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apacheloggermy kdm is the broken \o/00:02
apacheloggerok00:04
apacheloggereither my upgrade really went to shit or natty on armel is in a bit of a dead state00:04
apacheloggerdoesnt even get a stack -.-00:05
apacheloggeroh well00:05
apacheloggerkernel panic00:06
JontheEchidnalol @ bug 60924700:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 609247 in qapt (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qapt" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60924700:12
apacheloggerhm00:15
apacheloggerehm00:15
apacheloggeruh00:15
apacheloggerbug 68910900:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 689109 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "Cannot be installed on Natty" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68910900:15
* apachelogger considers libpackagekit-qt-14 -> libpackagekit-qt14 at least as disobeyment of the policy00:16
apacheloggerIIRC the policies goes like 'if appending the soversion to the name would confuze the people, make it dashed'00:16
apacheloggernow clearly having it say -qt14 is confusing00:16
* JontheEchidna is worried by the lack of attention to bug 680328 too00:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 680328 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "Many postinst scripts fail using either AptDaemon, PackageKit, or QApt" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68032800:18
apacheloggercool00:21
apacheloggerbug 68911300:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 689113 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Failure when upgrading the system (broken package)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68911300:21
apacheloggerhe recons that it is shitty that the messages are french00:21
apacheloggeryet he does no bother to translate them00:22
apachelogger<300:22
apachelogger^ one more reason why cli apps should not be translated anyway00:22
apachelogger...00:22
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* apachelogger loves how debhelper drags in man-db and thus causes a stupid database building00:44
apacheloggerthat takes *ages*00:44
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apacheloggerCMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:98 (MESSAGE):00:48
apachelogger  ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in00:48
apacheloggerthat is a new ne00:48
apachelogger*one00:48
apacheloggerI lov eit00:48
apacheloggermakes me wanna thorw up00:48
apacheloggeraha!00:52
* apachelogger is being armed again00:52
apacheloggerRiddell, ScottK: I think kdebase-workspace on armel is utterly broken ... getting segfaults on the mobile and in a qemu pbuilder00:53
apacheloggeror maybe libs in general or something00:53
apacheloggeroh, more like libs00:53
apacheloggerkde4-config also segfaults00:53
Riddellug00:54
apacheloggeroh00:55
apacheloggernvm00:55
apacheloggerseems I ran a maverick base tgz as natty00:55
apacheloggerthat is bound to fail00:55
* apachelogger tries again00:55
ari-tczewapachelogger, Riddell: could you (1 person from you) take a look on clementine review tomorrow? It's not updated yet. I'm ordering sponsor for future. (:01:03
* apachelogger will not have much time tomorrow01:04
* apachelogger wonders how ccache always ends up in pbuilder's PATH01:05
apacheloggerRiddell: ok, it was just me being stupid, not armel being broken01:09
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_Groo_hi/2 all05:57
_Groo_can anyone confirm that k3b is broken with kde 4.6 beta 2? 05:57
_Groo_nvm, found apachelogger patch for it...06:06
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apachelogger!find X11/SM/SMlib.h12:26
ubottuFile X11/SM/SMlib.h found in libsm-dev12:26
apacheloggerScottK, mgraesslin: I think for 11.04 we should have a separate package kde-window-manager-gles12:30
apacheloggerthat way one can still use kde-window-manager on armel12:31
* mgraesslin agrees12:31
Riddellapachelogger: what would go into it?12:31
apacheloggermgraesslin: building right now12:31
apacheloggerRiddell: mgraesslin's opengles enabled kwin12:31
mgraesslinand please package it also for desktop12:31
apacheloggermgraesslin: why that?12:32
Riddellit'll get packaged everywhere, we don't discriminate in our packages generally12:32
mgraesslinapachelogger: because it's better and the ES backend will on long term become the default one12:32
apacheloggerI see12:32
mgraesslinWayland requires ES, so we *need* it12:32
* apachelogger loves wayland already12:33
apacheloggerwell then12:33
* apachelogger changes the architecture from armel to any12:33
mgraesslinI want to tune the CMakeLists.txt to built both kwin-desktop and kwin-mobile12:33
