08:09
nit-witJoeMaverickSett, think the same eh08:10
JoeMaverickSettnit-wit: i was .1 second slower on hitting the Enter key. :D08:10
JoeMaverickSettnit-wit: other than that it's the same.08:11
nit-witJoeMaverickSett, good website08:11
JoeMaverickSettnit-wit: it is. saved me from the triple desktop environment maddness. =P08:12
hobgoblinI'd not leave the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop out unless there's a good reason to do so08:12
nit-withobgoblin, howdy08:13
hobgoblinhi there :)08:13
JoeMaverickSetthello hobgoblin :)08:13
hobgoblinhi there too :)08:13
hobgoblinJoeMaverickSett: why do you say to not leave the install ub-desktop in the command from aysiu?08:14
nit-withobgoblin, left you a dialogue message on the event08:15
JoeMaverickSetthobgoblin: hmm, i assumed that the ubuntu-desktop is already been installed. :|08:15
hobgoblinnit-wit: seen it08:16
hobgoblinJoeMaverickSett: it is best to leave it in - imo anyway ... also that remove list includes all kde stuff so in my case I have to reinstall any kde stuff I have - which I do08:17
hobgoblinbut from memory the page says that anyway :)08:17
JoeMaverickSett:D08:17
Mohan_chmlHola hobgoblin =]08:20
hobgoblinhi Mohan_chml08:21
Mohan_chmlHow are you these days hobgoblin? I missed about 10 days as I went to my native08:22
hobgoblinno real internet and a heavy cold08:23
Mohan_chmlwhat is the temperature there?08:23
hobgoblin0C - but that doesn't mean much - I just feel rubbish08:25
hobgoblinbrb08:25
Silver_Fox_Hello.08:41
Mohan_chmlwb Silver_Fox_ (:08:41
ssj6akshathello Silver_Fox_08:41
Silver_Fox_Hello Mohan_chml .08:41
Silver_Fox_Hello ssj6akshat .08:42
Silver_Fox_How are you both?08:42
Mohan_chmlSilver_Fox_, Woke up early at Saturday?? :P08:42
ssj6akshatA bit stuck in homework loop08:42
Mohan_chmlSilver_Fox_, I am doing great. ty08:42
Mohan_chmlyou?08:42
Mohan_chmlssj6akshat, is that needed for an admin?? :P08:43
Silver_Fox_Mohan_chml,  Not seen the time yet ;)08:44
ssj6akshatMohan_chml, not really homework, but project work08:44
Silver_Fox_It's not that early08:44
Silver_Fox_08:4408:44
hobgoblintoo early if you ask me08:44
Mohan_chmlhobgoblin, +100 :D08:44
ssj6akshatMohan_chml, it is worth 20 marks each for mathematics and social science08:44
Mohan_chmlssj6akshat, just add marks by yourself in the school machine ;)08:45
ssj6akshatMohan_chml, my school doesn't use computers for recording a student's progress....08:46
ssj6akshatyet! :P08:46
Mohan_chmlaww :|08:46
Silver_Fox_fox is off.  goodbye09:35
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hobgoblinafternoon - anyone in here any good with usb dongles? I know I'm not :(12:50
blackestAny idea why i might be banned from #ubuntu could it be my isps proxy ?12:55
hobgoblinblackest: go ask in #ubuntu-ops they'll be able to help I would think12:57
Humming-BirdTrying to install Ubuntu on my netbook through a USB. But keep getting "No common CD-ROM drive was detected" and the netbook don't have a CD/DVD drive, anyone got any suggestions?13:25
bioterrordid you make the usb stick with Unetbootin?13:27
bioterroror what did you use13:27
Humming-BirdI used Universal-USB-Installer13:27
Humming-Birdfound it on pendrivelinux13:27
bioterrorwhat and what says  "No common CD-ROM drive was detected"13:28
bioterrordoes your laptop support for bootin from USB?13:28
Humming-Birdbioterror: yes, it does. I have done it before, but no is not working anymore.13:29
bioterrorwell13:30
bioterrordid you check the md5sum of .iso before creating that usb stick13:30
Mohan_chmlHumming-Bird, check whether your USB is bootable. check whether it auto-plays when you plug it in a running machine13:30
Mohan_chmlheya bioterror =]13:30
bioterrorhi mohi13:30
Mohan_chmlI think you have enjoyed this saturday. saw you away the whole day :P13:31
