[00:03] hey Vantrax_home [00:03] hi mohi [00:04] I will head back to sleep soon. Just woke up in the middle :P [00:04] how are you Vantrax_home ? [00:04] good, been very busy lately [00:04] and getting frustrated with the Asia-Oceania RMB lately too [00:05] I know that by the timings you make to the meetings . but dont worry. you will get it managed by the next meeting ;) [00:37] yofel: hi [00:37] hey [00:37] you will not believe how did I solve my bug [00:38] or fixed it [00:38] :) [00:38] or something alike [00:38] well, fire away ^^ [00:38] I went to bed [00:39] . . . [00:41] yofel: am sorry this was a relog thought it fixed ! [00:41] I was dreeming :) [00:41] gd nifgt [00:42] heh, gn [00:43] is bodhizazen still around? [00:56] If I clean installed Ubuntu, then installed Xubuntu, is there a way to get a pure Xubuntu install? [01:02] yes by removing all non ubuntu packages .. maybe the: System -> Administration -> Computer Janitor works .. if it is available in xubuntu [01:02] johnny77, [01:06] UndiFineD: I do not want to get rid of Xubuntu, and have a pure gnome(Ubuntu). But rather get rid of gnome and have a pure xfce. [01:07] yes that was my intention too [01:07] johnny77: you can remove the ubuntu-desktop package, you'll end up with a huge list of packages that you can autoremove after that which are related [01:08] oh you did this pleia2 ? [01:08] it'll remove a lot (probably open office too) but you can just add back the default stuff you want [01:08] UndiFineD: yeah, I've done it with kubuntu-desktop and things in the past [01:08] UndiFineD: sorry, I misunderstood you. when you said remove all non ubuntu packages, it sounded like you where trying to get rid of Xubuntu. [01:09] :) [01:09] (xubuntu doesn't come with open office, it comes with abiword and gnumeric instead) [01:09] follow pleia2 [01:09] she did this [01:09] any of you guys use a netbook? [01:09] me. [01:10] what you using? The netbook remix? [01:10] me too [01:10] I just use regular ubuntu [01:10] not anymore [01:10] I really don't like it a whole lot, its alright [01:11] I didn't care for it much either :\ [01:11] it is made fore a touchscreen [01:11] is Xubuntu pretty decent? [01:11] fixer007: that explains a lot [01:11] I really didn't like the new netbook remix that came with 10.10. I am now running Xubuntu and loving it. [01:11] xubuntu is my favorite [01:11] i don#t like it [01:12] why don't you like it? [01:12] i like the easy stuff [01:12] like? [01:12] dragging icones [01:13] what os has that? [01:13] unbuntu, kubuntu [01:13] ah [01:14] it works very good on a netbook [01:14] kubuntu? [01:14] i only tryed ubuntu on the netbook [01:15] Kubuntu was sluggish to say the least on my netbook. [01:15] is there an easy way to switch to ubuntu without doing a clean install? [01:15] it need more power [01:15] install the ubuntu-desktop package [01:16] sudo apt-get ? [01:16] sure, or via the software center [01:16] ah [01:16] sweet [01:16] I thought I was going to have to do a clean install [01:17] jou can first install the ubuntu desktop and then remove xbuntu-desktop [01:18] if you like it [01:23] well I am still running netbook remix [01:23] I am going to install that now [01:25] I did a search in the software center and it didn't find it [01:30] well I am gonna try xubuntu instead [01:35] can't find it ether [01:35] well sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop worked so [01:35] maybee in synaptic [01:35] its runnin [01:37] I have tryed xubuntu but jou need to know more about jour system [01:37] what do you mean? [01:38] to get things done [01:38] I am pretty familiar with it, I just never done it like that before is all [01:39] it is good to try [01:39] you don't have to spend a lot [01:43] back [01:43] still looks the same [01:45] you have to chance the desktop before jou loggedin [01:45] ah ok [01:47] I like this a lot better [01:49] i missed mine desktop with the remix [01:49] oh you liked the remix? [01:50] no i tryed it [01:51] sometimes i try the other desktop for a time but ubuntu become my favorite [01:52] it suprise me that everything is working out of the box [01:54] why's that [01:57] you can combine it with a lot of other apps and it stays stabel [01:57] ya [01:58] no digging aroud in manuals [01:58] right [02:01] how is your xbuntu working [02:07] awesome [02:11] I am going to try and install conky [02:26] so far conky is workin good [02:29] so how is everyone doing tonight? [02:38] Great! [02:38] I have DDO running, I'm happy. [02:49] ddo? [02:59] whats that? [04:18] hey all [04:18] hai thewrath === devil__ is now known as Mohan_chml === Mohan_chml is now known as Guest85885 === Guest37969 is now known as Mohan_chml [04:38] hey [04:41] Hello firewall_03 [04:55] I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask questions or not [04:55] !ask | freebird [04:55] freebird: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [04:58] i have beat my head against the desk for several days trying to setup