[00:02] <apachelogger> my kdm is the broken \o/
[00:04] <apachelogger> ok
[00:04] <apachelogger> either my upgrade really went to shit or natty on armel is in a bit of a dead state
[00:05] <apachelogger> doesnt even get a stack -.-
[00:05] <apachelogger> oh well
[00:06] <apachelogger> kernel panic
[00:12] <JontheEchidna> lol @ bug 609247
[00:15] <apachelogger> hm
[00:15] <apachelogger> ehm
[00:15] <apachelogger> uh
[00:15] <apachelogger> bug 689109
[00:16]  * apachelogger considers libpackagekit-qt-14 -> libpackagekit-qt14 at least as disobeyment of the policy
[00:16] <apachelogger> IIRC the policies goes like 'if appending the soversion to the name would confuze the people, make it dashed'
[00:16] <apachelogger> now clearly having it say -qt14 is confusing
[00:18]  * JontheEchidna is worried by the lack of attention to bug 680328 too
[00:21] <apachelogger> cool
[00:21] <apachelogger> bug 689113
[00:21] <apachelogger> he recons that it is shitty that the messages are french
[00:22] <apachelogger> yet he does no bother to translate them
[00:22] <apachelogger> <3
[00:22] <apachelogger> ^ one more reason why cli apps should not be translated anyway
[00:22] <apachelogger> ...
[00:44]  * apachelogger loves how debhelper drags in man-db and thus causes a stupid database building
[00:44] <apachelogger> that takes *ages*
[00:48] <apachelogger> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:98 (MESSAGE):
[00:48] <apachelogger>   ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in
[00:48] <apachelogger> that is a new ne
[00:48] <apachelogger> *one
[00:48] <apachelogger> I lov eit
[00:48] <apachelogger> makes me wanna thorw up
[00:52] <apachelogger> aha!
[00:52]  * apachelogger is being armed again
[00:53] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: I think kdebase-workspace on armel is utterly broken ... getting segfaults on the mobile and in a qemu pbuilder
[00:53] <apachelogger> or maybe libs in general or something
[00:53] <apachelogger> oh, more like libs
[00:53] <apachelogger> kde4-config also segfaults
[00:54] <Riddell> ug
[00:55] <apachelogger> oh
[00:55] <apachelogger> nvm
[00:55] <apachelogger> seems I ran a maverick base tgz as natty
[00:55] <apachelogger> that is bound to fail
[00:55]  * apachelogger tries again
[01:03] <ari-tczew> apachelogger, Riddell: could you (1 person from you) take a look on clementine review tomorrow? It's not updated yet. I'm ordering sponsor for future. (:
[01:04]  * apachelogger will not have much time tomorrow
[01:05]  * apachelogger wonders how ccache always ends up in pbuilder's PATH
[01:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: ok, it was just me being stupid, not armel being broken
[05:57] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[05:57] <_Groo_> can anyone confirm that k3b is broken with kde 4.6 beta 2? 
[06:06] <_Groo_> nvm, found apachelogger patch for it...
[12:26] <apachelogger> !find X11/SM/SMlib.h
[12:30] <apachelogger> ScottK, mgraesslin: I think for 11.04 we should have a separate package kde-window-manager-gles
[12:31] <apachelogger> that way one can still use kde-window-manager on armel
[12:31]  * mgraesslin agrees
[12:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: what would go into it?
[12:31] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: building right now
[12:31] <apachelogger> Riddell: mgraesslin's opengles enabled kwin
[12:31] <mgraesslin> and please package it also for desktop
[12:32] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: why that?