Mohan_chmlas away*13:31
bioterrorhahahaha13:31
bioterrorwe have guests13:31
Humming-BirdI'm getting to the installer menu, so it's is bootable, but then it try to dectect the CD Rom drive it fails -.-, bioterror havn'13:31
Humming-Birdchecked the md5sum13:31
bioterrorsomething wrong with the stick13:32
bioterrorI think you should try unetbootin, I've lots of succesfull usb installation with it13:32
bioterrorI've got13:32
Humming-Birdbioterror: will try that ^^,13:32
pumba_hello..14:25
pumba_i've been directed here from another channel...14:25
pumba_is anyone here available (Some seconds)14:25
pumba_to help me step by step in solving a problem?14:25
serfuspumba_, i can try :)14:26
pumba_ohhh!! thanks!14:26
pumba_finally a volunteer14:26
serfus:) shoot14:26
pumba_the problem is this! I have installed ubuntu 10.10 over my laptop...14:26
pumba_but the wireless card is not recognized.14:26
pumba_so i have tried to look up in google,14:26
pumba_and found a site with the solution.14:26
pumba_the problem is that I dont know what to do14:27
pumba_the site is this : http://hostap.epitest.fi/14:27
pumba_in few words.. i have to install this "Host AP"14:27
pumba_can you help me?14:27
serfusi'm not sure if you need it, what card do you use?14:29
pumba_its an old intersil with prism 2.514:29
pumba_as reported in that site14:29
pumba_the site says that this host ap has the drivers i need14:30
pumba_if i get the file hostapd-0.7.3.tar.gz14:30
pumba_then what do I have to do with it to install?14:30
pumba_I am using a windows laptop now, but I have the ubuntu one beside me... (not connected obviously)14:32
pumba_I can transfer file from here to there, with an external usb pen14:32
serfusoh i see, seems like it's available through the repositories14:33
pumba_repositories?14:33
pumba_the problem is that i cannot connected it to the net and download anything directly :(14:34
serfushttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/hostapd14:35
serfusyou should download a deb from there14:35
pumba_may i download the file14:35
pumba_from windows here, and bring it with a usb pen to the other laptop?14:35
serfusyes14:36
pumba_which file do i need to get? there are many on that page...14:36
serfusis your machine i386 or amd64 ?14:36
pumba_its a pentium 4 mobile14:36
pumba_it has some years14:37
serfusdownload this package14:37
serfushttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hostapd/1:0.6.10-2/+build/1725774/+files/hostapd_0.6.10-2_i386.deb14:37
pumba_got it14:38
pumba_do i need anything else or should i transfer it there now?14:38
serfustransfer and then install it on your ubuntu14:39
pumba_ok hold on a second14:39
pumba_please dont leave14:39
serfusi'm here, don't worry :)14:39
pumba_i dragged14:41
pumba_the file to the ubuntu desktop14:41
pumba_do I have just to double click on it, to install?14:41
serfusyes14:41
pumba_it opened the ubuntu software center14:42
pumba_there's a button.. "install"14:42
pumba_i click over it.. okie?14:42
serfusyup14:42
pumba_i think it installed...14:43
pumba_now I should reboot?14:43
pumba_or the wireless should already work?14:43
serfusno, i don't think so. but i'm not familiar with it14:43
serfushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35371514:44
serfusthis post seems very informational14:44
pumba_seems complicate! :/14:44
serfuspumba_, wireless works?14:45
pumba_i'm trying to reboot14:45
pumba_after installation didn't change anything14:45
pumba_in the network icon14:45
pumba_lets see after reboot...14:46
pumba_no, nothing, still the same :(14:47
pumba_maybe I need to install also that14:49
pumba_"WPA Supplicant" thing?14:49
pumba_how can we know, if physically, ubuntu...see the card?14:49
serfusunfortunately i'm not familiar with all this wireless stuff14:50