openssh to 127.0.0.1:8080 everytime i try it says it can't due to port 22 or i get that annoying warning message [04:59] you sure you have openssh-server installed freebird ? [05:00] i did and i have removed it and reinstalled it serval times using the apt-get remove [05:02] i have edited the sshd.conf and the ssh.conf done everything i could think of to get a freash install after editing those files [05:02] try the other iP [05:02] oh wait [05:02] 8080 [05:02] hmm not sure the top of my head [05:02] for whatever reason whenever i click Places > [any of the shortcuts], VLC opens the folder.. how do i get it to open the shortcuts as a folder [05:03] yeah 8080 actually anyport will work if it will allow me to surf the web with it with the d function [05:05] morphaeus08 i had this issue last week you need to open from termanal [05:06] ok [05:06] i forget the command you need to type give me a min see if i can find it again [05:06] thanks, i really appreciate it [05:11] morpheaus can you get where you can see any folders you can rightclick [05:12] ya [05:13] ok try this [05:13] just fixed it1 [05:13] ! awesome [05:13] Factoid 'awesome' not found [05:13] Once in the home folder.. [05:13] Right click any of the other folders, ie, downloads, pictures, music, etc.. [05:13] ( Or you could right click on the home folder to do the same thing) [05:13] then choose "open with another application" [05:13] 174716 [05:13] when the list of applications comes up to choose from.. [05:13] choose "open folder". [05:13] and make sure you check off the little box, that says.. "remember for this type of file" [05:13] 174717 [05:13] After that, when you open any "places".. it should open as it normally does. [05:13] sweet [05:14] !cool [05:14] Factoid 'cool' not found [05:14] would you happen to know about openssh [05:14] thanks for the help, you got me thinking in the right direction... no idea why i didnt get that before. should've been obvious to me [05:14] a little, not a lot [05:14] lol np [05:15] i'm new to linux myself so i have had alot of issues and had to figure them out this is the first time i have been to irc [05:16] i've been using ~3 years, what do you think of it so far? [05:16] didn't know ubuntu had one til tonight [05:17] i love it :P frusterating but the flexiblity is awsome [05:17] freenode has an ubuntu channel(s) [05:17] freenode? [05:17] its an IRC server [05:17] irc.freenode.net if i'm not mistaken [05:18] alot of different OSS projects have channels there [05:18] ok cool [05:18] so what brought you to ubuntu 3 yr ago [05:19] curiousity... i getting serious about programming and was learning about open source. so i decided to get a live cd and play around with it. ended up redoing my computer and dual booting ubuntu and winxp... i switched exclusively to ubuntu back in june [05:21] what got my attention was i'm a computer tech by trade and windows i know it inside and out and wanted a challenge and ubuntu was the answer and i have been trying to learn to program for several yrs and in windows i wasn't easy to find answers for most of the code didn't want to work with me as i read it was linux code not w32 [05:22] what language(s)? [05:22] python mainly [05:23] i like python, i prefer java for the structure/syntax but thats just preference. python is really good for scripting on ubuntu though, top notch integration [05:24] i have figured some out but yet to make a working app yet always get errors then i get stuck and beat my head against the wall for a week or so then decide to delete it and start freash [05:25] what kind of programs have you tried building [05:26] firewalls with encryption to 127.0.0.1 for all traffic [05:26] i'm probaly trying to make something way past my expertize [05:26] sounds complex... are you utilizing objects [05:27] what do you mean looking at previous attempts of coding it [05:27] no i delete them then start over [05:27] I need help with meerkat my wireless is not showing up and keeps reading wireless disconnected [05:28] @freebird, read up on OOP (object oriented programming), i bet it'd make your firewall program easier to understand/manage. [05:28] do you see the wireless icon by the clock click it and see if it sees your router [05:29] @fran1 could you describe the problem a little more [05:29] ok i will do ty [05:30] i installed 10.10 and now wireless is not detecting my network but the card is blinking [05:30] fran1 are you on a laptop? [05:30] yes [05:31] did you upgrade to 10.10 from a previous version or is it a fresh install? [05:31] fresh install [05:31] make sure your wireless is turned on there is a switch that could have gotten turned off by accident i have done this before [05:32] what kind of card do you have [05:32] it's a netgear 802.11 [05:32] does that card have proprietary drivers? [05:33] if so i'd click System > Administration > Additional Drivers to see if they can be installed. otherwise, netgear should have a CD, we have a USB card that we needed to