[01:58] <tonyyarusso> da snows have moved into southwestern Minnesota - here it comes!
[02:02] <mr_steve> yay
[02:04]  * tonyyarusso reads weather applet
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> Rest of tonight:  New snow accumulation of 7 to 8 inches.
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> Saturday:  Snow accumulation of 6 to 8 inches.
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> Works for me!
[02:06]  * sparklehistory thinks tonyyarusso might be a bit excited 
[02:09] <mr_steve> I'm not really terribly thrilled about the prospect of 16" of snow, myself...
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Then move to Kansas with all the other bores and weaklings!
[02:11] <mr_steve> haha believe me, I've considered it
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> Dude, the last NAM/WRF model run upgraded the accumulation totals for the metro into the highest region \o/
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> This one claims 18-20" for downtown.
[05:38]  * tonyyarusso hopes it's true
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> "One model is producing 1.5 to 2.25 inches of precipitation in an area covering the Twin Cities and western Wisconsin. Given the expected snow/water ratios of 13-17 to 1, that model gives snowfall totals of 19.5 to, ug, 38.5 inches, with the highest amounts from Hasting, Red Wing and Lake City, up through Prescott, River Falls and Eau Claire." - this just in from Kenny
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> 38.5" would be massively LOL.  Highly unlikely as well, but hey.
[06:01] <sparklehistory> Um, I don't think I'm cool with snow that's more than half my height :P
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> Me neither.  It should be DOUBLE my height!
[06:03] <sparklehistory> 11 feet of snow seems a bit excessive....
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> nah
[06:18] <mr_steve> got nearly an inch here already, it's gonna be a bastard to shovel out tomorrow
[06:35] <Takyoji> and it's not a Minnesota winter until you slide into a ditch
[06:35] <Takyoji> which I just returned from doing. xP
[06:38] <mr_steve> I almost miss my Lumina van, it was way too much fun in the snow
[06:38] <mr_steve> The slightest attempt to brake resulted in a 360-degree spin about 1 time out of ten
[06:39] <mr_steve> it had serious ABS issues
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: Congrats on being one of the first.
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> ABS?  We don't need none o' that newfangled technology!
[06:42]  * tonyyarusso drives a car without airbags, much less ABS
[06:43] <mr_steve> tonyyarusso: damn right!
[06:43] <mr_steve> I pulled the ABS fuse from that van when it developed the habit of releasing my brakes while attempting a normal stop downhill
[06:44] <mr_steve> Now I do it pre-emptively with any GM vehicle
[06:44] <Takyoji> Yea, the truck I was in had neither ABS nor airbags. :P
[06:46] <mr_steve> I've never actually experienced braking with ABS under any condition where it was called for, just plenty where it wasn't. I learned from the beginning to control my own braking
[06:47] <mr_steve> And I mostly hate airbags, the owner's manual for my mom's truck actually recommends holding the wheel at 8 & 4 to prevent injuries from the airbags
[06:47] <mr_steve> Who the heck is gonna drive with the bottom half of the wheel?
[06:49] <mr_steve> of course nowdays I just ride the bus, so I let the angry man/woman in the striped shirt worry about the intricacies of winter driving :)
[06:51] <Takyoji> Also, anyone seen a system with Ubuntu not mounting flash drives at all; nor even powering it?
[06:52] <mr_steve> Takyoji: I think I have run in to something like that before
[06:53] <mr_steve> I just can't quite remember what the deal was
[06:53] <Takyoji> Because I have a friend with that issue
[06:53] <Takyoji> Running Ubuntu 10.10
[06:54] <Takyoji> And when you check dmesg, you can tell it notices something being connected via USB
[06:55] <mr_steve> Is it specific to flash drives, or all USB devices? One flash drive, or all flash drives?
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: I had that, specific to a particular port on one machine.
[06:58] <Takyoji> It's with all flash drives.
[06:58] <Takyoji> When you plug in any flash drive, the flash drive's activity light doesn't even illuminate at all
[06:59] <mr_steve> And he's tried more than one port?
[06:59] <mr_steve> oooh and does the device show up in lsusb -v while it's connected?
[07:00] <Takyoji> There's only 2 ports, neither worked
[07:00] <Takyoji> I'll have to ask them, next opportunity I get (I checked it in person tonight about an hour ago)
[07:01] <mr_steve> If they've tried other devices, like a USB mouse, and it works, than I'd be thinking something screwed up with the mass storage driver, but I dunno
[07:04] <Takyoji> Also, managed to get another laptop with an Ubuntu installation tonight; woo
[07:06] <mr_steve> Sweet. I'm still trying to get the fresh 10.10 install on this laptop tweaked just right
[07:06] <Takyoji> only thing I noticed is that the touchpad is unresponsive after returning from a suspend, I believe.
[07:06] <mr_steve> odd
[07:06] <Takyoji> Basically it's my friend and their family.
[07:07] <Takyoji> So far I have her laptop, her sister's, and now her stepfather's. And they all seem to use it by choice
[07:07] <Takyoji> All dual-boot XP and Ubuntu
[07:08] <mr_steve> Nice. I put my mom on Ubuntu a couple years ago now after the Nth time her XP install got hosed by a virus
[07:08] <mr_steve> She's been happily using it ever since
[07:08] <Takyoji> It would be nice if I could get something for a ink meter for the printer; and I've tried Inkblot to no avail.