serfusso i'm trying to find some help from google14:50
pumba_its strange that when i had windows installed, it worked ok14:51
pumba_and now with ubuntu its not even recognized (14:51
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pumba_can you see if in the repository, there's also that wpa supplicant14:53
pumba_application?14:53
pumba_so that I can try to install it as well?14:53
serfuspumba_, seems like it is installed by default14:54
pumba_inside the package we downloaded and installed already?14:56
serfusno, with ubuntu 10.1014:57
pumba_ah...14:57
serfusdo you see something interesting in system>administration>network tools ?14:59
pumba_try to see here14:59
pumba_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb14:59
pumba_is this another driver?14:59
pumba_different from what we installed now?14:59
pumba_I think i need that driver...14:59
pumba_prism2_usb14:59
pumba_in system administration network tools15:00
pumba_under wireless (wlan0)15:00
pumba_see nothing .... hardware address al zeros15:00
pumba_I copied you that other page15:01
pumba_because in supported devices list15:01
pumba_i see exactly the card this laptop has:15:01
pumba_Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated15:01
pumba_its integrated in the monitor, but uses usb bus i guess.15:01
serfusok good15:01
pumba_do i need to install another driver?15:02
serfusif you saw exactly your card so i guess so15:02
pumba_yes, its in that list15:03
pumba_but that page is referring15:03
pumba_to old ubuntu distros?15:03
serfusi think it's referring to all of them15:03
pumba_but there's nothing to download...15:05
serfustry to exactly follow that man15:05
pumba_or at least... i dont see anything... to download15:05
pumba_can you look again15:07
pumba_in ur repository15:07
pumba_if you can find something15:07
pumba_related to15:07
pumba_linux-wlan15:07
pumba_?15:07
pumba_its the name of the project...15:07
pumba_ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/15:07
pumba_these should be the drivers i need15:07
serfusyes there is15:07
serfusyou need to download it15:07
serfussec15:08
pumba_can u give me the link so I can try to install it as we did before?15:08
duanedesignserfus: do you have anything under System > Preferences > Hardware Drivers ?15:11
duanedesignoops15:11
duanedesignpumba ^15:11
pumba_let me look15:11
pumba_i cant find that menu..........15:13
pumba_under system --- preferences15:13
pumba_audio...15:13
pumba_bluetooth...15:13
duanedesignmight be Additional Drivers15:13
Mohan_chmlpumba_, what version of Ubuntu are you currently using?15:13
pumba_network connections...15:13
pumba_you meant .. network?15:13
JoeMaverickSettSystem > Administration > Additional Drivers15:13
pumba_i installed 10.1015:13
pumba_oh..additional drivers15:13
pumba_no, its empty15:14
duanedesignok15:14
pumba_i have no drivers there.15:14
pumba_at first it warns me that i have no internet connection15:14
duanedesignpumba_: can you open a Terminal and run this command: lsmod | grep hostap15:14
pumba_I think i need to install these:15:14
pumba_http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11b.html#Prism215:14
pumba_i try -- hold on15:15
pumba_i think i have the wrong keyboard layout..15:17
pumba_as I cannot make the  |15:17
duanedesignok15:17
duanedesignpumba_: you can just do:  lsmod15:18
duanedesignpumba_: and look through the list manually15:18
pumba_i changed the keyboard layout successfully15:19
pumba_and was able to input that command..15:19
duanedesignpumba_: lsmod will print a long list to the screen. Look through it and see if  'hostap' is there15:19
pumba_i ran it...but...15:19
duanedesignok15:19
pumba_it shows nothing15:19
duanedesignok15:19
duanedesigntry15:19
duanedesignmodprobe hostap_pci15:20
