[00:03] <Mohan_chml> hey Vantrax_home
[00:03] <Vantrax_home> hi mohi
[00:04] <Mohan_chml> I will head back to sleep soon. Just woke up in the middle :P
[00:04] <Mohan_chml> how are you Vantrax_home ?
[00:04] <Vantrax_home> good, been very busy lately
[00:04] <Vantrax_home> and getting frustrated with the Asia-Oceania RMB lately too
[00:05] <Mohan_chml> I know that by the timings you make to the meetings . but dont worry. you will get it managed by the next meeting ;)
[00:37] <fatharrahman> yofel: hi
[00:37] <yofel> hey
[00:37] <fatharrahman> you will not believe how did I solve my bug
[00:38] <fatharrahman> or fixed it
[00:38] <UndiFineD> :)
[00:38] <fatharrahman> or something alike
[00:38] <yofel> well, fire away ^^
[00:38] <fatharrahman> I went to bed
[00:39] <yofel> . . .
[00:41] <fatharrahman> yofel: am sorry this was a relog thought it fixed !
[00:41] <fatharrahman> I was dreeming :)
[00:41] <fatharrahman> gd nifgt
[00:42] <yofel> heh, gn
[00:43] <thewrath> is bodhizazen still around?
[00:56] <johnny77> If I clean installed Ubuntu, then installed Xubuntu, is there a way to get a pure Xubuntu install?
[01:02] <UndiFineD> yes by removing all non ubuntu packages .. maybe the: System -> Administration -> Computer Janitor works .. if it is available in xubuntu
[01:02] <UndiFineD> johnny77,
[01:06] <johnny77> UndiFineD: I do not want to get rid of Xubuntu, and have a pure gnome(Ubuntu). But rather get rid of gnome and have a pure xfce.
[01:07] <UndiFineD> yes that was my intention too
[01:07] <pleia2> johnny77: you can remove the ubuntu-desktop package, you'll end up with a huge list of packages that you can autoremove after that which are related
[01:08] <UndiFineD> oh you did this pleia2 ?
[01:08] <pleia2> it'll remove a lot (probably open office too) but you can just add back the default stuff you want
[01:08] <pleia2> UndiFineD: yeah, I've done it with kubuntu-desktop and things in the past
[01:08] <johnny77> UndiFineD: sorry, I misunderstood you. when you said remove all non ubuntu packages, it sounded like you where trying to get rid of Xubuntu.
[01:09] <UndiFineD> :)
[01:09] <pleia2> (xubuntu doesn't come with open office, it comes with abiword and gnumeric instead)
[01:09] <UndiFineD> follow pleia2
[01:09] <UndiFineD> she did this
[01:09] <firewall_03> any of you guys use a netbook?
[01:09] <johnny77> me.
[01:10] <firewall_03> what you using? The netbook remix?
[01:10] <fixer007> me too
[01:10] <pleia2> I just use regular ubuntu
[01:10] <fixer007> not anymore
[01:10] <firewall_03> I really don't like it a whole lot, its alright
[01:11] <pleia2> I didn't care for it much either :\
[01:11] <fixer007> it is made fore a touchscreen
[01:11] <firewall_03> is Xubuntu pretty decent?
[01:11] <firewall_03> fixer007:  that explains a lot
[01:11] <johnny77> I really didn't like the new netbook remix that came with 10.10. I am now running Xubuntu and loving it.
[01:11] <pleia2> xubuntu is my favorite
[01:11] <fixer007> i don#t like it
[01:12] <firewall_03> why don't you like it?
[01:12] <fixer007> i like the easy stuff
[01:12] <firewall_03> like?
[01:12] <fixer007> dragging icones
[01:13] <firewall_03> what os has that?
[01:13] <fixer007> unbuntu, kubuntu
[01:13] <firewall_03> ah
[01:14] <fixer007> it works very good on a netbook
[01:14] <firewall_03> kubuntu?
[01:14] <fixer007> i only tryed ubuntu on the netbook
[01:15] <johnny77> Kubuntu was sluggish to say the least on my netbook.
[01:15] <firewall_03> is there an easy way to switch to ubuntu without doing a clean install?
[01:15] <fixer007> it need more power
[01:15] <pleia2> install the ubuntu-desktop package
[01:16] <firewall_03> sudo apt-get ?
[01:16] <pleia2> sure, or via the software center
[01:16] <firewall_03> ah
[01:16] <firewall_03> sweet
[01:16] <firewall_03> I thought I was going to have to do a clean install
[01:17] <fixer007> jou can first install the ubuntu desktop and then remove xbuntu-desktop
[01:18] <fixer007> if you like it
[01:23] <firewall_03> well I am still running netbook remix
[01:23] <firewall_03> I am going to install that now
[01:25] <firewall_03> I did a search in the software center and it didn't find it
[01:30] <firewall_03> well I am gonna try xubuntu instead
[01:35] <fixer007> can't find it ether
[01:35] <firewall_03> well sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop worked so
[01:35] <fixer007> maybee in synaptic
[01:35] <firewall_03> its runnin
[01:37] <fixer007> I have tryed xubuntu but jou need to know more about jour system
[01:37] <firewall_03> what do you mean?
[01:38] <fixer007> to get things done
[01:38] <firewall_03> I am pretty familiar with it, I just never done it like that before is all
[01:39] <fixer007> it is good to try
[01:39] <fixer007> you don't have to spend a lot
[01:43] <firewall_03> back
[01:43] <firewall_03> still looks the same
[01:45] <fixer007> you have to chance the desktop before jou loggedin
[01:45] <firewall_03> ah ok
[01:47] <firewall_03> I like this a lot better
[01:49] <fixer007> i missed mine desktop with the remix
[01:49] <firewall_03> oh you liked the remix?
[01:50] <fixer007> no i tryed it
[01:51] <fixer007> sometimes i try the other desktop for a time but ubuntu become my favorite
[01:52] <fixer007> it suprise me that everything is working out of the box
[01:54] <firewall_03> why's that
[01:57] <fixer007> you can combine it with a lot of other apps and it stays stabel
[01:57] <firewall_03> ya
[01:58] <fixer007> no digging aroud in manuals
[01:58] <firewall_03> right
[02:01] <fixer007> how is your xbuntu working
[02:07] <firewall_03> awesome
[02:11] <firewall_03> I am going to try and install conky
[02:26] <firewall_03> so far conky is workin good
[02:29] <firewall_03> so how is everyone doing tonight?
[02:38] <MrAnthrope> Great!