apacheloggermgraesslin: CMakeFiles/kworkspace.dir/kworkspace.o: In function `~KRequestShutdownHelper':12:35
apachelogger/tmp/buildd/kwin-gles/libs/kworkspace/kworkspace.cpp:134: undefined reference to `SmcCloseConnection'12:35
mgraesslinerm12:36
apacheloggerlibs&m is installed though12:36
mgraesslinapachelogger: best you wait till workspace is migrated to git - I will then use a complete clone of workspace12:36
apacheloggerawww12:37
apacheloggermgraesslin: but I wanted to see if maybe kwin works, even though plasma-mobile refuses too :12:37
apacheloggerS12:37
mgraesslinstrip the patches and apply them to normal workspace12:37
mgraesslinall commits in the scratch repo are for GLES12:37
apacheloggeroh noes, that sounds like work ^^12:39
apacheloggercc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-fno-strict-volatile-bitfields"12:40
apacheloggerfancy12:40
apachelogger<3 gcc + qt12:40
mgraesslinjust use git format-patch to extract all commits12:40
apacheloggerk, well, later12:41
apacheloggergotta run o/12:41
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ari-tczewRiddell: could you review clementine? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=877813:07
Riddellari-tczew: ok13:11
ari-tczewnice!13:12
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pgquileswhat will be the default browser in 11.04? rekonq again?15:18
Riddellthat's the plan yes15:18
Riddellwith qtwebkit 2.115:18
pgquilesok15:18
aakshaywhere to look for  tarball for kdetoys maverick upstream 4.5.85?15:55
aakshayplease help15:55
Riddellaakshay: err you already packaged that15:57
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdetoys/4:4.5.85-0ubuntu115:57
aakshayRiddell: hi.. i packaged for natty 4.5.85.. 15:57
tsimpsonthe tarball would be the same for maverick15:59
aakshayRiddell: now i would like to package it for maverick15:59
Riddellyes, just add a new changelog entry with dch -i  and set the version to 4:4.5.85-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1  and the series to maverick (not natty)16:00
Riddellthen build it on maverick to check it works16:00
aakshaytsimpson: ok. thanks.. :)16:00
aakshayRiddell: ok.. thanks.. i will buils it also16:01
aakshayRiddell: can you please tell me how to save the work of chroot login?16:01
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aakshay how to save the work of chroot login?16:03
tsimpsonaakshay: you need to add the --save-after-login option when entering the chroot16:04
tsimpson(assuming you mean a pbuilder chroot)16:04
aakshaytsimpson:  in this command "sudo DIST=maverick pbuilder --login" where i add this?16:05
tsimpsonafter the --login part16:05
aakshaytsimpson:  thankyou... :)..16:05
aakshaytsimpson:  i made a directory to check it but it removed the build along with the subdirectories.. :(16:08
yofelaakshay: how exactly are you trying to use pbuilder?17:01
aakshayyofel17:01
yofelYou should have created a source package with debuild -S and then called pbuilder with pbuilder build XY.dsc17:01
aakshayyofel:  m trying it for packaging.17:02
aakshayyofel:  i just want to acess my work after i exit the chroot..17:02
aakshayyofel: but i thnk it is not possible...??17:02
yofelaakshay: pbuilder will delete the chroot and the build files after it finished, but copy the built .deb files and the build log to /var/cache/pbuilder/result/17:03
yofelyou use pbuilder to make sure your package builds fine on the launchpad buildds, which requires a clean chroot without any files left over from previous builds17:04
aakshayyofel:  ok.. i wil do this to save them.. thankyou.. :)17:04
yofelaakshay: what exactly do you want to do with pbuilder? (or what did you do after dch -i)17:05
aakshayyofel:  i am packaging kdetoys 4.5.85 maverick.... 17:05
aakshayyofel: so i need to save the files like .deb... so i wil first copy them before exit17:06
aakshayyofel: please tell me one thing17:06
yofelok, so you took the natty source package, added a changelog, ran debuild -S and then?17:06
yofelaakshay: pbuilder will copy those by itself!17:06
aakshayyofel:  where?17:07
yofelas I said /var/cache/pbuilder/result/17:07
yofelif not, please pastebin your ~/.pbuilderrc17:07
aakshayyofel: its not.. let me add my ~/.pbuilderrc17:08
apacheloggeraakshay: it would be much better if you did not query me but asked int he channel17:08
apacheloggeras I am not available 90% of the time and I guess about half the actual talking people in here have access to the tarballs anyway :)17:08
apacheloggermgraesslin: maybe I should wait until workspace goes to git ^^17:09
apacheloggerI'll try to get something going tomorrow, otherwise I will just wait17:09