pumba_it gives me error messages..15:21
pumba_starting with15:21
pumba_WARNING: Error inserting hostap (/lib... etc etc15:21
pumba_operation not permitted15:21
pumba_FATAL: Error inserting hostap_pci.....15:21
pumba_serfus, have u found the repository link for linux-wlan-ng drivers?15:22
pumba_I have found this...15:24
pumba_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+search?text=linux-wlan-ng15:24
pumba_but do I have to install them all?15:25
pumba_im quite sure the card is a prism2 usb15:25
pumba_cause when windows recognized it at first15:25
pumba_said usb driver...15:25
pumba_Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated15:26
pumba_but I dont understand if i have to install this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/prism2-usb-firmware-installer15:28
pumba_or this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/linux-wlan-ng15:28
pumba_what would u suggest? :/15:29
duanedesignpumba_: the command:   lspci | grep Network15:29
duanedesignshould tell you which card you have15:29
pumba_i input that command15:30
pumba_but if i press Enter15:31
pumba_makes nothing.15:31
pumba_just pass to another line in the cursor.15:31
duanedesignok15:31
pumba_but i'm sure about the card being  Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated15:31
pumba_because in the original laptop installation driver15:31
pumba_for windows there's that driver, and it worked.15:32
pumba_i think installing15:33
pumba_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/linux-wlan-ng15:33
pumba_its worth a try15:33
pumba_i try now.. lets see15:33
duanedesignif the hostap driver does not work you can try the prism215:33
pumba_yes but whats the difference between /linux-wlan-ng package15:33
duanedesignpumba_: yeah thats it15:33
pumba_and prism2 usb firmware install?15:33
pumba_which one do i have to install? or both?15:34
duanedesignpumba_: can you run this command:  nmtool15:34
duanedesignsorry:  nm-tool15:34
pumba_oh!15:35
pumba_i see something15:35
pumba_device: wlan015:35
duanedesignshould be eth0 and wlan0  or something similar15:35
pumba_ype wired15:35
pumba_driver: prism2_usb15:35
pumba_state: disconnected15:35
duanedesignok good15:35
pumba_default: no15:35
pumba_hw address: all zeros15:35
pumba_its positive?15:36
duanedesignrun:  lsmod15:37
duanedesignand see if it is listed15:37
pumba_why the hardware address is 00:00:00:00:00:0015:37
duanedesignor better:  lsmod | grep prism2_usb15:38
pumba_no it seems not, i see a usbhid15:38
duanedesignpumba_: ok run -  modprobe prism2_usb15:39
pumba_prism2_usb     160970  015:39
pumba_i input also modprobe prism2_usb15:39
pumba_nothing.15:40
duanedesignwhare did this come from:  prism2_usb     160970  015:40
pumba_lsmod | grep prism2_usb15:41
duanedesignok15:41
duanedesignso it is loaded15:41
pumba_and prism2_usb is in red15:41
pumba_should I still install the driver above?15:43
pumba_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+search?text=linux-wlan-ng15:43
duanedesignpumba_: can you try the command:  sudo iwconfig15:43
duanedesignanything next to wlan0 ? other then 'no wireless extension'15:44
pumba_if i input sudo iwconfig15:45
pumba_and press enter15:45
pumba_nothing happens.15:45
pumba_just passes to the next cursor line15:45
pumba_ops15:45
pumba_sorry15:45
duanedesignhow about just:  iwconfig15:45
pumba_it asks for my password15:45
pumba_wait15:45
duanedesignyah15:45
pumba_i input passw15:45
pumba_it tells15:45
pumba_no wireless extensions15:46
pumba_to both 315:46
duanedesignok15:46
pumba_lo, eth0 and wlan015:46
duanedesignpumba_: how about:  rfkill list15:47
duanedesigndoes it return all: no15:48
pumba_hmmmm15:49
pumba_it does nothing15:49
pumba_rfkill list15:49
pumba_passes to the next line.15:49
duanedesignok15:50