[02:38] <MrAnthrope> I have DDO running, I'm happy.
[02:49] <firewall_03> ddo?
[02:59] <firewall_03> whats that?
[04:18] <thewrath> hey all
[04:18] <hajour> hai thewrath
[04:38] <firewall_03> hey
[04:41] <zkriesse> Hello firewall_03
[04:55] <freebird> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask questions or not
[04:55] <Mohan_chml> !ask | freebird
[04:55] <ubot2> freebird: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[04:58] <freebird> i have beat my head against the desk for several days trying to setup openssh to 127.0.0.1:8080 everytime i try it says  it can't due to port 22 or i get that annoying warning message
[04:59] <thewrath> you sure you have openssh-server installed freebird ?
[05:00] <freebird> i did and i have removed it and reinstalled it serval times using the apt-get remove
[05:02] <freebird> i have edited the sshd.conf and the ssh.conf done everything i could think of to get a freash install after editing those files
[05:02] <thewrath> try the other iP
[05:02] <thewrath> oh wait
[05:02] <thewrath> 8080
[05:02] <thewrath> hmm not sure the top of my head
[05:02] <morphaeus08> for whatever reason whenever i click Places > [any of the shortcuts], VLC opens the folder.. how do i get it to open the shortcuts as a folder
[05:03] <freebird> yeah 8080 actually anyport will work if it will allow me to surf the web with it  with the d function
[05:05] <freebird> morphaeus08 i had this issue last week you need to open from termanal
[05:06] <morphaeus08> ok
[05:06] <freebird> i forget the command you need to type give me a min see if i can find it again
[05:06] <morphaeus08> thanks, i really appreciate it
[05:11] <freebird> morpheaus can you get where you can see any folders you can rightclick
[05:12] <morphaeus08> ya
[05:13] <freebird> ok try this
[05:13] <morphaeus08> just fixed it1
[05:13] <morphaeus08> ! awesome
[05:13] <ubot2> Factoid 'awesome' not found
[05:13] <freebird> Once in the home folder..
[05:13] <freebird> Right click any of the other folders, ie, downloads, pictures, music, etc..
[05:13] <freebird> ( Or you could right click on the home folder to do the same thing)
[05:13] <freebird> then choose "open with another application"
[05:13] <freebird> 174716
[05:13] <freebird> when the list of applications comes up to choose from..
[05:13] <freebird> choose "open folder".
[05:13] <freebird> and make sure you check off the little box, that says.. "remember for this type of file"
[05:13] <freebird> 174717
[05:13] <freebird> After that, when you open any "places".. it should open as it normally does.
[05:13] <freebird> sweet
[05:14] <freebird> !cool
[05:14] <ubot2> Factoid 'cool' not found
[05:14] <freebird> would you happen to know about openssh
[05:14] <morphaeus08> thanks for the help, you got me thinking in the right direction... no idea why i didnt get that before. should've been obvious to me
[05:14] <morphaeus08> a little, not a lot
[05:14] <freebird> lol np
[05:15] <freebird> i'm new to linux myself so i have had alot of issues  and had to figure them out this is the first time i have been to irc
[05:16] <morphaeus08> i've been using ~3 years, what do you think of it so far?
[05:16] <freebird> didn't know ubuntu had one til tonight
[05:17] <freebird> i love it :P frusterating but the flexiblity is awsome
[05:17] <morphaeus08> freenode has an ubuntu channel(s)
[05:17] <freebird> freenode?
[05:17] <morphaeus08> its an IRC server
[05:17] <morphaeus08> irc.freenode.net if i'm not mistaken
[05:18] <morphaeus08> alot of different OSS projects have channels there
[05:18] <freebird> ok cool
[05:18] <freebird> so what brought you to ubuntu 3 yr ago
[05:19] <morphaeus08> curiousity... i getting serious about programming and was learning about open source. so i decided to get a live cd and play around with it. ended up redoing my computer and dual booting ubuntu and winxp... i switched exclusively to ubuntu back in june
[05:21] <freebird> what got my attention was i'm a computer tech by trade and windows i know it inside and out and wanted a challenge and ubuntu was the answer and i have been trying to learn to program for several yrs and in windows  i wasn't easy to find answers for most of the code didn't want to work with me as i read it was linux code not w32
[05:22] <morphaeus08> what language(s)?
[05:22] <freebird> python mainly
[05:23] <morphaeus08> i like python, i prefer java for the structure/syntax but thats just preference. python is really good for scripting on ubuntu though, top notch integration
[05:24] <freebird> i have figured some out but yet to make a working app yet  always get errors then i get stuck and beat my head against the wall for a week or so then decide to delete it and start freash
[05:25] <morphaeus08> what kind of programs have you tried building
[05:26] <freebird> firewalls with encryption to 127.0.0.1 for all traffic
[05:26] <freebird> i'm probaly trying to make something way past my expertize
[05:26] <morphaeus08> sounds complex... are you utilizing objects
[05:27] <freebird> what do you mean looking at previous attempts of coding it
[05:27] <freebird> no i delete them then start over
[05:27] <fran1> I need help with meerkat my wireless is not showing up and keeps reading wireless disconnected
[05:28] <morphaeus08> @freebird, read up on OOP (object oriented programming), i bet it'd make your firewall program easier to understand/manage.
[05:28] <freebird> do you see the wireless icon by the clock click it and see if it sees your router
[05:29] <morphaeus08> @fran1 could you describe the problem a little more
[05:29] <freebird> ok i will do ty
[05:30] <fran1> i installed 10.10 and now wireless is not detecting my network but the card is blinking
[05:30] <freebird> fran1 are you on a laptop?
[05:30] <fran1> yes
[05:31] <morphaeus08> did you upgrade to 10.10 from a previous version or is it a fresh install?
[05:31] <fran1> fresh install
[05:31] <freebird> make sure your wireless is turned on  there is a switch that could have gotten turned off by accident i have done this before
[05:32] <morphaeus08> what kind of card do you have
[05:32] <fran1> it's a netgear 802.11
[05:32] <morphaeus08> does that card have proprietary drivers?
[05:33] <morphaeus08> if so i'd click System > Administration > Additional Drivers to see if they can be installed. otherwise, netgear should have a CD, we have a USB card that we needed to install drivers with
[05:34] <freebird> maybe this could help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[05:35] <fran1> card does have drivers
[05:37] <freebird> do you have a wifi icon near your clock at the top of your screen
[05:37] <morphaeus08> bye guys
[05:38] <freebird> lol and he left
[05:38] <freebird> later bro
[05:38] <freebird> bye guys
[08:03] <shahan> Hello everyone.