install drivers with [05:34] maybe this could help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 [05:35] card does have drivers [05:37] do you have a wifi icon near your clock at the top of your screen [05:37] bye guys [05:38] lol and he left [05:38] later bro [05:38] bye guys === devil__ is now known as Mohan_chml [08:03] Hello everyone. [08:04] I installed KDE on My gnome Maverick [08:04] I installed the KDE through https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/config-desktop/C/other-desktops.html#other-desktop-kde [08:04] this link [08:04] now I want to remove it ... [08:05] sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop [08:05] will it work? [08:05] will it be safe? [08:07] shahan, I would prefer sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop [08:07] there might be some config files that KDE apps might use [08:08] hmm [08:08] wats the difference between these two command [08:08] ? [08:09] shahan, if you want to remove the whole thing correctly http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index [08:09] or you could use this guide and leave "&& sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" from the command ---->> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome [08:09] shahan: ^ [08:10] JoeMaverickSett, think the same eh [08:10] nit-wit: i was .1 second slower on hitting the Enter key. :D [08:11] nit-wit: other than that it's the same. [08:11] JoeMaverickSett, good website [08:12] nit-wit: it is. saved me from the triple desktop environment maddness. =P [08:12] I'd not leave the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop out unless there's a good reason to do so [08:13] hobgoblin, howdy [08:13] hi there :) [08:13] hello hobgoblin :) [08:13] hi there too :) [08:14] JoeMaverickSett: why do you say to not leave the install ub-desktop in the command from aysiu? [08:15] hobgoblin, left you a dialogue message on the event [08:15] hobgoblin: hmm, i assumed that the ubuntu-desktop is already been installed. :| [08:16] nit-wit: seen it [08:17] JoeMaverickSett: it is best to leave it in - imo anyway ... also that remove list includes all kde stuff so in my case I have to reinstall any kde stuff I have - which I do [08:17] but from memory the page says that anyway :) [08:17] :D [08:20] Hola hobgoblin =] [08:21] hi Mohan_chml [08:22] How are you these days hobgoblin? I missed about 10 days as I went to my native [08:23] no real internet and a heavy cold [08:23] what is the temperature there? [08:25] 0C - but that doesn't mean much - I just feel rubbish [08:25] brb [08:41] Hello. [08:41] wb Silver_Fox_ (: [08:41] hello Silver_Fox_ [08:41] Hello Mohan_chml . [08:42] Hello ssj6akshat . [08:42] How are you both? [08:42] Silver_Fox_, Woke up early at Saturday?? :P [08:42] A bit stuck in homework loop [08:42] Silver_Fox_, I am doing great. ty [08:42] you? [08:43] ssj6akshat, is that needed for an admin?? :P [08:44] Mohan_chml, Not seen the time yet ;) [08:44] Mohan_chml, not really homework, but project work [08:44] It's not that early [08:44] 08:44 [08:44] too early if you ask me [08:44] hobgoblin, +100 :D [08:44] Mohan_chml, it is worth 20 marks each for mathematics and social science [08:45] ssj6akshat, just add marks by yourself in the school machine ;) [08:46] Mohan_chml, my school doesn't use computers for recording a student's progress.... [08:46] yet! :P [08:46] aww :| [09:35] fox is off. goodbye === ssj6akshat is now known as ssj6akshat-away [12:50] afternoon - anyone in here any good with usb dongles? I know I'm not :( [12:55] Any idea why i might be banned from #ubuntu could it be my isps proxy ? [12:57] blackest: go ask in #ubuntu-ops they'll be able to help I would think [13:25] Trying to install Ubuntu on my netbook through a USB. But keep getting "No common CD-ROM drive was detected" and the netbook don't have a CD/DVD drive, anyone got any suggestions? [13:27] did you make the usb stick with Unetbootin? [13:27] or what did you use [13:27] I used Universal-USB-Installer [13:27] found it on pendrivelinux [13:28] what and what says "No common CD-ROM drive was detected" [13:28] does your laptop support for bootin from USB? [13:29] bioterror: yes, it does. I have done it before, but no is not working anymore. [13:30] well [13:30] did you check the md5sum of .iso before creating that usb stick [13:30] Humming-Bird, check whether your USB is bootable. check whether it auto-plays when you plug it in a running machine [13:30] heya bioterror =] [13:30] hi mohi [13:31] I think you have enjoyed this saturday. saw you away the whole day :P [13:31] as away* [13:31] hahahaha [13:31] we have guests [13:31] I'm getting to the installer menu, so it's is bootable, but then it try to dectect the CD Rom drive it fails -.