duanedesignpumba_: ok how about:  lshw -C network15:51
pumba_it gives a warning15:52
duanedesignpumba_: for the wireless interface15:52
duanedesignyeah thats ok15:52
pumba_oh15:52
pumba_now it shows something15:52
duanedesignfor the wireless interface does it say -network DISABLED15:53
pumba_but all seems related to LAN not wireless15:53
pumba_and yes15:53
duanedesignusually the top entry is the ethernet15:53
pumba_it says15:53
pumba_*-network DISABLED15:53
pumba_for wireless15:53
pumba_locgical name: wlan015:54
pumba_physical id: 115:54
thewrathhe duanedesign15:54
duanedesignhello thewrath15:55
duanedesignpumba_: if you click on the network manager icon in the top panel. I think it is a right-click you can check a box next to 'Enable Wireless'15:55
pumba_back15:59
pumba_sorry i went a second downstairs15:59
pumba_top panel?15:59
pumba_you mean where the battery icon16:00
pumba_and clock are?16:00
pumba_yes16:00
pumba_there's the wireless icon16:00
pumba_with a big red ! over it16:01
pumba_and if i right click on it16:01
pumba_enable network functions16:01
pumba_is already checked16:01
duanedesignok16:01
fatharrahmanHiduanedesign16:02
duanedesignpumba_: is there a hardware switch16:02
pumba_the wireless is not disabled cause the lid is blue16:02
pumba_and on16:02
duanedesignok16:02
marcoyHello I'm having problems conecting view ing my hdmi to see movies on flatscreen and the audio output jack doesn't seem to work either16:04
pumba_duandesign: we give up?16:05
duanedesignpumba_: i am running out of ideas16:10
pumba_do you think i shouldnt even16:10
pumba_try those drivers I linked?16:10
pumba_ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/prism2-usb-firmware-installer16:11
pumba_what does that do?16:11
pumba_ a firmware update?16:11
pumba_maybe it will wake it up........16:11
duanedesignpumba_: i saw a thread on the forum that said a firmware update helped16:11
pumba_that package will make a firmware update?16:12
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duanedesignpumba_: i do not know16:20
kristian-aalborghi all16:22
nlsthznhey16:23
kristian-aalborgquick question - if I compile a custom kernel, my dmesg will (hopefully) change for the better, right?16:23
pumba_tried also that16:24
pumba_firmware update :(16:24
pumba_it did not help.........16:24
pumba_i will reinstall windows :(16:24
bioterrornooo16:24
kristian-aalborghi bioterror16:25
kristian-aalborgpumba_: what's the problem?16:25
pumba_massive wireless problem16:26
pumba_and card which is not recognized by ubuntu16:26
* nlsthzn hates when hardware doesn't work under Linux :(16:26
pumba_i wanted to get to know ubuntu as everyone was talking better16:26
pumba_but.. im already stuck16:26
kristian-aalborgpumba_: which chip?16:28
kristian-aalborgand which version of ubuntu+16:28
kristian-aalborg?16:28
pumba_i installed ubuntu 10.10 from the DVD16:28
pumba_wireless is16:28
pumba_Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated16:28
pumba_integrated in the TFT16:28
pumba_wireless is on, both lid and also enabled in BIOS16:29
pumba_but ubuntu cannot even find its hardware address.16:29
pumba_see the prism2_usb driver16:29
pumba_but hardware address: 00:00:00:00:00:0016:30
kristian-aalborghmm16:30
kristian-aalborgpumba_: sudo lshw -C network16:30
kristian-aalborgwhat's the output?16:30
pumba_we did that before .. but i try again16:30
kristian-aalborgalso, if you can find the exact name of the chip16:31
pumba_*-network DISABLED16:31
pumba_physical id:216:31
kristian-aalborgit's in the format 1233:b221 or something like that... that is a code for the vendor + chip16:31
pumba_logical name: wlan016:31
pumba_capabilities: ethernet physical16:31
pumba_configuration: broadcast=yes multicast=yes.16:32
pumba_I can onyl find that code you mention in windows16:32