[08:04] <shahan> I installed KDE on My gnome Maverick
[08:04] <shahan> I installed the KDE through https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/config-desktop/C/other-desktops.html#other-desktop-kde
[08:04] <shahan> this link
[08:04] <shahan> now I want to remove it ...
[08:05] <shahan> sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[08:05] <shahan> will it work?
[08:05] <shahan> will it be safe?
[08:07] <ssj6akshat> shahan, I would prefer sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[08:07] <ssj6akshat> there might be some config files that KDE apps might use
[08:08] <shahan> hmm
[08:08] <shahan> wats the difference between these two command
[08:08] <shahan> ?
[08:09] <nit-wit> shahan, if you want to remove the whole thing correctly  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[08:09] <JoeMaverickSett> or you could use this guide and leave "&& sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" from the command ---->> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[08:09] <JoeMaverickSett> shahan: ^
[08:10] <nit-wit> JoeMaverickSett, think the same eh
[08:10] <JoeMaverickSett> nit-wit: i was .1 second slower on hitting the Enter key. :D
[08:11] <JoeMaverickSett> nit-wit: other than that it's the same.
[08:11] <nit-wit> JoeMaverickSett, good website
[08:12] <JoeMaverickSett> nit-wit: it is. saved me from the triple desktop environment maddness. =P
[08:12] <hobgoblin> I'd not leave the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop out unless there's a good reason to do so
[08:13] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, howdy
[08:13] <hobgoblin> hi there :)
[08:13] <JoeMaverickSett> hello hobgoblin :)
[08:13] <hobgoblin> hi there too :)
[08:14] <hobgoblin> JoeMaverickSett: why do you say to not leave the install ub-desktop in the command from aysiu?
[08:15] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, left you a dialogue message on the event
[08:15] <JoeMaverickSett> hobgoblin: hmm, i assumed that the ubuntu-desktop is already been installed. :|
[08:16] <hobgoblin> nit-wit: seen it
[08:17] <hobgoblin> JoeMaverickSett: it is best to leave it in - imo anyway ... also that remove list includes all kde stuff so in my case I have to reinstall any kde stuff I have - which I do
[08:17] <hobgoblin> but from memory the page says that anyway :)
[08:17] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[08:20] <Mohan_chml> Hola hobgoblin =]
[08:21] <hobgoblin> hi Mohan_chml
[08:22] <Mohan_chml> How are you these days hobgoblin? I missed about 10 days as I went to my native
[08:23] <hobgoblin> no real internet and a heavy cold
[08:23] <Mohan_chml> what is the temperature there?
[08:25] <hobgoblin> 0C - but that doesn't mean much - I just feel rubbish
[08:25] <hobgoblin> brb
[08:41] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[08:41] <Mohan_chml> wb Silver_Fox_ (:
[08:41] <ssj6akshat> hello Silver_Fox_
[08:41] <Silver_Fox_> Hello Mohan_chml .
[08:42] <Silver_Fox_> Hello ssj6akshat .
[08:42] <Silver_Fox_> How are you both?
[08:42] <Mohan_chml> Silver_Fox_, Woke up early at Saturday?? :P
[08:42] <ssj6akshat> A bit stuck in homework loop
[08:42] <Mohan_chml> Silver_Fox_, I am doing great. ty
[08:42] <Mohan_chml> you?
[08:43] <Mohan_chml> ssj6akshat, is that needed for an admin?? :P
[08:44] <Silver_Fox_> Mohan_chml,  Not seen the time yet ;)
[08:44] <ssj6akshat> Mohan_chml, not really homework, but project work
[08:44] <Silver_Fox_> It's not that early
[08:44] <Silver_Fox_> 08:44
[08:44] <hobgoblin> too early if you ask me
[08:44] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin, +100 :D
[08:44] <ssj6akshat> Mohan_chml, it is worth 20 marks each for mathematics and social science
[08:45] <Mohan_chml> ssj6akshat, just add marks by yourself in the school machine ;)
[08:46] <ssj6akshat> Mohan_chml, my school doesn't use computers for recording a student's progress....
[08:46] <ssj6akshat> yet! :P
[08:46] <Mohan_chml> aww :|
[09:35] <Silver_Fox_> fox is off.  goodbye
[12:50] <hobgoblin> afternoon - anyone in here any good with usb dongles? I know I'm not :(
[12:55] <blackest> Any idea why i might be banned from #ubuntu could it be my isps proxy ?
[12:57] <hobgoblin> blackest: go ask in #ubuntu-ops they'll be able to help I would think
[13:25] <Humming-Bird> Trying to install Ubuntu on my netbook through a USB. But keep getting "No common CD-ROM drive was detected" and the netbook don't have a CD/DVD drive, anyone got any suggestions?
[13:27] <bioterror> did you make the usb stick with Unetbootin?
[13:27] <bioterror> or what did you use
[13:27] <Humming-Bird> I used Universal-USB-Installer
[13:27] <Humming-Bird> found it on pendrivelinux
[13:28] <bioterror> what and what says  "No common CD-ROM drive was detected"
[13:28] <bioterror> does your laptop support for bootin from USB?
[13:29] <Humming-Bird> bioterror: yes, it does. I have done it before, but no is not working anymore.
[13:30] <bioterror> well
[13:30] <bioterror> did you check the md5sum of .iso before creating that usb stick
[13:30] <Mohan_chml> Humming-Bird, check whether your USB is bootable. check whether it auto-plays when you plug it in a running machine
[13:30] <Mohan_chml> heya bioterror =]
[13:30] <bioterror> hi mohi
[13:31] <Mohan_chml> I think you have enjoyed this saturday. saw you away the whole day :P
[13:31] <Mohan_chml> as away*
[13:31] <bioterror> hahahaha
[13:31] <bioterror> we have guests
[13:31] <Humming-Bird> I'm getting to the installer menu, so it's is bootable, but then it try to dectect the CD Rom drive it fails -.-, bioterror havn'
[13:31] <Humming-Bird> checked the md5sum
[13:32] <bioterror> something wrong with the stick
[13:32] <bioterror> I think you should try unetbootin, I've lots of succesfull usb installation with it
[13:32] <bioterror> I've got
[13:32] <Humming-Bird> bioterror: will try that ^^,
[14:25] <pumba_> hello..
[14:25] <pumba_> i've been directed here from another channel...
[14:25] <pumba_> is anyone here available (Some seconds)
[14:25] <pumba_> to help me step by step in solving a problem?