[12:32] <Riddell> it'll get packaged everywhere, we don't discriminate in our packages generally
[12:32] <mgraesslin> apachelogger: because it's better and the ES backend will on long term become the default one
[12:32] <apachelogger> I see
[12:32] <mgraesslin> Wayland requires ES, so we *need* it
[12:33]  * apachelogger loves wayland already
[12:33] <apachelogger> well then
[12:33]  * apachelogger changes the architecture from armel to any
[12:33] <mgraesslin> I want to tune the CMakeLists.txt to built both kwin-desktop and kwin-mobile
[12:35] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: CMakeFiles/kworkspace.dir/kworkspace.o: In function `~KRequestShutdownHelper':
[12:35] <apachelogger> /tmp/buildd/kwin-gles/libs/kworkspace/kworkspace.cpp:134: undefined reference to `SmcCloseConnection'
[12:36] <mgraesslin> erm
[12:36] <apachelogger> libs&m is installed though
[12:36] <mgraesslin> apachelogger: best you wait till workspace is migrated to git - I will then use a complete clone of workspace
[12:37] <apachelogger> awww
[12:37] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: but I wanted to see if maybe kwin works, even though plasma-mobile refuses too :
[12:37] <apachelogger> S
[12:37] <mgraesslin> strip the patches and apply them to normal workspace
[12:37] <mgraesslin> all commits in the scratch repo are for GLES
[12:39] <apachelogger> oh noes, that sounds like work ^^
[12:40] <apachelogger> cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-fno-strict-volatile-bitfields"
[12:40] <apachelogger> fancy
[12:40] <apachelogger> <3 gcc + qt
[12:40] <mgraesslin> just use git format-patch to extract all commits
[12:41] <apachelogger> k, well, later
[12:41] <apachelogger> gotta run o/
[13:07] <ari-tczew> Riddell: could you review clementine? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=8778
[13:11] <Riddell> ari-tczew: ok
[13:12] <ari-tczew> nice!
[15:18] <pgquiles> what will be the default browser in 11.04? rekonq again?
[15:18] <Riddell> that's the plan yes
[15:18] <Riddell> with qtwebkit 2.1
[15:18] <pgquiles> ok
[15:55] <aakshay> where to look for  tarball for kdetoys maverick upstream 4.5.85?
[15:55] <aakshay> please help
[15:57] <Riddell> aakshay: err you already packaged that
[15:57] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdetoys/4:4.5.85-0ubuntu1
[15:57] <aakshay> Riddell: hi.. i packaged for natty 4.5.85.. 
[15:59] <tsimpson> the tarball would be the same for maverick
[15:59] <aakshay> Riddell: now i would like to package it for maverick
[16:00] <Riddell> yes, just add a new changelog entry with dch -i  and set the version to 4:4.5.85-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1  and the series to maverick (not natty)
[16:00] <Riddell> then build it on maverick to check it works
[16:00] <aakshay> tsimpson: ok. thanks.. :)
[16:01] <aakshay> Riddell: ok.. thanks.. i will buils it also
[16:01] <aakshay> Riddell: can you please tell me how to save the work of chroot login?
[16:03] <aakshay>  how to save the work of chroot login?
[16:04] <tsimpson> aakshay: you need to add the --save-after-login option when entering the chroot
[16:04] <tsimpson> (assuming you mean a pbuilder chroot)
[16:05] <aakshay> tsimpson:  in this command "sudo DIST=maverick pbuilder --login" where i add this?
[16:05] <tsimpson> after the --login part
[16:05] <aakshay> tsimpson:  thankyou... :)..
[16:08] <aakshay> tsimpson:  i made a directory to check it but it removed the build along with the subdirectories.. :(
[17:01] <yofel> aakshay: how exactly are you trying to use pbuilder?
[17:01] <aakshay> yofel
[17:01] <yofel> You should have created a source package with debuild -S and then called pbuilder with pbuilder build XY.dsc
[17:02] <aakshay> yofel:  m trying it for packaging.
[17:02] <aakshay> yofel:  i just want to acess my work after i exit the chroot..
[17:02] <aakshay> yofel: but i thnk it is not possible...??
[17:03] <yofel> aakshay: pbuilder will delete the chroot and the build files after it finished, but copy the built .deb files and the build log to /var/cache/pbuilder/result/
[17:04] <yofel> you use pbuilder to make sure your package builds fine on the launchpad buildds, which requires a clean chroot without any files left over from previous builds
[17:04] <aakshay> yofel:  ok.. i wil do this to save them.. thankyou.. :)
[17:05] <yofel> aakshay: what exactly do you want to do with pbuilder? (or what did you do after dch -i)
[17:05] <aakshay> yofel:  i am packaging kdetoys 4.5.85 maverick.... 