pumba_but I already formatted the drive16:32
pumba_to install ubuntu :(((16:32
pumba_we cannot see that address in ubuntu?16:33
pumba_by installing some tools?16:33
kristian-aalborgsudo lspci -n16:33
kristian-aalborgtry that16:33
pumba_hmmmm16:34
pumba_there are many16:34
pumba_how can I know which one is the wireless card?16:34
kristian-aalborgplease throw the entire output of that on pastebin.com and then post the link here16:34
pumba_ok i try... with an external usb drive16:35
pumba_as i have no internet there16:35
kristian-aalborgthat would work16:36
pumba_yes i saved the doc16:36
pumba_i'm importing here16:36
nlsthzn!paste16:36
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pumba_http://pastebin.com/M0AVL8yY16:37
pumba_maybe that laptop is just too old for ubuntu16:47
nlsthznpumba_: older used to mean more likely to work (in Linux)16:47
pumba_its strange that win recognizes its wifi with no problems and ubuntu instead no :/16:48
nlsthznpumba_: have you tried the ubuntu forums yet?16:49
pumba_someone else suggested me to try..16:49
pumba_but at this point,16:49
pumba_i dont know anymore..16:49
nlsthznpumba_: if you have some time, check out the forums... at the very least start a thread if there is no answers... if not then best of luck on what ever other option you choose16:52
pumba_yes... i will keep this option16:52
pumba_its a pity anyway, because ubuntu from the few i can see...16:54
pumba_seems good16:54
kristian-aalborgpumba_: it is good16:54
kristian-aalborgwhat is the name of the computer? the full name, please16:55
nlsthznfor a temporary measure you could just use ethernet... if wifi isn't super important.... then at least you can explore it some more and still be online16:55
pumba_its a fujutsu siemens C102016:55
pumba_i have only wireless here16:57
pumba_as the router is far away16:57
pumba_and i cannot connect an ethernet cable16:57
pumba_maybe i will buy one of those... pcmcia wifi card...16:58
pumba_or a usb wifi card16:58
nlsthznpumba_: if u do decide to do that just make sure it is supported ;)16:58
pumba_auch...16:59
pumba_or maybe i will reinstall windows17:00
pumba_and then reinstall ubuntu17:00
pumba_in another partition17:00
pumba_so i can use both and make tests17:00
pumba_and see hardware addresses easily...17:00
nlsthznsure dual boot is a good idea :)... and yes, windows first, ubuntu second and you will be fine :D17:00
pumba_damn me ... i was so happy this morning17:01
pumba_when i formatted win17:01
pumba_to install ubuntu :/17:01
pumba_and when it asked.. if to use the whole disk17:01
pumba_or another partition17:01
pumba_i chosed the whole disk17:01
pumba_without eshitation! :/17:01
pumba_now i regret17:02
pumba_a friend of mine told me to throw that laptop in the trash17:03
pumba_and buy one with win717:03
nlsthznnah17:04
nlsthznonce you get wifi to work you will have a laptop faster than a new one with 7 installed and a load of spare cash17:05
pumba_i have no money anyway17:05
pumba_for a new one17:05
kristian-aalborgpumba_: the first few weeks on linux can be bewildering, but you'll end up liking it I hope17:05
pumba_we will see..how this goes...17:06
nlsthznpumba_: I think it would have been wiser to have run ubuntu in a virtual environemnt or a dual boot initially, jumping striaght to ubuntu from windows is sledom easy17:07
pumba_i know but...17:07
pumba_that windows after years of use17:07
pumba_had become very very slow17:07
pumba_so all I wanted was to format17:07
pumba_in any case17:07
pumba_i saved all my precious things17:08
pumba_and decided to give ubuntu a try17:08
pumba_for ordinary use i have this desktop im using17:08
nlsthznpumba_: try dual boot..., best of both worlds...17:08
nlsthznits free :D17:09
pumba_another problem is the hard drive...17:09