[14:26] <serfus> pumba_, i can try :)
[14:26] <pumba_> ohhh!! thanks!
[14:26] <pumba_> finally a volunteer
[14:26] <serfus> :) shoot
[14:26] <pumba_> the problem is this! I have installed ubuntu 10.10 over my laptop...
[14:26] <pumba_> but the wireless card is not recognized.
[14:26] <pumba_> so i have tried to look up in google,
[14:26] <pumba_> and found a site with the solution.
[14:27] <pumba_> the problem is that I dont know what to do
[14:27] <pumba_> the site is this : http://hostap.epitest.fi/
[14:27] <pumba_> in few words.. i have to install this "Host AP"
[14:27] <pumba_> can you help me?
[14:29] <serfus> i'm not sure if you need it, what card do you use?
[14:29] <pumba_> its an old intersil with prism 2.5
[14:29] <pumba_> as reported in that site
[14:30] <pumba_> the site says that this host ap has the drivers i need
[14:30] <pumba_> if i get the file hostapd-0.7.3.tar.gz
[14:30] <pumba_> then what do I have to do with it to install?
[14:32] <pumba_> I am using a windows laptop now, but I have the ubuntu one beside me... (not connected obviously)
[14:32] <pumba_> I can transfer file from here to there, with an external usb pen
[14:33] <serfus> oh i see, seems like it's available through the repositories
[14:33] <pumba_> repositories?
[14:34] <pumba_> the problem is that i cannot connected it to the net and download anything directly :(
[14:35] <serfus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/hostapd
[14:35] <serfus> you should download a deb from there
[14:35] <pumba_> may i download the file
[14:35] <pumba_> from windows here, and bring it with a usb pen to the other laptop?
[14:36] <serfus> yes
[14:36] <pumba_> which file do i need to get? there are many on that page...
[14:36] <serfus> is your machine i386 or amd64 ?
[14:36] <pumba_> its a pentium 4 mobile
[14:37] <pumba_> it has some years
[14:37] <serfus> download this package
[14:37] <serfus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hostapd/1:0.6.10-2/+build/1725774/+files/hostapd_0.6.10-2_i386.deb
[14:38] <pumba_> got it
[14:38] <pumba_> do i need anything else or should i transfer it there now?
[14:39] <serfus> transfer and then install it on your ubuntu
[14:39] <pumba_> ok hold on a second
[14:39] <pumba_> please dont leave
[14:39] <serfus> i'm here, don't worry :)
[14:41] <pumba_> i dragged
[14:41] <pumba_> the file to the ubuntu desktop
[14:41] <pumba_> do I have just to double click on it, to install?
[14:41] <serfus> yes
[14:42] <pumba_> it opened the ubuntu software center
[14:42] <pumba_> there's a button.. "install"
[14:42] <pumba_> i click over it.. okie?
[14:42] <serfus> yup
[14:43] <pumba_> i think it installed...
[14:43] <pumba_> now I should reboot?
[14:43] <pumba_> or the wireless should already work?
[14:43] <serfus> no, i don't think so. but i'm not familiar with it
[14:44] <serfus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353715
[14:44] <serfus> this post seems very informational
[14:44] <pumba_> seems complicate! :/
[14:45] <serfus> pumba_, wireless works?
[14:45] <pumba_> i'm trying to reboot
[14:45] <pumba_> after installation didn't change anything
[14:45] <pumba_> in the network icon
[14:46] <pumba_> lets see after reboot...
[14:47] <pumba_> no, nothing, still the same :(
[14:49] <pumba_> maybe I need to install also that
[14:49] <pumba_> "WPA Supplicant" thing?
[14:49] <pumba_> how can we know, if physically, ubuntu...see the card?
[14:50] <serfus> unfortunately i'm not familiar with all this wireless stuff
[14:50] <serfus> so i'm trying to find some help from google
[14:51] <pumba_> its strange that when i had windows installed, it worked ok
[14:51] <pumba_> and now with ubuntu its not even recognized (
[14:53] <pumba_> can you see if in the repository, there's also that wpa supplicant
[14:53] <pumba_> application?
[14:53] <pumba_> so that I can try to install it as well?
[14:54] <serfus> pumba_, seems like it is installed by default
[14:56] <pumba_> inside the package we downloaded and installed already?
[14:57] <serfus> no, with ubuntu 10.10
[14:57] <pumba_> ah...
[14:59] <serfus> do you see something interesting in system>administration>network tools ?
[14:59] <pumba_> try to see here
[14:59] <pumba_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb
[14:59] <pumba_> is this another driver?
[14:59] <pumba_> different from what we installed now?
[14:59] <pumba_> I think i need that driver...
[14:59] <pumba_> prism2_usb
[15:00] <pumba_> in system administration network tools
[15:00] <pumba_> under wireless (wlan0)
[15:00] <pumba_> see nothing .... hardware address al zeros
[15:01] <pumba_> I copied you that other page
[15:01] <pumba_> because in supported devices list
[15:01] <pumba_> i see exactly the card this laptop has:
[15:01] <pumba_> Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated
[15:01] <pumba_> its integrated in the monitor, but uses usb bus i guess.
[15:01] <serfus> ok good
[15:02] <pumba_> do i need to install another driver?
[15:02] <serfus> if you saw exactly your card so i guess so
[15:03] <pumba_> yes, its in that list
[15:03] <pumba_> but that page is referring
[15:03] <pumba_> to old ubuntu distros?
[15:03] <serfus> i think it's referring to all of them
[15:05] <pumba_> but there's nothing to download...
[15:05] <serfus> try to exactly follow that man
[15:05] <pumba_> or at least... i dont see anything... to download
[15:07] <pumba_> can you look again
[15:07] <pumba_> in ur repository
[15:07] <pumba_> if you can find something
[15:07] <pumba_> related to
[15:07] <pumba_> linux-wlan
[15:07] <pumba_> ?
[15:07] <pumba_> its the name of the project...
[15:07] <pumba_> ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/
[15:07] <pumba_> these should be the drivers i need
[15:07] <serfus> yes there is
[15:07] <serfus> you need to download it
[15:08] <serfus> sec
[15:08] <pumba_> can u give me the link so I can try to install it as we did before?
[15:11] <duanedesign> serfus: do you have anything under System > Preferences > Hardware Drivers ?
[15:11] <duanedesign> oops
[15:11] <duanedesign> pumba ^
[15:11] <pumba_> let me look
[15:13] <pumba_> i cant find that menu..........
[15:13] <pumba_> under system --- preferences
[15:13] <pumba_> audio...