* apachelogger is currently drunk and thus not able to mess with patching17:09
yofelaakshay: ? (you can install 'pastebinit' and run 'pastebinit ~/.pbuilderrc' as an easy way to pastebin things)17:11
aakshayYofel: ok thats better.. 17:11
aakshayapachelogger: yes.. thanks..17:11
apacheloggeraakshay: do you have the tarball yet?17:12
aakshayapachelogger: yes.i got it...17:12
apacheloggerk17:12
aakshayapachelogger:  :)..17:13
aakshayyofel: pastebinit ~/.pbuilderrc17:13
aakshayyofel: http://pastebin.com/SDrHcpe217:13
yofelk17:14
yofelaakshay: look in /var/cache/pbuilder/maverick-amd64/result (if you are on 64bit, else maverick-i386)17:15
aakshayyofel: what corrections i need to make?17:15
aakshayyofel: ok17:15
aakshayyofel: its saying "no such file or directory"17:17
yofelhm, you have BUILDRESULT="/var/cache/pbuilder/$NAME/result/" though, where name should be something like $distribution-$architecture17:18
yofelaakshay: sorry phone, be back in a few minutes17:18
aakshayyofel: sure... :).... wil be waiting..17:19
yofelaakshay: re17:28
aakshayyofel: i think its already added: 17:28
aakshayNAME="$DIST" if [ -n "${ARCH}" ]; then     NAME="$NAME-$ARCH"     DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS=("--arch" "$ARCH" "${DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS[@]}") fi17:28
aakshayyofel: in above code.. NAME is edited17:29
yofelright, how did you try to build the package?17:30
aakshayyofel: <debuild> command..17:31
aakshayyofel: then with debuild -S for source packages..17:31
yofeland then?17:33
aakshayand then i get .orig.tar; debian.tar..17:33
yofelyou didn't use a chroot in those steps yet17:33
yofelright17:33
yofel(and a .dsc)17:34
aakshayyofel:  i am working  in a chroot only17:34
aakshayyofel: yes.. ;)17:34
yofelwait, you're doing the packaging in a chroot? why that?17:34
yofelah, for debuild to build binary packages probably17:35
aakshayyofel: yes..17:35
aakshayyofel:  i use chroot only for complete package builing17:36
aakshayyofel: is this wrong??17:36
yofelwell, that's right, but you seem to do it differently than I do, I do the packaging outside, run debuild -S and then use the chroot with 'pbuilder build XY.dsc'17:37
yofelnow let me check how you can get stuff from within the chroot to the outside17:37
aakshayyofel:  ok.. yes please..17:38
yofelaakshay: er wait, that's actually easy, I'm just thinking slowly17:40
aakshayyofel: :).. no problems... 17:40
yofelaakshay: the system sees your chroot as /var/cache/pbuilder/build/<a number>, just go there from the outside and you can copy stuff from the chroot somewhere else17:40
aakshayyofel: yups.. this i can do but the result stuff is not done in my system...17:41
yofelaakshay: didn't 'debuild' build the package? what do you need to do now?17:42
yofelthe package files should be somewhere in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/<a number>/tmp/buildd/17:43
aakshayyofel: now i have copies simply from /var/cac.......17:43
aakshayyofel: *copied17:43
yofelaakshay: ok, do you have the source folder, orig.tar, debian.tar and .dsc now?17:44
aakshayyofel: i wanna know one more thing, i need dch -i command inside my chroot, but its not installing it17:44
yofelaakshay: well, usually you don't do that in your chroot17:44
aakshayyofel: yes i hav these..17:44
aakshayyofel:  ok17:44
yofelpbuilder installs the *bare minimum* system, since you usually only use pbuilder once you've finished the packaging17:45
aakshayyofel: then i wil add changelog outside17:45
aakshayyofel:  and then build inside chroot..17:45
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aakshayyofel:  this will work correctly then... ;-)17:45
yofelright, add changelog on the outside, run debuild -S and then build in chroot with 'DIST=maverick pbuilder build ....dsc' - NOT --login17:46
aakshayyofel: "-NOT --login"..??17:47
aakshayyofel:  what it means?17:47
yofelaakshay: you don't usually login to the chroot17:47
aakshayyofel: okk... this is the thing17:47
yofelaakshay: that was me telling you not to login, the pbuilder command is: DIST=maverick pbuilder build ....dsc17:47
yofelwhere ....dsc is the name of your .dsc file17:48
aakshayyofel:  i can directly build from outside..i will do this way only now....17:48
aakshayyofel: thanks for helping me... :)17:48
yofelaakshay: here's the ubuntu guide for pbuilder, good read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto17:49
aakshayyofel: okiez.. i will read this.. one thing i always confuses in is editing the version17:49
aakshayyofel: sometimes its 4.5.4 or 4.5.85 which means the same i think..??17:50
yofelaakshay: no, 4.5.4. is the KDE 4.5.4 release, 4.5.85 stands for 4.6 beta217:50
aakshayyofel: ok but is there any written table of such conversions..:p17:51