pumba_i think its 50 GB...17:09
nlsthzngive ubuntu 8 to 10 GB (you could get away with less) it doesn't need much...17:10
pumba_maybe i can also give 15 ---17:10
pumba_and leave the rest for windows17:10
nlsthznif you set up your partitions correctly you can have both windows and linux sharing any documents, music and video files, then ubuntu will need much less to operate...17:12
G_CodeHello peepill17:23
G_CodeIm like really raw and need some help with ubuntu 10.10 repository17:24
G_CodeI have a repo on a usb drive but It wont work anymore17:24
G_CodeI think my sources.list is screwed up17:25
G_Codehello...17:26
nlsthznG_Code: All the knowledgable people seem busy, just us noobs lurking it seems17:27
* nlsthzn continues to lurk17:27
G_Codeany idea how to regenerate a sources.list file?17:28
nlsthznno :(17:29
kristian-aalborgpumba_: sorry, but I can't seem to find a solution17:31
kristian-aalborgwould anybody know a way to have ubuntu log the boot time, so that I get "booted in 19 mins 32 secs" for instance17:31
nlsthznG_Code: so the repo is on USB and you just need the sources list to point to the USB?17:31
mishey, i have written an tool(cpp) which im using it is threaded etc. but it cant use 100% of my cpu (like the ubuntu scheluder wont let it use) from what i can see when this tool have focun on it it works like 30% faster than when it does not, maybe someone know what can cause it and how to fix it?17:32
G_Codecorrect nisthzn17:32
nlsthznG_Code: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1045375.html here they show how you can edit your sources list manually so you can add the usb yourself17:33
G_Codegotcha and thanks nisthzn17:35
nlsthznG_Code: no prob, hope it helps17:35
G_CodeIf not Its ok cos I am going to an ubuntu meeting tomorrow :)17:36
nlsthznCool stuff :)17:40
Silver_Fox_Hello.17:53
Mohan_chmlwb Silver_Fox_ =]17:55
nlsthznGreetings Silver_Fox_17:55
Silver_Fox_Hello Mohan_chml  and nlsthzn17:56
Silver_Fox_Goodbye.18:11
kristian-aalborgwould anybody know of a paste you can paste your dmesg and have it analyzed automatically?18:20
nit-witkristian-aalborg, http://www.codepad.eu/18:22
nlsthznkristian-aalborg: ubuntuforums.org (semi-automatic) :p18:22
kristian-aalborgI'm aware of the forums ;)18:22
nit-witI would agree with the forum this channel is a bit slow at the moment18:23
nit-witkristian-aalborg, whats the problem whats going on?18:23
kristian-aalborghttp://pastebin.com/SsyQ7bp918:24
kristian-aalborgnit-wit: not really "problems" per se, but I'm trying to optimize this box18:25
kristian-aalborgand as I'm about to build a custum kernel, I'm thinking that dmesg could guide me18:26
kristian-aalborgI get some weird "hangups" though18:28
kristian-aalborgI start typing a command, press TAB to complete it - and then I have to press CRTL-C to get back to working order18:28
kristian-aalborgI'd say that "something" is eating my resources when this happens18:29
kristian-aalborgnit-wit: feel free to comment on my dmesg :)18:29
nit-witkristian-aalborg, never been a log reader whats going on whats not working18:31
kristian-aalborgnothing is malfunctioning - I'd just like to see how lean I can get things18:32
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zkriesselolz21:14
fatharrahmanis lubuntu not supported by canonical ?21:19
fatharrahmanudienz : downloading 10.04 to test21:21
yofelfatharrahman: afaik it's not an official derivative yet, but should be soon21:21
yofel(afaik = as far as I know)21:22
fatharrahmanwho develop it yofel and why people don't like it?21:22
fatharrahmanis this a german21:23
fatharrahmanafaik21:23
yofellubuntu? I don't know who develops it, and I don't think that people don't like it, it's just quite new (compared to the other ubuntu versions)21:26