[15:13] <pumba_> bluetooth...
[15:13] <duanedesign> might be Additional Drivers
[15:13] <Mohan_chml> pumba_, what version of Ubuntu are you currently using?
[15:13] <pumba_> network connections...
[15:13] <pumba_> you meant .. network?
[15:13] <JoeMaverickSett> System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[15:13] <pumba_> i installed 10.10
[15:13] <pumba_> oh..additional drivers
[15:14] <pumba_> no, its empty
[15:14] <duanedesign> ok
[15:14] <pumba_> i have no drivers there.
[15:14] <pumba_> at first it warns me that i have no internet connection
[15:14] <duanedesign> pumba_: can you open a Terminal and run this command: lsmod | grep hostap
[15:14] <pumba_> I think i need to install these:
[15:14] <pumba_> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11b.html#Prism2
[15:15] <pumba_> i try -- hold on
[15:17] <pumba_> i think i have the wrong keyboard layout..
[15:17] <pumba_> as I cannot make the  |
[15:17] <duanedesign> ok
[15:18] <duanedesign> pumba_: you can just do:  lsmod
[15:18] <duanedesign> pumba_: and look through the list manually
[15:19] <pumba_> i changed the keyboard layout successfully
[15:19] <pumba_> and was able to input that command..
[15:19] <duanedesign> pumba_: lsmod will print a long list to the screen. Look through it and see if  'hostap' is there
[15:19] <pumba_> i ran it...but...
[15:19] <duanedesign> ok
[15:19] <pumba_> it shows nothing
[15:19] <duanedesign> ok
[15:19] <duanedesign> try
[15:20] <duanedesign> modprobe hostap_pci
[15:21] <pumba_> it gives me error messages..
[15:21] <pumba_> starting with
[15:21] <pumba_> WARNING: Error inserting hostap (/lib... etc etc
[15:21] <pumba_> operation not permitted
[15:21] <pumba_> FATAL: Error inserting hostap_pci.....
[15:22] <pumba_> serfus, have u found the repository link for linux-wlan-ng drivers?
[15:24] <pumba_> I have found this...
[15:24] <pumba_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+search?text=linux-wlan-ng
[15:25] <pumba_> but do I have to install them all?
[15:25] <pumba_> im quite sure the card is a prism2 usb
[15:25] <pumba_> cause when windows recognized it at first
[15:25] <pumba_> said usb driver...
[15:26] <pumba_> Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated
[15:28] <pumba_> but I dont understand if i have to install this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/prism2-usb-firmware-installer
[15:28] <pumba_> or this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/linux-wlan-ng
[15:29] <pumba_> what would u suggest? :/
[15:29] <duanedesign> pumba_: the command:   lspci | grep Network
[15:29] <duanedesign> should tell you which card you have
[15:30] <pumba_> i input that command
[15:31] <pumba_> but if i press Enter
[15:31] <pumba_> makes nothing.
[15:31] <pumba_> just pass to another line in the cursor.
[15:31] <duanedesign> ok
[15:31] <pumba_> but i'm sure about the card being  Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated
[15:31] <pumba_> because in the original laptop installation driver
[15:32] <pumba_> for windows there's that driver, and it worked.
[15:33] <pumba_> i think installing
[15:33] <pumba_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/linux-wlan-ng
[15:33] <pumba_> its worth a try
[15:33] <pumba_> i try now.. lets see
[15:33] <duanedesign> if the hostap driver does not work you can try the prism2
[15:33] <pumba_> yes but whats the difference between /linux-wlan-ng package
[15:33] <duanedesign> pumba_: yeah thats it
[15:33] <pumba_> and prism2 usb firmware install?
[15:34] <pumba_> which one do i have to install? or both?
[15:34] <duanedesign> pumba_: can you run this command:  nmtool
[15:34] <duanedesign> sorry:  nm-tool
[15:35] <pumba_> oh!
[15:35] <pumba_> i see something
[15:35] <pumba_> device: wlan0
[15:35] <duanedesign> should be eth0 and wlan0  or something similar
[15:35] <pumba_> ype wired
[15:35] <pumba_> driver: prism2_usb
[15:35] <pumba_> state: disconnected
[15:35] <duanedesign> ok good
[15:35] <pumba_> default: no
[15:35] <pumba_> hw address: all zeros
[15:36] <pumba_> its positive?
[15:37] <duanedesign> run:  lsmod
[15:37] <duanedesign> and see if it is listed
[15:37] <pumba_> why the hardware address is 00:00:00:00:00:00
[15:38] <duanedesign> or better:  lsmod | grep prism2_usb
[15:38] <pumba_> no it seems not, i see a usbhid
[15:39] <duanedesign> pumba_: ok run -  modprobe prism2_usb
[15:39] <pumba_> prism2_usb     160970  0
[15:39] <pumba_> i input also modprobe prism2_usb
[15:40] <pumba_> nothing.
[15:40] <duanedesign> whare did this come from:  prism2_usb     160970  0
[15:41] <pumba_> lsmod | grep prism2_usb
[15:41] <duanedesign> ok
[15:41] <duanedesign> so it is loaded
[15:41] <pumba_> and prism2_usb is in red
[15:43] <pumba_> should I still install the driver above?
[15:43] <pumba_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+search?text=linux-wlan-ng
[15:43] <duanedesign> pumba_: can you try the command:  sudo iwconfig
[15:44] <duanedesign> anything next to wlan0 ? other then 'no wireless extension'
[15:45] <pumba_> if i input sudo iwconfig
[15:45] <pumba_> and press enter
[15:45] <pumba_> nothing happens.
[15:45] <pumba_> just passes to the next cursor line
[15:45] <pumba_> ops
[15:45] <pumba_> sorry
[15:45] <duanedesign> how about just:  iwconfig
[15:45] <pumba_> it asks for my password
[15:45] <pumba_> wait
[15:45] <duanedesign> yah
[15:45] <pumba_> i input passw
[15:45] <pumba_> it tells
[15:46] <pumba_> no wireless extensions
[15:46] <pumba_> to both 3
[15:46] <duanedesign> ok
[15:46] <pumba_> lo, eth0 and wlan0
[15:47] <duanedesign> pumba_: how about:  rfkill list
[15:48] <duanedesign> does it return all: no
[15:49] <pumba_> hmmmm
[15:49] <pumba_> it does nothing
[15:49] <pumba_> rfkill list
[15:49] <pumba_> passes to the next line.