[17:06] <aakshay> yofel: so i need to save the files like .deb... so i wil first copy them before exit
[17:06] <aakshay> yofel: please tell me one thing
[17:06] <yofel> ok, so you took the natty source package, added a changelog, ran debuild -S and then?
[17:06] <yofel> aakshay: pbuilder will copy those by itself!
[17:07] <aakshay> yofel:  where?
[17:07] <yofel> as I said /var/cache/pbuilder/result/
[17:07] <yofel> if not, please pastebin your ~/.pbuilderrc
[17:08] <aakshay> yofel: its not.. let me add my ~/.pbuilderrc
[17:08] <apachelogger> aakshay: it would be much better if you did not query me but asked int he channel
[17:08] <apachelogger> as I am not available 90% of the time and I guess about half the actual talking people in here have access to the tarballs anyway :)
[17:09] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: maybe I should wait until workspace goes to git ^^
[17:09] <apachelogger> I'll try to get something going tomorrow, otherwise I will just wait
[17:09]  * apachelogger is currently drunk and thus not able to mess with patching
[17:11] <yofel> aakshay: ? (you can install 'pastebinit' and run 'pastebinit ~/.pbuilderrc' as an easy way to pastebin things)
[17:11] <aakshay> Yofel: ok thats better.. 
[17:11] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes.. thanks..
[17:12] <apachelogger> aakshay: do you have the tarball yet?
[17:12] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes.i got it...
[17:12] <apachelogger> k
[17:13] <aakshay> apachelogger:  :)..
[17:13] <aakshay> yofel: pastebinit ~/.pbuilderrc
[17:13] <aakshay> yofel: http://pastebin.com/SDrHcpe2
[17:14] <yofel> k
[17:15] <yofel> aakshay: look in /var/cache/pbuilder/maverick-amd64/result (if you are on 64bit, else maverick-i386)
[17:15] <aakshay> yofel: what corrections i need to make?
[17:15] <aakshay> yofel: ok
[17:17] <aakshay> yofel: its saying "no such file or directory"
[17:18] <yofel> hm, you have BUILDRESULT="/var/cache/pbuilder/$NAME/result/" though, where name should be something like $distribution-$architecture
[17:18] <yofel> aakshay: sorry phone, be back in a few minutes
[17:19] <aakshay> yofel: sure... :).... wil be waiting..
[17:28] <yofel> aakshay: re
[17:28] <aakshay> yofel: i think its already added: 
[17:28] <aakshay> NAME="$DIST" if [ -n "${ARCH}" ]; then     NAME="$NAME-$ARCH"     DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS=("--arch" "$ARCH" "${DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS[@]}") fi
[17:29] <aakshay> yofel: in above code.. NAME is edited
[17:30] <yofel> right, how did you try to build the package?
[17:31] <aakshay> yofel: <debuild> command..
[17:31] <aakshay> yofel: then with debuild -S for source packages..
[17:33] <yofel> and then?
[17:33] <aakshay> and then i get .orig.tar; debian.tar..
[17:33] <yofel> you didn't use a chroot in those steps yet
[17:33] <yofel> right
[17:34] <yofel> (and a .dsc)
[17:34] <aakshay> yofel:  i am working  in a chroot only
[17:34] <aakshay> yofel: yes.. ;)
[17:34] <yofel> wait, you're doing the packaging in a chroot? why that?
[17:35] <yofel> ah, for debuild to build binary packages probably
[17:35] <aakshay> yofel: yes..
[17:36] <aakshay> yofel:  i use chroot only for complete package builing
[17:36] <aakshay> yofel: is this wrong??
[17:37] <yofel> well, that's right, but you seem to do it differently than I do, I do the packaging outside, run debuild -S and then use the chroot with 'pbuilder build XY.dsc'
[17:37] <yofel> now let me check how you can get stuff from within the chroot to the outside
[17:38] <aakshay> yofel:  ok.. yes please..
[17:40] <yofel> aakshay: er wait, that's actually easy, I'm just thinking slowly
[17:40] <aakshay> yofel: :).. no problems... 