nit-wityofel, lubuntu is ubuntu with the lxde desktop?21:28
yofelright21:28
nit-witnot sure21:28
nit-wityofel, lxde has some limitations but a option with low ram21:29
nit-witnot in full released development either, lxde that is21:30
yofelI know, it's probably better for very old systems than xfce, haven't tried it in quite a while though21:30
nit-wityofel, any of theses three desktops can be installed and run from just palin ubuntu you know the login choice right21:31
nit-witplain21:31
fatharrahmanwhich is lighter lubuntu or xubuntu?21:32
nit-witfatharrahman, I would choose lubuntu but there are variables I suspect21:32
nit-witI liks lxde better the xfce I have used both extensively21:33
nit-witgoota go21:33
fatharrahmanwhat is the most light and small size to download disyro in linux21:34
fatharrahmanredhat? fedora? mint? lubuntu? debian?21:35
paultagfatharrahman: do you not like Germans?21:36
yofeldunno, but debian is certainly not small to download, except the minimal.iso, but ubuntu has that too.21:36
fatharrahmanI will visit Germany to say how ar yo yofel one day and gotta hing about a nice present paultag21:38
paultagjaja21:39
paultagok, well I'm off. Tschuss!21:39
fatharrahmanpaultag: what s distro that is light and small size iso to download now to test beside Ubuntu?21:41
yofelbis denn ^^21:41
fatharrahmanafaik paultag21:41
fatharrahman:)21:41
fatharrahmanyofel:mir helfen, eine andere Distribution testen21:43
yofelI can't really talk much there, debian is closest to ubuntu, but not small, fedora would be good to test, I heard arch linux should be good too, mint is an ubuntu modification21:44
fatharrahmangaracias21:44
fatharrahmangracias21:45
yofelby the way, where are you from?21:45
fatharrahmanVielen Dank21:45
fatharrahmanSudan21:45
yofelah, kein Problem ;)21:46
fatharrahmanam from Sudan in africa21:46
pumbahey kristian22:00
pumbaare you still online?22:00
pumbaduandesign22:02
pumbaare you still here?22:02
zachariahCan i get some help?22:41
zachariahAgain, I have a hp Deskjet 3050 and am running ubuntu 10.10. Hplip picks it up, but under printers it says that it needs a filter. I try to print a test page, it says that it has printed, but it has not. What can I do to fix it?22:41
zachariahI am trying to get it to setup. Another thing is, under hplip, it shows the ink lvls, but under printers and the ink lvls, is where it tells me i need a filter22:42
hajourzachariah, it maybe takes some time til there come someone.much are in meeting.in about a half hour i think they are ready22:43
zachariahok22:43
hajouri dont know something about it22:43
zachariahSo i need to be back in a half an hour22:43
hajouryes :)22:43
zachariahwell, thanks for listening22:43
hajouryour welcome zachariah22:43
hajour:)22:43
zachariahI have a few probs with 10.10 and sometimes I wish i had kept 10.04 lts22:44
zachariahsound and printing have the worst of the two, but overall it is faster I think22:44
zachariahAnother think, how can I delete old grub entries. I am used to windows and mac where all I do is point and click22:45
zachariahWhen I boot up, it shows a lot of different things from upgrades and my windows one22:45
hajouri also had windows first22:45
zachariahI really like ubuntu, but I wish more windows apps were supported and that more was available for it22:46
hajournow i got ubuntu 10.10 on my eeepc22:46
hajouri like ubuntu to22:47
zachariahWel, guess i will c ya in 30 min22:47
hajourok til later zachariah :)22:48
fatharrahmanhello udienz u r back23:10
fatharrahmanwhy there are some of you have a yellow light before their names and who is chanserv?23:13
hajourthe yellow light is for the one who are mentors i think23:23
udienzfatharrahman: hi, mentors.. maybe23:24
udienzbut i'm not sure23:24

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