-, bioterror havn' [13:31] checked the md5sum [13:32] something wrong with the stick [13:32] I think you should try unetbootin, I've lots of succesfull usb installation with it [13:32] I've got [13:32] bioterror: will try that ^^, [14:25] hello.. [14:25] i've been directed here from another channel... [14:25] is anyone here available (Some seconds) [14:25] to help me step by step in solving a problem? [14:26] pumba_, i can try :) [14:26] ohhh!! thanks! [14:26] finally a volunteer [14:26] :) shoot [14:26] the problem is this! I have installed ubuntu 10.10 over my laptop... [14:26] but the wireless card is not recognized. [14:26] so i have tried to look up in google, [14:26] and found a site with the solution. [14:27] the problem is that I dont know what to do [14:27] the site is this : http://hostap.epitest.fi/ [14:27] in few words.. i have to install this "Host AP" [14:27] can you help me? [14:29] i'm not sure if you need it, what card do you use? [14:29] its an old intersil with prism 2.5 [14:29] as reported in that site [14:30] the site says that this host ap has the drivers i need [14:30] if i get the file hostapd-0.7.3.tar.gz [14:30] then what do I have to do with it to install? [14:32] I am using a windows laptop now, but I have the ubuntu one beside me... (not connected obviously) [14:32] I can transfer file from here to there, with an external usb pen [14:33] oh i see, seems like it's available through the repositories [14:33] repositories? [14:34] the problem is that i cannot connected it to the net and download anything directly :( [14:35] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/hostapd [14:35] you should download a deb from there [14:35] may i download the file [14:35] from windows here, and bring it with a usb pen to the other laptop? [14:36] yes [14:36] which file do i need to get? there are many on that page... [14:36] is your machine i386 or amd64 ? [14:36] its a pentium 4 mobile [14:37] it has some years [14:37] download this package [14:37] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hostapd/1:0.6.10-2/+build/1725774/+files/hostapd_0.6.10-2_i386.deb [14:38] got it [14:38] do i need anything else or should i transfer it there now? [14:39] transfer and then install it on your ubuntu [14:39] ok hold on a second [14:39] please dont leave [14:39] i'm here, don't worry :) [14:41] i dragged [14:41] the file to the ubuntu desktop [14:41] do I have just to double click on it, to install? [14:41] yes [14:42] it opened the ubuntu software center [14:42] there's a button.. "install" [14:42] i click over it.. okie? [14:42] yup [14:43] i think it installed... [14:43] now I should reboot? [14:43] or the wireless should already work? [14:43] no, i don't think so. but i'm not familiar with it [14:44] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353715 [14:44] this post seems very informational [14:44] seems complicate! :/ [14:45] pumba_, wireless works? [14:45] i'm trying to reboot [14:45] after installation didn't change anything [14:45] in the network icon [14:46] lets see after reboot... [14:47] no, nothing, still the same :( [14:49] maybe I need to install also that [14:49] "WPA Supplicant" thing? [14:49] how can we know, if physically, ubuntu...see the card? [14:50] unfortunately i'm not familiar with all this wireless stuff [14:50] so i'm trying to find some help from google [14:51] its strange that when i had windows installed, it worked ok [14:51] and now with ubuntu its not even recognized ( === ssj6akshat-away is now known as ssj6akshat [14:53] can you see if in the repository, there's also that wpa supplicant [14:53] application? [14:53] so that I can try to install it as well? [14:54] pumba_, seems like it is installed by default [14:56] inside the package we downloaded and installed already? [14:57] no, with ubuntu 10.10 [14:57] ah... [14:59] do you see something interesting in system>administration>network tools ? [14:59] try to see here [14:59] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb [14:59] is this another driver? [14:59] different from what we installed now? [14:59] I think i need that driver... [14:59] prism2_usb [15:00] in system administration network tools [15:00] under wireless (wlan0) [15:00] see nothing .... hardware address al zeros [15:01] I copied you that other page [15:01] because in supported devices list [15:01] i see exactly the card this laptop has: [15:01] Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated [15:01] its integrated in the monitor, but uses usb bus i guess. [15:01] ok good [15:02] do i need to install another driver? [15:02] if you saw exactly your card so i guess so [15:03] yes, its in that list [15:03] but that page is referring [15:03] to old ubuntu distros? [15:03] i think it's referring to all of them [15:05] but there's nothing to download... [15:05] try to exactly follow that man [15:05] or at least... i dont see anything... to download [15:07] can you look again [15:07] in ur repository [15:07] if you can find something [15:07] related to [15:07] linux-wlan [15:07] ? [15:07] its the name of the project... [15:07] ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/ [15:07] these should be the drivers i need [15:07] yes there is [15:07]