[17:40] <yofel> aakshay: the system sees your chroot as /var/cache/pbuilder/build/<a number>, just go there from the outside and you can copy stuff from the chroot somewhere else
[17:41] <aakshay> yofel: yups.. this i can do but the result stuff is not done in my system...
[17:42] <yofel> aakshay: didn't 'debuild' build the package? what do you need to do now?
[17:43] <yofel> the package files should be somewhere in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/<a number>/tmp/buildd/
[17:43] <aakshay> yofel: now i have copies simply from /var/cac.......
[17:43] <aakshay> yofel: *copied
[17:44] <yofel> aakshay: ok, do you have the source folder, orig.tar, debian.tar and .dsc now?
[17:44] <aakshay> yofel: i wanna know one more thing, i need dch -i command inside my chroot, but its not installing it
[17:44] <yofel> aakshay: well, usually you don't do that in your chroot
[17:44] <aakshay> yofel: yes i hav these..
[17:44] <aakshay> yofel:  ok
[17:45] <yofel> pbuilder installs the *bare minimum* system, since you usually only use pbuilder once you've finished the packaging
[17:45] <aakshay> yofel: then i wil add changelog outside
[17:45] <aakshay> yofel:  and then build inside chroot..
[17:45] <aakshay> yofel:  this will work correctly then... ;-)
[17:46] <yofel> right, add changelog on the outside, run debuild -S and then build in chroot with 'DIST=maverick pbuilder build ....dsc' - NOT --login
[17:47] <aakshay> yofel: "-NOT --login"..??
[17:47] <aakshay> yofel:  what it means?
[17:47] <yofel> aakshay: you don't usually login to the chroot
[17:47] <aakshay> yofel: okk... this is the thing
[17:47] <yofel> aakshay: that was me telling you not to login, the pbuilder command is: DIST=maverick pbuilder build ....dsc
[17:48] <yofel> where ....dsc is the name of your .dsc file
[17:48] <aakshay> yofel:  i can directly build from outside..i will do this way only now....
[17:48] <aakshay> yofel: thanks for helping me... :)
[17:49] <yofel> aakshay: here's the ubuntu guide for pbuilder, good read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[17:49] <aakshay> yofel: okiez.. i will read this.. one thing i always confuses in is editing the version
[17:50] <aakshay> yofel: sometimes its 4.5.4 or 4.5.85 which means the same i think..??
[17:50] <yofel> aakshay: no, 4.5.4. is the KDE 4.5.4 release, 4.5.85 stands for 4.6 beta2
[17:51] <aakshay> yofel: ok but is there any written table of such conversions..:p
[17:52] <yofel> aakshay: hm? that naming scheme is kde standard, and your original source file was called kdetoys-4.5.85.tar.bz2 after all
[17:52]  * apachelogger completley forgot about thursday's random facebook friending
[17:52] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[17:52] <apachelogger> yofel, aakshay: are you on the facebook?
[17:52] <yofel> aakshay: as for how debian versions are constructed, like what the '4:' at the beginning means is described in the debian policy
[17:52] <aakshay> apachelogger: yes..
[17:53] <yofel> apachelogger: I have an account, unused
[17:53] <apachelogger> yofel: how do you herd your fans then?
[17:53] <aakshay> apachelogger: i have using active one..
[17:53] <yofel> I have fans? :D
[17:54] <aakshay> yofel:  abd the rest like its 4.6 but still written as 4.5.85... 
[17:54] <yofel> apachelogger: yes, since 4.6 isn't released yet, the beta2 is called 4.5.85 so the version number is lower
[17:54] <yofel> aakshay: ^
[17:54] <aakshay> yofel:  i will remeber them nw.. :)
[17:54] <yofel> tab fail :(
[17:54] <aakshay> yofel: :)
[17:55] <aakshay> yofel: okiez... thats nice
[17:55] <apachelogger> aakshay: where can I befriend you on facebook?