[15:50] <duanedesign> ok
[15:51] <duanedesign> pumba_: ok how about:  lshw -C network
[15:52] <pumba_> it gives a warning
[15:52] <duanedesign> pumba_: for the wireless interface
[15:52] <duanedesign> yeah thats ok
[15:52] <pumba_> oh
[15:52] <pumba_> now it shows something
[15:53] <duanedesign> for the wireless interface does it say -network DISABLED
[15:53] <pumba_> but all seems related to LAN not wireless
[15:53] <pumba_> and yes
[15:53] <duanedesign> usually the top entry is the ethernet
[15:53] <pumba_> it says
[15:53] <pumba_> *-network DISABLED
[15:53] <pumba_> for wireless
[15:54] <pumba_> locgical name: wlan0
[15:54] <pumba_> physical id: 1
[15:54] <thewrath> he duanedesign
[15:55] <duanedesign> hello thewrath
[15:55] <duanedesign> pumba_: if you click on the network manager icon in the top panel. I think it is a right-click you can check a box next to 'Enable Wireless'
[15:59] <pumba_> back
[15:59] <pumba_> sorry i went a second downstairs
[15:59] <pumba_> top panel?
[16:00] <pumba_> you mean where the battery icon
[16:00] <pumba_> and clock are?
[16:00] <pumba_> yes
[16:00] <pumba_> there's the wireless icon
[16:01] <pumba_> with a big red ! over it
[16:01] <pumba_> and if i right click on it
[16:01] <pumba_> enable network functions
[16:01] <pumba_> is already checked
[16:01] <duanedesign> ok
[16:02] <fatharrahman> Hiduanedesign
[16:02] <duanedesign> pumba_: is there a hardware switch
[16:02] <pumba_> the wireless is not disabled cause the lid is blue
[16:02] <pumba_> and on
[16:02] <duanedesign> ok
[16:04] <marcoy> Hello I'm having problems conecting view ing my hdmi to see movies on flatscreen and the audio output jack doesn't seem to work either
[16:05] <pumba_> duandesign: we give up?
[16:10] <duanedesign> pumba_: i am running out of ideas
[16:10] <pumba_> do you think i shouldnt even
[16:10] <pumba_> try those drivers I linked?
[16:11] <pumba_>  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/prism2-usb-firmware-installer
[16:11] <pumba_> what does that do?
[16:11] <pumba_>  a firmware update?
[16:11] <pumba_> maybe it will wake it up........
[16:11] <duanedesign> pumba_: i saw a thread on the forum that said a firmware update helped
[16:12] <pumba_> that package will make a firmware update?
[16:20] <duanedesign> pumba_: i do not know
[16:22] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[16:23] <nlsthzn> hey
[16:23] <kristian-aalborg> quick question - if I compile a custom kernel, my dmesg will (hopefully) change for the better, right?
[16:24] <pumba_> tried also that
[16:24] <pumba_> firmware update :(
[16:24] <pumba_> it did not help.........
[16:24] <pumba_> i will reinstall windows :(
[16:24] <bioterror> nooo
[16:25] <kristian-aalborg> hi bioterror
[16:25] <kristian-aalborg> pumba_: what's the problem?
[16:26] <pumba_> massive wireless problem
[16:26] <pumba_> and card which is not recognized by ubuntu
[16:26]  * nlsthzn hates when hardware doesn't work under Linux :(
[16:26] <pumba_> i wanted to get to know ubuntu as everyone was talking better
[16:26] <pumba_> but.. im already stuck
[16:28] <kristian-aalborg> pumba_: which chip?
[16:28] <kristian-aalborg> and which version of ubuntu+
[16:28] <kristian-aalborg> ?
[16:28] <pumba_> i installed ubuntu 10.10 from the DVD
[16:28] <pumba_> wireless is
[16:28] <pumba_> Z-Com 725/726 Prism2.5 USB/USB Integrated
[16:28] <pumba_> integrated in the TFT
[16:29] <pumba_> wireless is on, both lid and also enabled in BIOS
[16:29] <pumba_> but ubuntu cannot even find its hardware address.
[16:29] <pumba_> see the prism2_usb driver
[16:30] <pumba_> but hardware address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
[16:30] <kristian-aalborg> hmm
[16:30] <kristian-aalborg> pumba_: sudo lshw -C network
[16:30] <kristian-aalborg> what's the output?
[16:30] <pumba_> we did that before .. but i try again
[16:31] <kristian-aalborg> also, if you can find the exact name of the chip
[16:31] <pumba_> *-network DISABLED
[16:31] <pumba_> physical id:2
[16:31] <kristian-aalborg> it's in the format 1233:b221 or something like that... that is a code for the vendor + chip
[16:31] <pumba_> logical name: wlan0
[16:31] <pumba_> capabilities: ethernet physical
[16:32] <pumba_> configuration: broadcast=yes multicast=yes.
[16:32] <pumba_> I can onyl find that code you mention in windows
[16:32] <pumba_> but I already formatted the drive
[16:32] <pumba_> to install ubuntu :(((
[16:33] <pumba_> we cannot see that address in ubuntu?
[16:33] <pumba_> by installing some tools?
[16:33] <kristian-aalborg> sudo lspci -n
[16:33] <kristian-aalborg> try that
[16:34] <pumba_> hmmmm
[16:34] <pumba_> there are many
[16:34] <pumba_> how can I know which one is the wireless card?
[16:34] <kristian-aalborg> please throw the entire output of that on pastebin.com and then post the link here
[16:35] <pumba_> ok i try... with an external usb drive
[16:35] <pumba_> as i have no internet there
[16:36] <kristian-aalborg> that would work
[16:36] <pumba_> yes i saved the doc
[16:36] <pumba_> i'm importing here
[16:36] <nlsthzn> !paste
[16:36] <ubot2> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[16:37] <pumba_> http://pastebin.com/M0AVL8yY
[16:47] <pumba_> maybe that laptop is just too old for ubuntu
[16:47] <nlsthzn> pumba_: older used to mean more likely to work (in Linux)
[16:48] <pumba_> its strange that win recognizes its wifi with no problems and ubuntu instead no :/
[16:49] <nlsthzn> pumba_: have you tried the ubuntu forums yet?
[16:49] <pumba_> someone else suggested me to try..
[16:49] <pumba_> but at this point,
[16:49] <pumba_> i dont know anymore..
[16:52] <nlsthzn> pumba_: if you have some time, check out the forums... at the very least start a thread if there is no answers... if not then best of luck on what ever other option you choose
[16:52] <pumba_> yes... i will keep this option
[16:54] <pumba_> its a pity anyway, because ubuntu from the few i can see...