yofelaakshay: hm? that naming scheme is kde standard, and your original source file was called kdetoys-4.5.85.tar.bz2 after all17:52
* apachelogger completley forgot about thursday's random facebook friending17:52
apacheloggeroh dear oh dear17:52
apacheloggeryofel, aakshay: are you on the facebook?17:52
yofelaakshay: as for how debian versions are constructed, like what the '4:' at the beginning means is described in the debian policy17:52
aakshayapachelogger: yes..17:52
yofelapachelogger: I have an account, unused17:53
apacheloggeryofel: how do you herd your fans then?17:53
aakshayapachelogger: i have using active one..17:53
yofelI have fans? :D17:53
aakshayyofel:  abd the rest like its 4.6 but still written as 4.5.85... 17:54
yofelapachelogger: yes, since 4.6 isn't released yet, the beta2 is called 4.5.85 so the version number is lower17:54
yofelaakshay: ^17:54
aakshayyofel:  i will remeber them nw.. :)17:54
yofeltab fail :(17:54
aakshayyofel: :)17:54
aakshayyofel: okiez... thats nice17:55
apacheloggeraakshay: where can I befriend you on facebook?17:55
apacheloggeryofel: yes I know :P17:55
aakshayapachelogger: my id is by name "aksahay tayal"17:55
yofelaakshay: if you want to continue with packaging you might want to read http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ at one point17:56
yofelor rather should read it17:56
apacheloggeraakshay: there are three matches 17:56
apacheloggerthus my question ^^17:56
apacheloggeractually more17:56
apachelogger3 with picture that is ^^17:56
aakshayi am wearing shorts in pic..:)17:56
apacheloggerI shall hope that I befriended the right person then ^^17:57
apacheloggeroh oh oh17:57
aakshayapachelogger: got me??17:57
apacheloggeraakshay: check your facebook17:57
aakshayyofel: i wil read it and implement it.. ;)17:57
apacheloggeryou should ahve a friendship request17:57
apacheloggeror  it was random friendshipping with peopel I do not know (again) ^^17:57
* apachelogger apparenlty has to lave for train in a bit17:58
aakshayyofel: whats your profile name?17:58
aakshayapachelogger: i have added you.. thanks for sending request.. :)17:58
apacheloggerit would appear that the austrian railway company has cancelled the direct connection from linz to graz17:58
aakshayyofel: on facebook17:58
apacheloggeradding another 20 minutes to my travel time17:58
* apachelogger loves the austria17:58
apacheloggerhooray17:58
* apachelogger got aakshay as friend \\o/17:59
yofellet me first try to get my facebook profile, the page looks totally crooked in minefield o.O17:59
aakshayyofel: ;-O17:59
aakshayapachelogger: \0/17:59
yofelaakshay: Philip Muskovac18:00
yofelnow I need to find a usable picture and actually set my account up ^^18:00
* kronos just sent apachelogger a friend request ..18:01
aakshayyofel: u have lot of fans...:)18:01
apacheloggerhooray18:01
apacheloggermore friends18:01
* apachelogger is not a fand of yofel18:01
apachelogger:P18:01
apacheloggeractually I am but dont tell him18:01
apacheloggerhe will go smug18:01
aakshayyofel: is your profile has school "Uni Tuebingen"18:01
apacheloggerlike shadeslayer18:02
apachelogger...18:02
apachelogger:P18:02
yofellol18:02
* apachelogger needs to leave for train18:02
apacheloggero/18:02
apacheloggerau revior and stuff18:02
yofeloh, I actually put that in, aakshay: yes18:02
aakshaylolzzz18:02
aakshayau revoir18:02
aakshayyofel: have sent u request.. see your profile... /o18:03
* kronos has more friends than apachelogger .. :P18:03
yofelaccepted, you're the first :P18:03
aakshayyofel: \o/  congrats!!!18:03
aakshayyofel: inaugration is successful...:)18:04
aakshayyofel: i will read all the stuff for packaging now... thanks again..:)18:09
yofeldoes anyone know what happened to kdepim 4.4.8 for maverick updates? it's there for lucid, but for maverick only in beta18:57
Riddellyofel: I didn't upload it and I've not been given anything by anyone else to upload19:00
RiddellI did lucid because of a canonical customer19:00
yofelah, confused someone in #kubuntu that had both maverick and lucid ppa sources since that now tried to mix 4.5.4 maverick with 4:4.4.8 kdepim lucid19:01
apacheloggerehm22:42
apacheloggerthat ALERT thing survey is super buggy22:42
apachelogger" They doesn't fullfill my needs"22:42
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* apachelogger doesnt understand half the questions22:45
apachelogger...22:45
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apacheloggercool23:39
apacheloggerpbuilder sets up ccache23:39
* apachelogger loves how that abomination of a bash script manages to do just the thing to piss of apachelogger23:39

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