[17:55] <apachelogger> yofel: yes I know :P
[17:55] <aakshay> apachelogger: my id is by name "aksahay tayal"
[17:56] <yofel> aakshay: if you want to continue with packaging you might want to read http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ at one point
[17:56] <yofel> or rather should read it
[17:56] <apachelogger> aakshay: there are three matches 
[17:56] <apachelogger> thus my question ^^
[17:56] <apachelogger> actually more
[17:56] <apachelogger> 3 with picture that is ^^
[17:56] <aakshay> i am wearing shorts in pic..:)
[17:57] <apachelogger> I shall hope that I befriended the right person then ^^
[17:57] <apachelogger> oh oh oh
[17:57] <aakshay> apachelogger: got me??
[17:57] <apachelogger> aakshay: check your facebook
[17:57] <aakshay> yofel: i wil read it and implement it.. ;)
[17:57] <apachelogger> you should ahve a friendship request
[17:57] <apachelogger> or  it was random friendshipping with peopel I do not know (again) ^^
[17:58]  * apachelogger apparenlty has to lave for train in a bit
[17:58] <aakshay> yofel: whats your profile name?
[17:58] <aakshay> apachelogger: i have added you.. thanks for sending request.. :)
[17:58] <apachelogger> it would appear that the austrian railway company has cancelled the direct connection from linz to graz
[17:58] <aakshay> yofel: on facebook
[17:58] <apachelogger> adding another 20 minutes to my travel time
[17:58]  * apachelogger loves the austria
[17:58] <apachelogger> hooray
[17:59]  * apachelogger got aakshay as friend \\o/
[17:59] <yofel> let me first try to get my facebook profile, the page looks totally crooked in minefield o.O
[17:59] <aakshay> yofel: ;-O
[17:59] <aakshay> apachelogger: \0/
[18:00] <yofel> aakshay: Philip Muskovac
[18:00] <yofel> now I need to find a usable picture and actually set my account up ^^
[18:01]  * kronos just sent apachelogger a friend request ..
[18:01] <aakshay> yofel: u have lot of fans...:)
[18:01] <apachelogger> hooray
[18:01] <apachelogger> more friends
[18:01]  * apachelogger is not a fand of yofel
[18:01] <apachelogger> :P
[18:01] <apachelogger> actually I am but dont tell him
[18:01] <apachelogger> he will go smug
[18:01] <aakshay> yofel: is your profile has school "Uni Tuebingen"
[18:02] <apachelogger> like shadeslayer
[18:02] <apachelogger> ...
[18:02] <apachelogger> :P
[18:02] <yofel> lol
[18:02]  * apachelogger needs to leave for train
[18:02] <apachelogger> o/
[18:02] <apachelogger> au revior and stuff
[18:02] <yofel> oh, I actually put that in, aakshay: yes
[18:02] <aakshay> lolzzz
[18:02] <aakshay> au revoir
[18:03] <aakshay> yofel: have sent u request.. see your profile... /o
[18:03]  * kronos has more friends than apachelogger .. :P
[18:03] <yofel> accepted, you're the first :P
[18:03] <aakshay> yofel: \o/  congrats!!!
[18:04] <aakshay> yofel: inaugration is successful...:)
[18:09] <aakshay> yofel: i will read all the stuff for packaging now... thanks again..:)
[18:57] <yofel> does anyone know what happened to kdepim 4.4.8 for maverick updates? it's there for lucid, but for maverick only in beta
[19:00] <Riddell> yofel: I didn't upload it and I've not been given anything by anyone else to upload
[19:00] <Riddell> I did lucid because of a canonical customer
[19:01] <yofel> ah, confused someone in #kubuntu that had both maverick and lucid ppa sources since that now tried to mix 4.5.4 maverick with 4:4.4.8 kdepim lucid
[22:42] <apachelogger> ehm
[22:42] <apachelogger> that ALERT thing survey is super buggy
[22:42] <apachelogger> " They doesn't fullfill my needs"
[22:45]  * apachelogger doesnt understand half the questions
[22:45] <apachelogger> ...
[23:39] <apachelogger> cool
[23:39] <apachelogger> pbuilder sets up ccache
[23:39]  * apachelogger loves how that abomination of a bash script manages to do just the thing to piss of apachelogger