[16:54] <pumba_> seems good
[16:54] <kristian-aalborg> pumba_: it is good
[16:55] <kristian-aalborg> what is the name of the computer? the full name, please
[16:55] <nlsthzn> for a temporary measure you could just use ethernet... if wifi isn't super important.... then at least you can explore it some more and still be online
[16:55] <pumba_> its a fujutsu siemens C1020
[16:57] <pumba_> i have only wireless here
[16:57] <pumba_> as the router is far away
[16:57] <pumba_> and i cannot connect an ethernet cable
[16:58] <pumba_> maybe i will buy one of those... pcmcia wifi card...
[16:58] <pumba_> or a usb wifi card
[16:58] <nlsthzn> pumba_: if u do decide to do that just make sure it is supported ;)
[16:59] <pumba_> auch...
[17:00] <pumba_> or maybe i will reinstall windows
[17:00] <pumba_> and then reinstall ubuntu
[17:00] <pumba_> in another partition
[17:00] <pumba_> so i can use both and make tests
[17:00] <pumba_> and see hardware addresses easily...
[17:00] <nlsthzn> sure dual boot is a good idea :)... and yes, windows first, ubuntu second and you will be fine :D
[17:01] <pumba_> damn me ... i was so happy this morning
[17:01] <pumba_> when i formatted win
[17:01] <pumba_> to install ubuntu :/
[17:01] <pumba_> and when it asked.. if to use the whole disk
[17:01] <pumba_> or another partition
[17:01] <pumba_> i chosed the whole disk
[17:01] <pumba_> without eshitation! :/
[17:02] <pumba_> now i regret
[17:03] <pumba_> a friend of mine told me to throw that laptop in the trash
[17:03] <pumba_> and buy one with win7
[17:04] <nlsthzn> nah
[17:05] <nlsthzn> once you get wifi to work you will have a laptop faster than a new one with 7 installed and a load of spare cash
[17:05] <pumba_> i have no money anyway
[17:05] <pumba_> for a new one
[17:05] <kristian-aalborg> pumba_: the first few weeks on linux can be bewildering, but you'll end up liking it I hope
[17:06] <pumba_> we will see..how this goes...
[17:07] <nlsthzn> pumba_: I think it would have been wiser to have run ubuntu in a virtual environemnt or a dual boot initially, jumping striaght to ubuntu from windows is sledom easy
[17:07] <pumba_> i know but...
[17:07] <pumba_> that windows after years of use
[17:07] <pumba_> had become very very slow
[17:07] <pumba_> so all I wanted was to format
[17:07] <pumba_> in any case
[17:08] <pumba_> i saved all my precious things
[17:08] <pumba_> and decided to give ubuntu a try
[17:08] <pumba_> for ordinary use i have this desktop im using
[17:08] <nlsthzn> pumba_: try dual boot..., best of both worlds...
[17:09] <nlsthzn> its free :D
[17:09] <pumba_> another problem is the hard drive...
[17:09] <pumba_> i think its 50 GB...
[17:10] <nlsthzn> give ubuntu 8 to 10 GB (you could get away with less) it doesn't need much...
[17:10] <pumba_> maybe i can also give 15 ---
[17:10] <pumba_> and leave the rest for windows
[17:12] <nlsthzn> if you set up your partitions correctly you can have both windows and linux sharing any documents, music and video files, then ubuntu will need much less to operate...
[17:23] <G_Code> Hello peepill
[17:24] <G_Code> Im like really raw and need some help with ubuntu 10.10 repository
[17:24] <G_Code> I have a repo on a usb drive but It wont work anymore
[17:25] <G_Code> I think my sources.list is screwed up
[17:26] <G_Code> hello...
[17:27] <nlsthzn> G_Code: All the knowledgable people seem busy, just us noobs lurking it seems
[17:27]  * nlsthzn continues to lurk
[17:28] <G_Code> any idea how to regenerate a sources.list file?
[17:29] <nlsthzn> no :(
[17:31] <kristian-aalborg> pumba_: sorry, but I can't seem to find a solution
[17:31] <kristian-aalborg> would anybody know a way to have ubuntu log the boot time, so that I get "booted in 19 mins 32 secs" for instance
[17:31] <nlsthzn> G_Code: so the repo is on USB and you just need the sources list to point to the USB?
[17:32] <mis> hey, i have written an tool(cpp) which im using it is threaded etc. but it cant use 100% of my cpu (like the ubuntu scheluder wont let it use) from what i can see when this tool have focun on it it works like 30% faster than when it does not, maybe someone know what can cause it and how to fix it?
[17:32] <G_Code> correct nisthzn
[17:33] <nlsthzn> G_Code: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1045375.html here they show how you can edit your sources list manually so you can add the usb yourself
[17:35] <G_Code> gotcha and thanks nisthzn
[17:35] <nlsthzn> G_Code: no prob, hope it helps
[17:36] <G_Code> If not Its ok cos I am going to an ubuntu meeting tomorrow :)
[17:40] <nlsthzn> Cool stuff :)
[17:53] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[17:55] <Mohan_chml> wb Silver_Fox_ =]
[17:55] <nlsthzn> Greetings Silver_Fox_
[17:56] <Silver_Fox_> Hello Mohan_chml  and nlsthzn
[18:11] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye.
[18:20] <kristian-aalborg> would anybody know of a paste you can paste your dmesg and have it analyzed automatically?
[18:22] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, http://www.codepad.eu/
[18:22] <nlsthzn> kristian-aalborg: ubuntuforums.org (semi-automatic) :p
[18:22] <kristian-aalborg> I'm aware of the forums ;)
[18:23] <nit-wit> I would agree with the forum this channel is a bit slow at the moment
[18:23] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, whats the problem whats going on?
[18:24] <kristian-aalborg> http://pastebin.com/SsyQ7bp9
[18:25] <kristian-aalborg> nit-wit: not really "problems" per se, but I'm trying to optimize this box
[18:26] <kristian-aalborg> and as I'm about to build a custum kernel, I'm thinking that dmesg could guide me
[18:28] <kristian-aalborg> I get some weird "hangups" though
[18:28] <kristian-aalborg> I start typing a command, press TAB to complete it - and then I have to press CRTL-C to get back to working order
[18:29] <kristian-aalborg> I'd say that "something" is eating my resources when this happens
[18:29] <kristian-aalborg> nit-wit: feel free to comment on my dmesg :)
[18:31] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, never been a log reader whats going on whats not working
[18:32] <kristian-aalborg> nothing is malfunctioning - I'd just like to see how lean I can get things
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[21:03] <zkriesse> fatharrahman: Can you please stop spamming the bot?