[07:09] <Takyoji> For a Canon i960
[07:09] <mr_steve> Ah yeah, I only know about HP printers on linux
[07:09] <Takyoji> And for choosing the driver, I actually have to choose a different printer (same brand) that has similar properties.
[07:09] <Takyoji> I really need to install a CRM for keeping record of what hardware everyone has
[07:10] <Takyoji> or write one
[07:11] <Takyoji> I'd also die to learn things like reverse engineering drivers (which I presume is probably like 5x the difficulty of writing one, xP)
[07:11] <Takyoji> I wonder when the open source Broadcom drivers will be shipped with Ubuntu.. next release perhaps?
[07:12] <mr_steve> Well, for something like getting status info from a USB printer, it might not be too terribly difficult... provided you can get your hands on a USB protocol analyzer
[07:12] <mr_steve> I'm still holding my breath for decent RTL8319 wireless drivers
[07:12] <Takyoji> and it's so nice having a spare USB wireless adapter
[07:13] <Takyoji> otherwise I would have had to go into the basement and plug in the laptop via Ethernet to update it, and to get the proprietary drivers
[07:13] <mr_steve> Yep, I love having a spare USB dongle
[07:13] <Takyoji> "USB protocol analyzer"; Wireshark has USB support, yus?
[07:13] <mr_steve> I dunno. I think you need some hardware
[07:14] <mr_steve> There's a tutorial floating around, from ladyada I think, demonstrating how to reverse enginner the Kinect's USB protocol
[07:15] <Takyoji> I guess I just had a random idea..
[07:15] <Takyoji> I could perhaps have a closed-gate XMPP server, or perhaps IRC server, for having a way for clients to easily contact me in realtime rather than email
[07:16] <Takyoji> Yea, I think I can do USB captures in Wireshark
[07:16] <Takyoji> usbmon1 and usbmon2 as sources
[07:16] <mr_steve> oh yeah, I think I was making it more complicated than it needs to be
[07:16] <Takyoji> Heh, I can tell my mouse is on usbmon2
[07:17] <mr_steve> if the device is *supposed* to be communicating with the computer, should be no problem to monitor the communication
[07:17] <mr_steve> The Kinect example needed hardware, because it was communication between the Kinect and an Xbox that needed to be monitored
[07:18] <Takyoji> ahh; since the Xbox was the only thing that natively supported the hardware
[07:18] <Takyoji> to be able to see natural communication
[07:18] <mr_steve> Right
[07:19] <mr_steve> Though for something like a USB printer, I imagine you'd have to find a way to capture the USB traffic within Windows, while its native driver was querying the ink levels or whatever
[07:19] <Takyoji> Regardless, I'm curious of what protocol over USB that printers use.
[07:19] <Takyoji> yea
[07:24] <mr_steve> heh I'm blabbing away on IRC to avoid getting back to my coding. I'm at a point where I have to use a gtk.TreeView
[07:24] <mr_steve> I hate gtk.TreeView
[07:26] <Takyoji> and I still have ever yet to decide between GTK, Qt, wxWidgets, qooxdoo, and so on. :P
[07:27] <Takyoji> But yes, trees are rather annoying.
[07:27] <mr_steve> so far all the PyGTK code I've ever written around treeviews and liststores has just been ugly. Treestores have been downright Cthulic
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> speaking of python......
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> A/B = 13.0041714961
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> A//B = 13.0
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> A%B = 0.123186733333
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> WHY?
[07:31] <Takyoji> And I thought PHP had more hatred. :P
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> I like the language - I don't like when I don't understand what I'm doing.
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> Shouldn't A%B = 0.0041714961?
[07:31] <mr_steve> I've got no idea there
[07:32] <mr_steve> that is pretty odd
[07:32] <Takyoji> I got a kick out of this when I saw it on the tele http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEQCMPLatwA
[07:33] <Takyoji> Also, any consideration for also doing a little OpenNIC advocacy as well with our endeavours? :P
[08:16]  * Takyoji stabs at the dead discussion with a pitchfork
[20:19] <tonyyarusso> Well, mr_steve will be pleased to hear that the forecast for accumulation in the metro came back down a bit, shifting the maximum a little to the southeast.
[21:13] <mr_steve> well that's good
[21:14] <mr_steve> I've been shoveling a path through 3 inches of snow every couple hours, and the smaller cars on my street are beginning to disappear
[21:27] <mr_steve> ah it got worse
[21:27] <mr_steve> And I just a dude skiing...
[21:49] <tonyyarusso> [fill in: verb]
[21:57] <mr_steve> heh I accidentally a word
[21:57] <mr_steve> I saw a dude skiing
[23:05] <Takyoji> So apparently my mother was originally intending on having a get together at our house today with relatives (planned like weeks in advance) and some folks in the country are apparently without power and transit, thus we figured we'd just have folks in-town come instead; but even then, nobody is still able to get out. xP
[23:05] <Takyoji> Apparently one group tried driving out of their driveway and got stuck right in the middle of the road. xP
[23:06] <Takyoji> Thus we may even walk over there (perhaps devise some form of snowshoes) and dig them out