[21:05] <fatharrahman> what is that doing for you zkriesse ? can you answer me as this is a ch for asking
[21:07] <zkriesse> fatharrahman: Well what are you trying to ask?
[21:07] <zkriesse> !ask | fatharrahman
[21:07] <ubot2> fatharrahman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[21:07] <fatharrahman> ubot2 how do people force you to talk?
[21:07] <ubot2> fatharrahman: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:09] <zkriesse> fatharrahman: use !
[21:09] <zkriesse> like !ask
[21:09] <fatharrahman> is that you zkriesse who answer under ubot2 pleases dont ask to ask?
[21:10] <fatharrahman> yes
[21:10] <yofel> !me | fatharrahman
[21:10] <ubot2> fatharrahman: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-beginners's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[21:10] <fatharrahman> oh yofel you r here !
[21:10] <yofel> fatharrahman: read the usage info, scroll down to 'Using'
[21:11] <yofel> fatharrahman: I'm in many places :P
[21:12] <fatharrahman> I left you there I tried suprise you by using the ubot while pretend to believe you he is a human haha but you   killed it:(
[21:12] <zkriesse> fatharrahman: ah it's called ubot2 kinda hard to think it's real
[21:13] <fatharrahman> I was thinking he is a man till yofel told me yesterday then he made it a joke zkriesse
[21:14] <zkriesse> lolz
[21:19] <fatharrahman> is lubuntu not supported by canonical ?
[21:21] <fatharrahman> udienz : downloading 10.04 to test
[21:21] <yofel> fatharrahman: afaik it's not an official derivative yet, but should be soon
[21:22] <yofel> (afaik = as far as I know)
[21:22] <fatharrahman> who develop it yofel and why people don't like it?
[21:23] <fatharrahman> is this a german
[21:23] <fatharrahman> afaik
[21:26] <yofel> lubuntu? I don't know who develops it, and I don't think that people don't like it, it's just quite new (compared to the other ubuntu versions)
[21:28] <nit-wit> yofel, lubuntu is ubuntu with the lxde desktop?
[21:28] <yofel> right
[21:28] <nit-wit> not sure
[21:29] <nit-wit> yofel, lxde has some limitations but a option with low ram
[21:30] <nit-wit> not in full released development either, lxde that is
[21:30] <yofel> I know, it's probably better for very old systems than xfce, haven't tried it in quite a while though
[21:31] <nit-wit> yofel, any of theses three desktops can be installed and run from just palin ubuntu you know the login choice right
[21:31] <nit-wit> plain
[21:32] <fatharrahman> which is lighter lubuntu or xubuntu?
[21:32] <nit-wit> fatharrahman, I would choose lubuntu but there are variables I suspect
[21:33] <nit-wit> I liks lxde better the xfce I have used both extensively
[21:33] <nit-wit> goota go
[21:34] <fatharrahman> what is the most light and small size to download disyro in linux
[21:35] <fatharrahman> redhat? fedora? mint? lubuntu? debian?
[21:36] <paultag> fatharrahman: do you not like Germans?
[21:36] <yofel> dunno, but debian is certainly not small to download, except the minimal.iso, but ubuntu has that too.
[21:38] <fatharrahman> I will visit Germany to say how ar yo yofel one day and gotta hing about a nice present paultag
[21:39] <paultag> jaja
[21:39] <paultag> ok, well I'm off. Tschuss!
[21:41] <fatharrahman> paultag: what s distro that is light and small size iso to download now to test beside Ubuntu?
[21:41] <yofel> bis denn ^^
[21:41] <fatharrahman> afaik paultag
[21:41] <fatharrahman> :)
[21:43] <fatharrahman> yofel:mir helfen, eine andere Distribution testen
[21:44] <yofel> I can't really talk much there, debian is closest to ubuntu, but not small, fedora would be good to test, I heard arch linux should be good too, mint is an ubuntu modification
[21:44] <fatharrahman> garacias
[21:45] <fatharrahman> gracias
[21:45] <yofel> by the way, where are you from?
[21:45] <fatharrahman> Vielen Dank
[21:45] <fatharrahman> Sudan
[21:46] <yofel> ah, kein Problem ;)
[21:46] <fatharrahman> am from Sudan in africa
[22:00] <pumba> hey kristian
[22:00] <pumba> are you still online?
[22:02] <pumba> duandesign
[22:02] <pumba> are you still here?
[22:41] <zachariah> Can i get some help?
[22:41] <zachariah> Again, I have a hp Deskjet 3050 and am running ubuntu 10.10. Hplip picks it up, but under printers it says that it needs a filter. I try to print a test page, it says that it has printed, but it has not. What can I do to fix it?
[22:42] <zachariah> I am trying to get it to setup. Another thing is, under hplip, it shows the ink lvls, but under printers and the ink lvls, is where it tells me i need a filter
[22:43] <hajour> zachariah, it maybe takes some time til there come someone.much are in meeting.in about a half hour i think they are ready
[22:43] <zachariah> ok
[22:43] <hajour> i dont know something about it
[22:43] <zachariah> So i need to be back in a half an hour
[22:43] <hajour> yes :)
[22:43] <zachariah> well, thanks for listening
[22:43] <hajour> your welcome zachariah
[22:43] <hajour> :)
[22:44] <zachariah> I have a few probs with 10.10 and sometimes I wish i had kept 10.04 lts
[22:44] <zachariah> sound and printing have the worst of the two, but overall it is faster I think
[22:45] <zachariah> Another think, how can I delete old grub entries. I am used to windows and mac where all I do is point and click
[22:45] <zachariah> When I boot up, it shows a lot of different things from upgrades and my windows one
[22:45] <hajour> i also had windows first
[22:46] <zachariah> I really like ubuntu, but I wish more windows apps were supported and that more was available for it
[22:46] <hajour> now i got ubuntu 10.10 on my eeepc
[22:47] <hajour> i like ubuntu to
[22:47] <zachariah> Wel, guess i will c ya in 30 min
[22:48] <hajour> ok til later zachariah :)
[23:10] <fatharrahman> hello udienz u r back
[23:13] <fatharrahman> why there are some of you have a yellow light before their names and who is chanserv?
[23:23] <hajour> the yellow light is for the one who are mentors i think
[23:24] <udienz> fatharrahman: hi, mentors.. maybe
[23:24] <udienz> but i'm not sure